| IVOD_ID |
158772 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158772 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-08T11:56:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-08T12:04:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/740a0dd0b202cb586bcdc1c728c06b52a56fd3a12bc29fbbe734c898429ef19a1c4c51fc1a7b281b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:56:57 - 12:04:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於經濟部主管：經濟作業基金、水資源作業基金、經濟特別收入基金、核能發電後端營運基金。(詢答)
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣糖業股份有限公司、台灣中油股份有限公司。(詢答)
【1月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 請台堂總經理跟董事長請吳董事長跟我們的陳總經理哇 今天5加1喔 5加1只有360秒來 這個董事長剛上任我想我先問總經理這個有機米 |
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董事長你先休息一下因為你剛上面有機米現在台北市中小學都供應做營養午餐都是台南有機米你要把它擴展到全國高雄市 台南市 台中市都要用你們有機米那麼好的品質台北市都用了你們有沒有什麼計畫是 謝謝委員那委員講的也是我們所想的就是說你還走啊 |
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你打入台北市那其他的縣市其他的都要去是我們會後續我們會一個月給我這個相關你們規劃報告好一個月是是是那個台塘土地啊 |
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這個土地多很容易被非法侵盜這個部分你們有沒有什麼方案目前有沒有相關統計說你們監管機制要如何去強化那你現在你們土地有多少被非法侵盜廢棄物有沒有相關數據包委員我們 |
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在這兩三年以來我們大幅的去加強我們土地巡查的相關的一個作業的一個機制以及我們在比較我們也篩選出來一些所謂的我們認為高風險的一個地區如果發現不法有沒有提告有 你要積極作為要把你們土地管理好不要變成廢棄物的天堂 |
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這個部分我只要提醒你把這個問題做徹底解決另外我告訴你們這個廠房停工損失包括你的土地稅會損失很多土地利用改善你們要加強去監理你知道我在說什麼有些廠房停工已經到34年你要怎麼樣讓你的停工廠房去活化再利用 |
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不要因為這個相關稅金所持那麼多這部分再請台東再去了解因為董事長剛剛上任我把問題點出來下一位請忠祐董事長跟總經理請方董事長跟張總經理兩位請回座 |
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青能車上路全球已經有上萬輛青能車那現在台灣還是沒有任何的加薪站本來在高雄要設所做的加薪站你目前的規劃是延到什麼時候 |
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跟委員報告嘉青站現在已經機械完工了那麼在這個月10號我們會遞件申請使用執照那麼當中同步在進行一些系統上的測試在進行中預計我們應該第二季應該可以取得使用我們落後太多了 |
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就是說跟國際的氫能的這個發展我們已經落後太多你如果沒有這個未來以後全部用氫能你沒有一個加氣站加氣站怎麼辦這是很大的問題所以我希望你們是不是能夠三個月之內你們為了要趕上全球氫能運輸的發展你們提出三個月的三個月之內提出中長期的政策規劃是好謝謝另外你們海管我們現在要蓋海管 |
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這個中國啊 這個無所不用其破壞台灣的安定 破壞能源安全台灣的海嵐 你們現在也要蓋這個相關的海嵐永安 永安到通宵 第二條的海底運輸 通宵到大潭所以未來如果蓋成之後 如何要加強防範這些你們有什麼想法 相關的想法嗎是 我們先從 |
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海管本質上海管本身它是埋在海底下面0.5到1公尺之間同時這個海管本身它有鋼筋混凝土去保護所以它沒辦法破壞可以破壞但是它有相當的保護這第一點第二個如果說它走的路徑要跨過海嵐的話 |
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那在相关的施作上也有一些标准的规范会去制作按照规范来去实施比如说电缆在下面的话它先会铺一个垫子在上面然后海管走在上面之后铺一些碎石石头去把它保护起来 |
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是啦 我是說 這個點出這個問題你們未來鋪 要設海管的部分這個輸氣管很重要 不能讓它斷氣所以輸氣管很重要 你如果以為被它破壞它如果真的要做 它可能可不可以做得到報告委員 這個可能是國防的議題我太專業 我沒辦法回答你但是防護是你的 實質是你的工作嘛你要確保讓它沒有辦法破壞你的這個海管嘛 對不對所以這部分 你 |
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未來要很多的這個書記管這部分你要做最大的努力讓他確保不會有任何被破壞的狀況好是是我們願意好最後60秒來請各位請回請這個部長跟那個能源署署長請郭部長游署長我現在在質詢的都精準質詢的好 |
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新達電廠的核聚合種,我已經講太多次了新達海基,這幾年繞了六、七十年就此停頓下來解散,還是未來你川普2.0他全球離岸封建政策會改變 |
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不希望在美國蓋離岸封建所以離岸封建會回到歐亞這個部分會降低他的成本未來興大海基有沒有機會興大海基因為我們不是把這個公司結束掉我們只是說他現在是維持嘛那他既有的這個員工跟既有的這個技術已經成長的這個技術我們會開拓到他可以發展的這個地方所以他不會解散 |
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他不會倒閉他不會倒閉啦我們現在正在研擬如果幫助他展開你要繼續成長你要繼續讓他營業你要投入更多的資金欸不是我們會跟他就是說因為現在台灣還是有很多的這個這個需求嘛 |
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那現在問題是我們在這個興達港的那個港的條件是不夠我很熟啊這個我每天都要搬來巡港是呀這個部分是不是上個月提出這個興達海基轉型的計畫是好我先趕趕謝謝 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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請台糖總經理跟董事長。 |
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主席 |
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請吳董事長跟陳總經理。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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今天發言時間只有5+1分鐘喔，這樣只有360秒！ |
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邱委員志偉 |
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董事長剛上任，我先問總經理。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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董事長，你先休息一下，因為你剛上任。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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現在臺北市中小學營養午餐供應的都是台糖有機米，你要把它擴展到全國，高雄市、臺南市、臺中市都要用你們的有機米，那麼好的品質，臺北市都用了，你們有沒有什麼計畫？ |
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陳總經理立人 |
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謝謝委員。 |
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1 |
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陳總經理立人 |
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委員講的也是我們所想的，就是…… |
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1 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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你要做！ |
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0.333 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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你打入臺北市，其他的縣市也都要去…… |
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0.933 |
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陳總經理立人 |
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是，我們後續會朝著這個目標來努力。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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一個月給我你們相關的規劃報告。好。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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台糖土地多，很容易被非法傾倒，針對這個部分，你們有沒有什麼方案？ |
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邱委員志偉 |
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目前有沒有相關統計，看你們的監管機制要如何強化？ |
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邱委員志偉 |
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現在你們的土地有多少被非法傾倒廢棄物？ |
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邱委員志偉 |
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有沒有相關數據？ |
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1 |
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陳總經理立人 |
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我們在這兩、三年大幅加強土地巡查相關作業機制，也篩選出一些我們認為高風險的地區，然後…… |
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邱委員志偉 |
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如果發現不法，有沒有提告？有。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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你要積極作為，要把你們的土地管理好，不要變成廢棄物的天堂，這個部分再提醒你，把這個問題澈底解決。 |
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邱委員志偉 |
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另外，我要告訴你們，廠房停工損失包括你的土地稅會損失很多，你們要加強監理土地利用改善，你知道我在說什麼嗎？ |
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陳總經理立人 |
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2025-01-08T11:59:16.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:17.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:16.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:30.108000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
有些廠房停工已經34年，你要怎麼樣讓停工廠房活化再利用，不要損失那麼多稅金，這部分再請台糖去了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:30.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:34.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
因為董事長剛剛上任，我把問題點出來。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:34.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:36.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
下一位請中油董事長跟總經理。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:37.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:39.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
請方董事長跟張總經理。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:40.898000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:41.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
兩位請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:41.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:45.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
吳董先請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:45.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:50.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:50.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2025-01-08T11:59:54.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
兩位都是老中油人，不管誰回答都可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2025-01-08T11:59:54.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:06.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
全球已經有上萬輛氫能車上路，現在臺灣卻還是沒有任何的加氫站，本來在高雄要設首座加氫站，目前的規劃是延到什麼時候？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:08.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:21.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
加氫站現在已經基建完工了，那麼在這個月10號我們會遞件申請使用執照，當然同步在進行一些系統上的測試當中，預計在第二季應該可以取得使用執照。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:21.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:22.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我們落後太多了！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:23.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:32.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
跟國際的氫能發展相比，我們已經落後太多，未來如果全部用氫能，沒有加氫站怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:32.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:32.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
這是一個很大的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:36.887000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:43.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
為了要趕上全球氫能運輸的發展，所以我希望你們是不是能夠3個月之內提出中長期的政策規劃？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.756 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:43.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:44.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:44.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2025-01-08T12:00:53.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
另外，我們現在要蓋海管，中國無所不用其極破壞臺灣的安定，包括能源安全。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-08T12:00:54.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2025-01-08T12:01:10.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
至於臺灣的海纜，你們現在也要蓋相關的海纜，從永安到通霄第二條海底輸氣管線，還有從通霄到大潭，未來蓋成之後要如何加強防範，你們有相關的想法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.781 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-08T12:01:10.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2025-01-08T12:01:23.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
是，我們先從海管本質上來講，海管本身是埋在海底下面0.5到1公尺之間，同時，海管本身有鋼筋混凝土去包覆。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2025-01-08T12:01:23.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2025-01-08T12:01:25.228000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
所以它沒辦法破壞，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-08T12:01:25.228000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-08T12:01:28.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
可以破壞，但是它有相當的保護，這是第一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-08T12:01:28.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-08T12:01:52.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
第二個，如果它走的路徑要跨過海纜的話，在相關的施作上也有一些標準規範，要按照規範去實施，譬如電纜在下面的話，會先鋪一個墊子在上面，然後海管走在上面，之後再鋪一些碎石頭把它保護起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.695 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-08T12:01:53.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:02.146000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
我是點出這個問題，你們未來要鋪設海管的部分，因為輸氣管很重要，不能讓它斷氣，對不對？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.816 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:02.146000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:07.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
所以輸氣管很重要，如果會被它破壞，它如果真的要做，可不可以做得到？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:09.371000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:13.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
報告委員，這個可能是國防的議題，太專業了，我沒辦法回答你。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:13.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:30.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
但是防護是你的工作，你要能夠確保讓它沒有辦法破壞你的海管，你未來還要蓋很多的輸氣管，你要盡最大的努力確保不會有任何被破壞的狀況。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.883 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
方董事長振仁 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:30.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:31.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
是，我們研議。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:32.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:38.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
最後60秒，請部長及能源署署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:38.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:41.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
請郭部長、游署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:41.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2025-01-08T12:02:42.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
像我的質詢都是精準質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2025-01-08T12:02:49.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:05.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
部長，興達電廠的何去何從我已經講太多次了，興達海基這幾年賠了六、七十億，要就此停頓下來解散，還是未來川普2.0對全球離岸風電政策會改變？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.767 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:08.479000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:17.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
他不希望在美國蓋離岸風電，所以離岸風電會回到歐亞，這個部分會降低它的成本，未來興達海基有沒有機會？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.844 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:17.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:20.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
因為我們不是把興達海基這個公司結束掉，我們只是…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:20.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:22.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
轉型嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:22.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:30.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
它現在是維持，既有的員工及既有的技術、已經成長的技術，我們會開拓到它可以發展的地方。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:30.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:34.334000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
所以它不會解散、它不會倒閉、它會一直存在？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:34.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:38.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
它不會倒閉，我們現在正在研擬如何幫助它展開…… |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:38.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:42.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
你要讓它繼續成長，你要繼續讓它營業要投入更多的資金，你要讓它轉型…… |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
郭部長智輝 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:45.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-08T12:03:55.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
因為現在臺灣還是有很多的需求，現在問題是興達港的條件是不夠的。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-08T12:03:55.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-08T12:04:03.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
那個我很熟，我每天都要到那裡巡港，上個月是不是有提出興達海基轉型的計畫？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-08T12:04:03.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2025-01-08T12:04:04.226000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
好，我的時間到了，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-08T12:04:04.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2025-01-08T12:04:07.011714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
請黃國昌委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |