| IVOD_ID |
159404 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159404 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-19T13:04:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-19T13:12:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8d8da86eec6b25b8152abd7476fe5bf039fe1519e09d1f6fb046c84a64030c6d306605202daef2345ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:04:35 - 13:12:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請勞動部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算決議有關勞動部預算凍結報告案19案。【報告事項】【如經復議則不予處理】
三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於勞動部主管部分。
【3月17日、19日及20日三天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席我們請洪部長先喝口水再上來請部長各位好部長好辛苦了那其實我們在這邊都是很關心勞動部的預算問一下勞動部預算今年被砍了多少非統棟統山的部分是八千但是如果把整體的砍山是八千那整個凍結在一億八 |
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刪掉8000然後凍結118那凍結18億來再說一次有點偷昏了來再說一次刪除的部分是8000然後凍結的部分是18億 |
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那這個時間有限剛剛黃姐也在關心就是說這個新手爸媽他們的這個產檢的產檢價的薪資的補助跟賠產檢還有賠產檢價的薪資的補助那這部分呢預算被刪除了800萬 |
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然後被凍結了這個一千九百四十二萬那這個是本來是要給這一個微小型的企業因為多了兩天由政府來補助嘛那所以呢這樣下去的話這補助我剛聽下半年就沒有了那下半年大概是到幾月就沒有了 |
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其實可能假設以這個刪減跟凍結的狀況的話如果沒有辦法解凍的話可能到八九月八九月就沒有因為生小孩這件事情他沒辦法去控制時間了嘛他可能就下半年十月十一月的時候要生啊那時候之前要去陪產檢啊那所以說這個對於新手爸媽來講我覺得啦我覺得真的是 |
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他們心裡會覺得說那為什麼這個債務黨要砍這個預算那這個預算對他們來講是不無小補你看有產檢價的薪資補助賠產檢的薪資補助那我是希望說這個 |
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這個胃環這邊,這個是胃環這邊解凍就可以了嗎?還是要到這個大院?這部分應該是胃環會解凍我是希望說能夠趕快解凍,不然對這個新手爸媽來講,八九月那如果是預產期是在那個時候該怎麼辦?因為解凍當然還是有它的不確定性,當然我們就希望是可以趕快讓我們比較有效的使用這些資源 |
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第二個 勞動力發展署你們的業務費也被刪除了1000萬然後勞動力發展署的一般行政項目被刪減了3576萬所以說你們說勞動力發展署有400多名的第一線人員心知面臨發放困難這些是指那些約聘僱的第一線人員嗎 |
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那那那那怎麼辦呢?因為這裡面因為我們法案署業務費被刪了1000萬重點還有後面我們還凍結了20%所以凍結了4000多萬這個刪減跟凍結的狀況加起來其實是超過5000萬的 |
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那我們其實有很多第一線的一些這個救福人員他們的薪資其實是我們用這個業務費在做相關的補助的所以在這個三減跟凍結的狀況之下可能就會對於這些救福人員地方上面我們補助的救福人員的這個薪資的發放會造成困難 |
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所以說200多位這個是屬於第一線的 他們是服務這些等於是第一線的工作人員就對了是 他就是就業服務人員那他們的薪水 比如說大概能夠發到幾月份所以我們現在其實已經開始有點欲缺不補了 |
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那目前大概也是會到如果這個刪減跟凍結的狀況下面也是到如果沒有辦法解凍的話到下半年就會有薪資無法足而發放的問題那怎麼辦 請他們離職嗎這是我們很不樂意見到的對啊 好不容易到勞動部來那結果又請他們離職是對啊 因為你不能少他們的薪水啊 |
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所以跟委員說明我們已經開始有點欲缺不補了就已經開始有欲缺不補的狀況然後因為避免到時候薪資發放的風險那真的會對於我們很多這些辛苦工作的工作人員現在還有兩百多名那你說下面那個勞動力發展所一般行政 |
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三百分之十 三千五百七十六萬凍結百分之二十 七千多萬加起來多少 一億喔對那所以這個也會影響到公務人員 技工公有的薪資喔是 因為其實很多都是用這個一般行政的經費其實在做相關我們包括技工公有的薪資在做指引那所以咧所以如果到下半年沒有錢了這些人也是要請他們離開嗎 還是怎麼樣 |
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根據委員報告基本上我們會先維持基本的行政維持必要的一個工作那這個部分我們會盡量留住會保障同仁的一個薪資方面的一個權益然後會從其他的行政費用去做準解處理 |
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那有辦法嗎沒有還是要證據檢討對啊所以我的意思就是說來勞動部工作那結果因為被在野黨砍人的預算那結果結果面臨這一個在勞動部裡面要面臨被離職的這個問題那我覺得那不是我覺得真的是對他們來講情何以堪啊好那現在下一個這個你們的這一個基本行政工作 |
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預算刪除一千萬凍結了一千五百八十三萬那所以咧你們這些清潔人員保全的人也會受到影響其實已經影響了其實我們在部裡面其實有些承染人力其實已經在三月三月一號已經離職了三月就這個月就離職了已經離職了有多少人現在已經離職了九位九位已經離職了那你們這個大概有幾位啊 |
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你講的是指清潔人員跟保全嗎就是保全我們承攬的部分保全已經就是2月28號是最後一天然後現在已經無法再繼續再進他們的契約是多久啊 |
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他們的契約我們通常是一年一標所以他們契約本來是到今年的12月31號但是因為我們預算的刪減那有些費用其實是不能是基本性基本的維持沒有辦法刪減的情況下我們只能非常非常無奈的就是讓九個這些承攬的人離然後在3月1號離職 |
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那所以預算繼續不解凍的話會有更多的離子就對了對 如果不解凍的話會有下一波連水電的支付都會出現問題連勞動部的整個辦公行政的一般的維持如果持續不解凍的話都會出現問題的 |
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我覺得這很悲哀的事情今天不是說因為你哪裡做不好然後這個砍運算那今天砍到的第一個新手爸媽那第二個這些最基層的這些工友濟工這些都受到影響那真的希望這個那當然我們召委在這邊他也希望說能夠趕快去做解凍但是被刪除的就沒有辦法了好 謝謝主席 謝謝部長謝謝李委 謝謝 |