| IVOD_ID |
159032 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159032 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-3-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第2次全院委員會會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第2次全院委員會會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-12T15:03:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-12T15:19:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/068df7098ba6a5ff19e83822208a893842177c27e96a00456e1b84427e832226cb66546e995582555ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:03:41 - 15:19:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第2次全院委員會會議（事由：一、「中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案」覆議案（3月11日）。二、「財政收支劃分法」第八條、第十六條之一及第三十條條文覆議案（3月12日）。） |
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陳委員好左院長我們來揭露一下數字密碼這個數字密碼其實對台南受傷非常的重也就是說在12月20號才化法修法之前如果依照我們台南市的總分配預算我們可以拿到850億 |
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這當中包括統籌分配款一般型補助款特別統籌分配款還有計劃型補助款所以原本還沒修法之前我們跟行政院有很多的計劃在進行當中我們預計可以拿到850億可是在三讀12月20日修法之後我們只能拿到691億 |
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也就是說依照統籌分配款就是修法之後拿了485億但是一般型補助款雖然還是維持193億可是我們看到計劃型補助款就是零所以如果依照這整個預算加起來我們就是整整減少了159億 |
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所以這是我們很害怕很擔憂的地方而且院長這對我們才能是極不公平我們是直轄市可是我們所增列的額度卻是六都的敬培莫作然後如果以全國的征服來說 |
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居然我們是倒數第二倒數第一是誰 高雄市所以是對我們的南部過去縱北傾南是不是我們還要重演過去我們好不容易看到我們南部在小英總統然後現在再加上賴清德總統 |
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我相信我們可以看到南部的光景可是現在要懲罰市現在國民黨民眾黨要懲罰市的對付南部地方 |
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這怎麼是我們能夠接受的呢過去那麼長的時間的重北親南好不容易小英總統在我們當時候延續了阿扁總統小英總統之後我們才感受到南部地方有受到重視 |
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可是難道在去年12月20號我們修法之後 財化法修法之後我們要走到天堂嗎我們南部的建設要走到天堂嗎院長我們很擔心而且這對我們台南人太不公平了院長怎麼辦 |
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所以賴總統一直指示我們要全力的推動均衡台灣把台灣要當作一樣的水平來做各種的建設所以南部四縣市我們現在劃定為大南方的新的核心的新矽谷有大南方計畫嗎大南方新矽谷全力要追推動 |
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但是如果看到現在現行的已經修正過的財化法它確實在某些地方來看下去它有一些這樣的偏頗這個偏頗就是因為它計算的權重用人口營業額來權重就會產生這樣的一個失衡的狀況院長你知道我們當時候一直希望財政部可以修法就是說我們很多在我們台南 |
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可是他的總公司營運單位在北部但是他稅要交到哪裡去 |
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結果每次營業額最多就是在台南你像所有百貨公司不是如此嗎對我們台南怎麼會公平還有很多上市公司上市公司他基本上很多他的工廠是在台南可是他的營運中心在台北 |
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這樣對我們比較公平用靈靠用硬咬咬這個保分對我們極不公平耶就會造成城鄉差距越大各地的差距越大強者越強弱的地方沒有辦法趕上這個速度院長 |
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我要拜託你而且我們所看到的是已經有在這個才化法修法之後就已經出現了所謂成鄉的差距 |
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非常嚴重我們過去很多人都說陳霆飛你當時候擔任民進黨幹部的時候你也支持過要修裁劃法院長我從來沒有反對修裁劃法我反對的是一個不公平的裁劃法沒有對於每一個縣市平等對待的裁劃法 |
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今天如果這個台灣法會讓我台南市減少這麼多的幫助這麼多的支持你想我能夠支持嗎我能夠支持嗎而且院長 |
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當時我們支持要修才化法是因為在小英總統還沒上任之前我們聽到很多的縣市都跟我們說他們的薪水要發不出來這個縣市的薪水發不出來那個縣市的薪水發不出來我們就跟小英總統說總統你要改變你要調整在我們的分配當中要做一個調整院長 |
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在小英總統的時候就已經有做了調整對不對因為當時候的才化法我們也說要來修可是才化法畢竟他知識體大你要這麼短的時間能夠讓每一個縣市都能夠在一個基準點很困難所以小英總統趕快解決發不出薪水的問題所以現在哪一個縣市說發不出薪水 |
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兩點跟委員報告所以在2012年地方財政的短數是589億到2023年剩餘的數目高達648億這是第一個第二個我們在2016年對地方財政的挹注2016年是5549億2016年就是小英總統就任之後2016年那一年是5549億我們今年 |
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2025年我們對地方財政的挹注已經達到1兆零150億所以對地方是一直一直在加強的所以嘛 |
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我們就因為有聽到地方的聲音我們才去做了很多的調整所以在我們當時候聽到很多的縣市說我錢發不出來薪水發不出來還要跟中央借錢當時候是很可憐因為院長你也知道我算是資深我在地方當議員是十年 |
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在中央立委已經17年了所以我們都很清楚在整個過程當中哪一個問題哪一個時間點有不一樣的需求我們都聽到了民進黨執政是負責任的所以 |
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當時我們跟小安總統說 總統 發不出薪水的問題一定要改觀所以就像院長剛剛所報告的我們在整個調整之後 整個地方的財源大大的改變你讓它改變之後 而且我們還做了所謂的一般型的計劃補助 |
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這些補助也就是你只要送計畫我們都可以來協助建設根本不用擔心過去都沒有了甚至在我們小英總統她推了前瞻這個前瞻也是給各縣市我們必須說現在各縣市誰比較多執政是國民黨 |
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是國民黨咧我覺得就是我們民進黨太客氣了我們過去給國民黨執政的縣市很多的預算可是我們從來沒有講我們都沒有敲鑼打鼓我們都認為這地方需要的我們就要給他我們從來沒有敲鑼打鼓讓全國人民生活的水平都提高了 |
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我們的責任是這裡嘛而不是跟你搶工嘛但是我們錯了我們真的錯了就像搬搬有冷氣全部都是中央的經費 |
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我們所有各縣市我們每一個學校的冷氣從改善它的電力因為大家知道很多的學校都是老舊的管線它要裝冷氣是不可能所以我們是從老舊管線開始改善然後再多了所謂的冷氣設備這些是一步一步我們在短短兩年就把它解決了 |
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可是院長你知道嗎在藍營的縣市敲鑼打鼓從來沒有再跟他們說謝謝民進黨政府給我們這一筆預算 沒有在選舉的時候都說你看我幫你們做了斑斑有冷氣你現在可以做民調 |
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現在有多少人知道斑斑有冷氣全部都是中央支應的預算委員今天講了以後會有更多人知道這很重要啊可是你看我們每次做的永遠都只是在做而讓地方不知道原來這一筆錢都是中央所以你把它統整一下 |
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在地方上 每一個縣市我們做了多少他現在都說我們沒做啊都說我們沒做 錢不可以拿去賭我們就把它列舉出來每一個縣市 每一個縣市我們就跟他講從過去小英政府替我們縣市所做的哪些是中央所支應的預算一筆一筆把它列出來 |
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一筆一筆做成圖卡讓各縣市知道這樣才公平啊否則我覺得說對我們中央所有的公務人員非常不公耶大家是做到要死結果公務都沒在他們的心 |
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現在一句話 當在政黨對立的時候一句話就跟你說你中央都沒在做啦你民進黨政府不可以活著啦什麼叫不可以活著啊如果不可以活著怎麼可能各縣市的建設會這麼多從交通 從治水這些如果沒有中央支持的話這兩個都是要大筆預算的光靠地方是不可能的 |
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我從地方議員上來的我非常清楚我們過去光要爭取一個抽水戰難上加難啊可是中央有88治水之後 |
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那時候在阿扁總統然後到了小英總統的時候有前瞻我們的水環境水資源我們把整個治水預算做了無限延伸你知道我們做了多少大家可能都還不知道說原來直轄市還有那個沒有自來水的 |
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在那個很偏僻的地方還沒有自來水耶但是我們在前瞻的部分我們讓他解決了讓他不用喝茶喝水所以我覺得我們做很多但是地方知道的很少因為我們沒有宣傳現在不要忘了是國民黨執政縣市比較多的所以一開始是天安公圍 |
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他去偵查他會說感謝民進黨政府感謝小英總統感謝賴清德總統不會啊還是過去他會說感謝蘇貞昌院長現在感謝卓榮泰院長不會我們現在還有 今年還有系統性治水500多億我們也不會分顏色因為水就是無色的水換在哪裡我們就到哪裡去處理 |
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淹水是大家都淹沒有分顏色啊那為什麼一談到預算的時候國民黨就要分顏色呢南部地方說都民進黨要這層的所以你就把那個錢都退掉這是什麼理由我不能接受所以院長 |
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我們希望這個副議案應該南部的立委不分區域或不分區都應該站出來支持通過這個副議案因為這是我們替人民百姓在顧我們的未來在顧我們的發展在顧我們的建設我們誰都不能置身事外 |
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這個是我們必須要強調的所以院長加油我們南部不能像這個財化法把我們損失的這麼嚴重把我們台南砍得這麼嚴重我們台南人同樣都是在繳稅、納稅好,謝謝陳委員,謝謝卓院長下一位請林思敏委員質詢 |
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陳委員亭妃：（15時3分）謝謝副院長，我們是不是請卓院長？謝謝。 |
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主席：請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰：陳委員好。 |
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陳委員亭妃：卓院長，我們來揭露一下數字密碼。 |
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卓院長榮泰：好。 |
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陳委員亭妃：這個數字密碼其實對臺南受傷非常的重，也就是說，在12月20號財劃法修法之前，如果依照我們臺南市的總分配預算，我們可以拿到850億，這當中包括統籌分配款、一般型補助款、特別統籌分配款，還有計畫型補助款，所以原本還沒修法之前，我們跟行政院有很多的計畫在進行當中，我們預計可以拿到850億，可是在三讀12月20日修法之後，我們只能拿到691億；也就是說，依照統籌分配款，就是修法之後拿了485億，但是一般型補助款雖然還是維持193億，可是我們看到計畫型補助款就是零，所以如果依照這整個預算加起來，我們就是整整減少了159億，所以這是我們很害怕、很擔憂的地方。 |
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而且院長，這對我們臺南市極不公平啊！我們是直轄市，可是我們所增列的額度卻是六都的敬陪末座，如果以全國的增幅來說，居然我們是倒數第二，倒數第一是誰？高雄市。所以過去對南部重北輕南，是不是還要重演過去？我們好不容易看到南部在小英總統，現在再加上賴清德總統，我相信我們可以看到南部的光景，可是現在國民黨、民眾黨要懲罰式的對付南部地方，這怎麼是我們能夠接受的呢？過去那麼長的時間重北輕南，好不容易在當時延續了阿扁總統、小英總統之後，我們才感受到南部地方有受到重視，可是難道在去年12月20號財劃法修法之後，南部的建設要走「倒退嚕」嗎？院長，我們很擔心，而且這對臺南人太不公平了，院長，怎麼辦？ |
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卓院長榮泰：所以賴總統一直指示我們要全力推動均衡臺灣，把臺灣當作一樣的水平來做各種建設，所以南部四縣市我們現在劃定為大南方新矽谷。 |
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陳委員亭妃：有大南方計畫嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：將來大南方新矽谷要全力推動。但是如果看到現行已經修正過的財劃法，它確實在某些地方看來有一些這樣的偏頗，這個偏頗就是因為它計算的權重，用人口、營業額的權重就會產生這樣失衡的狀況。 |
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陳委員亭妃：院長，你知道我們當時一直希望財政部可以修法，就是說我們很多在臺南努力打拚的產業，可是他的總公司、營運單位在北部，但是它稅要交到哪裡去？ |
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卓院長榮泰：對，這個現象一直存在。 |
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陳委員亭妃：交到臺北。結果每次營業額最多就是在臺南，像所有百貨公司不是如此嗎？對我們臺南怎麼會公平，還有很多上市公司的工廠是在臺南，可是它的營運中心在臺北，這樣對我們怎麼會公平？用人口、用營業額這個部分對我們極不公平吶！ |
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卓院長榮泰：就會造成城鄉差距越大，各地的差距越大，強者越強，弱的地方沒有辦法趕上這個速度。 |
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陳委員亭妃：院長，我要拜託你，而且我們所看到的是在財劃法修法之後，就已經出現所謂的城鄉差距非常嚴重。過去很多人都說：陳亭妃，你擔任民進黨幹部的時候，你也支持過要修財劃法。院長，我從來沒有反對修財劃法，我反對的是一個不公平的財劃法。 |
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卓院長榮泰：是的。 |
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陳委員亭妃：沒有對於每一個縣市平等對待的財劃法，今天如果這個財劃法會讓臺南市減少這麼多的幫助、這麼多的支持，你想我能夠支持嗎？而且院長，當時我們支持要修財劃法，是因為在小英總統還沒上任之前，聽到很多縣市都跟我們說他們的薪水會發不出來，這個縣市也說薪水發不出來、那個縣市也說薪水發不出來，我們就跟小英總統說：總統，你要改變，你要調整，在我們的分配當中要做一個調整。院長，在小英總統的時候就已經有做了調整，對不對？當初的財劃法我們也說了要修，可是財劃法畢竟它茲事體大，你要這麼短的時間讓每一個縣市都能夠在一個基準點很困難，所以小英總統趕快解決發不出薪水的問題，現在哪一個縣市說我發不出薪水！ |
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卓院長榮泰：是，兩點跟委員報告，所以在2012年，地方財政短絀是589億，到2023年賸餘的數目高達648億，這是第一個。 |
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第二個，我們在2016年對地方財政的挹注，2016年是5,549億，就是小英總統就任之後、2016年那一年是5,549億；今（2025）年我們對地方財政的挹注已經達到1兆0,151億，所以對地方上是一直一直在加強。 |
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陳委員亭妃：所以嘛！我們就因為有聽到地方的聲音，才去做了很多的調整，我們當時聽到很多的縣市說我錢發不出來、薪水發不出來，還要跟中央借錢耶！當時很可憐，院長你也知道我算資深，我在地方當議員是10年、在中央立委已經17年，所以我們都很清楚，在整個過程當中哪一個問題、哪一個時間點有不一樣的需求，我們都聽到了，民進黨執政是負責任的。所以當時我們跟小英總統說：總統，發不出薪水的問題一定要解決。 |
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就像院長剛剛所報告的，我們整個調整之後，地方的財源大大地改變，讓它改變之後，而且我們還做了所謂一般型的計畫補助，這些補助也就是你只要送計畫，我們都可以協助，建設根本不用擔心，這是過去都沒有的；甚至在我們小英總統推了前瞻計畫，這個前瞻計畫也是給各縣市。我們必須說，現在各縣市誰比較多執政？是國民黨！是國民黨耶！我覺得就是我們民進黨太客氣了，我們過去給國民黨執政的縣市很多預算，可是我們從來沒有講，我們都沒有敲鑼打鼓，我們都認為這是地方需要的我們就要給他，我們從來沒有敲鑼打鼓。 |
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卓院長榮泰：讓全國人民生活的水平都提高了。 |
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陳委員亭妃：我們的責任是這裡。 |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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陳委員亭妃：而不是跟你搶功。但是我們錯了，我們真的錯了！就像班班有冷氣，全部都是中央的經費，所有各縣市每一個學校的冷氣，從改善它的電力，因為大家知道很多學校都是老舊的管線，它要裝冷氣是不可能，所以我們是從老舊管線開始改善，然後再多了所謂的冷氣設備。這些是一步一步，我們在短短兩年就把它解決了。可是院長你知道嗎？在藍營的縣市敲鑼打鼓，他們從來沒有說：謝謝民進黨政府給我們這一筆預算。沒有！在選舉的時候都說：你看，我幫你們做了班班有冷氣。你現在可以做民調，現在有多少人知道班班有冷氣全部都是中央支應的預算？ |
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卓院長榮泰：委員今天講了以後會有更多人知道。 |
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陳委員亭妃：這很重要，可是你看我們每一次做的永遠都只是在做，而地方卻不知道原來這筆錢都是中央的！所以你把它統整一下，看看在地方上每一個縣市我們做了多少，他們現在都說我們沒有做啊！都說我們沒有做，不知道錢花到哪裡去了，所以我們就把它列舉出來，每一個縣市、每一個縣市，我們就跟他們講，從過去小英政府替我們縣市所做的，哪些是中央所支應的預算，一筆、一筆把它列出來，一筆、一筆做成圖卡讓各縣市知道，這樣才公平，否則我覺得對我們中央所有的公務人員非常不公耶！大家做得要死，結果功勞都不在他們身上！ |
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當政黨對立的時候，就用一句話，說中央都沒有在做啦、你們民進黨政府不會持家啦！什麼叫做不會持家？如果不會持家，怎麼可能各縣市的建設會這麼多？從交通、從治水，如果沒有中央支持的話，這兩個都需要大筆預算，光靠地方是不可能的！我從地方議員上來，非常清楚過去光要爭取一個抽水站就難上加難，可是中央有八八治水的特別預算之後，那是在阿扁總統任內，然後到了小英總統的時候有前瞻特別預算的水環境、水資源，我們把整個治水預算做了無限延伸。你知道我們做了多少？大家可能都還不知道原來直轄市還有那個沒有自來水的地方，在那些很偏僻的地方還沒有自來水耶！但是我們在前瞻的部分幫忙解決了，讓他們不用喝地下水！ |
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所以我覺得我們做了很多，但是地方知道的很少，因為我們沒有宣傳。不要忘了，現在是國民黨執政的縣市比較多，所以他們會替我們講話嗎？他們去剪綵，會說感謝民進黨政府、感謝小英總統、感謝賴清德總統嗎？不會啊！還是過去他會說感謝蘇貞昌院長，現在會說感謝卓榮泰院長？不會！ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們現在還有、今年還有系統性治水五百多億…… |
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陳委員亭妃：是啊！ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們也不會分顏色，因為水就是無色的…… |
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陳委員亭妃：沒錯啊！ |
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卓院長榮泰：水患在哪裡，我們就到哪裡去處理。 |
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陳委員亭妃：淹水是大家都淹，沒有分顏色啊！ |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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陳委員亭妃：那為什麼一談到預算的時候，國民黨就要分顏色呢？說南部地方都是民進黨執政，所以就把錢都拿走，這是什麼理由？我不能接受！ |
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所以院長，我們希望南部的立委不分區域或不分區都應該站出來支持通過這個覆議案，因為這是我們替人民百姓在顧我們的未來、在顧我們的發展、在顧我們的建設，我們誰都不能置身事外！這個是我們必須要強調的。 |
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所以院長加油，不能像這個財劃法，讓我們南部損失得這麼嚴重，把我們臺南砍得這麼嚴重，我們臺南人同樣都在繳稅、納稅，我們不應該這樣被對待！ |
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卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員的支持，稍後的投票我們一起努力，謝謝。 |
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陳委員亭妃：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝陳委員、謝謝卓院長。 |
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下一位請林思銘委員詢問。 |
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344 |
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全院委員會-11-3-2 |
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韓國瑜 |
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江啟臣 |
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傅崐萁 |
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許宇甄 |
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吳思瑤 |
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陳培瑜 |
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鍾佳濱 |
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翁曉玲 |
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陳玉珍 |
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黃珊珊 |
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林俊憲 |
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王鴻薇 |
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郭國文 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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馬文君 |
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陳亭妃 |
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林思銘 |
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賴瑞隆 |
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275 |
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2025-03-12 |
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1142501_00012 |
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立法院第11屆第3會期第2次全院委員會會議紀錄 |
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「財政收支劃分法」第八條、第十六條之一及第三十條條文覆議案 |
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1142501_00020 |