| IVOD_ID |
159307 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159307 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第5次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第5次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-18T14:30:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-18T14:45:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1468b0c2f72abc7f89552dca0df9b66e192e6bfb57ea0be4fb233b2bc7058d3237a2079df6bf46255ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:30:15 - 14:45:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第5次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、3月14日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、3月18日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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謝謝院長 我們請卓院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 |
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林委員好 院長好我們0121的地震在第一時間其實我們就已經要求要比照0403花蓮地震災害的重建的標準來處理那現在也已經都開始 |
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已經進入到在核發所有的一些補助款的部分紅單黃單但是確實速度有一點緩慢因為我們必須要經由土木技師結構技師建築施工會然後去做一些負評的動作那當然 |
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現在還有一個問題其實從過去到現在都存在的我想今天剛好要拿出來跟我們院長還有我們內政部來討論一下就是說我們紅單跟黃單 |
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我們一般的建物現在的這個復平之後都沒有問題金融土木技師、結構技師跟建築師他們復平之後能夠依照他們給予的建議來做一些補助或是指引我們這間房子的一個重建方向那現在問題來了我讓我們的院長看一下其實 |
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在這些圖片當中這是紅單你看在外面貼了一個紅單這個是牆面嚴重裂開這是紅單喔再來我們看黃單地基結構下陷然後還有屋頂磚瓦破裂漏水還有我們的樑柱受損甚至是輕鋼架受損這些都是黃單那麼院長 |
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這是我們的廟宇我們的廟宇可是我們的廟宇如同一般的建物被貼了紅單跟黃單但是他們拿不到補助因為他們被認為是民宅所以沒有辦法拿到補助可是這是不公平的因為他們基本上也是建物 |
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可是又因為他們當成廟宇所以他們沒有辦法得到補助連一點點都拿不到從過去其實都存在這個問題我覺得對這些廟宇其實是不公平的因為現在是 |
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心情堅強 她也是用她的頭部這樣一步一步的站起來就因為她是胡適的心靈所以她不能拿到寶座所以院長 我覺得這是極度不公平而且這一次 你知道在台南我們說真的就是眾神之都而且在我們這一次南西獄警 |
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大內在這麼多東山這些地方在山區其實廟宇非常的多所以現在大家挨挨叫明明他們已經被貼了紅單跟黃單 |
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沒有貼的我們不說就憑著已經被我們相關土木機師、結構機師貼了紅單跟黃單就憑這樣他們也拿不到主院長我們是不是應該要思考一下他也是建物啦他只是生命的大單位他家裡人有可能比我們平常人還要多 |
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所以這個部分該怎麼辦謝謝陳委員當初地震之後0121之後委員跟著很多委員跟著我我們跑了好多地方大家很清楚的了解地方的狀況那為什麼這個整個核定的時間會比較慢因為紅單照我手上的資料現在500多件 |
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黃丹也一千六百多件其實院長關鍵在哪裡你知道因為在零一二一之後餘震又特別多所以我們是做了第二次第一次完我們又做第二次我們為了慎重起見慎重起見也進行了很詳細的負評也謝謝三大工會三大工會一而再的那工程會我一直要求他一定要核實那至於說我們這個是針對受災住宅的一個補貼啦 |
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所以剛剛委員所說的才會有那種狀況那現在整個執行開始執行以及過程當中怎麼樣去面對剛剛委員所說的這樣的狀況是不是請劉部長來說明一下謝謝陳委員對於廟宇的關心原來我們在零一二一的這個地震的時候所做的不管是重建 修繕 |
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都是針對有住人的住宅的補貼或是修繕等等這些我想委員非常清楚那如果是跟公共建築有關包括學校農會的話他各有原來的目的事業主管機關來幫忙那有關廟宇的部分第一個他有沒有登記有案或者是說他原來在建的時候那裡面沒有住人那我想我是不是請我們自己的總理司 |
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來跟委員這邊聯繫一下如果有廟宇的需要有修建的補助的話我們來看看用什麼樣的檢討方式可以來協助他們但是我們首要的部分是在於地震之後對於有住人的部分不要有危險產生那現在委員所提示出來不管他是紅單還是黃單還是急需要協助的話我們來看看有什麼方案可以比照基本上這裡面都會有住人 |
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它並不是其實在山區的廟宇他們都會有住持或是會有在地方負責的人因為它在山區那如果是有合格的建物的話呢我們會按照合格建物或是住宅的修繕補貼的方向來處理那是不是我們再盤點一下看看用什麼樣的方式呢可以解決災民的困擾 |
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陳書偉說明報告委員 1月21號的地震台南市政府在2月6號就已經有公告那公告的部分就是說紅單黃單裡面如果涉及到要重建要拆除的那麼他就補助呢按照台南市的相關的自治條例類似徵收自治條例 |
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祭司去評了多少百分之百就補助那修善跟補強呢也是百分之百就是完全由祭司那麼去去負評是因為我們有0206的這個善款所以這個部分沒有問題那其中只有一副呢結構比較問題 |
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要做補強而且不用拆除這部分內政部也答應這一戶的部分內政部會來協助那至於剛才委員所講的廟宇我想因為我們是善款給這個非公共設施道路學校這個主管機關那廟宇的部分我想如果是主管機關是內政的話那我想內政部會針對廟宇的部分那比照 |
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台南市政府的公告內容給予協助因為廟宇比較不一樣因為出入的人其實非常多 |
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他可能危險性會比一般如果你沒有給他一些協助他只是期待就是說為什麼一般我們的所謂房屋的紅單黃單有所謂的補助可是為什麼在廟宇當中就沒有那我覺得說剛剛部長所說的很清楚了那我們會請民政局因為現在民政局他有報了一個計畫上來可是我覺得那個計畫可能對你們來講很難 |
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能夠容納所以我覺得要重新盤點之後把一些實質能夠去協助幫助的否則當時候其實我們從過去很多地震所造成廟宇的損害只要不是古蹟他就沒有辦法得到補助那現在這一次會比較嚴重是因為剛好在山區山區我們在很多的廟宇都在山區 |
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所以這一次在整個地震之後廟宇的受害非常嚴重所以你才會看到有這麼多的紅單黃單而且實質他們有去看 |
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這些紅灘黃灘表示這些結構技師、土木技師、建築師都去看了確實有立即危險可是沒有辦法處理我覺得我們應該站在協助的立場看怎麼在這個部分用專案來幫忙可能這個對於未來我們的這些公共安全會更有幫助所以這個部分再拜託院長、拜託部長還有拜託我們的主委大家共同努力 |
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好 再一次謝謝那這個部分我會請民政局再重新做一個盤點出來謝謝你請劉部長進一步去了解謝謝那院長我想這是非常嚴肅的問題這個馬上會遇到是因為今年今年的冷氣團特別不一樣到現在三月份還有冷氣團聽說還有一波冷氣團是 |
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是因為這個樣子 所以大家感受不到可是我們很擔心 這種天氣變化它的一個急速性 急冷 急熱所以當如果到五月 六月 急熱的時候現在大家開始在吵 電價怎麼辦 |
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我們當時候其實在112年我們也因為要穩定電價因為現在國際燃料的價格是非常恐怖的在整個國際間其實是居高不下的所以在這個狀態之下我們一直在112年我們又增資1500億以後特別預算撥補500億 |
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用這樣的方式然後在113年我們原本預估我們要追加預算1000億但是已經出委員會了因為我在經濟委員會我非常清楚出委員會囉現在代協商再來今年的根本不用說啦就直接被砍掉 |
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院長我很擔心原來我們希望藉著這個撥補因為這不應該是轉嫁在人民的身上我們用撥補來抑制這個電價這樣的一個所謂難以控制的一個方向但是我們現在從去年到今年我們的撥補都已經包括追加預算撥補都被刪掉甚至還在協商這怎麼辦 |
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這個電價怎麼辦大家開始擔心了謝謝委員一直支持中央政府總預算的內容也一直關心台電我在這裡也代表台電28000名同仁向委員表示感謝我們對於電價的考慮一直是從反應成本照顧民生穩定物價節能減碳以及使用者付費這樣的原則來看那其中會看到照顧民生穩定物價是其中兩個相當重要 |
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我們當然不是我們來決定電價是電價審議委員會但是我想院也好部也好跟台電都會用這樣的原則來做內部充分的討論我們絕對不希望造成民生物價的大幅的波動或是內心的一種驚慌所以我也請郭部長好好的審把這個 |
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狀況收集條件收集分析好之後有期有時間到了需要提供給電影家生意委員會的時候國保黨自然會用這樣的原則去做溝通我希望能夠平穩大家的心情 |
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院長這個很重要因為我們現在開始在下鄉我們在討論這個總預算的問題跟大家知道我們未來我們國家的方向可能我會被總預算去卡到可是我想這就是最現實的從去年的追加沒有 |
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出我們的大院然後到我們的撥補又被刪掉這個東西 |
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這兩千億的問題怎麼辦 怎麼辦所以現在大家都在問 啊 委員啊 啊我們五月份六月份 啊我們的電價要怎麼樣大家很擔心 就像剛剛院長所說的 我們不能讓大家恐慌因為我們的電價會影響到物價 |
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這個一上去就回不來了所以為什麼我們一直希望說我們台電的撥補很重要因為在國際的燃料整個的價格不是我們控制的我們不能因為這樣影響到我們的電價甚至在影響到我們的物價所以我們在每次經濟委員會在審議的時候甚至在質詢的時候我都支持一定要撥補 |
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郭部長他也要考慮到台電的財政健全跟結構我們會先從財務面來協助台電能夠穩定然後再從其他的應該要努力的從創電到售電來分離我想我們希望在撥補的部分能夠 |
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彌補過去因為照顧民生而產生的這些債務所以我們希望這個撥補還是要請求大院能夠給我們這些輔助因為院長其實在過去我想在經濟委員會很清楚我們1000億你們也只刪了30億但是現在送到大院來 |
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可能這個地方被整個刪除我們覺得是希望能夠再繼續溝通然後希望這個大院能夠同意再給我們補助我們在審這個預算的時候你也在現場我們光為了這個我們論述了多久啊結果我們那麼認真在經濟委員會審然後在大院大筆一揮就把我們刪掉那請問我們經濟委員審幹嘛 |
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這個是民生問題耶不是政治問題所以我們真的拜託要好好審視這個部分因為沒有撥補我們很怕 |