| IVOD_ID |
159103 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159103 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T10:50:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T11:03:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770fb7a6eea21e44788ae83d902c8d6dd6c2ff1cdb1affc83ff4d197f29790cd35605ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:50:31 - 11:03:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席 二位委員出列習慣了 主席請楊總裁我想現在全國的所有一些做貿易一些企業界大家都很關心就是新台幣兌美元匯率的走向那我想請教一下 |
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現在美國總統川普上任了以後那台幣未來的走向究竟是要穩定的曲扁還是要穩定的要升值 |
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我跟委員報告事實上我都一直在講就是說匯率還是由市場來決定的中央銀行在外匯市場他沒辦法就是說因為他供需所以他要貶的時候中央銀行不能就說強迫他要升中央銀行所能夠做的 |
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他要升的時候你也要升只是中央銀行能夠做的就是說讓他的波動度呢不要太大就是這樣子而已所以才會就是說中央銀行主扁喔對有可能就是說我們主扁為什麼我們要讓他的波動度減緩我們是主升喔也可能我們主升為什麼我們要讓這個新台幣的升幅呢要能夠他的波動度不要太大就是這樣子而已 |
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那既然從你剛剛所說的供需的需求來看的話美國總統川普他是美國優先嘛是不是那我們也可以看到台積電他現在準備要投資多少一千億的美元在美國是不是增加啦增加嘛那表示說他有一千億會匯到美國去所以他需要美元的需求就會比較強 |
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那也不一定不然他要投資美國他就說四年嘛這個是四年他就說四年所以四年每年要投多少深造大概也是八九千億一千億如果說除以四就要一年兩百五十億那兩百五十億我跟委員報告事實上呢台積電他在賺美金他非常會賺 |
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所以呢也就是說他事實上他不必要在外匯市場去買美金他自己賺的美金他就足夠他到那邊去總裁你的意思是說他以後台積電全世界賺的錢如果賺美金的部分他就不會回台灣不因為我跟委員報告請問他在美國的投資的資本支出他的金流是怎麼樣他的金流就是他的美金賺得啊 |
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他賺的直接就投美國所以你這樣講就是錢不會進來台灣啊?錢不會進來台灣啊?不過我跟那個250億就台積電來講250億不算什麼 |
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可是對台灣的一些企業講,不要說是美金啦你光是台幣一億兩億,對中小企業影響都很大對,但是台積電它是比較特殊啦因為台積電,台積電它所賺的美金,我比那個比那些的那個什麼,一些的那個那台積電每一年賺多少美金?據我了解呢,我據我了解 |
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好,請說台積電在2024年,去年是900億美金左右今年預估會到1000億美金以上是,所以那我請教你他現在台積電,等一下局長你等一下因為你這個途徑可能比較知道他賺了錢,他錢不用匯回台灣嗎?就在當地直接投資掉是不是? |
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根據我們了解啦那他上次的投資他有在美國發債有部分的資金會從會在美國的子公司會發美元的債券那另外一個部分就是每年的營收的成長那當然每年的營收就是剛剛跟委員報告的一年像去年是900億今年預估會到1000億900億是台幣還是美金美金美金美金啦好謝謝總裁那這個數字你就可以知道他是相當龐大的齁台積電 |
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跑掉了以後對台灣經濟的影響有多大 |
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台積電對第一個我是覺得啦如果說就一個台積電不過講到這裡的時候我才跟委員報告基本上我們的主管機關也一直在強調基本上80%的業務還是集中在台灣 |
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那個是比較低階的啊沒有沒有因為台積電慢慢的高階的通通會移到美國去啊你不信的話你聽那個美國總統川普講的話他是老實的啊甚至還講到地緣關係發生變化的時候我不是說沒有你怕啦 |
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但是呢 我覺得就是說我們的主管機關一直在強調台積電的A5的重心還是在台灣這是第一個第二個呢 我們它的一個主要的研發中心還是在台灣 |
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總裁請問他所有的技術跟人才過去美國以後以後美國的員工大概有多少人他要成立一個研發中心在那邊為什麼美國總統川普他會說這些都是被偷走的 |
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不是 他只是說我個人覺得啦川普總統他這麼說呢是他的一個話術 |
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它是一個話術它是一個策略那基本上我都總覺得事實上我們台灣的這個半導體我們的直通訊這個是美國它最需要的所以美國在這一方面所以它就半導體這個部分它就盯著台灣因為我們在這個強項從以上的數據其實只是冰山的一角你有沒有算過 |
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台積電過去以後它周邊的相關的周邊的這些上下游大概有幾家會過去?不過我總覺得就是說當你在做國際化的時候你的選擇當然我在這方面我不是專家我只是說我個人的直覺 |
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因為從國際貿易的一個觀點來看的話他那邊去接近市場接近他的客戶我總覺得這個也是很好第二個你要想想看事實上我們台灣第一個我們的土地 |
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也不夠啊美國他的苦地大所以就是說他的資源台積電到美國去投資的時候他也可以利用到美國的資源當然美國的資源有些地方是成本會比較高總裁剛本席請教的是說台積電過去了以後周邊的上下游的企業 |
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還有一些資本都已經過去慢慢過去這個也不一定請問這個也不一定為什麼呢已經就有一定的因為過去有一些做無成事的通通過去了還有上下游周邊的很多都會過去有沒有算過這些如果說一起過去的話它對台灣的影響會有多大 |
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我想企業是很會算的啦而且我總覺得他們是很靈活的據我了解呢現在就是說要到美國去的那些呢大部分都是在墨西哥啦墨西哥呢他就說在美國他也有產生墨西哥他是比較龐大 |
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那現在就是說因為他要對墨西哥扣稅所以他也就是說我們台商在墨西哥那邊他就想就是說那如果說在這樣情況之下在關稅的情況之下他可能把他的一個作業線要挪到美國去所以你的意思是說都沒關係就對了不是這樣子 |
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企業它的一個國際化我總覺得這一條路還是要走的我們一看到台積電一去美國的時候就發現 你有沒有發現一個事情台積電股票漲還跌一千兩百多塊馬上跌破一千塊 |
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市場告訴了總裁什麼總裁告訴你什麼大家的害怕完全就展現出來了這還有一個影響請問台積電是台灣的護國神山你知道它的市值有多少 |
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他的柿子我現在有三條所以他沒長一點 |
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對台股的影響有多大?他是八點嘛所以你看台灣現在股市已經連番下跌這幾天跌很多不過我們的股我跟委員報告我們的兩萬多到目前為止兩萬多還好啦那總裁台積電跑掉了以後你覺得台股兩萬點是不是常態? |
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這個我不敢預測因為我不是股市專家台積電跑掉了以後台股有沒有機會上看三萬點 |
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這個我不曉得,我不是股市的專家這只是一個代表對他的經濟未來的期待跟一個感覺就好像黃金國際的首飾一樣本席在七年前 |
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六年前 五年前 三年前 還有去年多次建議央行總裁要不要考慮買進黃金總裁的回答是我建議的時候是每盎司1270塊的時候現在黃金每盎司多少錢 |
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我剛 我在去年的那個總裁三千塊我也有跟委員報告啦我也佩服委員啦但是呢 我也說但是中央銀行的考量是又跟一般的不大一樣這個不考量那個虛擬貨幣你現在態度支不支持虛擬貨幣比特幣 川普總統所講的五大虛擬貨幣他要作為什麼 戰略儲備 |
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現在你是不是也要跟進到目前為止我們是不會啦不過我們會密切關注啦你現在支不支持台灣做虛擬貨幣因為那個什麼叫戰略儲備的這個名詞這個東西虛擬的比特幣還有其他的虛擬貨幣是不是能夠當作戰略儲備這個我到目前為止我還是稍微有一點Question |
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希望你多考量啊但是你不要違背川普啊你不要忤逆川普啊全世界的潮流在改變的時候我們還要顧不知風嗎我建議你虛擬貨幣比特幣的時候是一枚六千塊美金現在多少了多少 |
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之前漲到10萬塊美金一枚我只是提醒央行世界在變的時候我們一定要顧不知風嗎世界在改變的時候我們沒有一點檢討或思考的空間嗎謝謝委員新台幣的數字貨幣什麼時候要推出我們還在往前我們這個會期還在等待謝謝 |
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羅委員明才：（10時50分）主席、各位委員、出列席官員，大家好。主席，請楊總裁。 |
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主席：楊總裁請。 |
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楊總裁金龍：羅委員早。 |
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羅委員明才：楊總裁，早安。我想現在全國所有做貿易的企業界大家都很關心新臺幣兌美元匯率的走向，我想請教一下，現在美國總統川普上任了以後，臺幣未來的走向究竟是要穩定的趨貶還是要穩定的升值？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我跟委員報告，事實上我一直在講的就是匯率還是由市場來決定，中央銀行在外匯市場沒辦法……就是說，因為這牽涉到供需嘛，所以它要貶的時候，中央銀行也不能強迫它要升，中央銀行所能夠做的，它要升的時候也……只是讓它的波動度不要太大，就這樣子而已。 |
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羅委員明才：是，既然…… |
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楊總裁金龍：所以也才會有人說中央銀行阻貶，對，我們有可能阻貶，為什麼？我們要讓他的波動度減緩。但也可能我們會阻升，為什麼？我們要讓新臺幣升幅的波動度不要太大，就是這樣子而已。 |
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羅委員明才：謝謝。從你剛剛所說供需的需求來看，美國總統川普是美國優先，是不是？ |
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楊總裁金龍：是，沒錯。 |
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羅委員明才：我們也可以看到現在台積電準備要投資多少？一千億美元在美國，是不是？ |
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楊總裁金龍：增加。 |
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羅委員明才：表示有一千億會匯到美國去，所以美元的需求就會比較強？ |
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楊總裁金龍：那也不一定。 |
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羅委員明才：不然他投資美國要用什麼投？ |
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楊總裁金龍：他是說四年，要用四年…… |
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羅委員明才：四年的話每一年要投多少？ |
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楊總裁金龍：那是由他來申請…… |
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羅委員明才：三兆臺幣，每年大概是八、九千億…… |
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楊總裁金龍：對，一千億美元除以四，一年就要兩百五十億。我跟委員報告，事實上台積電非常會賺美金，所以他不需要到外匯市場去買美金，他自己賺的美金就足夠讓他到那邊去…… |
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羅委員明才：總裁，你的意思是以後台積電在全世界賺的錢，譬如賺的美金就不匯回臺灣了嗎？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我跟委員報告…… |
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羅委員明才：請問他在美國投資的資本支出與金流是怎麼樣？ |
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楊總裁金龍：金流就是他賺的美金。 |
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羅委員明才：他賺的直接就投美國？ |
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楊總裁金龍：對，他賺的就投美國…… |
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羅委員明才：照你講的，錢不會進來臺灣？ |
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楊總裁金龍：不、不，就台積電來講，每年兩百五十億不算什麼！ |
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羅委員明才：可是對臺灣的一些企業來講，不要說美金，光臺幣一億、兩億對中小企業影響都很大！ |
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楊總裁金龍：對、對，但台積電就是比較特殊！因為台積電一家所賺的美金比那些…… |
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羅委員明才：總裁，台積電每年賺多少美金？ |
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楊總裁金龍：據我了解……好，請外匯局長說明。 |
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羅委員明才：請說。 |
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蔡局長烱民：台積電在去年（2024年）是賺九百億左右，今年預估會到一千億以上的營收。 |
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羅委員明才：局長，等一下，我想你可能比較知道途徑。台積電賺的錢不用匯回臺灣嗎？就在直接在當地投資掉，是不是？ |
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蔡局長烱民：根據我們了解，上次的投資台積電有在美國發債，即有部分的資金由在美國的子公司發美元債券，另外一部分就是每年的營收成長。當然，每年的營收就是剛剛跟委員報告的，像去年是九百億，今年預估會到一千…… |
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羅委員明才：九百億是臺幣還是美金？ |
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蔡局長烱民：美金。 |
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羅委員明才：謝謝。總裁，從數字就可以知道是相當龐大的，台積電跑掉了以後，對臺灣經濟的影響會有多大？ |
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楊總裁金龍：台積電對……我覺得就台積電……講到這裡，我要跟委員報告，我們的主管機關經濟部也一直在強調，基本上80%的業務還是集中在臺灣…… |
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羅委員明才：那是比較低階的。 |
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楊總裁金龍：沒有、沒有，因為台積電…… |
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羅委員明才：高階的會慢慢的、通通移到美國去，不信的話你去聽美國總統川普講的話，他老神在在！ |
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楊總裁金龍：我對產業…… |
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羅委員明才：甚至還講到地緣關係發生變化時…… |
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楊總裁金龍：我不是說我很瞭解…… |
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羅委員明才：他根本沒有在怕的！ |
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楊總裁金龍：但是我們的主管機關一直在強調，台積電的業務重心還是在臺灣，這是第一個。第二個，其主要研發中心還是在臺灣，還是在臺灣。 |
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羅委員明才：總裁我請問你，所有的技術跟人才過去美國，以後美國的員工大概有多少人？ |
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楊總裁金龍：這個我不曉得。 |
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羅委員明才：他要在那邊成立一個研發中心…… |
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楊總裁金龍：不，據我了解，他的研發中心是對產業線…… |
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羅委員明才：為什麼美國總統川普會說這些都是被偷走的？ |
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楊總裁金龍：不是，他只是說…… |
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羅委員明才：是臺灣偷走的？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我個人覺得川普總統這麼說是他的話術，是一個策略，事實上臺灣的半導體、我們的資通訊是美國最需要的，所以美國就半導體這部分盯著臺灣，因為這方面是我們的強項！ |
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羅委員明才：以上的數據其實只是冰山一角！你有沒有算過台積電過去以後，周邊相關上下游大概有幾家會過去？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我總覺得當你在做國際化的時候，你的選擇……當然，這方面我不是專家，我只是說我個人的直覺。因為從國際貿易的觀點來看，他去那邊接近市場、接近他的客戶，我總覺得這個很好。第二個，你要想想看，臺灣的土地不夠，而美國土地大…… |
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羅委員明才：總裁…… |
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楊總裁金龍：所以台積電到美國投資的時候，可以利用到美國的資源。當然，美國的資源有些地方成本會比較高。 |
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羅委員明才：總裁，剛剛本席請教的是，台積電過去以後，周邊的上下游企業及一些資本都已經慢慢過去…… |
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楊總裁金龍：這個也不一定，為什麼？因為…… |
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羅委員明才：就已經有一定的，因為一些做無塵室的通通過去了，還有上下游周邊的很多都會過去。這些如果一起過去的話，有沒有算過對臺灣的影響會有多大？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我想企業是很會算的，我總覺得他們是很靈活的。據我了解，現在說要到美國去的那些，大部分都是在墨西哥，他們在美國也有產線，只是墨西哥比較龐大。現在因為美國要對墨西哥扣稅，所以我們在墨西哥的臺商就想說，在這樣情況之下，尤其在關稅的情況之下，就可能把作業線挪到美國去。 |
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羅委員明才：總裁，你的意思是沒關係就對了？ |
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楊總裁金龍：也不是這樣子！ |
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羅委員明才：也不是？ |
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楊總裁金龍：不過企業國際化這條路還是要走的。 |
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羅委員明才：我們看到台積電一去美國就發現……你有沒有發現一件事？台積電股票漲還是跌？從一千兩百多塊馬上跌破1,000元，市場告訴了總裁什麼？ |
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楊總裁金龍：對啦…… |
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羅委員明才：總裁，告訴你什麼？ |
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楊總裁金龍：委員這樣子講…… |
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羅委員明才：大家的害怕完全展現出來了。這還有一個影響。 |
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楊總裁金龍：對，某種程度，不過我還是…… |
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羅委員明才：請問，台積電是臺灣的護國神山，你知道它的市值有多少？ |
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楊總裁金龍：它的市值，我現在…… |
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羅委員明才：33兆，所以它每漲1點，對臺股的影響有多大？ |
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楊總裁金龍：8點嘛。 |
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羅委員明才：8點嘛，對不對？ |
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楊總裁金龍：對。 |
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羅委員明才：所以你看，臺灣現在股市已經連番下跌，這幾天跌很多，大概從兩萬多。接著，要請教一個…… |
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楊總裁金龍：不過，我跟委員報告，我們的兩萬多，到目前為止，兩萬多還好。 |
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羅委員明才：好。總裁，那台積電跑掉了以後，你覺得臺股2萬點是不是常態？ |
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楊總裁金龍：這個我不敢預測，因為我不是股市專家。 |
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羅委員明才：台積電跑掉了以後，臺股有沒有機會上看3萬點？ |
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楊總裁金龍：這個我不曉得，我不是股市的專家，所以我沒有辦法來預測。 |
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羅委員明才：沒有，這只是一個代表對經濟未來的期待跟感覺，就好像黃金國際的走勢一樣，本席在7年前、6年前、5年前、3年前，還有去年，多次建議央行總裁要不要考慮買進黃金，總裁的回答是…… |
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楊總裁金龍：對，上一次…… |
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羅委員明才：都沒買啊！我建議的時候是每盎斯1,270元的時候，現在黃金每盎斯多少錢？總裁，是3,000元。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我去年在委員會的時候，也有跟委員報告，我也佩服委員，但是我也說，中央銀行的考量是跟一般的不太一樣。 |
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羅委員明才：這個不考量。 |
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虛擬貨幣，你現在態度支不支持？像比特幣。川普總統所講的，五大虛擬貨幣他要作為戰略儲備，現在你是不是也要跟進？ |
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楊總裁金龍：到目前為止，我們是不會啦，不過我們會密切關注…… |
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羅委員明才：你現在支不支持臺灣做虛擬貨幣？ |
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楊總裁金龍：關於戰略儲備這個東西，比特幣和其他的虛擬貨幣，是不是能夠當作戰略儲備，到目前為止，我還是稍微有一點question。 |
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羅委員明才：總裁，希望你多考量，但是你不要違背川普，你不要忤逆川普啊。全世界的潮流在改變的時候，我們還要故步自封嗎？ |
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楊總裁金龍：是啦，是啦…… |
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羅委員明才：我建議你，虛擬貨幣比特幣那時候是一枚6,000塊美金，現在多少了？多少？之前漲到10萬塊美金一枚。 |
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楊總裁金龍：是，是，是。 |
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羅委員明才：我只是提醒央行，世界在變的時候，我們一定要故步自封嗎？世界在改變的時候，我們沒有一點檢討或思考的空間嗎？對不對？ |
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楊總裁金龍：好。謝謝，謝謝委員。謝謝。 |
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羅委員明才：新臺幣的數字貨幣什麼時候會推出？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們還在往前走。 |
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羅委員明才：我們這個會期還在等待。謝謝。 |
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楊總裁金龍：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝羅委員的質詢。 |
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羅委員每次報明牌，央行總裁不聽，大家可以聽，大家可以聽就賺了。 |
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我們休息10分鐘。 |
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休息（11時3分） |
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繼續開會（11時13分） |
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主席：向委員會報告，我們繼續開會。下一位質詢請黃珊珊委員質詢，請。 |
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226 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-3-20-2 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
林德福 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
吳秉叡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
顏寬恒 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
郭國文 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
賴惠員 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
李彥秀 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
鍾佳濱 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
羅明才 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
黃珊珊 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
林思銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
王世堅 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
陳玉珍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
王鴻薇 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
邱志偉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
陳冠廷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
李柏毅 |
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169 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2025-03-13 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1142701 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1142701_00005 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質
詢 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1142701_00004 |