IVOD_ID |
159277 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159277 |
日期 |
2025-03-17 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-3 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
3 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-17T12:31:11+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-17T12:41:36+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:10:25 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/597499b2503050fb8bed81aff5acef37fc70f51a359b58cfb6aeebfddff728ef92aeab3b46f231cd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
委員發言時間 |
12:31:11 - 12:41:36 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第3次全體委員會議(事由:邀請行政院公共工程委員會主任委員陳金德列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。) |
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加持委好 請陳主委李博弈 李博弈 廖三輩 廖豐國在委員長 主委早我看你會不會一直人在問你這個公共工程金職獎這個事情其實你做過地方委員你才知道凍結要解凍是很容易的事情啊而且長久以來你印象中有凍結的案子到後來沒有解凍的嗎 |
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你到底會做到過這高雄市的副市長做宜蘭縣的 |
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你印象中有凍結的案子後來沒有解凍的嗎主要是兩件事第一個從來沒有說要求議員會同意使得凍資這件事情立法院也許從南京成立立法院到現在查一下看看有沒有說要求到議員會去解凍的很多其實有啦你有誤解了有有立法院送到議員會解凍的很多 |
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那第二個就是說平常我們在委員會內大家都很熟識業務很瞭解那委員們也認真審查這個業務所以在委員會解凍溝通很容易啦所以才不會去真正去嚴肅去 |
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想說解凍這件事情合憲或合法在委員會是OK啦講一下所以如果那麼嚴肅提高到院會來決定我們看611之前新司法院會能夠審理的只有幾項宣戰、構合、預算法案及其他國家重要事項所以難道我們要求工程會 |
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一億或幾千萬的解凍案算要報到院會去解凍屬國家重大事項嗎這份倒是其實每一年啊都有一些案子是送到院會去要求解凍老蔣也非常簡單沒有困難我就看了你這個案子最重要是你你被凍結的理由是什麼如果是合理的又很簡單的你就不能夠好像是情的讓我們那些民間團體 |
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覺得說好像是立法院去砍了他的預算啊你應該把它交代清楚啊你知道你這邊為什麼你的業務費被凍結了50%你沒看那個按鈕注意 你知道你為什麼被凍了50%嗎你應該去看提案啊這個提案很容易解開啊我點給你聽啦 來 看這個 |
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上一張來上一張給主委看一下來來來解凍的條件你看清楚了嗎來為什麼會凍了公共工程業務費為什麼會凍了50%因為根據112年審計部的審計報告上面說的他說什麼他說你們公共工程這個資料庫沒有提供結標的價格對應的標的資訊跟底價的金額 |
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他要你這個提出來啊因為這通過 因為這很困難對不對這個難做嗎 甘不難受第一 審計部的決算報告標是合理 |
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合情有需要嘛 對不對所以他要求用這個理由要你做這件事情合理嘛他要你解凍的理由很簡單啊你就照這樣做把這個資料庫建立起來送到立法院來報告這個很簡單啊對你來說可能一天就做好事了是不是 |
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齁 所以 四位我們知道你很努力 你也為了動50%在堅固 我知道啦問題你如果把這個提案內容弄清楚好不好你會怎麼說啊 你說你很努力要解凍對不對你趕快把這個案子這幾天就做好了嘛啊有兩個管道嘛 你看我們的 |
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你交通委員會這麼幸運 你有這麼英明 理性的召委林國成在這裡你拜託他稍微去拜啊 但是你也拜託韓院長稍微去拜啊是不是 這個有困難嗎 會不會 不會嘛報告委員就是說 我剛剛講過 院會來處理委員會審查過的預算 |
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是還要同意使得動之這件事情的確是很少見啦也很難執行我坦白講到現在為止貴院大院都還沒有明確說這個關於預算院會同意使得動之這件事情來教導行政院教我們應該怎麼提案 教導不敢啦 不過你人言那好 你現在去找韓院長或者是提出來 我跟你講立法院這個事情也不會拖啦我給大家看一個資料 |
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這個我列這個資料你們一定有印象113年啊被凍結的預算交通部傻傻一餅他在什麼時候解凍大家知道嗎4月18號 |
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4月18號交通這個決議叫什麼113年度中央政府總計算管理交通部主管凍結案有多少股尼113年度31項一天在交通委員會開完會就解凍啦解凍因為是宴會交下來了嘛親同意動資提報宴會交通部有31項就過啦你公共工程委員會股尼應該也有凍結啊你是幾個案過來審完就過啦 |
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那更不要講院會啦 院會到時候一定是把你你凍結最主要就是這個業務費嘛 對不對我都要講過啦 審計部要求的事情對他來說很簡單的啊那我看你的工作同仁應該很強啊你交代一下這個案子 明天就你好啦應該是4月18號以前 應該可能就解凍了吧所以第一個不用擔心你們有好的招委立法院也一定會盡速去通過嘛其實重點 我今天要強調喔 |
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內容要看因為審計部為什麼這樣要求立法院為什麼要這樣要求啊我剛剛講的嘛 你也點頭嘛 對不對他的要求是合情合理合法嘛 對不對啊對人家講很容易做嘛那就趕快做啊你來這邊不是一直在解決你是在解決問題了啊不是一直在解釋問題或者製造問題啊好不好先弄到民間連那個金詞獎金詞獎已經辦了幾屆了二十四屆第一屆五屆這樣你如果照預算法的規定 |
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我們的總預算到現在還沒完全過總統還沒公告預算法裡面有明定啊 法定的預算啊延續性的預算本來就可以延續啊你已經說24屆判25為什麼不行我今年是算第25屆所以預算指的是今年的預算他就是要延續性的嘛尤其這不能反對啦僅此講這麼好的一個獎項 對不對 |
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他如果是特優我看那個特優他以後去外面那個比價的時候他那個底標省二分之一耶對不對而且都很有榮耀啊總統還頒獎啊 |
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好不好所以 聽他講 聽他講第一個 你趕快把案子提出來因為很容易嘛 我都已經提案內容了嘛然後趕快送上去 我認為院會很快就會通過所以對外不要再講什麼金職獎沒辦法辦了你今天就清清楚楚跟他們講金職獎不只會辦 會辦得比以前更好我剛才已經有說明了 就是說如果4月底之前 |
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預算能夠獲得解凍 那金職獎繼續辦如果10月底之前預算沒有解凍 那金職獎今年恐怕沒辦法辦另外我跟委員報告就是說以這個黨團提案然後說主決議是院會同意時的動之這件事情完全百分之百侵犯了委員會的權責 |
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委員會所有的預算在委員會已經審閉了包括凍結凍結這是第一個我們最好不要經常有這樣的東西主委這沒有切換啊這歷年來的立法院就是這樣運作啊有些送到委員會凍結解凍啊有些送到立法院主決議通常是委員會通常主 |
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主席通常是同意委員會所提的說委員會解凍那第二個就是很重視你們工程會所以才會送到院會嘛不過最重要其實我剛才說的內容合情合理合法而且很快啦我再跟你講一個觀念我們再溝通一個觀念事實上每一年凍結案都很多我剛才說大概113年度高中報的31例對不對我剛才還特別請那個指揮你回想一下你當過立法委員有凍結案後來沒有解凍的嗎 |
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非常少耶我印象中只有一次啦賴清德因為國民黨去動了那個公共電視的那個那個預算啦因為賴清德那時候賴總統是那個幹事長他不願意簽那個解凍後來公視跟一些人民團體就在報紙上登了一個廣告要賴清德賴幹事長要解凍只有賴比其他一定如期嘛所以你不要擔心你的什麼金字獎沒辦法辦啦另外我給大家看一下 |
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今年啊 凍結的凍結的這個比例啊佔總預算的4.6%我說我從90年開始算那時候你已經在內閣啦90年開始算有8次都比今年的凍結比例都還高了你就算金額有4年比今年都還高啊我剛才講了都解凍啦所以我拜託一下一方面我是會說這幾天包括行政院長帶著部會首長下去就會講說什麼凍結沒辦法做 |
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以前就沒有這個問題啊這是第一個我今天要特別強調的第二個你一直在擔心你的金職獎因為我昨天看了報紙還登了大大一個版你趕快給我們優秀的優良的那些建商獎金職獎沒有問題好不好OK好謝謝好主委謝謝 |