IVOD_ID |
159194 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159194 |
日期 |
2025-03-14 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-5 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第5次會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
5 |
會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第5次會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-14T16:15:48+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-14T16:31:54+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:16:06 |
支援功能[0] |
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video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7c41c7866a52398a6f93451940ca9936769f2953f6d3be09d73a7bbe31daea54fefbc25bed5bb6755ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
委員發言時間 |
16:15:48 - 16:31:54 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第5次會議(事由:一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、3月14日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、3月18日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。) |
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好 謝謝主席 又請行政院我們左院長麻煩再請左院長備詢議長好 我有15分鐘請教六個問題 |
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第一個問題就是你禮拜四多久了,七十多年紀念會的時候,總統說酒再酒,為了要通締台灣你禮拜四做像很多台灣人這樣失去的社名他是一個獨裁者,獨裁者所犯下的滔天大罪 |
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所以去年我也在這個地方請教,叫李洛媽熊處理在裡面,在紀念堂裡面的憲兵在那裡抄眼,現在刷出來外面未來,我希望進一步轉型正義的部分在這個特別對獨裁者的師父臨請跟大師臨請臨請的意思是什麼? |
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林鄭月娥屬於帝王的墳墓就像這個帝王把他的神格化變成一個帝王為獨裁者蓋一個慈福陵寢他哪裡慈啊他一點都不慈白色恐怖的蔣經國還有一個大勢陵寢而都有我們的國軍在那 |
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戰哨戰哨是說還有相關的這個交接這個浪費國家的這個兵力浪費國家的資源為一個獨裁者這個部分可能也一定要請教國防部還有文化部這個相關這兩部分我想請教一下卓院長您的看法怎麼樣未來要怎麼樣針對這個這兩個獨裁者的這個領請 |
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謝謝委員我這個有這個機會向委員也向大家說明那天我是全程在場在總統當場的講話我們聽到他的真正他的意義是希望台灣這個中華民國這個國家民主的國家要告別那種封建的帝王式的您說的以及那種在族群之間或是文化之間落差所造成的傷害是希望以後都不會再發生 |
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所以我們他在那邊講話原意在這裡那不會發生重要我們要從有真相道歉到究責這三個部分要很清楚的向社會也向受害人表達一個政府基本的態度那對獨裁者的我們的態度 |
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也很重要啊是我不能還能派國家的資源國家的衛兵國家的這個國軍去為一個這個獨裁者去守他的墳墓這沒有道理這個未來一定要拿出積極的做法這個要落實這個是一個關鍵這個過去的總統也曾經處理過類似這樣的事情也希望能夠處理但是就社會的共識跟這些 |
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家屬的意見還沒有達到一致但是我們認為衛兵的財色有那麼困難嗎我想請教部長我們認為我們現在應該就整個國家的環境裡面是應該有適當的處理方法可以讓他們有一個安心的地方我了解但是衛兵的財色為一個獨裁者有派那麼多衛兵這個30人的鞭制這為什麼不能把它為什麼不能這個一定要在那邊操演嗎一定要在那邊駐守嗎 |
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這個部長我回答一下因為有一個去年7月15號原來是在大廳的那個一對那個是條例我了解但是這個所謂領請這是辦法 辦法是可以修改的我現在講中央紀念堂以下來做的結果給委員了解一下 |
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就是我們在部長那個我都了解因為我諮詢的關係我說你這個所謂中正那個是屬於這個條例那是法律那是辦法 零錢是相關的辦法 辦法是可以修改的是屬於行政命令就可以修改的但你要不要做而已我想這個議題我大概就到這邊希望說院長以您的高度然後兩位部長能夠重視這個問題 |
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好,第二個問題想請教,兩位部長先請這個中國藉由兩岸的交流對台灣進行統戰的滲透特別是有一些藝人在中國發展他演藝事業這個情況之下會變成說,變成他宣傳的一個工具所以,譬如說最近發表對台灣主權傷害的言論或者轉貼一些文章 |
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那當然總統說話,就是說主管機關應當對中國藝人的相關的管理或者輔導要有一些明確的措施但我覺得這些只是道德的勸說所以我提案修改兩岸人民關係條例人民關係條例第九條,第九條搭配法則第九十一條 |
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把這個樣態寫出來,不只藝人,相關的國人如果在中國對台灣的主權相關的傷害的言論當然要受到一定法的規範,甚至要有相關的裁罰裁罰,我是搭配兩岸人民關係條例裁罰的標準,當然是五萬人裁罰有很多鄉親跟我說,這裁罰太輕了 |
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我想請教我這樣子提這兩樣的難民關係條例的修法搭配你們相關的行政作為這樣子呢 相互相承這個我想請教一下院長的意見我覺得藝人應該很清楚自開始的時候來自台灣國人的掌聲才讓他們在文化事業上有所進展 |
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但是如果因為嚮往或是看到以為中國大陸的那樣的市場但是忘了這個生養他的地方會讓他斷了根而且中國的地方你看多少藝人去想抓就抓財產想沒就沒這個部分絕對不是一個穩定的民主社會該有的所以我認為還是讓他們希望能夠把根留在台灣 |
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這是道德勸說,道德勸說沒有用我們會發展我們自己強而有力的以台灣本土為主的一個主流以台流的文化來強化我們自己內部那是一個長期的過程,那是一個理想化的狀態但是他們迫於無奈,他們有很多的這個是沒有辦法自我選擇的這個是中性行為,但是要記得掌聲給他們是從台灣開始的 |
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但他們不會這麼想那我從法治方面去修改然後一定的法律規範一定的這個處罰那個陸委會的立場 |
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謝謝邱委員 謝謝您的用心如果相關的違法樣態能夠在法律裡面定清楚那當然在我們做規範樂觀其成對 我這邊是樂觀其成以我的版本當作行政院的版本這個部分我們再來跟委員來演繹好 謝謝這個就是 |
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怎麼樣用法制面再補充現有法制面的不足讓他們的相關作為有一些約束謝謝邱主委第三個問題我想是台灣駐外代表證明的進度在2021年我還是請外交部吳次長麻煩請外交部備詢 |
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我在2021年我就開記者會希望外交部有一個推動正名小組能夠通令所有的駐外館處能夠積極在台灣一片友好的國際環境當中能夠推動所有的外館都是以台灣為名 |
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我希望這個當作外館考核的一個重要指標而不是只有美國美國當然 美國跨黨參議員提出的台灣自民法這非常好但是這個過程需要很多的努力我希望說 國外交部能夠組成一個推動證明小組通令各館住能夠確實去執行達成這個目標我想請教一下吳次長您的 |
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報告委員其實那個更改就是管署證明還牽扯到一個比較複雜的問題就是我們要更改的那個管署跟他承載來自中國壓力的一個問題很多國家是無法承載來自中國的壓力的所以以我在法國六年多的一個經驗事實上是先我們先把多在對外的說明多加上台灣 |
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那多加上台灣之後讓大家在使用的時候多使用這個會變成一個 變成一個 一個就大家都會不一不一的使用你要講我都了解我的用意很簡單我希望說外交部要有一個小組要通靈跟管束每一個作為管束都一定有他的難度啦難度不一但是一定要努力可操是在在己的部分你要通靈給這個 |
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這個駐外的大使你要想方設法用盡任何關係短期、長期、中期總是要有一些進展每一個駐外管束都有不同的狀況我都理解但是一定要正視這個問題如果我們不做這名稱永遠不會改所以這是一個長期的目標另外格力蘭最近一位川普對格力蘭的看法格力蘭選舉昨天才落幕但我們跟格力蘭的距離其實沒有那麼遠 |
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你從哥本漢過去大概只有五個小時現在是我們住的代表住所管轄它是北京航道的一個重要戰略位置它有稀土 還有資源 還有漁產還有美國的基地在那邊也有一些科研的基地我們不能完全跟格陵蘭沒有任何的互動 |
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那經過我去了解,我目前駐丹麥辦事處過去跟格力蘭的議會31席沒有任何的互動我是覺得還是要跟他們有互動雖然政黨有換,但是基本的立場沒有變但是四海皆是朋友所以不能說他比較遙遠,我們就完全沒有跟他接觸 |
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況且未來有很多他們基礎建設不足啦況且很多能源開發也許我們台灣可以Do something市長您的意見我想格力蘭當然像剛才委員講的他是我們駐丹麥代表處那邊所負責的我們現在跟丹麥其實還有一些其實也是一些名城的問題我們有待解決 |
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那我想我們一定會遵照委員的一個訓練訓練那個駐丹麥的代表先期比較不冷的時候我想再組個團去 |
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去了解一下這個當地的環境他們追求獨立的雖然只有5萬7000人口是臺灣的面積200倍如果有機會的話我也希望說能夠跟他們有一些的互動不管是國會或者行政部門謝謝吳次長好 謝謝委員第四個問題是經濟方面就是說面對關稅戰跟中國的傾銷我想這部分可能要請到郭部長請經濟部郭部長麻煩請經濟部長備詢 |
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這個部分我們在南部南部是傳統的製造業傳統產業為主傳統產業他們有一點想法有一點抱怨政府把所有資源集中在半導體跟AI水電完全供應所有的政策的焦點都放在AI跟半導體傳統的製造業比較少得到政府的關愛或者是協助當然這不完全是事實 |
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但是他們有一些抱怨是我們是不是要放棄傳統產業了我們是不是不再顧我們傳統產業我們就是發展AI跟半導體特別我在江山是螺絲扣件是鋼鐵所以我覺得應該趕快推動傳統產業升級轉型2.0來讓從傳統產業能夠轉型能夠有更多的競爭力能夠讓他們安心是政府永遠做你們的後盾 |
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所以我擔心這個高國民所的情況之下是由產業發展不均衡所造成的影響所造成的結果但你不要忘了很多中南部的從業人口都是做這個傳統產業 |
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所以我覺得經濟部或者行政院或政府應該讓傳統業者知道政府絕對是拿出具體的做法跟資源讓你們安心協助你們轉型讓你們維持競爭力這部分這個報告委員對於AI來協助這個中小微企業成長的部分我們大概有兩個做法第一個就是他需要的訂單我們從通路上面來支持他第二個 |
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在AI的訓練上面 除了數位化我想他們不一定能夠完全的了解所以我們就是讓他習作我們會責成我們所屬的這些機構我讓他來做 |
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所以我有感激來同心善你要有這個整個大戰略 傳統產業升級轉型2.0你要明確 傳統產業中哪一部分 工體的 後建的 那就九塊這個各有它的問題 土地問題 資金的問題 人才的問題 或者勞動力的問題沒有錯 我們現在就是用AI進入整個 它需要生產的 |
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那我們協助他進入那個生產的這個情境如果他是服務業的我們也讓他進入服務業的這個情境來讓他習作學習不是只有學也讓他習作政策要落實需要一點時間我了解但是你要讓這個中小企業組傳統企業傳統產業中小企業讓他們了解政府的確 |
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有權利吸收他們但是他們反應給我說他們好像是政策的企鵝一樣要求部長我們更廣泛大規模的跟中小企業做說明我們做了一些比較分散型的集中起來做說明希望淨零轉型不會給他帶來成本的負擔 |
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好 謝謝邱志偉委員的質詢謝謝卓院長 各相關部會所長的備詢 謝謝接下來我們請登記第27號 |