| IVOD_ID |
159005 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159005 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-3-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第2次全院委員會會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第2次全院委員會會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-11T09:21:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-11T09:36:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a37056a99b6ff7282ba5c4950be88b6c31125bfab2e25e2503fc800c00acf35073918cfeb3a2548d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳思瑤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:21:03 - 09:36:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第2次全院委員會會議（事由：一、「中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案」覆議案（3月11日）。二、「財政收支劃分法」第八條、第十六條之一及第三十條條文覆議案（3月12日）。） |
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好,謝謝主席,有請卓院長好,請卓院長好,院長好,大家辛苦了 |
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這個會期是一個新的開始我們非常樂見在野黨的委員一直在提民生第一民生優先那麼就非常扣合今天的主題國家是大家的預算是全民的預算就是民生 |
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所以說針對總預算的復議案立法院能不能撥亂反正還是一意孤行立法院是要跟人民站一起還是持續站在人民的對立面害怕罷免的委員們復議案就起義來歸這就是能夠實踐的眼前的機會民生第一下一頁 |
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復議是憲法的行為行政院有權提請復議立法院有責來嚴謹審查而公民更有知情的權利透過預算案的行使重新審視議案所以說當這一屆的立法院違憲亂政成為事實一憲提請復議就是義務 |
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我上一次站在這裡質詢您的時候,您自己說您是復議的院長但是我要說,依憲法賦予的民主救濟原則提請復議是您的憲政責任 |
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所以下一頁我們來看看民進黨執政之後經濟好稅收豐財政佳政府有能力做更多就擴大建設國家擴大照顧人民擴大壯大台灣的行動 |
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所以說114年總預算來到史上新高3兆1325億我們增加的預算新編列的有2806億這珍貴的新增的預算我們將經濟發展的紅利與全民共享 |
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完全是取之於民用之於民譬如說軍工教加薪投注於健康台灣健保財務我們的國民年金的撥補住宅基金的撥補還有國防的軍事投資包括公共建設的挹注當我們表現這麼好才會呈現預算是史上最高能夠支出更多但是危機來了 |
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財政擁擠 no longer財政災難 coming soon為什麼 下一頁當前野黨一直在說你們預算史上最高既然多編那就多刪一點造成了今年的總預算省最亂 刪最多 凍最嚴在我看來 |
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這就是讓我們的公務團隊以後大家少編一點 少做一點事這是在懲罰優等生這是在懲罰勇於任事的政府您同意我的觀點嗎因為國家 國人的辛勤努力我們的稅收增加了有這麼多的稅收增加我們才有能力剛剛委員所指出的2,806億 |
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而且我們今年稅入稅出我們還有209億的稅計剩餘我們沒有全部把它用支出把它編掉表示我們是衡量國家財政合理的來規劃 |
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所以說不要懲罰優等生不要懲罰勇於任事的行政團隊在野黨一直在說你編最多刪一點點不痛刪一點點有什麼關係行政院不要哭窮喊窮我認為這根本上就是在懲罰勇於任事的團隊 |
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我們把稅收經濟發展的紅利透過預算的編列取之於民用之於民所以我要在這裡第一個我要非常強力的來捍衛在野黨不能因為立法院審查的總預算案是史上最高然後來合理化自己可以刪減最多下一頁最近呢罷免風潮全台串聯 |
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我要呼籲在野黨的委員 與其太空太胖啊要用公投來綁罷免 或者是要用倒閣來換罷免最好的機會就是眼前的機會支持復議案是挽回民心最好的一個機會因為這就是實踐民生第一 讓人民看到你們在乎人民的福祉 |
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你要不要再一次對在野黨的委員喊話撥亂反正吧起義來歸吧害怕罷免就應當支持副議案我當然誠心誠意的期待各位委員先進能夠用更理性的態度真正來審視這個整本的中央政府總預算裡面任何不合理的地方我們誠心接受大家對刪減所提出的各項理由但是也應該聽聽各部會 |
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甚至於其他各院包括總統府對編列預算當時的想法跟未來執行的計畫只要把國家的預算放到 |
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終於國家認真執行的機關跟人預算不應該出問題我們就是這樣子對自己負責也對歷史負責對人民負責我們都要來建立責任政治喔下一頁這一頁的PPT是我過去在幾次復議案如果復議案有機會上台詢答的話這是您當時第一次提醒復議的時候說的話 |
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再次審視法案透過民主對話捍衛憲政的程序因為復議就是一個review、rediscussion的過程 |
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沒有討論不是民主尤其總預算案國會繼續的拒絕討論或是壓縮討論這對社會公民之的權利是不公平的所以我非常遺憾作為執政黨的幹部我們在朝野協商柯總召一直在呼籲 |
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總預算加財劃法兩案綁在一起就是前所未有更何況財劃法被當作人質肉票綁在立法院一個多月才送出然後跟著總預算綁在一起然後呢兩案綁在一起來處理復議案的詢答一案只有一天 |
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不夠不夠不夠這個不夠不只是台積電的國際擴廠的計畫這也是國會的民主討論不夠不夠不夠民進黨的要求是一案兩天一案至少有24位立委可以有360分鐘6個小時好好來對話好好來直求對決當在野黨一直說行政院造謠的時候 |
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就站上諮詢台上 讓真理越辯越明 看看是誰胡扯 看看是誰造謠但是總預算案 才化法 兩案綁一案總預算案的時候 委員會的審查完全被推翻 委員會中心主義被踐踏院會表決的時候 只有一檔五分鐘 三檔十五分鐘討論總預算案 |
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更是三分鐘送出委員會院會還舉手表決零討論難道這樣子的沒有討論要持續成為新國會的常態嗎為什麼民進黨團爭取我們至少一案兩天柯總裁會朝野協商說破嘴在野黨依舊傲慢的無視民意民進黨只有六個委員可以站在這裡討論我們珍貴的國家總預算民主是 |
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少數服從多數民主更是多數尊重少數附議案的行使前少數黨委員發聲的權利被噤聲被剝奪民進黨只有六位委員你知道我們多少黨團的委員都爭取今天能夠上台來表達意見要挽救總預算沒有討論不是民主再一次成為這一屆藍白當家立法院的常態我要譴責 |
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下一頁您提出12個致愛難行的總預算要提醒復一的理由我歸納四個違憲第一個違憲預算遭上史上刪減最高是前三年均值的六倍以上還有宣讀數跟實質的刪減數兜不起來我這裡秀出來的是正規版跟今年的開天窗版 |
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從來沒有任何一年的總預算審查之後立法院沒有一個精確的刪減數而且整段文字充斥著不確定的概念敘述甚至因為歲初沒有確定融資裁員的調度也沒有辦法有具體數字這就是違反憲法所規範的權利 |
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分立以及責任政治的歸屬我更要說立法委員我們對於民意負責啊憲法63條立法院有議決預算之權我們就要負責任的審議預算而不是送出一個刪減數是多少到現在沒人知道而且刪的是史上最高審查最亂就是第一個違憲第二個違憲 |
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939億的通案刪除居然要求行政院自行刪減636億他又一次的違憲也違反預算法49條剛剛您的報告都提到當立法院自己沒有辦法去踐行他自己的憲法忠誠義務還來強害其他憲政機關的權力核心領域的行使這是第二個違憲第三個違憲 |
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凍結數13811 戰略有沒有人知道具體數字是多少但它已經是前三年凍結數的九倍 更設下了史上最難的解凍條件非常多的財經跟法學的學者 譬如說蔡茂穎教授他說凍結預算是逾越憲法賦予立法院的預算審議權 |
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我們的黃士興教授他說立法院以動帶刪就是立法院侵犯行政權徐仁輝教授說凍結預算就形同於毀損預算的契約都違反了大法官的解釋264號391號520號 |
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更何況您剛剛報告的時候有說過去幾年來解凍都是多數八成以上八成五以上甚至九成以上都是在年底十一月十二月才能解凍這一次還要提到院會來解凍您對於未來的解凍是不是相對的悲觀我覺得這樣的一個解凍的程序我們覺得很難達到 |
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但是如果有必要我們也會準備好但現在我們所準備的還是盡快把復一案能夠通過我們重新來審視你眼前的藥物復一案要通過第四個違憲特定的機關被惡意的報復而且不只對行政院還包括其他的憲法機關 |
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監察院山東合併96.7%行政院你們院本部83.6%總統府更高達七成四這都是惡意的過度集中他鎖定了甚至在沒有審預算之前在野黨的委員就對外放話 |
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762.033 |
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我要刪減總統府我要刪減司法院我要刪減監察院全部都應驗了這又違反憲法相關的權利義務分立民主原則所以這四大違憲下頁連總統府的夜間照明獲得2020年的台灣光環境大獎然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
763.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
792.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
被迫夜間熄燈設計界文化界這段時間的串聯說一個即將開啟的暗黑時代人民還要忍耐嗎監察院連衛生紙都要自備憲法機關之間是平等相違的但是立法院再一次去踐行了立院最大我就是比你大我砍你我殺你我讓你沒有辦法行使你的憲法忠誠義務這是我歸納的四大違憲所以下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
793.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
820.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
院長我們都期待復議案能夠成功我們都期待預算就是民生立法院好好的來讓人民願意相信一次但我們相對悲觀那如果依據這麼多違憲的事實當違憲亂政成為慣例一憲提起四憲就是義務後續的下一關 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
822.791 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
834.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
您視線應當是行政院也應當啟動的準備吧跟委員報告剛才我在向大院報告的時候我發現很多在黨委員坐在位置上面也都有頻頻點頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
837.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
853.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
對內容他們也先有所指我期待這個點頭代表他們對自己在這裡行使職務上的一個態度我也裝著希望在明天的投票當中能夠真的有些委員支持這個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
853.979 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
872.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
支持中央政府從事者的復譽不是讓他全本照科通過了照本通過不是 是重新審視合理的三件還是有的但就算沒有如此的話我們依照憲法合法合憲的程序都是行政院的義務因為行政是唯一有提起復譽者機關的權利我們也會有其他的憲政救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
891.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
所以我們還是要做好事先的準備但是我非常期待您剛剛說的在台下頻頻點頭的在野黨委員能夠把今天的點頭化為明天投票的行動支持習政院的復議案我時間快到了來下一頁我最後要講一個這一次的藍白惡意的針對特定機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
894.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
911.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
他們鎖定的NCC、述發部、陸委會、外交部跟文化部每一箭每一刀都砍向台灣向世界發聲的權利他們的政治議謀就是配合中共讓政府被消音台灣在國際社會被消失下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
912.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
926.626 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
包括他們投案刪減的國際旅費媒體宣傳費就是要弱化台灣配合中國將台灣噤聲跟鎖國這是一個本席非常在乎台灣在世界的發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
944.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
945.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
好 謝謝吳衛生 |