| IVOD_ID |
159125 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159125 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T11:36:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T11:47:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770ffc8388445bf03140e83d902c8d6dd6c2ff1cdb1affc83ff47676b3772217087c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:36:21 - 11:47:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席那我們請楊總裁 |
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總裁今天被尋一個早上其實也辛苦了謝謝你那個總裁去年的這個3月的時候其實我們在這邊也質詢過總裁那我覺得這個時間好像有倒流到這個去年這個時光去年的3月的這個李建勢央行的李建勢會議記者會上 |
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然後這個總裁就說當時升息半碼主要是為了抑制就講去年4月電價上漲引發的國內通膨的預期的心理那當然這個升息半碼會讓市場覺得有點surprise但是這是合理的一個決定那我記得到時候大家在質詢的時候外界有給總裁一個封號叫做Mr. |
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Surprise |
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那我覺得說這是去年三月的事情怎麼到了今年三月份我們在討論這個事情好像有這個既視感好像跟去年的這個時候也差不多第一個國內今年的一二月呢消費者物價指數CPI呢平均年增率超過百分之二的這個通貨警戒線第二個呢海鐵呢恐怕會調漲的部分的費用那加上呢 |
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這個台電的兩千億的預算被債務局砍掉了所以電價也面臨調漲的壓力所以後續物價有可能有上漲的一些壓力第三個就是說美國川普總統上任那會加增關稅然後聯準會的貨幣政策有可能會造成CPI的指數無法回落到1.5%以下所以本席再請教總裁 |
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那這個外界在預期說下個禮拜的這個央行的禮監事會之後呢是否會採取這個預防性的申請因為好像去年的這個情況跟現在的這個情況好像也差不多 |
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總裁你不覺得好像我去年講的這些東西跟今年的遇到的狀況好像有點類似我覺得委員掌握我們整個的邏輯跟說法還有整個經濟金融的情況掌握得非常好 |
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那我想第一個我們還是由委員我們的理事來決定當然了來決定那當然就是說委員在講就是說那個去年的情況跟今年的情況好像是有一點類似對啊你那時候就是怕說會有預期性的這個通膨的心理嘛所以就升息了半碼而且去年這個情況跟今天情況好像差不多啊不過我想我們3月20號就會揭曉 |
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那我請教總裁現在這個情況跟去年的情況有沒有有點類似是有一點類似有點類似那這檔案好像呼之欲出不過也就是說我們要想就是說雖然就是說情況有一點類似不過第一個我們也會考慮到就是說我們的雖然就是說這個通膨會上修但是雖然是在2%左右那我們要不要很擔心這個是第一個 |
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第二個,我們長期還是認為我們的通膨還是有下來的一個趨勢那這個我們是不是也要考量第二個,我們也會考量到現在的不確定性不管是對通膨的不確定性或是對經濟的不確定性我們必須要更關心它 |
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那其實我聽總裁這樣講如果真的下禮拜開會有升息辦碼我覺得大概也沒有這麼驚喜啦是不是 |
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不過就是說因為在這邊因為是理事共同來討論的我在這邊好像也不便得說那剛才總裁有提到很多次提到這個不確定性我剛才在答覆其他的立委的時候也提到這個有關川普總統上台之後那其實去年的11月我也問過 |
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這個總裁那時候川普當選那我就問總裁我就說這個川普當選的心情會怎麼樣那總裁那時候的回答是說呢這個政策是不容易預測那就是有不確定性那所以呢這個市場金融市場如果有這個不確定性呢就是一個很大的問題那我看這個總裁今天的報告也很多次出現這個不確定性那經過了這一個半年再來看那這個不確定性還是很高嗎 |
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事實上呢所以我們在這邊第六頁這邊有講到就是說那個時候呢都對川普的交易呢非常樂觀所以你看碰碰碰他美國的這些的數據包括股市啦美元啦還有那個公債的利率啊都是 |
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表達非常對美國非常的樂觀不過最近我想委員知道他現在的這個樂觀的情緒是慢慢在correction但是他的correction我個人解讀只是說是恢復到9月以前的 |
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所以也沒有特別的壞所以現在市場有一股認為美國好像現在要進入衰退期事實上這是一個對於樂觀的預期現在是一個correction也就是現在是cool down的時候 |
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先是一個過渡過渡其實跟去年九月其實預期是差不多當時的預期會比較高所以這個就是說人類的心理投資人的一個心理就是這樣市場的心理就是這樣 |
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那我請教一下台積電的問題我剛剛很多委員都提到那其實台積電加碼投資美國一千億美元那台積電的董事長魏哲嘉其實還有提到他說先進的研發中心都是在台灣不論是兩奈米1.6奈米1.4奈米甚至一奈米都是在台灣是真正的研發中心那台積電在美國的研發中心 |
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規模大概是1000人那他主要是做什麼呢生產線的製程優化跟我們剛才提到的那個所謂的這個真正研發中心是不一樣的那美國台商的會長韓如柏呢他這兩天呢有一個 |
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演講川普關稅台灣基金片那他有提到說呢川普總統一直在強調半導體產業對美國未來的重要性那中國大陸也知道這個弱點而且試圖利用它最近就指控中國指控台灣把台積電當作伴手禮送給他人 |
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山洞本來就已經緊張了國內情勢這不是只有共產黨在講我看很多在野黨在講台積電會變成美積電那我再請教一下因為也有一些學者提到說這個台積電加碼投資一千億會造成衝擊到台灣的會市那請教一下會有這個衝擊嗎 |
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所以我剛剛事實上我們外匯局也有去請教過台積電它的財務處基本上就我所了解的 |
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對匯市呢因為他就是說要多增加一千億的投資一千億的投資剛剛我同仁也在講就是說事實上也不是一次到位嘛對因為他是四年嘛也就是說一年是兩百五十億啦一年如果說就用這樣評論但是台積電很會賺錢而且他賺的都是外幣都是美元所以呢我剛剛我同仁也有去請教他他們一年的營收是將近一千億美元 |
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所以說你看看它的營收那麼的龐大所以對外市場我覺得應該是我認為是不會有影響我想央行總裁講話這個份量就夠因為外界有一些人說將台積電去投資會衝擊到台灣的會市 |
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會是如果說以我們現在所掌握的數據還有包括他們告訴我們的基本上也就是說像他1000例而且你看他的1000例事實上他也可以在美國他也可以在美國籌資對 |
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他也可以在那邊籌資還有包括他本身的營收又那麼龐大所以我總覺得對我們外市場的一個不過我也會跟委員報告啦事實上我們每天對於我們的廠商的一個會市這個結構結束我們都會密切的注意他 |
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有啦 我也看到你們報告有寫我們每天每天都是注意這個去年的主會主要是這個賣匯主要是這個主匯啦就是這個主貶啦怕這個新台幣貶太多啦效果也還不錯啦相對其他的這個亞洲國家來講剩下一點時間我請教總裁就是說這個賴總統提到說這個五百元的紙鈔有可能會做改版 |
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那甚至會做這一個紀念幣那我問一下這個目前有在做這個籌備的工作嗎我們對於就是說這個對於這個就是說我們的這個就是說我們我們的這一次那我先講那個紙擦好了對我們不是我們有在規劃就是說用紀念幣或紀念鈔的一個方式紀念幣特別是紀念幣這個部分我們要用這樣來 |
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紀念碑大概時程是到哪時候?我們現在就還正在規劃紫超改版有想過嗎?紀念超現在是沒有所以目前就朝著紀念碑的方式你們要掌握一下時程 |
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這個十二強是去年11月的事情那你們至少今年要把它做出來啊不然明年又變經典賽了啊我們盡量啦有沒有辦法今年做出來這十二強的經典賽我們也是希望啦我們也是希望朝這個目標來做好不好對對對好OK好謝謝謝謝總裁謝謝 |