| IVOD_ID |
158883 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158883 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-19,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-15T10:20:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-15T10:27:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/427ddbb1724b1d1aa2678e2e1bfb8d1e5a45ebd5c2e753184204766f4a2623bd5e1aacc5385281515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:20:45 - 10:27:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員葛如鈞等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員林岱樺等18人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員楊瓊瓔等29人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
五、本院委員何欣純等23人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
六、本院委員邱議瑩等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
七、本院委員蔡其昌等18人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
八、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
九、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
十、本院委員邱志偉等20人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
十一、本院委員鄭正鈐等19人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
(第一案及第十一案如未接獲議事處來函，則不予審查)
【1月15日及16日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請這個經濟部的林慈昌進入林市長 |
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市長好,今天談產業創新條例,剛好上一位呂友也有提到,剛好也是我想要就教在連市長的。我們這次產業創新條例有一個重要的主軸,就是提供事業投資、智慧機械、5G、減人減碳這些租稅減免,這是一項。 |
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另外一項呢我也認為說我們這個修法也具備了國安還有社會安全的意識就是在這一個22條那我看一下你們的22條裡面你們有提到說為保護關鍵的技術還有維持這個產業競爭力所以呢你們有做一個修正從事國外投資於特定國家或地區特定產業或技術或達一定金額以上情形者應事前向中央主管機關申請核准 |
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那有這個沒有申請核准實行投資者會處罰藉其會改正或停止或撤回投資都有啦那一樣請教一下因為我認為說這一點寫的明確是非常重要的 |
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因為我們既然有這個產業創新條例我們鼓勵企業來投資但是有一些具有這個關鍵性的一些產業或是技術你就沒辦法讓它流到特定的國家或地區尤其是對台灣有敵對有敵意的國家或地區嘛那這一點能不能請次長再說清楚一點 |
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就是這個投資於特定的國家或地區是指怎樣的國家或地區比如說是指中國嗎還是指哪裡我們現在是其實我們現在主要是在恢弘供應鏈的方式去著手啦那尤其是有一些我們的先進的技術我們絕對不能留到跟我們有一些相關的一些一些對我們不友善的國家而且這些先進的技術我們剛才講也要跟國際的一些規範要去做接軌 |
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對啊 就是現在美國尤其川普總統他也對於一些關鍵的技術高階的晶片就是不能留下美國去嘛那我說請教一下這些特定的國家跟地區有沒有包含中國因為兩岸條例有在做一些規範所以我們這個會另外在跟兩岸條例那邊去做一些切割那你們這22條的規範是怎麼樣 |
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各位報告特定地區我們目前最主要考量是有關於在戰略性高科技貨品管制出口的一些地區包括伊朗 伊拉克等等還有有關於聯合國它對於特定國家制裁的一些管制令譬如說像北韓這些國好 那中國呢關於對中國附大陸投資的部分我們依照兩岸條例35條我們另外有訂一個附大陸投資的一個許可辦法 |
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那都有相關的規定那所以這一條跟你剛才講的這一個兩岸投資條例會搭在一起是會搭在一起還是副大陸投資的部分要優先適用搭在一起還是我看你搖頭搭在一起還是怎麼樣不同的規範不同的規範市長講搭在一起的意思是什麼就是說兩邊會一起看嘛如果你要走兩岸的就是兩岸這邊來處理嘛那其他非兩岸的就是這邊再來處理 |
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那兩岸規範有比你這個更嚴格嗎有有有 更嚴格更嚴格好 更嚴格好 那請教一下這個現在在審查這個中央政府的總預算那下午也會針對這個追加預算來做協商那有關於這個台電有兩筆一筆是這一個今年度的應該算去年度的追加預算1000億另外一個是今年度的這一個在總預算裡面的1000億 |
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那這個1000億這個追加預算朝野協商我認為大概很難過因為現在朝野協商都是過水那現在這個不論是國民黨或是自衛黨都說了這個追加預算不會讓你們過1000億不會讓你們過 |
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那另外一個呢這個還在今年的這個預算裡面的一千億我剛聽了這個民眾黨的說法他們的提案全數都刪除那等於是說這個看你們這個我看了一下有九個針對台電的這個今年的這個一千億的預算九個提案裡面有五個說要全部都刪除那次長你怎麼看如果這追加預算一千億也沒有了今年度的這一千億也沒有了等於是兩千億都沒有了那台電怎麼辦 |
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所以我們還是希望大家能夠支持這個我跟你講就不可能了我現在可以跟你斷言不可能了朝野前算不會讓你過那現在朝小野大嘛 他們已經講白了 藍白又講白了這一千億今年度也不會讓你過等於是兩千億就沒了你怎麼辦 你要用最壞的方式去想啦你不要再講說我還希望說這個在野黨能夠通過沒有啦 他們兼幣親野就是不會讓你過了啦不要存有這種幻想了 |
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那這我們內部會好好再來思考一下這個還要再思考尤其是那個 剛才那個那個委員有提到說那個台電怎麼也要人家早就剛剛思考好了啦因為這個應該在你們沙盤推演裡面兩千億沒有了會怎麼辦第一個電費會不會調漲嗎第二個要舉債嗎 |
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這個都是一個方向但是電費調漲因為事關重大再來舉債台電也舉債的差不多了所以這一塊我們如果真的是碰到這個狀況我們會審視的去審密的去思考看後續要怎麼來進行那怎麼辦 台電會不會打 |
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台電我們不可能讓他倒了台電不可能讓他倒你們那個財務的這個改善計畫有出來是不是有有有有出來了那給本席一份那這個改善這個改善報告出來這個你們要怎麼去做改善 |
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裡面我們有一部分就是從燃料那一邊也有去做一些調整燃料你們說會降嗎我們是預期說如果是川普上來的話他針對這塊是不是有降的空間再來就是有一些整個行政效率上去調整還有一些資產的一些重補這一部分再來做沒關係因為主席站起來了這個資料再給我一份好不好好謝謝主席 |