| IVOD_ID |
159149 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159149 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T11:13:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T11:22:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770fd6b161daf61c95a92f58198bcf8270c186f8ffab8834d983a478bf4b7292ce505ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳琪銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:13:28 - 11:22:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長劉世芳、經濟部、交通部、金融監督管理委員會、台灣電力股份有限公司就「公寓大廈裝設電動車輛充電裝置之相關法令、國家標準、建築設計、管理維護、火災預防措施及相關保險類別與要保人之認定」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【本次會議若因當日加開院會而停開，不再另行通知】） |
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我們請吳清明委員質詢我請我們內政部我們的董事長還有民建署的署長消防署的署長 |
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委員好各位好今天我們所討論的針對我們的充電樁的問題 |
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充電樁的問題現在已經在推動但是目前是整個74包括全球有1700多萬輛其中5輛就有一輛是我們的電動車所以在國發會2050年進行排放 |
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這個路徑 計畫所以我們2040年能夠達到百分之百的電動車但是我們現在存在的問題就是我們的老舊社區所以剛才我看了很多委員 大家都有提出說老舊社區你要怎麼來建置你在新的社區這邊我們營建署就要把關 |
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這樣才能落實電動車和電動樁的問題 才能徹底解決但是醫本學來瞭解 大家都擔心的就是老舊社區的電路 絕對符合不了 |
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還有呢 你說在本縣的轄區在土城土城 它的鋰電池爆炸造成三個人的死亡這署長都非常清楚所以說你未來你的安全性我們也要第一的考量你新的社區架構絕對沒問題但是你舊的社區你的電路負荷不了的話又會產生一個 |
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變成又有一個悲劇發生所以我們都要特別的注意不是說要推動速度要快但是你的安全性你一定要考量到但是本學有一個建議每棟社區都有一個開放空間是不是我們的建構可以在開放空間這邊我們來選擇開放空間的位置建構充電樁我認為這裡我們營建署署長 |
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感謝委員 這確實就是我們北京 就是說在這個全部的消防法規 還有安全的設計在地下室如果沒辦法很快完成的時候 還是民眾可以感受到消毒的疑慮的時候今天一個比較好的替代方案就是說 我們在石瓦 我們北面的開放空間先鼓勵它在那裡設 當然也不是說它清拆設就好了 |
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這當然我們現在這幾個月跟這個建議所跟消防署的討論就是說我們如果在這個社區的停車機我可以設在我旁邊有相關的灑水設施還是說旁邊有消防栓他第一時間可以趕快降溫這個相關的規範我們如果確定就是要這樣做的時候我們會先透過指引設計一個指引給國管局政府 |
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因為現在很多老舊的大樓老舊大樓的地下室大家民眾絕對有疑慮因為很多大樓不管管委會大家都有提出提出還是沒辦法解決因為都太老舊了 |
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所以說在開放空間來設置這是應該我們目前內政部應該朝這個方向這樣可以比較保不然你看在我們土城一個鋁電池的爆炸就造成三個人的死亡這種悲劇我們也不想再看到所以我們一定要把關安全性我們一定要把關再來現在就是針對我們客運業 |
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客運類我們很多公車都要把它推動電動車但是推動的成效並不好你看光是本席這邊的資料光是新北市就有2500輛然後其中有1600輛逐年要淘汰電動車那累計 |
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累計到現在才240輛那我們核定在補助的338輛都陸續要來推動的但是公車業者他們存在一個問題這是我們經濟部還有我們的台電還有我們的能源局大家都要共同來解決客運業他們的問題 |
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因為客運列你電動車你所佔的停車比例又更高你一般的柴油車比例20平你電動車要佔的差不多30平然後費用呢光是一個充電樁一個客運列就要花了兩三千萬所以你 |
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業者願意花但是我們相關單位配合度又不高不然說台電的電力有問題不然就土地的有問題你知道他們客運業他們的停車場都是用租的租期又短 |
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所以我們要徹底來解決你要推動電動車你起碼我們中央的配套一定要先把它做好你這樣才能推動的比較順利那不然業者他們想你政府又不配合然後又要要求我台灣電動車那這樣 |
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就不成比例啊這就是我們中央單位你一定要扛起這個肩膀啊我們要怎樣來扶植他那費用又是他們出的然後你一些行政程序我們都是要幫忙來解決問題啊那是不是我請交通部交通部今天有來吧 |
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我們交通部目標是在2031年要把我們的市區公車11700輛全面電動化那針對客運業者在貪換過程中大概除了車輛轉換之外很在乎就是有關於充電環境在廠商內充電設施的這件事情那這部分我們在從推動這個電動公車的過程中我們就一直跟經濟部有在合作然後來協助地方政府 |
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的客運業者然後來解決這個設置充電站的問題目前我們有有一個三級的機制就是包含台電公司會跟地方政府然後來就客運業者提出來有需要生設充電站的這個部分的話都會盡力來做協助而據我的瞭解台電公司大概陸陸續續大概這幾年有九十二個九十幾個案子大概都已經陸陸續續都已經有協助地方政府的客運業者排除設置充電站這個問題以上根本報告好 |
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那因為我為什麼提出這個因為公車早期我們都知道公車它的排放排放量都很大那你要是整個都市裡面都推動電動車都能可以解決這個污染的問題 |
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所以你一定要站在我們業者的本身來做協助那這樣他們才願意來來汰換不然你這腳步應該還是沒辦法推動很順利那再來我說他們的停車場租期又短那又短他們要設立又要投資那麼多錢那是不是我們中央 |
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找國產署大家來研究由我們國產署提供土地因為是大眾的運輸啊這樣你才能解決他們的問題這樣推動的速度也才會快 |
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跟委員報告現在這個客運業者的停車場的依照我們汽車運輸業管理規則都有相關的一些要求啦那至於在客運業者取得這個充電廠站的土地上面有沒有需要跟其他部會包含國產署這邊聯繫說讓他們在取得土地上面然後可以來生設充電站那邊的部分的話有更方便或怎麼樣的話我們會依照委員的建議我們會再找相關單位來做研議以上好 |
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我看這就由我們交通部來做主導嘛你找相關單位來做研究好不好研究報告你來通知給本席知道好不好好謝謝 |