| IVOD_ID |
158952 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158952 |
| 日期 |
2025-02-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
全院委員會-11-3-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
全院委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第1次全院委員會會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-02-11T10:54:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-02-11T10:59:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
沈伯洋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:54:09 - 10:59:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-02-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第1次全院委員會會議（事由：審查「公職人員選舉罷免法」第七十六條、第七十九條、第八十條及第八十三條條文覆議案。） |
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關於這個選罷法的問題剛剛前面委員其實已經講了很多但我還是要再次強調它有三個核心的問題第一個是它的目的再來是它的手段以及這一次修法的品質我先來講一下第一這個修法的目的它是一個純粹的報復行為 |
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國民黨跟民眾黨的修法邏輯充滿了政治算計跟報復的心理我們看過很多次了從之前因為自己質詢的品質差勁結果呢報復性的訂了一個東西叫做反質詢反質詢後來被憲法法庭說是違憲馬上報復性的再用憲法訴訟法想要廢掉憲法法庭然後現在面對人民發動罷免不適任立委的行動 |
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你們的反應不是檢討是立刻提高罷免的門檻想要堵住民主的這條路 |
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而更可怕的事情是這個法案最早的版本是在什麼時候甚至是在國會衝突以前就已經提出來了這說明了什麼這可能不是一個臨時起義你們對人民的反擊可能是你們心知肚明知道有問題提前設了這道防線要讓人民沒有辦法行使罷免權 |
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這種立法目的是不正當的是不民主的是濫權的自保是對人民權利的掠奪第二個是你們的手段是赤裸裸的暴力跟傲慢國會多數的確可以通過法律但是民主的精神也包含要尊重少數不是蠻橫的壓制跟霸凌近乎二讀直接不讓我們發言完全剝奪立法院應該有的審議程序 |
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協商的時候我們提出這一些法律的漏洞以及目的上的問題國民黨跟民眾黨的反應是什麼是直接離席拒絕討論現在當家的律法院不就是國民黨跟民眾黨嗎為什麼要用離席的方式去阻止討論這樣連最基本的程序正義都不遵守的狀況之下怎麼要讓人民幸福 |
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然而第三個我要提到最可怕的事情是修法的品質如此的粗糙剛剛很多人提到死了連署跟冒名連署的事情請問死了連署要怎麼看戶政機關直接對身份證字號就可以看啊難道要跟花蓮縣政府一樣去敲別人的門才有辦法看嗎如果是冒名的話本來就有查詢單制度啊 |
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所以如果真的要再加高這個所謂查核的方式當時我們提出的最多最多也就是多填一個換證日期啊結果剛剛張祺凱委員還在這邊造謠說我們本來提的是跟這個原來一樣的版本 |
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所以這些都是完全跟立法目的完全沒有辦法合制的一個行為更不要講說今天行政院雖然沒有附議這個部分98條之二的偽造文書我們從協商的時候一直到二讀三讀的時候一直告訴你們文字有錯誤 |
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偽造本身就包含未經同意這四個字根本就不用放上去結果你們連修改這四個字都不肯就可以知道這個修法的品質完全無法確保更不要講說剛剛翁小林委員才在這邊提到說因為有這個條文以後冒名有刑責請問這個偽造文書要怎麼競合請問為什麼多了一保案罰金現在你們有辦法馬上回答嗎 |
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就是因為這樣的立法品質我們才可以知道都是一個草率立法胡亂拼湊條文的行為現在一堆公民團體站出來批評你們的目的批評你們的手段的暴力批評你們立法品質的粗糙結果你們不是回應問題你們是轉移焦點開始污蔑說公民團體是側翼 |
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說真正的公民團體明明關心的是民主的制度他不是關心政黨結果你們說要以霸制霸但罷免民進黨的立委甚至議員請問立法院內部的事項到底跟議員什麼事這完全就是一個赤裸的政治鬥爭毫無邏輯的報復行為不是嗎 |
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所以國民黨跟民政黨的立委們你們不要以為這樣的行為能夠嚇阻人民你們越是如此反而越讓人民看清楚你們的真面目 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
284.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
308.345 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
過去一年已經給了國民黨跟民眾黨那麼多的機會希望你們踩煞車結果你們都無視你們原本應該告訴人民說你們做錯了你們原本應該告訴人民說我們不應該毀壞這個國家跟我們的民主制度你們原本應該告訴人民說你們要回到民主的正軌不要一錯再錯甚至引狼入室去訂這些禍國殃民的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
309.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
313.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
歷史會記住這一刻會記住去年的每一刻我們不會讓你們毀壞這個國家 |