iVOD / 158974

Field Value
IVOD_ID 158974
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158974
日期 2025-02-25
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-3-2
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第3會期第2次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 3
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第3會期第2次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2025-02-25T16:32:35+08:00
結束時間 2025-02-25T17:02:54+08:00
影片長度 00:30:19
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 羅智強
委員發言時間 16:32:35 - 17:02:54
會議時間 2025-02-25T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第3會期第2次會議(事由:行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 醫護人員身心俱疲急診醫學會罕見求救急診擁捨到前所未有的程度問題持續引發急診醫護人員大規模離職對病人安全醫療品質會造成嚴重的影響當醫護人員陷在這一個就是病人生死交關的關頭之上一位急診醫師
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 在社群平台上請衛福部次長林靜儀來發揮執行力影響力改善擁捨的問題他竟然這樣回答他說你的小腦袋裡政府按一下按鈕事情就會完全改變了嗎你剛說是私言我想請教您人命關天官員這種回應請問林靜儀道歉了沒有他有對外表示他會檢討他的言行
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 檢討啊也應該向聽到的所有的國人表示他心中的歉意這也是應該非常好請他公開道歉院長已經指示林靜儀公開道歉這是最起碼的但是你知道他的檢討是什麼嗎我再講下一句名言不該對不明身份來譏諷的回文有反應你知道這句話誰講的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 我不該對不明身份來譏諷的文有反應這就是林靜怡的檢討啊她說要檢討之後馬上發文就說哎呀 我檢討過了妳要檢討她覺得她錯在哪裡她錯在哪裡她怪那個急診醫師說她身份不明來嘲諷她她不該回她院長妳覺得她真的在檢討嗎她說檢討之後就發這個文耶
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 我是認為 如果是我是絕對不要這樣回答啦我也覺得我們的政務人員一定要心中有國家人民要謹言慎行我告訴你 他就是今天內閣最糟糕的一個飯死我們還是會希望他用他的專業來服務國內我很擔心啊 你到底有沒有辦法約束他啊我對我的閣員
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 會互相的檢討互相的鼓勵互相的提醒這個我會做到你用愛的鼓勵跟檢討那我告訴你啊他是第一次耍這個傲慢官威嗎是嗎你知道是嗎來我再講下一句站著說話不腰疼有心人不要再操作恐懼你知道這句名言誰講的這兩句名言誰講的又是你的內閣林靜儀啊
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 去年國內生理實驗水短缺醫院叫不到貨林靜儀批評站出來提出問題的醫護你們站著說話不腰疼有心的不要再操作恐懼他也檢討阿紗亞我要開始換我的腦袋請問他腦袋換了沒有院長他腦袋換了沒有
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 應該調整他上去年已經一次了他說要換腦袋,腦袋換了沒有他大腦袋換成小腦袋了去嘲笑第一線救死扶傷向林靜怡求救的急診醫師我先跟院長送你一句話
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 豬門酒肉臭急診病死骨刺掌小腦袋政府大官威我這句話送給林靜怡我也送給部長我也請院長好好想一想你們都深深自我檢討謝謝喔不是要只是自我檢討而已好好約束這樣的官員也請部長一起來努力好的 是的第一個先就要趕快發文道歉不要什麼深自檢討檢討了半天還在檢討別人部長可以吧是
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 您知道嗎?院長,國際時事可是你還是...戰爭之後,他的有感而發吧?呃,院長,您掌握國家大事齁,這個是最新的一個狀況,尊斯基現在面對最大的問題是什麼?俄羅斯以外啦,正面跟俄羅斯作戰美國總統對他有一些談判上的要求非常好他會發這個悲嘆是因為,烏俄戰爭即將滿三年
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 面對俄羅斯的入侵哲恩斯基在戰場的正面是面對俄羅斯如狼似虎的攻勢但是在戰場的後方他遇到另外一個麻煩那就是美國總統川普要求烏克蘭要簽署價值高達五千億美元天價的所謂哲恩斯基口中要十代烏克蘭人才能償還的礦產協議這個你應該知道吧
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 這個新聞你應該知道吧目前是全球最關切的如果總統是國家的司機那你覺得責任司機該接受川普這個天價協議嗎應該站在自己國家最有利的角度維護國家的主權跟尊嚴跟安全才能跟國外做任何談判所以
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 臺灣我們中華民國臺灣也是一樣我們先要把自己強化起來像今天因為我們有高科技的領先地位我們有一點點談判的空間我們要正視這個空間盡量挽回這是我後面要問你你也知道但是我覺得更重要的問題先不講該不該你覺得責任司機能拒絕川普這個天價協議嗎他有能力拒絕嗎我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 哲倫斯基總統要衡量他自己現在國內戰爭的情況以他自己在戰爭當中你講的是該不該的層次我問的是能不能的層次我很難替他做當然啦你不是烏克蘭總統你沒辦法替他回答不管烏克蘭的國家司機哲倫斯基總統答應還是不答應川普的天價協議
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 歷經三年血戰的烏克蘭面臨了對俄割地對美賠款的一個危機這才是讓人覺得非常惋惜跟同情我覺得對整個世界處境我們是感到非常的同情可是我下一個要問你中華民國有一個司機掌握國家的司機是誰
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 如果你這樣形容的話應該是總統帶著大家一起往前進非常好嘛賴清德總統拍廣告片也認為他是司機嘛對不對接蔡英文總統司機的棒子嘛所以是清德司機嘛對不對那我要問問坐在清德司機車上協助駕駛的您你覺得如果川普也對台灣開出天價你覺得清德司機該不該接受川普開的天價如果啦我們就應該我剛剛說過的
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 站在對國家界最有利的角度去維護國家的主權安全跟尊嚴那我們現在有我們高科技做我們的基礎我們應該用這個跟世界來說我們願意跟大家成為可以信賴的夥伴所以我們倡議全球的民主公義院從半導體人工智慧這樣開始好那我就跟你一個一個來看您這個立場怎麼面對川普開的天價川普其實對台灣已經開出了三個天價院長知道吧
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 三個天價比如說的是他已經對台灣直接有開出三個天價包括國防在內的嘛對國防第一個嘛他要學GDV多少不會不知道吧要求是10吧10%嘛對不對第二個天價他不只針對台灣他對很多國家都這樣要求對啦沒關係啦他對台灣要求其實比較多你如果仔細去看10%他對台灣要的是最多的沒錯吧
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 我的國際情勢掌握沒錯吧他對北約也要求對哪裡也要求但是對台灣他特別期待喔他期待是10%喔沒錯吧前幾天總統在國安高層會議上說我們要3%他已經列為當時美國已經列為歐洲的重大訊息了表示他也應該知道這個訊息後面再跟你就教這件事情第二個添加什麼
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 第三個天價這不是針對台灣啦他在全球都要解決他們的貿易逆差問題嘛三個天價台灣2024年GDP是多少你說國內生產毛額嗎對 去年25.4兆台幣那按照川普的要求到10%是新台幣多少
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 通過的這是立法院宣讀的數字那真的核算出來的數字我們還沒有辦法加總三兆嘛左右啦對不對但是通過的如果說剛剛宣讀的數字之外我已經報告過我們有2806億是新增的項目沒關係啦扣掉這些的話預算我跟你講預算我後面還要跟你講我現在講國際情勢啦國防預算是10%有時候2.5兆你剛剛已經講現在是3兆那你知道是什麼概念嗎
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 占多少你知道嗎如果是真的到那個10%的話GDP10%超過百分之 將近百分之85欸對不對根本不可能的事嘛是不是天價
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 對啊,那你覺得我們能接受嗎?不可能嘛根據台灣現在的財政結構,跟我們財政規劃所以以總統講的,我們朝GDP3%來做規劃這我後面跟你講啊第一個,所以你也不認為我們有辦法接受川普開這個第一個天價所以我們要有合理的談判當然要有合理的談判,是政府希望你去努力的那我告訴你,慘在哪裡?
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 我們現在政府通過你自己都講是有史以來最高的預算三兆比馬政府高出多少你知道吧比馬政府平均的預算高出多少這好像不到兩兆是不是對平均高出一兆耶那你知道今天的院長你拿到三兆預算比馬政府要開多出一兆而且是歷史新高請問現在我們的政府商量現在在幹什麼2016年我們的GDP只有16.7兆
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 2024年我們有25.4%院長 我要跟你講你現在是成長50%你跟我講GDP在8年內成長50%嗎2016年我們是16.7兆我要問你的是什麼 錢的問題嘛夠不夠的問題如果扣掉那個2.5兆你就還夠用嗎夠不夠用扣掉那個2.5兆還夠不夠用2.5兆如果這張川普講的GDP要10% 2.5兆還夠不夠用
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 當然不夠用嘛我為什麼不夠用你三兆你都不夠用了你都一直喊窮啊
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 更何況2.5兆啊我現在問幾個問題啊我先跟你講現在政府整個在喊窮喊到什麼程度沒關係啊院長我南北在這個地方我有幾個心中強大的疑惑啦我現在心中有一個強大的疑惑啦歷史新高的預算你知道政府喊窮喊到什麼程度
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 外面網路 沿著政府喊窮開始文章跟謠言做到什麼時候我也沒看到我們今天政府出來辟謠啊我來講幾件事 第一個我們這個最近在棒球賽嘛 對不對第一場對西班牙的時候不幸落敗嘛 對不對沒錯吧 今天晚上我們希望能夠把扳回一城一定要贏可是你知道嗎
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 第一場對西班牙輸了你知道一堆網路上的謠言就出來說輸西班牙是因為藍白三預算院長輸西班牙是因為藍白三預算嗎這個政府沒有辦法為一億的這個
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 政府遇到...越南這不公平啊以前政府啊你在的時候對不對民進黨執政的時候打假打謠言打得多兇啊還查水表社會秩序無法搬出來現在跟我講政府沒辦法因應所有的謠言像我們潑了一些對...那沒關係啊你沒有辦法因應所有的第一個你要告訴我這是不謠言在這裡跟我講
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 那沒有經過查證的一些事情是嘛 就是謠言啊那還是你要認證說今天棒球打輸是藍白三預算是嗎我直接問你們體育署今年比去年多多少錢二十億嘛我再問你第二件事棒球預算我們在立法院有三一毛錢嗎 有沒有三
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 那只有通三的部分 三的業務費吧通三的部分棒球的經費 運動發展基金以前你們講自己宣稱是從運動發展基金出來的啊委員今天問我說棒球打輸是不是三預算我會跟你說不是謝謝三預算的結果 三的業務費會讓我們很多的業務我告訴你 你要講別的東西我告訴你 今天講也講不清啦你現在倒數跟我講說這個影響這個影響但是展現國民面前就是你剛剛講的啊
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 預算有史 歷史新高啊我是今天很不想在這邊跟你說啊蔡英文就是怎麼樣 蔡英文難道蔡英文今天這個她的兩兆八千億 兩兆九千億政府已經倒了嗎馬英九的一兆八千億 一兆九千億就倒了嗎我們有兩千八百零六億的新增計畫有那麼多項早上我已經報告過了我還沒跟你講我現在後面還講到川普欸你要不要學學川普啊
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 川普政府消費部光第一波刪了多少預算 請問自己刪也不用等到國會刪喔如果刪得有道理 當然大家會支持對啊 道理你定嘛如果刪到讓整個政府自在難行如果刪到我們讓我們整個政府自在難行我們當然要據理力爭打院長 我告訴你啊這邊我跟你講
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 你說你的我說我的 反正也捨不清啦我跟你講 鐵的事實很簡單鐵的事實就是政府今年的預算是最高的我再問第二個問題 我跟你講你今天耗到整場結束 我知道我也不能說服你我沒有打算跟爸爸說服你來第二個喔 院長第二個啦 這個放到後面啦反正你今天 你們行政機器這麼大你們論點我也聽了一百遍了
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 但是我關心的東西可以讓我問吧可不可以 院長你要把我們答覆當作你的想像的一部分再來引申你的問題沒有 請問棒球打輸是藍白三預算你說不是的 我有想像什麼所以2800億的新增預算要加在預算裡面院長 你三兆預算你跟我講新增計畫實際上今天扣掉台電的1000億議法院整個三個半天三1000億啦
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 你跟我講兩千億多億100億除了財力的新增計劃你倉收稅收的五千億你現在跟我講不夠用那我跟你講算不算會認識院長已經跟你說了韓院長跟你說不夠用怎麼辦真的不夠用怎麼辦
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 追加預算嘛請問能不能追加預算你能不能追加預算追加預算要符合預算法79條的規定你先把追加預算拿出來看看你講的那些新增計畫你沒辦法做的
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 你一件事都不做 你在那邊說做不了請看下一個問題高雄連續殺人分屍案要修正卻沒有辦法開花劃分池是因為藍白塞預算嗎
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 是不是沒有聽清楚高雄連續殺人分屍案要修正沒有錢開挖劃分池是安排篩預算嗎 院長我不懂這個邏輯非常好 我也不懂啦我當過台北市議員 你也當過台北市議員像這種刑案修正如果真的要開挖劃分池是誰要出這個經費的我們在台北市議會都不會這樣算預算
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 我問你這個經費是誰的經費你跟我講你算不算這個預算你沒當過台北市議員嗎你不要逃避問題嘛我也想要問你這個經費是誰的經費我真的不知道你說的是哪一筆經費可見我當台北市議員比你認真
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 這地方的經費啊高雄市政府都承認了你現在在這邊你跟我講我問過台北市政府重大刑案開挖蒐證是地方的經費來沒關係院長 也許你高市議員久了你不記得沒有關係啦我跟你講齁重點是根本沒有劃分詞你知道吧那個地方根本沒有劃分詞非常好那你再認證第二個謠言來問你齁
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 過年期間我的臉書被幾千篇留言洗版說政府現在沒有辦法做長照請問政府現在沒有辦法做長照了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 政府長照還是在做啊非常好啊但是通刪業務費之後有一些業務現在不關的業務會刪了長照哪些不發了不做了不補助了長照本身的預算沒有刪那謝謝你嘛通刪業務費之後就會影響沒有我跟你講你自己都跟我講長照沒有刪業務費通刪你可以自己做調整如果真的不夠我告訴你我說過了今天院長都已經開一條路給你最佳預算很多業務費上面刪了以後說不能留用
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 院長 院長 院長我告訴你 業務費有些刪 但是也沒有刪全部啊有刪全部嗎有的被刪全部啊有刪 有刪 你宣傳被刪全部啦業務費有的刪全部啊長照給你業務費刪光啊衛福部 衛福部請問今年跟去年的運算是差多少來 部長上來衛福部的運算今年跟去年是差多少今年比去年少嗎
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 委員說外交部的國外旅會被刪你跟我講外交部我現在跟你講衛福部啊我當然跟你講有問題的地方啊拜託我今天質詢的是長照我質詢衛福部你要跟我講別的地方在別的時間講這樣我們就避重就輕怎麼叫避重就輕外交部被刪國外旅會我告訴你今天一下一下你要跟我去講的話我們一下一下講但我今天問的是衛福部我問衛福部你跟我答外交部
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 請部長回答部長我問你啊因為長照的需求更多所以我們的確有依照長照的需求增加非常謝謝你嘛你看人家部長比你誠懇多了回答得清清楚楚謝謝你今天幫我澄清三個謠言啦龍部長我只跟你講一件事情啦剛剛我們質詢東西你在旁邊聽喔拜託你啦
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 像這些天價的問題跟川普政府好好溝通我在想請教你這是為什麼我今天要開始把這幾個所謂的你們這邊是一時最高三兆預算你自己講的然後一天到晚跟我喊窮如果這樣錢都不夠的話我告訴你啊
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 你接下去面對川普,真的不財你的責任就很重大我以為你這樣的邏輯也不大正確我邏輯不正確,你邏輯最正確不是,我們可以互相討論我跟你講最高的預算是增加很多新增項目你不能視而不見這件事實啊
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 院長你增加新增相互我就跟你講你說增加兩千億你增加兩千億你把列出來給立法院看嘛我把早上就列啦沒有你列出來就追加預算給大家看嘛如果扣掉這個兩千億就可以去立法院你追加預算給大家看嘛今天院長都跟你講說你又跟我套套循環更何況今天政府難道完全沒有尊潔的空間你跟我講政府沒有尊潔的空間有 這個是我一項的原則
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 我對自己的要求,對公務系統的要求,我們都希望能夠尊潔自己院長,我想請教你下一個問題國防預算齁,今年是多少錢?六千四百億嘛,對不對?佔GDP多少?2.5啦差不多啦,將近2.5啦那代總統說要增加多少?
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 我們是希望能夠達到GDP的3%那算起來大概是多少還差多少是不是對還差大概一千一千兩百億左右嘛兩三百億左右對不對所以要到七千六百億的規模嘛財政資源有限當然國防預算要適度的增加我們有反對啦是 謝謝可是喔川普要的是10%不是3%啦所以真的還要再好好努力去跟他溝通可以嗎那我們會站在國家的立場好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 那我要告訴你下一個問題我想請就教院長川普同意3%了嗎所以我們要在國家最有利的利益所以還沒有嘛還沒開始跟川普政府溝通嘛那這個溝通也一直會持續的進行我要提醒院長今天你去看一看川普對烏克蘭開的是5000億美元的礦產協議嘛換算台幣多少16兆
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 他如果可以對烏克蘭開16兆我真的覺得我們中華民國政府行政院真的是要溝通的努力要非常加把勁會努力一定努力對啊他如果今天跟你講說3%他不同意他要5%怎麼辦或是說今天跟你講3%可以明年5%後年10%怎麼辦
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 即便說要3% 5%他可能比起創產協議的16兆他還都覺得說今天對台灣客氣啦因為烏克蘭他要16兆啊這些我跟你講當然我知道這邊你沒辦法給我回答啦因為這是你要溝通的過程嘛對不對你已經講原則了嘛那我只要把情勢的一個艱難要告訴你這個情勢的艱難希望我們政府把他放在心上第二個
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 台灣偷走美國的晶片產業將對台灣進口的半導體產品徵收關稅以促使製造業回流美國這句話誰說的
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 你不應該不知道這句話是川普總統說的但台灣並沒有偷走美國的晶片產業我們是經由雙方的合作我們用代工的方式用先進的製程讓全球的科技都往上發展這個是台灣對現在世界上在先進產業上這一段話我告訴你喔川普不只說了一次他說了好幾次但你今天也是鄭重告訴川普說台灣沒有偷走晶片產業我們是經由合作
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 代工的合作跟共同的研發我們現在帶領全球的產業這個立場我支持你謝謝站的堅定一點但是呢要對台灣的進口的晶片產品徵收百分之百的關稅這句話誰說的都是來自川普總統也是川普嘛對不對 關稅政策 對好那我想請問你支持嗎你認為你現在努力的是不希望對台灣有任何不公平的關稅好
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 如果全世界的關稅一致的話,那台灣的競爭力...所以你也認為不合理嗎?只要是不公平就我們...距離力爭100%一定不合理的啊,有合理嗎?距離力爭,但是...沒有沒有,倒帶一下100%關稅一定不合理嘛,對不對?報告委員,這不一定啦喔!不一定啦!只不過不一定
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 因為他會講100%是為了滿足他國內的競爭力能夠跟國內的競爭力他可能國內的競爭力不足所以他要課100%的稅然後來做一個平衡所以他才會課100%如果他說50%可以了他就課50%他主要是保護他國內的廠商請問你是哪一國的
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 你哪一國的他在解釋他的政策不是為他講話我當然知道你在解釋川普的政策啊我是問對中華民國合不合理你跟我講對川普合理我是美國公民會投票給川普啊不是
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 那對中華民國合不合理?對中華民國不一定不合理哎呀 原來好沒關係 那我謝謝你啦可以啦 可以啦來 部長 部長你在這邊直接呼應川普對我們晶片苛徵100%的關稅你認為沒有不合理好啦 沒關係啦 我跟你講100%的關稅你是問100%的關稅我問到我要你的答案了我告訴你 部長 院長 院長這個是合理的部長先來 我要跟院長講話
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 院長你應該知道剛剛講這句話接下來的後座禮是什麼我們都是在極力爭取你認同嗎剛剛部長講的不要對台灣採取不公平的關稅待遇剛剛就在部長講的嘛你認不認同嘛他是在解釋對方的政策他剛剛講說沒有不合理啊他是解釋對方的政策院長
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 的問題非常明確剛剛郭部長講美國對台灣金票科100%的關稅他認為沒有不合理你認同嗎?你不是講這一句話喔部長請你不要再講話了我正問的是院長部長拜託
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 不然我可能要請你先下去了喔 不好意思喔我現在跟院長回答問題喔我剛剛已經前半段說不是美國立場我想後半段還說對中華民國來說也沒有不合理你看看 我覺得院長的態度是對的啦
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 講得多保守啊你怎麼可以在這邊輕斷的就說美國剋台灣一百八關稅是合理的我跟你講我真的是非常非常擔心什麼叫錯誤啊我講的哪一句話不是引述你講的啊你自己講的啊來 院長
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 我還再問你一次沒關係我本來想跳過這一題我也沒時間了我這邊聽到的是部長在解釋美國的內部的立場沒關係啊院長你非常清楚要倒帶三百遍是一樣第一段我嚇到是說你跟我講是他是在解釋美國說解釋美國我今天要你是解釋中華民國立場
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 我叫他解釋中華民國立場他還加重於是再強調一次以中華民國的立場就算可以擺發關稅也沒有不合理啊我已經強調跟重申我們自己國家的立場我們不需要有不公平的待遇院長我真的是問不下去我直接告訴你啦如果是這樣的態度啊說真的我為我們的台積電非常的擔心最後啊我跟院長講一個比較感性的事情
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 司法應該有人情柯文哲的父親往生我覺得真的院長跟法務部能夠讓他見到父親幫他送個行雖然法務部是說跟家屬之間的溝通聯繫在進行中但我希望是有這個態度
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 有些事情好方便讓人家成全孝道我不知道部長可不可以啊我有跟部長講過要尊重家屬的意義對嘛好不好可以啦好那謝謝啊因為這個跟政治無關人情謝謝你謝謝委員提醒