| IVOD_ID |
159384 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159384 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-19 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-19T12:00:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-19T12:08:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:00:40 - 12:08:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
「核子反應器設施管制法部分條文修正草案」修法公聽會（事由：「核子反應器設施管制法部分條文修正草案」修法公聽會） |
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很高興今天有這麼多專家學者到現場還有我們的行政主管部門都在今天這個會議非常非常的重要因為馬上就要漲電價了馬上就要漲電價了然後呢 |
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我們的核能到底要不要重啟或者要不要延續我們已經從去年的第一會期開始討論了很期待今天我們透過理性跟專業的討論有沒有可能找出一個比較好的答案甚至在馬上要開的電價審議委員會發現說我們的核能不管是重啟或者是延續 |
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有可能是安全的更重要的讓核能像以前維持一個穩定便宜的一個電價讓我們4月1號不用漲電價今天啊我想先從國際的情勢跟大家做一個共享我們現在談核電到底安不安全要不要研議全世界這幾年有非常非常大翻天覆地的這個改變 |
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當以前發生這個山梨島災變日本發生這個福島災變之後大家都不用核能了彈核設變可是你從國際上去看現在大家就在重返核能 返回核能現在反對核能 現在只剩下台灣的民進黨政府我建議大家可以看一下 大家打維基百科維基百科做了一個現在目前全世界 |
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哪些國家現在用核電 哪些不用核電的裡面啦 只剩下一個國家現在是反對核電的就是等待完我為什麼提這個例子呢美國跟日本 以前他們如果核電廠關掉重新要重開 他們以前不願意重開 把它關掉嘛對不對要重開 現在最近這兩三年 大家去看一下 |
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只要確定是安全一到三年就重啟啦更重要的烏俄戰爭三年前發生的時候烏俄戰爭的時候大家都知道德國以前是反核的嘛對不對德國在烏俄戰爭的發現了他們天然氣斷氣了價格太高了他們馬上做了一個緊急的處理他們這樣本來三座核子反應爐 |
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緊急檢查他是安全的讓他各研議了三到四個月上個月啊德國大選大家已經知道那個結果他反核的執政黨第一大黨跟第二大黨聯合執政黨全部都大敗連德國這麼一個反核的國家民心都變了他們現在大勝的是第三大黨跟第四大黨要聯合組政府他們是支持要反回核能的 |
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所以國際的情勢已經在變了連西班牙以前也是反對用核能的西班牙現在也要用了最特別的是義大利大家都知道義大利有文化復興對不對義大利前兩個禮拜喊出一個口號叫做核能復興因為核能穩定而且又便宜所以連以前最反核的德國喔或者以前因為有核災的日本跟美國全部都在反回核能了台灣真的 |
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還要抱著以前的意識形態嗎當然我知道有人可能對安全有疑慮等一下我們進一步來談我剛舉例的是說如果當美國跟日本跟全世界先進的國家他們都在用他們認為安全沒有問題為什麼我要問為什麼台灣安全就是有問題的最近啊AIT的這個處長啊古立言他接受自由時報的專訪 |
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他說美國跟日本最近為什麼要重用這個核能他說第一個因為穩定還有價格低廉的這個問題他還直接講了他說我們可以幫台灣解決這個問題美國都開口了斯圖文上個禮拜有一個兵推斯圖文是上一任AIT的處長他直接講了他說台灣的這個電力明明有切口啊不穩定啊 |
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他不懂全世界都還回核能為什麼台灣不還回你不管是現任的AIT的處長上一任的前任的這個AIT的處長都這樣講了 |
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全世界都這樣講為什麼台灣要這樣呢所以我先從國際的情勢跟大家報告如果從國際都已經在改變了從以前反對核能到反回核能台灣真的要用意識形態然後還抱持留在所有人都已經到了21世紀了我們要停留在上世紀嗎這是第一個第二個我們台灣現在面臨的是什麼問題台灣為什麼最近這幾年一直在漲電價 |
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不就是因為核一廠停掉了核二廠停掉了核三廠的一號機停掉了5月17號馬上就來了核三廠的二號機馬上要停了大家可以去算一下光是核電廠核一核二核三停掉之後我們的過電成本一年增加一千億結果我們政府啊現在一直拿我們人民納稅錢一年補一千億已經補了三千億進去了漲了五次電價還填不飽喔 |
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一般是買立電當然也花了五六百億這是一個問題最大的原因就是因為我們把核電停掉了那你政府要停核電你要跟人民講每一年的一千億要從哪邊來啊你每次都要撥補然後四月一號漁人減盲到了又要漲一次搞不好今年十月一號又要漲一次這是多嚴重的一個問題 |
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所以我今天特別來參加這個公聽會一方面當然傾聽我們專家寫者的建議不過我期待大家可以從全世界一個大的趨勢來看然後從國內我們現在碰到的問題我們剛剛不是只有碰到電價要上漲的這個問題我們還碰到我們的電力是不穩定的然後全世界人在這樣活動除了安全之外 |
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穩定之外他們在談到綠電的問題低碳的這個問題我們台灣現在沒有用核能用什麼用天然氣對不對天然氣也不穩定啊天然氣的排碳 |
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這是不是對台灣的產業也是一個非常大的一個傷害所以當然我等一下會好好傾聽可能今天有些專家寫者是非常堅持說我們的安全是要顧慮到的當然我也主張說你要檢查確定是安全才可以用所以這個會期我蠻期待的包括民眾黨跟國民黨甚至有些民進黨的這個立法委員我們共同好好來這個法把它修好在法令上已經完整的時候我們共同來解決我們這個問題 |
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好,謝謝 |