| IVOD_ID |
158884 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158884 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-19,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-15T10:27:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-15T10:35:57+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/427ddbb1724b1d1ac2294cc784708cf75a45ebd5c2e753184204766f4a2623bd34c366ed1daa38bd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:27:43 - 10:35:57 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員葛如鈞等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員林岱樺等18人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員楊瓊瓔等29人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
五、本院委員何欣純等23人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
六、本院委員邱議瑩等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
七、本院委員蔡其昌等18人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
八、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
九、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
十、本院委員邱志偉等20人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
十一、本院委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
(第一案及第十一案如未接獲議事處來函，則不予審查)
【1月15日及16日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 楊群發言 邀請次長 |
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市長好我們針對於今天產業創新條例裡頭因為本席非常非常的關心我們的產業所以因此這個租稅優惠措施是為了要優化我們整個產業結構達到智慧升級轉型並且鼓勵多元性的創新應用 |
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那原本的智慧優惠條例就在於113年12月31號要屆滿但是我們也考慮到智慧機械的部分我們是可以協助整個產業建立更彈性更高效的一個生產跟服務的優勢所以國內雖然也已經有進步到整個智慧化但是在整個調整結構它必須要較長的時間所以因此 |
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促進產業投資呢還是有它非常重要的一個必要性所以在這樣情況之下請問次長你是否同意這個創新的這個條例能夠提升我國產業競爭力的關鍵重要 |
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這個本來就是關鍵重要對那所以請你支持本席的提案也就是第10條之一跟第72條時間延續下來到118年你是不是同意這個是我們的方向 |
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你們的也是同意所以我們非常高興朝野大家一致我也希望建議主席我們今天在巡打完就趕快加速讓我們的產業可以安心我們能夠今天來出委員會所以因此本校特別提出延長智慧基線跟第五代的行動 |
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通訊系統跟資安非常重要跟資安安全產品或者是服務投資來抵減租稅的優惠期間來新增人工智慧產品或服務能夠將節能減碳這個向下也能夠來投資抵減的項目 |
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這也是我們現在在研擬的方向一直要研擬一直要推動所以我們還是有默契我再次強調新增人工智慧產品或服務節能減碳等投資來作為減向的項目對是認同的 |
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所以我们也希望今天这个寻答完可以直接来处理我们一起加油为我们的产业来加油也请所有的产业在过年的时候能够让他们放心我们一起来支持我们的产业而且让整个产业的智慧优化多元性都能够让他们得到一个安心也就是投资体检的部分呢是最低就是以这个一百万以上最高到十亿的这个这个 |
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範圍內就個案來做協助我們10億有調到18億了對 所以這個非常重要所以我們一直希望能夠把它提升上來就是100萬一直到18億這個整體性大家來達成一個共識來協助我們的產業好 那接下來本席要請教你水會的問題因為卓院長有說漏水率 |
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它預計在未來8年要投資807.7億也就是121年我們10年計畫121年漏水率是要降到10%因為本席不斷地在說那我們水這麼寶貴但是你讓它在管子裡面漏掉這個是太可惜了所以我們不斷地在抓老人太管在這樣的情況之下目前所謂的四級制 |
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但是如果依照目前我們得到的方案是計劃要調整 未來是會調整到7級值那增加200度 1000度以及4000度的級距因為目前為止是10度以下的是7.35 |
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第二段是11度到30度的是9.45第三段的是31度到50度的這個論舉是11.55第四段是50度以上的是拉到12.07那麼如果說照目前我們得到的訊息是要改制為這個7級 |
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那麼換句話說漲幅會從25%漲到90%那換句話說平均值從10.7%會拉到15%換句話說漲幅是4成平均值是4成所以請教市長水費真的會漲嗎因為是31年沒漲那院長是說去研究看但是因為這種研究這裡講的都是 |
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空穴來風啦空穴來風對對我現在講說漲四成那我們要拜託拜託我們媒體委員我非常感謝你這裡講的說漲四成我先插到你的話我非常感謝你我們的質詢目的就是不要讓民眾憂心我們把事實去還原請說 |
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你要調整的話你一定要一定是要審慎的去規劃檢討然後再經過審議委員會去討論那這裡外面都講說直接講說要漲到4成這個都是外面在預測的不是你的目標還有剛才委員講的說要從幾級怎麼去調 |
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四級到七級有沒有這回事這個東西都在檢討當中研議中嗎研議中沒有像外界我剛才講空間來說外界直接就把它直接就引到說要漲到多那大家也安心過年了所以本席要請教我們經濟部的態度是什麼會不會漲 |
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我們省市來研議因為31年沒漲啦我們要來檢討 那檢討的時候也要依據當時的整個一個環境情況還有民生物價的一個狀況市長 你的確是探求明末因為你要注意現在民眾的日子苦蛤蛤對對對尤其我們要省慎的去避免因為你的調漲而去影響到物價的高漲這個我們都會考慮到這個非常重要你有沒有一個時間點你們研議的時間點多久時間會告訴民眾 |
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到底那個時間點 請告訴我們民眾 我們還是要有所本啊對 請說你的言議是無限期的言議 還是半年 還是一年他是說水公司要三個月提方案出來三個月提方案當方案提出來不是就可行啦對對對 所以三個月提方案出來 我還是再次強調 |
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你一定要審慎考量不要因為調漲損費引起物價的高漲這一句知識體大我要謝謝你但是沒有說一下就是到市省這個外面這樣最後一個議題我功課給你再一分鐘給我就好我功課給你 謝謝 |
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我們媒體報導 經濟部所屬的這個事業機構裡頭 台電 台水 台油 這個台廠中有13號舉辦的全國有2萬1千人報考 但是第一節的考試只有達到1萬1238人那換句話 入取率從3.81提升到7.35 因為一半的人幾乎他沒有來考 |
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那創下了有史以來近三年的新低在這樣的情況之下我們五年來報考的人數越來越少國藝事業單位缺工那我本期非常的希望你們要去檢討你要檢討怎麼樣能夠確保人才的永續有沒有要檢討我們現在也把新進人員的薪資要再往上再提升你把你們確保人才的方案 |
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眼裡的方案給本席一定要確保人才 |
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請連次長。 |
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委員好。 |
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針對今天產業創新條例，因為本席非常非常關心我們的產業，這個租稅優惠措施是為了要優化整個產業結構，達到智慧升級轉型，並且鼓勵多元性創新應用。 |
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1 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:28:25.997000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:28:57.860000+08:00 |
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而原本的租稅優惠條例已於113年12月31日屆滿，考量到智慧機械的部分可協助產業建立更彈性、更高效的生產跟服務優勢，國內雖然已經有進步到整個智慧化，但是調整結構需要較長的時間，因此促進產業投資還是有其非常重要的必要性。 |
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0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:28:58.841000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:08.795000+08:00 |
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在這樣的情況之下，請問次長是否同意創新條例對提升我國產業競爭力的關鍵重要性？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:11.211000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:11.612000+08:00 |
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這個本來就是…… |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:12.492000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:14.394000+08:00 |
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關鍵重要？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:14.654000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:25.122000+08:00 |
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所以請你支持本席的提案，也就是第十條之一跟第七十二條，把時間延續下來到118年，你是否同意？ |
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0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:25.262000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2025-01-15T10:29:25.843000+08:00 |
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這是我們的方向。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:26.123000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:39.993000+08:00 |
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你們也是同意，所以我們非常高興朝野大家意見一致，我也建議主席，今天詢答完就加速處理，讓我們的產業可以安心，能夠今天來出委員會。謝謝。 |
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0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:29:40.133000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:01.862000+08:00 |
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因此本席要特別提出，延長智慧機械、第五代行動通訊系統、資訊安全產品或服務投資抵減租稅優惠期間，新增人工智慧產品或服務，將節能減碳也能夠列為投資抵減的項目。 |
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0.901 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:07.424000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:09.106000+08:00 |
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這個是我們現在在研擬的方向。 |
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0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:09.186000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:10.608000+08:00 |
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一直要研擬、一直要推動？對。 |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:10.608000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:11.529000+08:00 |
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所以我們還是有默契。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:11.749000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:20.279000+08:00 |
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我再次強調，新增人工智慧產品或服務、節能減碳等投資可作為抵減的項目？對。 |
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0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:20.279000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:20.459000+08:00 |
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是認同的？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:20.459000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:24.043000+08:00 |
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對，我們新增的方向…… |
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0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:24.043000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2025-01-15T10:30:27.125000+08:00 |
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我們也希望今天詢答完可以直接來處理。好。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:27.906000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2025-01-15T10:30:30.087000+08:00 |
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我們一起加油，為產業來加油。 |
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0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:30.087000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2025-01-15T10:30:31.087000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員支持。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:30.527000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:35.551000+08:00 |
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也請所有的產業在過年的時候能夠放心，我們一起來支持產業。 |
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0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:35.551000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:36.812000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝委員。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:36.812000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:53.882000+08:00 |
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而且讓整個產業智慧優化、多元性，讓他們都能夠安心，也就是投資抵減最低就是100萬以上、最高到10億的這個範圍內，就個案來協助。 |
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0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:54.463000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:30:55.523000+08:00 |
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10億有調到18億了。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-15T10:30:56.223000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:09.230000+08:00 |
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對，這個非常重要，所以我們一直希望能夠把它提升上來，就是從100萬一直到18億，大家達成一個整體性的共識來協助產業。 |
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0.854 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:10.531000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:10.871000+08:00 |
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接下來。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:10.871000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:28.702000+08:00 |
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本席要請教你水費的問題，因為卓院長有提到漏水率，預計未來8年要投資807.7億改善，也就是10年計畫，121年漏水率要降到10%。 |
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0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-15T10:31:28.962000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:41.451000+08:00 |
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本席不斷的在說，水這麼寶貴，但是讓它在管子裡面漏掉太可惜了，所以我們不斷的在抓漏、汰管。 |
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0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:42.191000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:58.088000+08:00 |
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在這樣的情況之下，目前是所謂的4級制，如果依照目前我們得到的方案，未來計畫會調整到7級制，增加200度、1,000度以及4,000度的級距。 |
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0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:31:58.789000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:32:17.440000+08:00 |
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因為目前為止，10度以下的是7.35，第2段11度到30度的是9.45，第3段31度到50度這個range是11.55，第4段50度以上的拉到12.07。 |
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0.884 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2025-01-15T10:32:18.701000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:32:27.625000+08:00 |
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照目前我們得到的訊息要改制為7級，換句話說，漲幅會從25%漲到90%；平均值會從10.7拉到15，平均漲幅是四成，所以請教次長，水費真的會漲嗎？ |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-15T10:32:27.625000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:32:50.533000+08:00 |
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因為31年沒漲，院長說去研究看是要……但是這種研究……這裡講的都是空穴來風。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-15T10:32:51.113000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2025-01-15T10:32:52.554000+08:00 |
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空穴來風？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-15T10:32:52.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2025-01-15T10:32:53.515000+08:00 |
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對，現在說漲四成…… |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-15T10:32:53.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2025-01-15T10:32:57.558000+08:00 |
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那我要拜託媒體…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-15T10:32:57.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2025-01-15T10:32:58.558000+08:00 |
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我是說…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-15T10:32:58.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2025-01-15T10:32:58.979000+08:00 |
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我非常感謝你…… |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-15T10:32:59.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:00.380000+08:00 |
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這裡說漲四成，因為…… |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:00.620000+08:00 |
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2025-01-15T10:33:08.226000+08:00 |
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我先插斷你的話，我非常感謝你，我們質詢的目的就是不要讓民眾憂心，把事實還原，請說。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:09.707000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:11.088000+08:00 |
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因為要調整的話，一定要審慎的去規劃、檢討。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:11.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:11.348000+08:00 |
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再經過審議委員會討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:11.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:12.348000+08:00 |
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這樣就對了。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:11.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:12.749000+08:00 |
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外面都直接說要漲到四成，這個都是外面在臆測的。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:12.849000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:13.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
不是你的目標？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:13.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:13.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
還有剛才委員說要從幾級怎麼調、怎麼調…… |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:28.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:29.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
4級到7級，有沒有這回事？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:30.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:31.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
這個東西都在檢討當中。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:31.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:32.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
研議中嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:33.418000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:38.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
沒有像外界……我剛才講空穴來風，外界直接就把它引到說要漲到多少…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:38.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:39.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
讓大家安心過年。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:39.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:40.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
這對於民心的穩定是沒有幫助的。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:39.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:40.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
所以本席要請教經濟部的態度是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:40.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:40.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
會不會漲？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:46.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:48.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我們會審慎來研議，因為31年沒漲。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:49.445000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2025-01-15T10:33:56.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我們要來檢討，檢討的時候也要依據當時整個環境、情況，還有民生物價的狀況再來說。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.914 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-15T10:33:57.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:02.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
次長，你的確要探求民瘼，你要注意，因為現在民眾的日子苦哈哈。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.704 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:02.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:09.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
尤其我們要審慎避免因為調漲，而影響到物價高漲，這個非常重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.741 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:09.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:09.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
這個我們都會考慮到。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:10.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:11.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你有沒有一個時間點？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:11.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:11.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
你們研議的時間點？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:11.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:11.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
到底多久時間會告訴民眾？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:18.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:25.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
那個時間點，請告訴民眾，我們還是要有所本，請說。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:25.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:29.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
你的研議是無限期的研議，還是半年，還是一年？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:30.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:36.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
水公司3個月會提方案出來，方案提出來不是就可行，還要再經過跟外界溝通。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.645 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:37.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:42.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
對，雖然3個月會提方案出來，但我還是再次強調，你一定要審慎考量。會。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:43.195000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:45.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
不要因為調漲水費引起物價高漲。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:45.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:46.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
因為茲事體大，我們會很審慎考量。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:45.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:45.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
對，這一句「茲事體大」，我要謝謝你，真的要注意。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:45.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:46.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
但是沒有說一下就到四成，外面這樣臆測…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:46.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:47.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
好，沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:47.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:48.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
我覺得對整個社會不好。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2025-01-15T10:34:46.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2025-01-15T10:34:47.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
最後一個議題，我給你功課，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:00.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:13.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
媒體報導經濟部所屬的事業機構，包括台電、台水、台糖、中油，13號舉辦的考試，全國有2萬1,000人報考，但是第一節的考試只有1萬1,238人到考。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.736 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:13.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:25.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
換句話，錄取率從3.81%提升到7.35%，因為幾乎一半的人沒有來考，創下了近3年的新低。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.853 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:26.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:35.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
在這樣的情況之下，5年來報考的人數越來越少，國營事業單位缺工，本席非常希望你們要檢討，對不對？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:35.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:40.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
你要檢討怎麼樣能夠確保人才永續。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:40.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:41.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
有沒有要檢討？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:41.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:45.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
我們現在也要把新進人員的薪資再往上提升。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:45.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:50.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
你把你們確保人才所研擬的方案給本席。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
連次長錦漳 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:50.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:51.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
好，我們會提供報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:51.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:52.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
一定要確保人才，是不是？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:53.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:55.489714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
謝謝楊委員，請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:55.789714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2025-01-15T10:35:59.504000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
現在休息5分鐘，必要時延長2分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2025-01-15T10:35:59.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2025-01-15T10:36:00.946857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
休息（10時36分） |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2025-01-15T10:36:01.246857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2025-01-15T10:36:02.961143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
繼續開會（10時43分） |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2025-01-15T10:36:03.261143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2025-01-15T10:36:04.975429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
現在繼續開會。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2025-01-15T10:36:05.275429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2025-01-15T10:36:08.418286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
下一位請陳超明委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0 |