| IVOD_ID |
15877 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15877 |
| 日期 |
2024-05-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-15-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-05-02T09:29:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-05-02T13:28:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:58:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3eae1784ed6585ee25e120496b9609fda6b3be8d109af184be461b5b4d2704150c75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-05-02T09:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具「姓名條例部分條文修正草案」案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具「姓名條例部分條文修正草案」案。三、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「姓名條例第二條及第四條條文修正草案」案。【詢答及處理；上開議案如經院會復議則不予審查】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:29:13 - 13:28:00 |
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文請主任秘書報告出席人數。報告委員會出席委員14人以主法定人數。 |
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我們現在開會進行報告事項請宣讀上次的會議議事錄立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議議事錄時間113年4月29日星期一上午9時4分至下午1時5分113年5月1日星期三上午9時至12時15分地點紅龍202會議室出席委員蘇巧慧委員等14人練習委員謝龍健委員等27人練習官員4月29日內政部政務次長花敬群暨相關人員 |
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原住民族委員會政務副主任委員古仲格拉方案。大陸委員會法政處處長鄭明瑞及相關人員。行政院外交國防法務處副處長陳永志。教育部中生教育司司長李玉娟及相關人員。衛生福利部社會保險司副司長陳真惠及相關人員。行政院人事行政總處主編人力處專門委員張雅惠。5月1日大陸委員會主任委員邱泰山及相關人員。財團法人海峽交流基金會副秘書長蔡茂鈞及相關人員。 |
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內政部移民署署長鍾景坤交通部觀光署副署長周庭章暨相關人員主席高金召集委員素梅。4月29日報告事項宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定討論事項一新住民權益保障法草案及新住民基本法草案暨五案。 |
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委員蘇巧慧、臺灣民眾黨黨團代表麥玉珍委員、國民黨黨團代表牛許廷委員及委員張志倫說明提案要旨。內政部政務次長花敬群報告委員蘇巧慧等17人質詢,分別由內政部政務次長花敬群及相關人員、行政院人事行政總處主編人力處專門委員張雅慧、教育部中生教育司司長及相關人員、大陸委員會法證處處長達夫說明。 |
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四條及委員王美惠等4人委員徐新穎等3人委員牛許廷等6人及委員 |
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牛許廷等三人所提修正動議及委員徐欣穎等三人所提附帶決議均予以保留。二、第一條趙委員蘇巧慧等26人提案通過。三、本次會議所討論各黨團及委員所提新住民基本法草案等提案。請內政部於會後將本次會議各黨團及委員提案版本與委員發言所提出相關新住民遭遇之現況問題向行政院匯報,並請行政院緊速提出新住民基本法相關草案,必力進駐排商議程再進行審查。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具《原住民族基本法》案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具《原住民族基本法》案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具《原住民族基本法》案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具《原住民族基本法》案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具《原住民族基本法》案。七、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具《原住民族基本法》案。八、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人 |
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與一個月內辦理5場公聽會時進行條文審查。新海保署已於高雄、彰化、澎湖、花蓮及台東辦理公聽會。婉郡為求立法周延原型海洋保育署於北部地區新增一場公聽會,邀請相關部會官員、專家學者與名其原住民部落代表傾聽意見納入建言加開這公聽會,不便跟原決議委員會之立法程序人因原決議得進行逐條審查。 |
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5月1日報告事項,央行內政部交通部大陸委員會財團法人海峽交流基金會原住民族委員會就針對陸方開放大陸觀光客來台具體回應其作為進行專題報告並被質詢。大陸委員會主任委員邱泰山交通部觀光署副署長鄒廷章報告委員蘇巧慧等21人質詢,分別由大陸委員會主任委員邱泰山及相關人員 |
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交通部觀光署副署長周庭張記相關人員答覆說明。決定一、登記發言委員除不在場者外其餘均與發言完畢詢答結束。二、委員黃仁、徐巧、新林德夫、莊瑞雄、王弘維及羅志強等6人所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報。三、書面質詢及未期答覆部分請相關機關於一周內另以書面答覆並複製本會。通過臨時提案五案宣讀完畢。 |
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四條條文修正草案案。」宣讀完畢。 |
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本日議程所討論的事項我們合併詢答我先介紹一下現在出席的委員張宏祿委員王美惠委員蘇巧惠委員黃婕委員李博義委員伍麗華委員 |
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黃建斌委員。現在我要介紹一下今天在場的列席官員。非常謝謝內政部的部長李文武昌親自到場。還有護政司的代理司長陳子和。因為我們今天是審原住民姓名條例, |
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我請一下在場的原住民的官員,原民會的官員自己介紹自己的名字,然後順便解釋一下給大家聽他的名字好不好,讓大家學習一下。我們請原民會的副主委古仲卡拉瓦恩,我們請古仲副主委來跟大家說您的名字。 |
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二、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬 |
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謝謝,這樣大家比較了解了,因為我們未來在審這個姓名條例之後呢,可能大家就要學習一下原住民的這個名字應該怎麼講才會比較正確。好,繼續,我們請綜合規劃處的處長,也是我們的周竹處長來。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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主席、各位委員、大家好。我是布農族的。我的族名叫Biong Taksvilainan。Biong是燒淨的木炭。Taksvilainan是我氏族名,是Vilainan的後代,所以Taksvilainan。 |
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所以我們主任都不會錯誤您是哪一個家族的對吧從後面的這個姓氏就可以清楚知道您來自哪個家族請問一下我們的鄒族的處長也是這樣嗎看後面的也是現在再繼續介紹財團法人援助民族語言發展基金會的董事長阿美族的 |
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三、審查委員Loka Takora等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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所以我的孩子就說什麼什麼麻藥以上OK所以未來您的孩子就是什麼什麼然後後面一定會有麻藥是的好謝謝也是我們的援運前輩加油謝謝好繼續我介紹的是文化部人文集出版室專門委員廖妮妮外交部領事事務局護照行政組組長林秀榮法務部參事廖江憲 |
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教育部中宣教育司副司長嚴寶月。我們現在請提案的委員來說明提案要者,請美會委員來幫我帶來主席。我們請召委提案說明,謝謝。 |
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謝謝主席也謝謝部長今天也親自出席然後剛剛也特別再請我們園民會的相關的這個代表做自己的名稱族名的介紹我想今天呢召委我提這個案子我自己感覺身為一個原住民族的立法委員我特別的有意義在這裡所以跟大家說明為什麼我會今天會提案 |
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今天我提案的部分是因為原住民族的語言發展法從106年6月三讀通過之後第一條就開宗明義的說原住民族的語言是國家的語言因此我們的族人原本就可以使用原住民族的文字作為姓名的登記但是內政部以溝通識別困難為藉口 |
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逐饒族人以單列原住民族的文字為自己的命名這是漠視原住民的姓名權跟人格權也漠視了原住民族語言為國家語言的事實這更凸顯了蔡政府對於原住民基本權利的無視一直到族人尋求司法途徑救濟 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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用訴訟為自己來爭取權益,因此為全體原住民族的權利本席正式提案修法。明文的規範可以單列原住民族的名字作為姓名的登記,這讓我們的族人不再陷入單打獨鬥又廢日礦石的訴訟過程,同時也可以讓我們的族人找回自己的文化, |
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也依循自己的文化慣俗為自己為下一代來命名由我們自己來決定我們想要的樣子我請在場的委員還有機關能夠支持本席的提案謝謝我們感謝召委的提案說明謝謝我們請伍麗華提案說明 |
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謝謝主席伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe做提案說明Saidhai就是一個百Tahovecahe就是我們的家屋名不是家族名是家屋名 |
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在這邊做提案說明台灣原住民族從過去登記無異議的漢姓漢名就失去了我們自己的名字也失去了我們的族譜 |
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從元韻前輩1995年還我姓名運動開始後來成功爭取了修正姓名條例可以用中文譯音來登記傳統姓名但是仍然造成了許多不正確讀音的困擾 |
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隨後在2001年、2003年通過修正,讓原住民在身份證上可以用原住民族文字來並列傳統姓名,算是立下了還我姓名運動的一個里程碑。 |
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不過在2017年如剛才趙薇所說的原住民族語言發展法跟2019年公佈施行的國家語言發展法國家已經在法律上面肯認了原住民族文字為國家的語言 |
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因此,我在2020年進入立法院的4年多以來,透過提案、質詢總共11次,要求必須修正姓名條例,讓原住民可以單列族名來作為身份登記,不需要受限於現行規定要以詞源、詞海、康熙等通用字典或教育部編定的國語字典中所列的文字來作為姓名登記文字。 |
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1081.864 |
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很振奮在2022年的4月1日原住民身份法已經由憲法法庭判決確認違憲必須修正讓身份證上取用漢人姓氏並列傳統姓名羅馬拼音者也能夠取得原住民身份 |
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四條的修正條文並新增第一條修正動議。我的修正重點摘要如下。 |
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第二條修正臺灣原住民使用傳統姓名辦理戶籍登記申請規劃或護照不限於取用中文姓名使用中文文字得選擇使用原住民族文字也就是單列族名登記第一條基於姓名權的橫評考量修法前才以漢名並列傳統姓名登記的以中意並列傳統姓名登記的 |
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或以漢名登記而於修法後改以單列傳統姓名登記的,均得原引本條例第9條之改名次數規定,回復傳統姓名以三次違憲。四、為體系一貫、明文規範、臺灣原住民使用中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名者得使用傳統姓名的羅馬拼音或原住民族文字並列登記, |
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也就是說漢名傳統姓名原住民族文字並列登記。那以上呢是我的提案說明,懇請各位立委以及行政機關予以支持,謝謝。好,非常謝謝提案委員,謝謝伍麗華委員。好,我們現在請劉昌部長然後呢來做報告。 |
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主席、各位委員先進。跟各位委員報告,我也有阿美族的名字。所以是不是讓我也用阿美族語來跟大家介紹我的名字。我好一早就來過。 |
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Kacaw的意思是英雄的意思是獵人的意思其實是在阿美族裔很普遍有的一個名字這個名字是大概十幾年前我某一年在參加母親節的活動的時候 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。 |
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所以在這邊我們各位委員先進首先真的是非常感謝各位委員對本部業務的一個推動還有支持那今天我們召開審查姓名條例部分條文的修正草案總共有三案那我以下就相關的一些這個本部的意見二要做說明請各位委員參考 |
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首先有關於鄭天財委員等21人及高金素梅委員等24人提案修正第一條以及第8條有關臺灣原住民修正為臺灣原住民族一節 |
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為時體力一致本部競表尊重。有關於傳統姓名修正為傳統名字或姓名一節。按姓名條例第三條規定,姓名包括姓名、姓氏及名字,無姓氏者得登記名字。 |
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原住民無姓氏可僅登記名字。我們是建議維持現行條文,就可以符合相關的需求。另外,有關於增訂臺灣原住民傳統姓名之文化習俗的調查確認內涵意義,認定基準等事宜,由中央原住民族主管機關定定至1節本部競表尊重。 |
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二、高金素梅委員等24人鄭天財委員等21人以及伍麗華委員等16人提案修正第二條的條文徵定原住民姓名可單列原住民族文字與行政院政策決定一致本部敬表尊重 |
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三、高金素梅委員等24人鄭天財委員等21人伍麗華委員等16人提案修正第4條條文明確規範傳統姓名得以援助民族文字並列登記者僅限於中英文之傳統姓名及漢人姓名本部竟表尊重 |
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鄭天財委員等21人提案修正第九條條文徵定臺灣原住民族基於文化習俗改名者不受改名次數之限制本部禁表尊重。 |
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五、另按原住民身份法第三條規定,原住民取用姓名與其身份息息相關,本次新增姓名的單列原住民族文字,是為納入該條規範,有原住民姓名單列原住民族文字,上涉及各界資訊系統功能調整等配套的措施,以予適當的實例。 |
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必妥為因應以維護原住民族權益,故建議考量第二條的施行日期。」 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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以上我就只有這五個介紹所以下次大家可以見到我的時候也叫我Jewas但是呢千萬別叫阿力喔阿力是我媽媽喔Jewas是我的名字那阿力呢是竹筍你們吃過竹筍吧對泰雅竹呢就是竹筍的意思所以你看我們原住民的名字都跟大自然在一起謝謝接下來我們請原民會股仲這個副主委 |
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主席還有各位委員那我想在報告之前我先針對我的恢復傳統姓名這部分先做報告那民國90年的4月27號因為法律的容許我將我原來的漢姓去做修正恢復我傳統的姓名叫古仲克勒方安那近幾年剛好在簽戶籍的時候就順便一道把羅馬拼音古仲克勒方安 |
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第二條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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四條條文修正草案。」案。在此提出報告。首先,關於《姓名條例主管機關內政部》剛剛部長已經針對大院所 |
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大用委員所提《姓名條例部分條文修正草案》的分析意見本會競表贊同。其次,陳柔剛剛Saidhai委員也提出報告,在現行的法例裡面,嚴重民主語言發展法第一條規定,嚴重民主語言為國家的語言。第二條規定,嚴重民主文字是指用以記錄嚴重民主語言之書寫系統。 |
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《國家語言發展法》第4條規定,國家語言一律平等,國民使用國家語言應不受歧視或限制,以原住民族文字單獨登記傳統名字,可以彰顯語言之平等地位。 |
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另外以原住民族文字單獨登記原住民族傳統名字可以精準呈現名字的發音提升文化認同並有助於傳承各族的命名文化及制度也符合原住民族族人長期的期待所以對於委員的這個修正提案法律的修正提案我們本會是樂觀期間以上報告敬請委員指教謝謝 |
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其他單位的報告我們就請委員執行參閱並且刊登公報現在進行詢答委員執行前我們按照慣例做以下節點宣告第一個是本會和原住民委員發言時間是4分鐘必要的時候延長2分鐘不是本會委員發言是4分鐘 |
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上午10時30分截止發言登記。 |
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三、審查委員沙利嘎嘎麦布隆等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三名條文修正草案案案。三、審查委員沙利嘎嘎麦布隆等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第四名條文修正草案案。三、審查委員沙利嘎嘎麦布隆等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第四名條文修正草案案。三、審查委員沙利嘎麦布隆等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第四名條文修正草案案。三、審查委員沙利嘎麦布隆等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第四名條文 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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所以我想是今天我們在處理這個原住民的傳統姓名我自己真的是深切感受我記得我八年前第一次有機會到立法院擔任國會議員的時候對原民會的質詢就是質詢關於名字的部分為什麼?因為我的先生回復了傳統姓名龍南Isaac Farnas |
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我的女兒兩個從出生就是用傳統姓名命名Sau Ma Su Fangas Saolin Su Fangas為什麼因為我們知道在當年他們出生的時候十幾年前十三四年前社會對原名認同名字的認同 |
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還沒有像現在這麼的普遍我們的職棒明星我們這個歌手大家都用傳統姓名行走在世界上面對自己的族人與世界但當時需要更多有聲量有分配的人率先做這件事所以我們選擇了用傳統姓名直接幫孩子登記在戶口名簿上讓他們未來就是這樣知道他是阿美族和漢族的孩子 |
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好 可是部長今天就是要跟您請教了因為我發現過往我等一下要問的問題問原民會是得不到答案的原來是內政部為什麼我要問的問題其實就是我們命名完成了之後呢其實會遇到很多現實上的困難 |
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這個困難就是來自於政府機關或公司部門在填名字的時候那個電腦來問資源不夠這麼簡單的事情但是就是對我非常困擾我有多少次我收到衛生局的通知單的時候你知道我是什麼嗎我不是掃碼的媽媽我不是掃令的媽媽我是見記事欄媽媽 |
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因為他的名字填不夠啊所以當時他在登記的時候他就寫建記式欄的意思是他的名字很長齁此人用原住民傳統姓名登記名字為什麼什麼什麼這才寫得很長嘛但是他在Excel表格套用的時候即便連政府機關他都沒有辦法去回推因為他就是啪啪啪電腦打出去嘛所以我收到了多少張通知單我叫做建記式欄媽媽 |
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1906.416 |
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鄭季氏蘭太太。」你知道那個心情嗎?所以當時我來的時候請原民會第一件事情就是我們要恢復鼓勵大家使用傳統姓名但我沒有給他便利性所以部長八年後的現在我終於搞清楚了這件事情自圓不管是公部門或者公部門帶頭私部門你知道嗎我在填機票填信用卡的時候都超級難用的因為自圓都不對啊還有到底什麼是姓什麼是名 |
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1908.558 |
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1928.16 |
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請問,我的問題很單純,內政部護政司有沒有辦法為我們原住民族人朋友解決這個問題?是,我非常贊成委員剛剛所提的這樣子的一個理念。是,當然但是還有實際操作啊。是,委員我跟您報告,其實我個人認為, |
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1929.778 |
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1954.912 |
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其實姓名的認同其實非常的重要所以剛剛在提到其實這個代表了社會的一個進步還有一個整個社會文化的一個提升所以我非常非常支持也非常贊成我們族人這個姓名的一個單列其他的這些問題跟困難是行政機關要來解決是我已經質詢很多次了行政機關要來解決而且應該要來調整 |
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1956.593 |
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1978.678 |
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那剛剛提到的資源不夠的一個問題我請那個司長這邊來說明現在基本上護意證系統是沒有問題的護意證系統沒有問題但是要嫁接到其他而且要能夠通令到大家能夠也是如此做啦老實說這八年確實有點進步啦那我埋沒質詢過很多次包括徐部長我記得我有跟他討論過這樣的問題好那所以因為時間的關係第一個就是要求內政部的態度好部長清楚表態那剩下就是技術問題 |
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1985.14 |
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2000.593 |
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即便是應該有新增的預算去改變電腦系統我覺得這件事情都應該做尤其是公部門帶頭之後私部門才會跟著做這是第一件事情第二件事情姓名對我們公開來講還有什麼很快會立刻遇到的問題隱私權保障 |
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2001.334 |
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2024.738 |
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不讓你和我如果被秀上去在不管是看病名單或學校公布欄或任何其他地方要有姓名的隱私保障的時候我們是什麼我說書圈會嘛或者是書橋圈嘛你是林圈倉嘛或者是之類的但我的孩子呢我的孩子就是這樣啊全部的人有誰不知道這個是這個是我的小孩對不對那看醫生看病的時候誰不知道這個是這個 |
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2031.004 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
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二、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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我完全同意,所以剛剛委員提到的這個問題,當然這個涉及個資的部分,不完全是內政部,不過委員提到這個問題,內政部願意來跟找這部分的討論。是,其實後來我跟學校溝通,學校就會直接把後面直接去掉嘛。是。 |
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對,我覺得這是一個觀念,那只有公部門率先帶頭實施之後,那社會才會上行下效。所以今天替我特別利用這個時間,藉由部長的回答,在讓各界知道我們有這樣的問題,也知道很感謝政府是肯定的態度。是,全力支持。好,非常謝謝這個阿美族的媳婦喬惠,然後阿美族的媽媽喬惠。 |
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阿美族小孩的媽媽我們希望今天大家在這邊討論這個問題大家都很肯定希望在實務上面真的能夠來落實好不好繼續我們請張宏路委員來質詢我請部長跟副主委我們有請林部長跟古仲副主委謝謝 |
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部長我到剛剛才知道原來我的原住民的名字跟你是一模一樣因為以前我在當民政局長的時候這是我業務他們也幫我取個名字然後結果是跟你一樣不過今天我相信很多應該不同一個媽媽 |
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因為我們新北有很多原住民的朋友所以沒關係所以就是有緣那其實今天這個我看姓名應該很多的立委的同仁都會問我就問一個比較另外的事情 |
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這個副主委還有部長其實我之前就一直關心啊這個像我們很多的這個原住民族的朋友他都是在當警察的對不對那我們那時候有說如果警察取得族語認證那會有族語認證的話原鄉有出缺會講族語者有比較有機會回到原鄉嘛那時候你們兩個部會啊有說要協調 |
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那我不知道目前的進度是如何?這個應該是原民會你們主動協調的我們時間暫停一下 |
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委員是不是這個部分因為今天警政署沒有來最新的一個進度是不是榮會後再跟你做報告好沒有關係請問一下園民會知不知道這件事情跟委員報告我想這個委員關心多年那這個部分我們有跟時間可以繼續了我不要佔用人家時間有跟警政署協調但是現在還沒有定案那原則上我們是希望就是針對他的恢復總統名字或是他的主委能力我們能夠在他的這個簽調上能夠有 |
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對對對我知道我們那時候就是說他有恢復他的傳統名字然後主語認證所以有傳統名字跟今天有有點像我才問你們原民會的嘛那原民會你們現在我只是想要說有沒有去做這件事情我們進度有沒有什麼這個副主委應該可以回答啦這個我們有做協調過那現在針對這個部分還沒有定案那我們這個還會再仔細跟警政署做協調 |
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有協調過沒有訂單。 |
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就是足以認證的部分已經可以列入這個簽調的參考那傳統姓名的部分還沒有?以上目前進度是這樣傳統姓名的部分還沒啦我相信今天為什麼要趁這個機會啦我相信部長也在這啦如果你們原民會然後我們他們鼓勵這個原民去認證這些我相信警政署應該也不會去反對吧 |
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委員你剛剛提到有兩個部分第一個是因為他的這個調回原鄉要這個加分的這個問題剛剛副主委大概有提到如果是有取得語言的認證因為這個有一個資格然後另外這個有一個門檻這部分警政署我會回頭再確認不過剛剛原民會這邊聽起來是這部分我們警政署是有把它納入那不過剛剛提到如果說只是改 |
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改築他的原住民的名字回復傳統的姓名的話這部分警政署可能有一些疑慮就是說他可能有一些道德風險在這邊不不不 這兩個條件是都要的 |
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我們那時候講的是兩個條件如果我每個人都去改回去就可以有高積分我覺得這樣也很奇怪我們會後確認完之後再跟委員做回覆好沒關係我只是說這個我已經這個問題我關心很久了所以趁這個機會再問一下好不好好謝謝 |
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好,謝謝黃委員的質詢。繼續就是高金素梅委員要質詢,我請這個建兵委員代理主席,謝謝部長。謝謝,謝謝,我們請高金委員質詢。謝謝主席,有請部長還有股東副主委。請部長還有股東副主委。 |
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三、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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我認為都是立了一個很好的示範然後就讓我們繼續往前走所以相關的部會我希望在今天我們這個條文修正之後能夠落實的來執行然後如果是預算的問題那麼就請預算來編列預算如果是技術性的問題的話我們也請這個副政司能夠跟園民會充分的做好這個平台好嗎 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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在我要審查這個條文之前我必須要跟大家說明一下有關原住民姓名使用的文字我們不會再稱為羅馬拼音因為大家都說原住民的這些看起來像是羅馬拼音事實上我們不叫羅馬拼音了因為呢各族群也就是有16個族群我們有自己的書寫系統 |
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有了,那這個書寫系統我們是不是請古仲稍微簡單跟大家介紹一下。這個書寫系統呢,我們稱為原住民族的文字對不對?就是原住民族文字的書寫系統呢,其實在民國94年,我們已經跟教育部已經會選公告,有41種的語言、語言別。 |
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所以你看到我們今天我們有特別講一下第二條原住民的文字是指用以來請助理再回來這個以記錄原住民語言的書寫系統所以我們已經有文字的書寫系統了所以希望大家不要再誤解然後說原住民的名字的取名的是用羅馬拼音所以可能為了大家學習的方向還蠻多的 |
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所以今天在我的修法版本已經提出了也在質詢之前也跟大家說明希望大家能夠清楚也能夠了解然後繼續來看一下2023年12月18號立法院三讀通過原住民族身份法的修正草案修法之後原住民和非原住民結婚就是我的爸爸跟我媽媽所生的孩子就是我 |
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不要再像以前以前我的名字叫金素梅那我要恢復原住民身份所以我必須要加一個媽媽的姓高所以我叫高金素梅對這是在2023年12月18號之前所以大家會覺得為什麼你以前叫金素梅現在叫高金素梅就是我們還沒有修法所以我們必須要把媽媽的姓放前面才能夠代表我是原住民這是很荒謬的一個認定對吧 |
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但是2023年12月18號修法之後呢就不用了我們就直接可以把這個加原住民的文字的姓名並列就可以取得原住民身份對吧古仲是好所以我今天要跟副主委反映這也也看到了幾個問題就是我辦公室我不知道原民會有沒有這個困擾就是有很多人很想要回復到原住民的名字但是呢他們隨便亂取 |
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而且他們也不清到怎麼取有時候他是布農族他取到阿美族的名字所以在文化認同上面其實是非常混淆的請問原民會你們有什麼樣的方式來解決這個問題我想陳祖剛委員所報告就是這個條文修正之後我們其實也常常收到我們的主人 |
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因為這個主人到都市就業或是就寫之後也長期可能有一些就長期跟部落的連結就比較少了少了以後他們又加上通婚的關係那生子或是孫子之後他們要取名字就找不到他的根源所以我們都會鼓勵他就是要回到他的根源往上緣去追溯就可以追溯到他應有的名字 |
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所以你應該怎麼做不能夠被動式的讓他們因為有很多陳寗所說的他已經在部落很久了他也許是二代了那他根本跟部落沒有連結那當然第一個我們現行就是我們有針對互義政機關我們有做一個恢復傳統姓名的工作指引不過面對現在都市化的一個現行的這個狀況我想我們原民會有責任針對原住民族的姓名 |
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傳統姓名去做一個調查跟整理可以給我們千禧都市的族人做一個依循跟參考不過最重要就是他還是要追溯他本身的族跟他的家族所以你同意我今天的修法嗎方向嗎 |
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關於委員的修法嚴懲喪失可行,不過針對審議的部分可能會有一些難度。有什麼樣的難度?比如說我舉例以我家裡的現況就是有通婚,像布林組跟阿美組通婚,那通婚的結果 |
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像我的外甥他的名字就取他雖然戶籍登記是寫阿美族但是他是取我們布農族的名字因為他們合意去決定的另外一個就是像我們布農族取名像我們家族是名字在前面氏族在後面但是有一個家族像伊斯坦大他們的家族決定他的氏族名要在前面所以他叫伊斯坦大什麼就是這樣所以有很多的狀況可能跟現實 |
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你現在就已經舉了兩個例子了所以事實上原民會你們是有方式去調查跟研究的只是你們可能沒有把它列為這個實務上面的執行方面所以在這邊我要求你兩個月之內跟內政部和戶政司研議你們要提出一些報告好不好 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。 |
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原住民族國家語言發展法第一條已經開宗明義地說原住民族語言是國家的語言,因此我們族人就可以使用原住民族的文字作為姓名的登記。 |
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既然是國家議員為什麼不可以增加單列原住民族文字的選項呢所以我要在這邊請部長還有我們的副主委還有我們的內政部的護政司對不對請你們來尊重一下我們原民會的立場也尊重一下族人立場可以嗎 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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審查委員的名字其實是有意義的。所以在護照上面的使用,字數有沒有限制?技術上有沒有問題? |
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日報告委員目前護照上的登載方式是依據戶籍資料上的登載對所以你的意思說戶籍資料如果改變的話你們外交部的護照上面也會改變是是好這是需不需要需不需要這個預算的編列讓你們的書寫系統來改變這個軟硬體系統都要改然後可能也要周知國外的各政府機關因為會變成跟我們現在出去的版本長得不太一樣對所以怕避免原住民族出去造成困擾到時候可能這個版本也要周知各國 |
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所以今天我們這些版本或是今天修法通過的話,你們就必須要做,對不對?你們沒有意見吧?最後請大家看一下臺北市政府在行政院院會的態度。預期行政院修法支持原住民族單列原住民族文字。所以我也希望中央機關也能夠有這樣的態度。今天看起來大家都是往好的方向。 |
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非常感謝大家是,我跟您報告剛剛我已經非常明確的表示這個中央在政策上我們是支持那也會在執行面上跟相關部會我們來一起討論然後把這個執行面的部分把它完整的一併做處理,謝謝 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員姓名條例部分條文修正草案。 |
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二、審查委員佛長及副主委,在這兩天我們長久以來,看到我們的社會對關注民的關心及付出。因為我認為每一個政策裡面,無分你及我,也無分誰,即使他的作權、他的背景照顧得好,他的管理, |
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一定要保持,所以剛才我們很多董事坐在這裡看到我們今天的交易, |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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報告委員我們呼籲這系統其實我們已經有在研議要緊急板根來因應單列羅馬拼音的事情所以第一階段我們會在5月17號就來緊急板根如果這個過的話我們第一階段就先板根那個部分比如說這個姓名變更登記嘛他的身份證戶口名簿跟戶籍藤本這個我們會在第一階段先緊急板根讓他可以馬上可以登記 |
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後續會陸續配合 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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五月十七日公開公開公開公開公開公開公開 |
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因為我覺得今天的大家的意見應該是沒有什麼會一直關於退縮這個問題。在這方面我覺得要趕緊,因為剛才副主委說有一些問題會存在, |
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我認為這要去克服,因為我認為長久以來我們對於原住民的照顧,說實在我相信大家都有看到,小英政府這中間不可以對原住民的照顧是非常多,尤其原住民的期限在離空一千年, |
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二、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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他們要輸出還是我們政府可以協助他們來補充工資。 |
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我相信現在我們所有政經在外的時候它都有相關規範的一個規定所以原則上應該是照現在的一個規範的一個規定啊,第二,剛才有什麼說我們需要一點點時間剛才有聽到說我們外交部呼叫,該是一回事但是我們要通知、要通告其他的國家這需要一點時間,不然的話,要靠外國 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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在我們的法律當中,可以讓它正確,不只是一天就審查得對。因為我覺得這非常要緊,還有未來,剛才我說的這個費用雖然保證,只有原地安的規則,我們是不是可以演繹一個 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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是否只有我們內政部的部分就是換他的內政部要不然甘民素來一路副主委本身來你們問一下所有的單位我對我們原住民我的資料想問一下不用問了嗎要不然補償咧加數咧這是非常重要所以你要為原住民立法院的權益給你給我維護 |
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我想針對恢復傳統姓名的這個便利性包括規費的部分跟各部會有交代過協調會那有些部會在這部分是還沒有同意不過這個就是我們要努力的方向剛剛委員提的部分我們會用你差不多有多久可以主流給本縣我們大概兩週內就給好我們的執行請請給委員主席拜託一下好謝謝非常謝謝每位委員 |
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審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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好,謝謝主席。我們先請內政部部長。有請林部長。 |
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部長好首先請教一下這個姓名條例啦因為其實在4月1號的時候我就有質詢過了那我那時候質詢說這個我們單列族名的進度如何當時其實我們原民會以這樣主委他有給我一個正面的承諾他是說希望今年有機會先用韓式的方式那也會說會帶回跟部裡來討論 |
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三條條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條條文修正草案案。 |
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在4月1號之後有新的進度那有沒有什麼時候會先把這個函式做出來還是說你們在這個過渡期就是姓名條例修正之後以及所有的技術上克服之前你們這中間有什麼還能做的呢 |
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公務員報告我們內政部在3月28號已經有把這個原名會要函式的文字回給原名會那這個應該這個必須要做一些預告那預告的一個時間可能要請原名會來做說明好那我們請原名會來說明 |
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國中副主委鄭委員報告有關於這個預告的部分我們在4月30號已經預告了那一級預告到5月6號藉此我們會跟內政部來會選來發布解釋令好那聽起來已經是蠻有進度的在5月6號之後就可以有一個相關的發布大概是韓式就可以發布了嗎對韓式之後會公告 |
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好,好,謝謝,謝謝部長,謝謝副主委。那再來我就是要請教一些具體的,因為其實剛剛巧惠委員也有提到說,因為即便我們今天姓名條例通過,那之後二三讀或者是說這個函式下來之後,其實中間還有一些行政作業,那這個行政作業確實是需要一些技術上的 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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有關緊急緊急板根的部分我們已經預作因應可以讓這個姓名條例或者是函式過的時候可以緊急來讓原住民朋友們他們可以來馬上來登記這個部分我們會緊急板根那後續因為牽涉到的一些項目非常的多每一個申請書裡面要讓他單列羅馬拼音的部分 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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對阿可不可以給大家期待一下說我們這整個作業的時程大概什麼時候是跟委員報告因為今天我們在提案這個委員提案在修這個法律那我們之前行政上面我們做了一些準備的工作沒有錯不過這個需要更全面 |
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二、姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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是的,地方聖事也要趕快聖事因為現在法律還沒有通過所以地方包括我們的行政的人員其實他也不熟悉這一塊所以他可能還需要有一些教育訓練等等 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案 |
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那我想問一下請請教一下園民會在這個違憲的公告出來之後你們有沒有開始做相關的準備了目前手上的進度草案在哪裡跟我們報告我們這個已經有先做委託研究跟意見的徵詢那草案我們很快就會在時間內趕快提到院裡面時間內是因為現在已經過了一年半囉 |
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所以你們研究是什麼時候研究出來?大概在8、9月就會提送 |
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所以8、9等於是下個會期你們就會把你們的版本送進來我們就可以把這個釋憲的部分把它修正通過是好那很感謝那目前當然就是希望我們呃園民會可以加速這部分因為其實時間也蠻趕的從2022年那他也是給只有給三年的時間嗎三年希望修正通過那我相信這個也是很多平埔族的原住民希望可以趕快做轉型正義的部分 |
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好那當然最後還是希望說我們內政部在呃就是這整個時程上可以趕快告訴大家具體的時間是什麼這個是大家最想知道的那感謝部里其實都很支持我們單列族民這個可以來通過呃委員跟對不起委員跟你報告一下哈我想我們呃會把堅得到所有的行政機關的部分要處理 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案》案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。 |
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謝謝我們請股仲副主委我們今天今天高金召委特別安排這個姓名條例修正草案的這個會議讓我們所有原住民朋友要 |
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回復他傳統姓名有一個依據。」我覺得這個我們要先感謝除了高金召委之外那伍麗華委員也提出相關的版本那目前為止啦目前為止都是民進黨委員的質詢的質詢其實也都 |
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朝向非常支持的態度。並且一直在幫忙想,到底這個姓名條例修正之後,那內政部、務政司還有多少的單位包含外交部,甚至包含所有的單位,甚至銀行, |
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金管會等等的要做多少的配套才可以符合當我們原住民朋友恢復他的姓名用他原住民語言用羅馬拼音登記在他的身份上的時候其他社會上他所面臨的所有生活必須會碰到的問題都想要做一個討論所以我現在沒有質詢部長所以我請教你你哪一年恢復你的這個 |
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但是還不到現在這麼進步還不到用現在當然要進步到這個羅馬拼音現在你哪一年恢復你古仲這個名字那你叫你古仲這個名字之前呢你有沒有漢漢文的名字好跟委員報告我恢復傳統姓名古仲克勒方安是在民國90年4月27號那4月27號之前我姓何姓何何必問的何 |
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那你民國90年也就是2001年恢復叫古仲之後你在生活上你的你有沒有更換護照或者是你生活上遇到的哪一些問題你覺得可以提出來當然 |
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當時恢復傳統姓名的人是很少所以在國內我們一般社會大眾會把我們當成是非本國籍的這個國民所以有時候到醫院拿健保卡的時候 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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大社會大眾認識臺灣原住民。我們非常支持那我也覺得這是一個非常自信的展現但是我們擔心的是在接下去我們要再進一步的時候我們在生活上所會遇到的問題我現在就請教你嘛除了銀行開戶除了你的護照那有時候甚至可能要到警察局這個警察人員在 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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你會不會擔心有一點遇到會有一點不方便的事情你可以提出來現在提出來原則上因為我改恢復傳統名字很久了所以我說再進一步生活上是用這個那其實就是像我們一般就是傳統姓名恢復之後當然在護照上有時候就因為他會直接把你中文用 |
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| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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三、審查委員會第16期內政委員會第16期內政委員會第17期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會第18期內政委員會 |
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二、審查委員規費部分條文修正草案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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第三個是我們希望恢復傳統姓名能夠便利性稱如王美惠委員提到就是單一窗口的部分其實我們嚴明會也在檢討這個部分因為未來我們也希望我們地方的嚴明單位也能夠配合就是可以成為我們主要恢復傳統姓名的單一窗口未來主人也不要到監理站又到不遵守對這是我們要努力的方向對謝謝謝謝股東副主委我想今天這個 |
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希望這個原民會針對這個姓名條例之後要提出所有的需求面對我們原住民朋友他們如果恢復他們的姓名的話生活上所會碰到的問題我們請內政部一併跟上來一起來一起來讓這個事情更進步謝謝 |
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| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
二、審查委員吳輝道等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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三、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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4559.551 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、姓名條例第三條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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全體委員會第11屆第1會期內政委員會第1屆第2會期內政委員會第3會期內政委員會第4會期內政委員會第5會期內政委員會第6會期內政委員會第7會期內政委員會第8會期內政委員會第9會期內政委員會第10會期內政委員會第11會期內政委員會第11會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期內政委員會第12會期 |
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第2條及第3條及第4條及第5條及第6條及第7條及第8條及第8條及第9條及第10條及第11條及第11條及第12條及第12條及第11條及第12條及第12條及第11條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第11條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及第12條及 |
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我們繼續請張志倫張志倫張志倫提書面報告繼續取徐益臻委員主席是不是請林部長跟園民會副主委我們有請林部長跟股中副主委謝謝 |
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剛剛聽到一些委員質詢聽到您的回覆也是針對這個姓名條例修正的部分您其實是給予全力的支持所以這個部分原則上應該是沒有什麼問題那但是呢我想這個因為有有要針對原住民的這個姓名的更改有很多很多後續我們要來去面對的問題包括說羅馬拼音一般人看到是不是能夠準確的發音 |
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二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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根委員報告。對於大社會對於原住民族文字這個認知或是認識的部分,這是我們菸米會會持續再去做推廣的部分。所以我們在對於護證單位的這個工作呢,我們也訂定一個工作指南給他們做參考。如果我們族人去恢復傳統姓名的話,他們也可以做一些認識跟參考。 |
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對,所以針對戶政還有跟這個民政的部分,這相關的這個,比如說你們大概覺得要多久的時間才能夠處理好這個問題?我個人認為,其實這是一個,這是一個要持續性進行的,其實包括我個人都需要學習,雖然我有阿美族的名字,但是說實在其他語族,我也不會念。 |
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但是我覺得這個就是讓社會有一個這樣子的一個瞭解認識跟認同那這樣子對於我們原住民族的文化跟習俗真的整個大的社會才有辦法彼此瞭解彼此瞭解的時候才不會有有一些這個誤會啊誤解那這個可以促進整個社會的這個和諧 |
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4850.416 |
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我覺得這個是非常重要關鍵的一步那政府機關比如說在我們整個文官的體系裡面我們內政部所俠管的這個系統其實我們要學其實這個可能需要一個比較長的時間但是我認為是說從今年我們就要啟動 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
4916.904 |
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傳統名字拼音系統音譯規範指引。」這個部分我們會把原住民族人的族人名譜會用網路數位化給大社會知道包括也可以有錄音讓一般社會可以在 |
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對,要不然說實在我們拿到您的名片我可能也不會唸所以我覺得這個都需要學習然後另外我剛聽到很多委員都提出一些相關可能延伸的問題那本席這邊是有想到一個您可以看一下就是目前這個台胞證的部分 |
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4945.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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4985.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
內政部應協助處理?謝謝委員提醒這部分可能到時候需要陸委會跟海期會因為這需要協商那我覺得這的確是一個新產生的課題這可能需要這兩個部會來去共同來去幫我們的原住民解決這個問題這個部分謝謝委員因為這不是內政部的選擇範圍不過我們會來跟院來做報告跟反應那另外再請教您就部長您有沒有去過大陸? |
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| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
4993.392 |
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我曾經去過去過所以您也是有台胞症嗎?早就失效了那請問你擔不擔心這個個資的外洩的問題?個資的問題我們自己國內的像數位身份證的暫緩就是因為擔心個資的問題嗎?那比如像這個部分您會不會擔心? |
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| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
5034.89 |
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各支因為你所謂的各支是指的是我大概跟部長報告一下就是說我們現在申請台胞證您知道要附什麼證件嗎因為我已經很久遠了不是很知道我告訴你有身份證護照跟照片這是一般狀況可是有一個很特別的狀況就是在2023年的時候規定雙胞胎一定要有詳細的戶籍藤本 |
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| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
請問部長為什麼這就是要申請胎胞證的話請問大陸怎麼會知道申請人是不是雙胞胎這個我請這個課題我不是很清楚並沒有特別掌握是不是請司長如果他瞭解的話來說明一下 |
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審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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5126.548 |
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非常詳細包括身份證字號、姓名、家庭成員、戶籍跟原住民族身分別所以這個理論上應該是內政部的這個戶證的這個個資那為什麼大陸方面會有這方面的所以我在這邊嚴重的懷疑是不是當時的個資因為洩漏出去所以在2023年這個大陸那邊才會要求雙胞胎也要附上戶籍藤本所以當時的個資的部分外線的部分請問內政部現在 |
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二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
5139.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
5167.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
這個資料並不是,已經查清楚了,法務部也查清楚了,並不是內政部我們的護意證系統直接流出去,也不是遭駭客的入侵。那是什麼樣的狀況?這個他們調查大概有可能,有可能是因為使用護意證的系統在全國有70幾個機關每一年都在使用,所以有可能是從這些使用的機關。所以目前還沒查到是哪一個機關洩漏出去了就對了? |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
5188.192 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
他有一些方向不過那個法務部因為他們還在持續調查所以今天本期是點出這個問題就是說我很訝異說為什麼大陸會知道我們的國人是不是雙胞胎而要求他附上戶籍藤本因為不了解這個個案的一個狀況對可能還是要請你們要查清楚謝謝好謝謝徐立正委員的質詢謝謝部長謝謝國眾副組委繼續我們請黃建斌委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
5204.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
5205.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
有請林部長及國中副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
5215.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
5235.793 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
5240.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
5252.189 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
人口28000多人,佔原住民4.79%。未來這個法通過之後,漁民會這邊有沒有其他作為可以提高這個比例? |
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| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
跟委員報告,我們是持續召開恢復傳統姓名的這個便利措施的協調。那我們也鼓勵我們的地方政府呢,針對不管是恢復傳統姓名的單一窗口或是貴賓的部分來協助。 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
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5300.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
所以在姓名恢復上是有增加增加了好那接下來就是問到一些比較務實的事情像是我們如果新生兒要重新用就是用我們的新的主義的方式命名他或許不會比較大的問題但像假設像本席這樣子本席有原住民身份我要恢復的話他可能問題就會比較多一點包括我從所有的資料都要併根那包括我的結婚證書可能要改這些都要改名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
5301.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
5320.253 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
5322.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
5343.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
公務員報告,確實在實務上,除了你在互證機關恢復傳統姓名之外,你現有的相關的證件,包括駕照、要去檢理照、換的都要換。所以這個就是我們嚴明會針對為什麼我們要持續來推動恢復傳統姓名單一窗口這個工作。當然因為涉及的面很廣,我們要去協調。 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
5344.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
5361.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
本席要說的是說在不同的部會裡面他就要各自去辦理嘛對不對像你互證的跟地證就要分開來辦嘛我們還不包括我們民間比如說我在銀行的存款有什麼資料都要弄嘛那是不是因為這個是考這個是因為我們的整個系統沒有聯動的這個勾結的關係嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
5363.326 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
5384.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
5393.668 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
5410.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
委員跟你報告一下,我來幫委員稍微說一下,因為這個牽扯的範圍會非常非常廣。你想得到的,現在想得到的,或者是可能一時還沒想到的,它會牽扯到所有跟個人身份有關係的一切事宜。 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
5412.046 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
5422.347 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
有無辦法用單一個窗口來申請然後全部點?這個會跟資料的這個系統的嫁接會有關係比如說你說銀行要接到單一個窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
5423.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
5447.364 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
這個可能會有一些困難因為不只是銀行包括剛剛在講我們的地政的系統地政的系統就算他可以接可是他沒有辦法在這個地方重新比如說馬上給你一個這個新的地級的一個藤本或者是房屋的一個所有權的一個藤本因為這個會涉及到人民的財產的這個相關的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
5448.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
5461.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
二條及第三條及第四條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
5464.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
5492.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
申請,然後所有一切的全部通通都馬上改,馬上取得,這個可能需要原民會再進一步跟警官單位來做。我想部長今天很多人提到的就是我們未來都會遇到問題,我們現在可以開始再做準備,不要當法令執行下去之後發現問題更多,這造成我們主任的困擾,這是本席的建議。對,我剛剛在講說希望給我們行政機關一些時間,把這個事情把它做得更完美。 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
5493.057 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
5513.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
謝謝部長,謝謝部長的說明。那部長,接下來我們在委員會要見面時間越來越少了。我已經回覆了我的部會要怎麼開講了,有些要請教有些問題。部長本席支持只要是對人民有利的事,對事情對的事情,我們錢要把它開來,把它取下去。 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
5514.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
5528.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
絕對不要做其他考量只要對民眾好的錢就是要花Just do it所以在這件事底下我們需要追蹤一下一些進度請問部長在去年還在立委選舉的時候部長是不是有到過台東有印象嗎去哪裡台東 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
5533.689 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
5556.504 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
臺東...臺東我一般都是去看災你有沒有印象?鼓勵選舉群本期來提醒一下部長在去年選舉年的時候部長來到臺東也會看到我們的仁愛國小允諾要協助來幫助我們這個學區周邊學童上學的安全要來施作這個環境的改善那本期任何救助是很好的錢就是花在對的地方照顧學童這是對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
5558.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
5577.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
我相信,但是台東不只有那個國小嘛,我相信昨天不是這樣,有的要照顧地方,所以本席是很羨慕有些委員在,像中部委員他們當時在跟國土署來陳情就拿了7000萬來改善這個周邊的學童同學步道,但是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
5603.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
部長,台東是一個窮縣,我們沒有大型企業的機器,我們的稅收較少。部長,為了台東學童的安危,本市要求國土署,是不是可以要求國土署編列額外的補助,針對我們各縣市繳稅平均數之下的縣市,特別像台東縣這樣的縣市,給予更多的經費,來改善校園周邊的交通安全。部長,這樣完成,是不是可以支持我們的國土署的編列? |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
5605.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
5632.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
委員跟你報告因為這會牽扯到整個遊戲就是說整個制度的規則因為現在對地方的補助是依照財政的一個等級那第二個我跟你報告就是說我們我們的經費基本上是充足的因為四年400億一年就有100億那過去執行大概一年最多50幾億所以我們的預算是充足的那第二個還有一個更重要的是這個必須要縣市政府他提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
5632.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
5660.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
他比較提出來,提出來之後國土署才有辦法去做進一步的審查。那未來針對這些,像臺東縣財運不是這麼聰明,署裡面怎麼可以來協助?就只是未來國土署來協助臺東縣,可不可以請部長來協助?我想協助是沒有問題,不過剛剛我一直提到,這個事情,特別是地方的通學環境等等,其實地方政府非常重要。他如果自己很積極,像我以前基隆市,基隆市的財政是全國第二差的,比臺東還差。 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
5662.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
5685.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
對,可是我也可以在8年的時候時間裡面把它做很大的改善,這個是一個資源運用調配的一個問題。至於有必要的案件,我們一定會全力來支持。謝謝部長的請教。謝謝部長的回覆。班主席再給我一點點時間,我要再請教一點,跟學童有關係的事情。學校的安全除了學校在保護以外,另外就是一個我們的地方的村里長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
5686.795 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
5707.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
所以他們除了會當一些志工或是留意我們周邊學校安全以外所以常常我們都會稱他們為土地公、土地婆那當然他們為這個國家付出我們值得來表揚他們也要肯定他們所以居民部長準備要發紅包給我們全國的村里長 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
5708.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
5732.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
年終獎金1.5個月,是這件事情?不是我要發,其實這個是我們從去年的時候就已經開始在做討論,那是考慮到我們的村里長他對於薪水,我們是討論甚至到要不要發薪水的這個問題,但是意見不一,所以我們有共識就是村里長他的一個事務補助費, |
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5733.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
5734.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
乘以1.5個月來當成這個年終的一個慰勞金 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
5749.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
5773.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
這一個案子現在行政院今天的院會正在討論那討論完之後因為他必須要修法會送到大院來做審議那今年來得及完成法律的一個程序的話應該年終的慰勞金應該在明年的時候是有機會可以發放先謝謝部長不過部長我們是要問到縣市面的這條行事中央處理還是地方處理地方政府編列預算 |
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5775.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
5794.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
不可以這樣啦,像台東縣的預算那麼...你知道我們台東縣光是這樣發...今天我抱歉齁,這個時間已經到了,我跟您說明跟報告一下,下下個禮拜,召委就會排這個地方制度法,好不好?謝謝主席但是現在我們很樂於見到行政院有它的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
5795.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
5817.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
最開始是我的版本然後我本來就要排了但是聽到我們的部長還有院長好像都樂觀其成但是最重要的就是你剛才提到的問題這個財政到底是由地方支出還是中央支出還是按照統籌分配款裡面再怎麼樣這個就是我們下個禮拜要討論的部分謝謝趙偉那個趙偉我10秒鐘補充一下因為今天談到援助民主的事情 |
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5824.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
5850.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
剛剛提到的村里長還有包括民意代表部分我們是額外加10%所以原住民族的這個就是說他在原鄉的直轄市議員或者是非直轄市議員的這個鄉鎮村區等等他的這個事務費的一個補助我們是額外加10%就是因為他的幅員廣闊交通不便這部分我沒有考慮進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
5851.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
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好謝謝部長今天先在提前說明我們下下禮拜再見好謝謝謝謝部長謝謝部主委謝謝主席謝謝菅兵委員謝謝繼續我們請蔓玉珍委員來質詢謝謝謝謝主席有請部長有請林部長謝謝 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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一收屋就是持交屋的糾紛不斷一堆一收屋無法完工建商也落跑了所以爛泥屋的案件內政部是否有掌握現行各大小的建商營業行行保障消費者的權益 |
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| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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市場上基本上北中南都還算穩定而且市況都還算不錯去年最主要是因為在年初的時候平均地權條例上路那中南部有一些中小型的建商他們也有感受到壓力不過在下半年的時候有新的一些措施推出所以並沒有現在並沒有聽到有這樣子的一個聲音基本上整個市場算是穩定而且是 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。七、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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這個可以從這個消費者的一個權益保障的一個措施來做處理對但是就是因為一收屋在發燒還有就是要動工都是地方政府在管所以我們就看到說如果是說我們在中央是不是像說有一個統籌 |
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就像我們的新北市有這個一收屋的施工進度查詢相關的平台的話這樣子的話才會說公告相關的建築還有營造營造業的管理還有應用這樣讓消費者才會知道說那個施工的進度因為這樣子他們求助無門的話就 |
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| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。 |
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這是地方政府該做的事情對但是不是每個地方政府都有目前就是看到新北市其他縣市是沒有的所以我們希望說是不是我們中央是不是要求或者是統一有一個這樣子的 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。七、審查委員鄭 |
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6125.51 |
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6129.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
6138.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
日期項目審核的進度等等建造的資訊。」我瞭解的是建商他們應該是線上其實都可以查得到建造到底審到什麼程度這個是查得到的是說我們是在每一個縣市政府都有這樣子像我們新北市的話是說我們民眾比較便民比較查得到希望我們中央如果是可以的話就是這個措施或者這樣平台 |
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| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
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6198.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
第2次全體委員會第1次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會第2次全體委員會 |
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| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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只有56.5和一般生就是差距33.6個百分點顯示原住民的高等教育就支援獲得上跟一般的比較差有差距請教一下如何鼓勵和支持更多的原住民族進入高等教育的階段學習還有就是廣大高教的公共測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
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姓名條例第三條及第二條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
6294.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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是的,因為我們是每一個人都說我們原住民有很多補助,但是有很多原住民的朋友說懂的人就有申請到,不懂的人就申請不到了,就是照顧懂的人,因為我在靜怡大學有很多同學都是原住民, |
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所以希望說我們我們研民會這邊的話就是把這個資訊還有在偏鄉的要如何就是讓大家了解怎麼去申請不要說我們我們就預算很多讓補助我們的原住民讓我們原住民的朋友 |
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他們想要去讀書沒有的話為什麼的比例差那麼多是因為我們宣傳不夠或者輔導不夠讓大家不知道說我們是可以去有這樣子的申請是的我想我們在很多的大專業校裡面都有設置原住民主教育資源中心那教育資源中心都會協助我們原住民學生相關的權利包括不管是學業上的或是他在社會層面上那至於委員提到可能宣導不足的部分我們會持續結合地方政府做宣導 |
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| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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6406.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
6421.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具、「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具、「姓名條例第二條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
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三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
6470.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
親水子名字隨兒子及長子結婚的文化習俗改名。所以在這個地方這個部分應該也是要放寬給原住民他們有多重的選擇。請部長來做說明一下好不好。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
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連兒子結婚我還聽原住民他們所講的因為改名的次數真的會非常多所以也不要說把他綁住是是是好那我們副主委先請回好了好副主委好那我請部長部長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
6540.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
我們過去一些公共工程他們遇到的問題部長因為我們也有做過去爆發他們種機械、吊車 |
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| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
6557.915 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
6575.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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我之前我自己也有親自召開過會議那他有分成幾個部分第一個是現在在有業者擔心在國土計劃法實施之後那現況使用的這些地方會不會受到影響那答案是基本上是不會的但是也的確像你剛剛所提到的我們的這些這些建築機具的這些業者他需要一個能夠 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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但是我印象應該記得有一到兩個頁別他是有牌照那有牌照就是交通部監管監理單位的這個管轄的一個範圍那這部分是不是要納入剛剛在提到的我們內政部正在研議的 |
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建築的重機械所可以臨時停放的這些場所。現在我們請工會回去他們去把這些需要這些不同的業別的意見再重新收攏那我們會內政部會再進一步跟工會召開會議 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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所以我們的立場跟態度是正面的,應該要給這些業者一個合法可以擬放擬具的一個空間跟場所。因為你說中藝社這個業者是全國性,全國真的沒有一個地方是有個法規,法規來輔導。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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非常謝謝吳啓明召委的質詢謝謝部長謝謝繼續我們請劉徐廷委員質詢謝謝主席部長和副政司長有請有請部長跟代理副政司長謝謝委員好 |
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部長早安,這個有關於本今天的會議討論姓名條例的修法,那麼針對原住民單列傳統姓名或名字,因為有些原住民是沒有姓氏的概念的,這個內政部表示除了法律用字上代斟酌之外,其餘部分予以尊重,應該是沒有什麼爭議性,那我們希望盡快來做通過。 |
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修法的重點在於確認原住民可以用原住民的文字目前是用羅馬拼音的方式來呈現單列所謂的傳統姓名或名字也就是說不強制就一定要漢字跟這個傳統姓名一起的一個方式那按照憲法條文第10條憲法法庭的判決意旨 |
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傳統姓名是原住民族彰顯族群認同的特別權利那麼原住民語言發展法也明定原住民族語言現在是我們的國家語言數學系統羅馬拼音是原住民族的文字所以這個單列羅馬拼音為傳統姓名對於原民的姓名權跟人格權以及國家語言平等權具有高度的相關性而且有絕對的這個正當性那麼 |
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我們在此要花一點點時間向很多倡議者甚至用過打官司的方式來爭取這個姓名條例的通過我們在此對他們致敬有非常多那其實我有一點點小遺憾因為這個羅馬拼音的部分我沒有辦法精準的來發音這也跟我們待會的題目有關但不管怎麼樣我們把它列出來像這些這個 |
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單列傳統姓名的原住民朋友致敬,他們用法律的方式爭取自己的權益,才有了今天姓名條例的修正。好,那問題來了,這個修法過後勢必有更多的原住民朋友會用羅馬拼音來單列他的這個姓名,那部長這個怎麼來念? |
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委員跟你報告這個就是我剛剛也有回答其他委員這個我們大家必須一起共同的來學習所以未來包括在行政系統裡面或者是包括在我們所有的大社會的平台裡面這個其實我覺得這個是非常重要的一步因為這個對於促進族群之間的彼此認識跟了解包括文化跟習俗有非常正面的一個這個 |
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這位後面的這個救援已經出現了來我們請圓明會副主委 |
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這就是學習的機會啦本席也要學習一下要不然我也唸不清楚不太好意思謝謝委員這是我的名字部長搞了方案搞了方案好謝謝副主委喔這個就是我今天要提這個質詢的蠻重要的一個問題今天我想修法應該會很順利來通過但我希望說內政部就不要為得不足也就是說修法通過之後我們應該也有一點點推廣的義務讓更多的一般人我想要去了解想要去學習想要精準的發音的時候能有一個好的平台 |
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那以部長、副政司長目前的了解,如果我要精準的,我現在只能看到文字,我想要精準的讀出他的發音的時候,我應該上哪裡去查詢呢? |
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委員我跟您報告現在我們原民會他們第一個當然有原住民的書寫系統第二個是他們也針對這些名稱或者說包括這個怎麼樣念或者因為有不同的族語有16族那他們有一個比如說這個比如說點進去會有語音會有聲音出來現在這個平台位置在哪裡這個請原民會來解說明一下 |
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各委員報告其實現在我們有一個主委的平台叫做主委一樂園主委一樂園這部分是有那不過我們在今年也會跟研議會來推動這個原住民族人名譜那我們這個名譜就是有原住民族的各樣的名字那包括我們現在請我們的語推組織能夠來錄音像剛剛我念就是讓這個音標準的音可以錄進去 |
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未來我們也會建置這個原住民傳統姓名的平臺讓大社會可以在這個平臺上去點選有姓名條例通過之後就把這個精準發音的這個平臺建立起來而且它要有一定的義達性它不要再藏在 |
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官方網站的某一個角落一般人找不到那比較可惜這應該被彰顯這是本席的想法本席的名字叫劉許廷中間常常被他唸錯所以我很多時候可以感同身受所以說這部分我們希望內政部就是把這個政策把它貫徹完畢好謝謝副主委最後一點點時間這個我要借今天剛好在討論姓名難不免也要跟互證有一點關係所以這件事情我要請互證司長來做一下回答 |
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本期過去都有發現你們都會出這個報告然後還做這個國人的姓名統計這個國人諜制的排行榜冠軍是誰?司長 |
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我們是今年有特別針對疊字做一個統計啦那每年以前是每兩年做一次的那個姓名統計分析這個統計當然很有意思啦也很有趣冰冰嘛我記得男生第一名排名是叫冰冰但看到這個事情本席從基層出生啦我不免有一點點這個為副政司捏一把冷汗為什麼呢因為本席的選區歸山啦是一個標準的生活圈非常分散的地方 |
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所以我們很多不同的生活圈其實中間要這個開車週車勞頓15分鐘20分鐘的可能性都有所以大家要到龜山戶政事務所去辦公的時候其實非常麻煩的一件事所以本期在做議員的時候很多人希望說我們不同的生活圈可以有越來越多的戶政變名窗口可是戶政變名窗口在推動的時候我們在地方聽到了反應第二叫戶政基層人力不足 |
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二、設備不足。我現在林口台地上有很多新簽入的我為了要辦簽入要拿身份證簽戶籍我要跑到山下的護證事務所我上面要開窗口他說即便有開窗口他因為沒有設備所以沒有辦法印發身份證所以他其實窗口的這個服務的效應是打了很大的折扣的我看到護證中央你有這個人力有這個資源這個時間去調查名字疊字誰最多可是地方的這些問題沒有被突兀我覺得是有點可惜的 |
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是不是請內政部做一下盤點跟檢討就是說地方的互證的資源我們怎麼樣從中間來給予多一點的這個資源讓地方互證的辨明可以更完善委員我跟您報告不是我們互證私人很多是因為這個其實從我們的電腦系統裡面就可以去做一些調查跟分析那第二個互證系統在地方的話是屬於地方政府的一個權責要設幾個互證事務所這個縣市政府自己就可以決定 |
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對他現在是有窗口但相對來講是人力那我覺得人力相對來講好調度因為現在資訊化的時代很多東西可以從資訊化的界面去整合但設備的部分這我們希望中央可以提供一定的資源設備應該是沒有問題人力的部分縣市政府自己可以去調配 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具 |
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非常謝謝有請委員的質詢謝謝部長謝謝我們繼續請鄭天財委員鄭天財委員您的名字是Sra Kacaw對吧好我們請Sra Kacaw委員主席各位委員有請部長還有股仲副主委有請部長還有股仲副主委謝謝 |
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委員好。我們在去年針對這個姓名條例112年臺北高等行政法院的判決這個判決非常非常的重要而之所以可以被判決原住民會勝訴就是因為前面的第一個姓名條例 |
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我在當公務員的時候我還是處長的時候就協調就拜託甚至拜託立法委員把這個傳統名字可以用羅馬拼音這是第一步這我當處長的時候然後我當立委之後原住民族語言發展法我堅持第一條的第一計劃原住民族的語言是 |
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國家的語言。」這個判決基本上很重要的就是原住民族的語言是國家的語言這個臺北高等行政法院的判決或者是今年的臺北市的相關的判決所以我講這個部分也是講給股仲講給我們的公務人員對的 |
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應該的就要堅持有了這個判決之後部長當時我就拜託部長就透過解釋對不對透過解釋但是沒有解釋因為解釋很多案例後來你們解釋那個亞美族可以不受一次的限制對不對 |
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已經有了判決可以透過解釋因為這個也是一個立法的技術原住民族基本法30條本來只有一項我們增加我們在立法院原住民的立委給他增加了第二項可以透過解釋依原住民族基本法的原則去解釋好現在 |
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這個完了之後也這麼久了113年1月11號臺北高等行政法院又做了判決所以這個部分對政府機關來講可以做的應該趕快做所以這樣的一個情形之下所以今天審查要謝謝召委安排來審查希望 |
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內政部及相關部會給予最大的支持。」這裡面有一些到底要用這個臺灣原住民族還是臺灣原住民這個部分因為臺灣原住民族才是一個正式的我們就把它完整性把它納入進去那傳統名字傳統姓名事實上 |
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我們原住民就是名字而已,原住民身份法就是用名字。原住民身份法我也是當處長的時候提出來的。當初在行政院開會的時候到底要用姓名還是名字,我堅持用名字。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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所以不是只有針對原住民所以為什麼姓名的條例一開始原來的條文也要用羅馬拼音是考慮到除了原住民之外還有其他的少數民族所以我們兩個可以都一起放不排斥所以這個部分也要跟 |
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部長還有副政司,你們在考量這些我們所提的版本的文字或是它用詞,我們都有,我啦,最起碼我啦,我都有去做相關的考量。部長,因為你們今天的報告裡面有一些意見,可以表達一下嗎? |
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委員基本上這個我們幾個提案我們其實基本上都是尊重然後也支持相關的一個提案不過你剛剛特別提到的有關於臺灣原住民修正為臺灣原住民族的部分那我們這部分我們也是尊重跟支持那另外是你有提到包括姓名姓氏跟這個姓名姓氏及名字的部分那因為這個姓名條例它是一個比較 |
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7578.67 |
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7594.563 |
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審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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我們已經習慣姓名就是姓跟名在一起了所以為什麼原住民身份法就不寫姓名就是寫傳統名字有他的那個根據的所以我們在主條的時候可以再做討論是謝謝謝謝非常謝謝鄭天財委員長期來對原住民法律案的那個努力非常謝謝你謝謝 |
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7650.185 |
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順便跟大家說明一下,高金素梅能夠回復原住民及泰雅族的身份,再次謝謝鄭天財委員當時在座公務人員的時候提醒了我們的早委,提醒了我們的主委,所以高金素梅得以回復泰雅族的身份,謝謝你。我們一直在往這一條路努力邁進,謝謝。我們繼續請丁學忠委員來質詢。 |
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感謝主席,各位委員同仁,我請部長。有請部長 |
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7674.544 |
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在去年,我們有發生一場火災,損失了四位消防人員。當時他們就組織起來,要求政府有三個訴求,顧職安、要公安組、公會。 |
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7708.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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7714.143 |
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7728.708 |
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要為提升他們的團體權益,我們要來逐步增加團體協會的權利,增加提高消防員的安全保障這些要求。目前的進度是怎樣? |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
7754.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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7760.52 |
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7780.311 |
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團體的一個組成,這一部分也已經做了處理,以上簡單跟你做說明。對,消防員他雖然是公務人員,他其實他跟一般的公務人員不同,一般的公務人員加這個反攻器,但是他們有工,他們處理就是用姓名來保護我們。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
7794.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。七、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。八、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〉案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
7828.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
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的狀況下執行情務發生的一些危險可以除罪化。」這也是他們也在期待說我們政府可以重視這個問題。是。對啊齁。啊,剛才齁,我剛好突然說是啦,也聽到我們那個中華的代表會客廳來給我在建議啦,說我們現在有 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
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針對里長的這個年終慰問金有編列這個預算。感謝說照顧到地方里長,但是代表行議員,我們現在針對議員的這個事務費,我們認為議員的過分是九千提供兩萬, |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第〉二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第 |
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7912.098 |
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針對好幾個部分,包括直轄市的議員,非直轄市議員,另外村里長,另外就是還有包括鄉鎮市區民代表的部分。你剛才提到應該是衛民服務費,不是補助費,它是衛民服務費。我們的版本原本他們現行是大概每個月3000元,那我們是著以調升,現在我們的版本是調高到5000元。 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
三、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第五條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及第十條及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
8016.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第〉二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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二、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
部長好副主委好但是我還是要講一下我的族語因為我們萬山是兵為羽族這個語言很少人會講藉著立法院的質詢台我希望把這個聲音能夠讓大家聽到 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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我那個時候就是提到原住民要的反歧視法或族群平等法是不是可以請你來支持你當時非常肯定的說今年2024年院版一定會拿出來所以我在這邊非常感謝那我也要讓您了解關於我們的單列族與姓名我過去在內政委員會歷經11次這個主題的一個質詢 |
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那麼一直到去年選舉期間大家都很忙那個時候是我們的次長那我還是質詢這個問題當時說要一步一步設法把它完成那我是說不要一步一步啦後來12月11號去年12月11號是您來備詢那您很肯定的說同意支持 |
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只是很可惜,到下午的審查的時候,怎麼又變成沒成功,內政部原民會沒有予以同意。」所以我今天才說非常感謝趙偉今天又再次排審。那過去我每次問的時候大概是兩個問題。第一個問題就是老師回答說,哎呀羅馬拼音國人認識不足啦。那我們說都已經在雙語化,我們的孩子從國小就學英文。 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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8240.843 |
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所以今天又來到這裡2024年5月請問部長請問人民會副主委我們又再度提出這樣的一個排審的版本那審查的時候部長您會支持嗎我剛剛已經一再的說明也在我們的書面報告裡面也提到 |
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8262.892 |
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我們支持而且贊成這樣子的一個主張因為我個人也一直強調其實這是一個讓族群之間能夠平等然後大家可以更進一步彼此認識瞭解因為這樣子才可以消除一切的歧視或者是說消除一切的誤解 |
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8278.227 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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8287.456 |
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8303.031 |
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二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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8309.917 |
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8328.754 |
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其實16個族群其實他被命名的方式被改的方式都不一樣那以我自己部落來講我的祖父他們家有6個兄弟姊妹被冠上6個不同的姓所以這個就是我講的我們就失去了我們的族譜 |
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8334.004 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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8360.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
11個字的議員。」所以這個部分我們很高興今天聽到我們終於可以回復我們單列族名那在這個過程當中我覺得最重要的是因為國家語言發展法通過之後已經肯認我們的原住民族文字所以我們有權利做這樣的一個要求但是我這個地方還是要提醒一件事我要提醒什麼呢部長 |
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更名跟回覆是一樣的事情嗎?我要回覆我的姓名跟我改名是一樣的事情嗎? |
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8420.231 |
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這個當然是不一樣對那很好因為以我們原名會有一個處長叫羅文明那這是他的漢名漢字那他改名叫賀路基佑但是呢他又再改了一次假設叫羅賀路基佑然後賀路基佑 |
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8438.73 |
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現在我們通過了之後如果按照我們現在的姓名條例現行條文第一條第二項是均以一次為限所以我在這邊要請教部長跟副主委就是說單列族名是否視為回復傳統姓名那您剛才已經說不一樣 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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在更名,所以我在這個地方就是特別談我有做修正動議就是希望能夠幫助他們免於這樣因為連我們的之前處理亞美族達物族他都已經可以申請改名無次數限制了所以這個部分我要特別做一個提醒那最後一個主席再給我問一個問題因為我剛剛有講啦過去我有提醒 |
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就是內政部也回覆我了說會編列經費去處理這些資訊中心的護證師的移民署的地政司整個系統那麼就是當時是說要請原民會編啦已經過了兩年我想問原民會你們經費編列跟辦理的情形然後也要問內政部修法之後各部會小管登記文件能不能夠同時的搭配上路 |
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委員你剛剛是不是回到你剛剛簡報的前面的那一張圖對我想你提到的在前面在前面在前面就是剛剛第一個那個姓名OK剛剛那個下一頁 |
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8531.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
8534.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
委員提到單列族名是否可以視為回復傳統姓名?是否還能登記改名?是否還能登記改名? |
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| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
在執行面上我們內政部所轄管的部分我們已經做了相關的一個行政的一個討論所以在互譯證的部分我們這個是欄位各方面我們已經做了準備沒有問題但是這個牽扯到的這個面向可能還不只是包括身份證或者說包括戶證、地證、移民的這些部分它可能還會包括像外交部還有交通部的駕照 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
8581.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。 |
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其他的部會可能沒有,我們的部分是把這個軟硬體做了一些改善,但這個需要時間再進一步跟各部會、跨部會的一個協調。這個到時候我也會跟院來做報告。謝謝部長。副主委,兩年了。我想這個部分有關於系統更改需求的經費,我們在110年8月、111年8月有召開各部會的協商。那大概整體中央部會所需的經費大概兩億一千多萬。 |
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其中內政部就大概跟部長講大概有1億多所以其他部會都即使經費都蠻少所以我們是協調是由各部會針對這個系統我們是希望同步上路啊就是修法通過之後我們希望同步上路我想在這個地方特別再一次謝謝昭緯也謝謝部長謝謝袁銘慧謝謝好 謝謝災災委員的這個質詢謝謝部長謝謝股東副主委待會我有一些附帶決議也希望他們能夠來解決處理這個事情 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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8694.1 |
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登記發言的委員除了不在場者之外,其餘都已經發言完畢,尋答結束。委員徐欣盈、張志倫所提的書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報。書面質詢和未及答覆的部分,請相關單位在一週之內以書面答覆並複製本會。報告委員會,我們現在就進行法案的審查,請宣讀討論事項,所有版本還有條文,或者是修正動議還有附帶決議,請一併宣讀,宣讀完畢之後我們再進行協商。 |
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第一條委員高金素梅等24人提案。第二項前段之臺灣原住民文字修正為臺灣原住民族,增訂第三項,前項臺灣原住民傳統姓名之文化灌輸其調查確認內涵意義、運鏡基準審核程序及其他應遵行事項之辦法,由中央原住民族主管機關定之。原第三四五項分別一列為第四五六項,其餘同線性條文。 |
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8740.283 |
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為鄭天財等21人提案,替上修正為臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族之姓名登記,以其文化慣俗為之,其以依漢人姓名登記者得申請回覆其傳統名字或姓名,回覆傳統名字或姓名者得申請回覆原有漢人姓名但均以一次違憲,其與同性行條文。 |
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8770.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
第二條委員高金素梅等24人提案。第一項後段增訂但原住民依其文化慣俗登記傳統姓名者,得使用原住民族文字,其餘同線型條文。委員鄭天財等21人提案。增訂第三項,臺灣原住民族之傳統名字得使用羅馬拼音登記不受前兩項規定之限制,其餘同線型條文。委員伍麗華等16人提案。增訂第三項,臺灣原住民之傳統姓名得使用羅馬拼音或原住民族文字登記不受前二項之限制,其餘同線型條文。 |
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第四條委員高金素梅等24人提案。第一項修正為臺灣原住民及其他少數民族之中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名均得以原住民族文字單列或並列登記,不受第一條第一項規定之限制,其餘同現行條文。委員鄭天財等21人提案。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
8815.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
第一項修正為臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族之中文傳統名字和姓名或漢人姓名均得以傳統名字之羅馬拼音並列登記不受第一條第一項規定之限制其餘同現行條文。委員伍麗華等16人提案第一項修正為臺灣原住民及其他少數民族之中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名均得以傳統姓名之羅馬拼音或原住民族文字並列登記不受第一條第一項規定之限制其餘同現行條文。 |
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第八條委員高金素梅等24人提案將第一項第三款致臺灣原住民文字修正為臺灣原住民族其餘同線型條文委員鄭天財等21人提案同委員高金素梅等24人提案第九條委員鄭天財等21人提案增訂第一項第七款七、臺灣原住民族基於文化慣俗其餘同線型條文 |
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附帶決議一,為提升原住民族文化認同有助於傳承各族之命名文化與制度,亦符合原住民族人長期之期待,故修正《姓名條例》有關原住民族文字姓名登記制度,為達成上開目的,必領原住民未來使用原住民族文字登記姓名。請內政部於《姓名條例》修正通過後一個月內,邀集相關部會研議下列事項。 |
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並於前開法案通過三個月內提出執行方案的書面報告,送交立法院內政委員會。一、各機關姓名等系統同步更新。二、經互證系統等記傳統姓名後,互譯證系統同步勾結各機關姓名系統並更正姓名的機制。提案人委員高金素梅等10人。 |
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8909.118 |
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福袋決議二,原住民族傳統姓名的制度存在著傳承原住民族各族文化之重要任務。為達成上開任務,請原住民族委員會應與姓名條例修正通過6個月內辦理完成之事項,如列如下。一、原住民族各族傳統姓名跟名字的調查確認與彙整。二、原住民族傳統名字的認定基準與機制。三、前開項目的指引手冊等相關資料。四、請人民會會同內政部研議辦理的單一窗口。 |
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免徵歸非的規劃方案。」提案人委員高金素梅等10人。附帶決議三、本次《姓名條例修正》通過後,請原住民族委員會於兩週內提出《依應原住民身份法》第三條修正後,產生傳統名字、命名爭議的具體改善方案。提案人委員高金素梅等3人。 |
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二、姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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8949.438 |
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8952.6 |
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兩個修正動議還是一個有一個修正動議跟附帶決議嗎是不是還是兩個修正動議三個我們今天好我們也也也也也那個宣讀一下修正動議 |
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修正動議一第二項修正為第一條第二項修正為臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族之傳統姓名以其文化冠俗為之。請以一漢人姓名登記者得申請回復傳統姓名回復傳統姓名者得申請回復原有漢人姓名但均以三次違憲提案人王美惠委員等4人修正動議二 |
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9030.334 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
第一條增訂第三項前向臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族之出生登記及出社戶及登記以傳統姓名登記者得申請變更為漢人姓名,變更為漢人姓名者得申請回復傳統姓名,但均以一次違憲。第九條 |
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9033.157 |
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9060.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
增訂第7款,臺灣原住民已登記中文傳統姓名或中文傳統姓名已並列登記原住民族文字者,首次改名單列原住民族文字。提案人委員王美惠等4人。好,謝謝。我們現在就開始來協商。我們來看一下第一條。 |
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9064.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
9068.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
9084.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
9109.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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9115.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
9140.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
9155.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
9178.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
二、姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
9184.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
9200.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
二、姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
9210.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
9220.057 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
全體委員會第11屆第1會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
9226.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
9251.149 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
二、姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
9264.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
9293.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
9294.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
9323.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
9328.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
9333.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
9340.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
9364.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahoecahe等16人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
9371.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
9392.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
9393.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
9417.272 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
9417.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
9438.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
9441.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
9461.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第3會期內政委員會及第4會期內政委員會及第5會期內政委員會及第6會期內政委員會及第7會期內政委員會及第8會期內政委員會及第8會期內政委員會及第9會期內政委員會及第10會期內政委員會及第10會期內政委員會及第11會期內政委員會及第11會期內政委員會及第12會期內政委員會及第12會期內政委員會及第13會期內政委員會及第13會期內政委員會及第14會期內政委員會及第14會期內政委員會及第15會期內政委員會及第16會期內政委 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
9467.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
9484.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
9486.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
9510.787 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員� |
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9511.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
9515.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
二、審查委員王美惠委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
9540.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
9543.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
黃婕委員也有提第一條的修正動議。 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
9569.173 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
好 我們請伍麗華委員好 謝謝這個第一條的部分其實剛才在質詢當中我也有去確認部長也有給予明確的回覆就是回覆傳統姓名包含申請單列族名 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
9570.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
9596.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
那麼剛才的回覆有更積極我的版本原本是寫說均以三次為限因為考量到姓名橫屏啦跟一般的那個國民的一個權利那但是剛才部長的回覆是有提到因為我們舉亞美族的例子齁不限次數那部長是有提到說不限次數所以我大概就是做這樣的一個說明然後看看大家的意見謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
9599.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
9619.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及 |
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9620.851 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
9624.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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9639.698 |
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9652.989 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
傳統名字改為漢人姓名漢人姓名改為傳統名字是針對這個部分如果要講亞美族的話就是要放在第8條我同意鄭天財委員的說明等一下黃婕委員有舉手我們請黃婕委員謝謝 |
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好謝謝那我講一下我們這個修正動議其實是因應剛剛巧惠委員他質詢的時候有提到說如果他出生的時候他是用原住民族或是其他少數民族的出生登記或者是出社的戶籍登記 |
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一開始是這樣但是沒有一個方式是他後來想要申請變更為漢人姓名的話要怎麼處理所以我希望在這邊加一條加一項說前向臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族之出生登記及出社戶籍登記以傳統姓名登記者得申請變更為漢人姓名變更為漢人姓名者得申請回復傳統姓名但均以一次違憲這樣子的 |
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一項才可以更完整地保障他們的姓名權。那如果有需要的話也可以請互證單位來做補充說明這樣的可行性。謝謝。好,謝謝我們再請伍麗華委員。好,謝謝各位。那個我是要回應剛才鄭天財委員所說的放在第9條後我有看過我同意 |
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9750.25 |
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但是我只是要強調因為兩碼子是因為我第一條這邊只是說要去做一個回復姓名跟更名改名是不同的兩件事那至於那個次數的部分其實第九條我覺得也OK那因為原來這個地方我是寫說三次就是就是把原來的一次寫成三次所以我都可以謝謝 |
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9756.133 |
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好 謝謝伍麗華的補充 順便再請美會委員主席 謝謝 剛才有的說的是我是說以前我們有寫說軍委三次違憲 但我是覺得你說的有限制 |
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9790.787 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、 |
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9823.284 |
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那個是我們傳統名字的部分,是不是請那個內政部這個部長你來補充說明一下。對,我們現行法條裡面的第二項都是以一次為限。我知道我知道我知道。鄭天財委員跟我的版本其實都是按照現行條文啊。 |
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修正條文的部分有提,所以有三次。所以是不是請司長來再說明一下。好,謝謝。剛剛提到的是這個第9條的部分,這個是增訂。現在談的是第一條,第二款均以一次違憲。第一條這邊是以三次,一次違憲。現行條文是以一次違憲。以修三次。 |
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對,她的修正等率說要三次啦。 |
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三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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9907.838 |
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修正動議的第一條第二項還是恢復整合原來的一次違憲。現在司長的補充說明其實剛剛就是鄭天財委員已經說了其實我們放在第9條裡面是比較符合那再一次就是講說他恢復族名可以很多次因為就是跟文化不一樣 |
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他有結婚、沒有結婚、或者是他要在家族……不是家族,就是在第9條裡面其實是有規範的,好不好?所以我們就不予採納修正動議,然後……好,謝謝。第一條的部分我們再來看一下鄭天財委員在第二款裡面,他有特別講請回復其傳統名字,他多了一個名字。 |
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但是在性情條文裡面是傳統姓名請問一下護證師你們有什麼意見嗎?多加一個名字應該沒有問題吧? |
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如果是這樣的,如果考慮是原來現在的姓名條例的話,因為他姓名條例他是一個普通法,普通法的時候他要適用所有的狀況,第三條已經有規定了,姓名包含姓氏跟名字,如果沒有名字的話,他就可以登記原住民的名字,就可以登記名字就可以了,所以如果按照現行的第三條規定,已經可以涵蓋政委員的意見,就是已經包含 |
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名字、傳統名字。我質詢的時候有提到了因為原住民身份法就是寫名字然後如果我們看線型條文的第8條改姓也是可以單獨寫姓然後第9條改名也可以單獨寫名所以沒有關係啊這個 |
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合況原住民身份法已經用傳統名字了就尊重嘛沒什麼大礙好啦 市長我覺得你不用堅持好嘞 七龍委員不好意思喔其實我是支持政委員的看法不過啦原住民族身份法裡面喔因為我們要不要考量原住民族很多的他是沒有姓的 |
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他就是名字這樣傳承的但是他這裡面已經有姓名了你如果要多加一個名字其實因為我們這裡我們今天修的這個法案不是原住民所以這個政委員我是覺得說其實姓名都有了這個兩條法律不一樣 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財 |
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如果剛剛按照齊洛委員的說法,姓跟名其實是可以的,那所以我相信鄭天財委員也就不會堅持一定要把這個傳統姓名,可以吧?好,那所以這樣子,鄭天財委員他已經回答您的問題了,所以沒問題吧?我們就按照先前條文好不好? |
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不修正 |
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第二項的台灣原住民族我多了一個族所以第一條的第二項台灣原住民現行的條文是現行法是沒有族我跟鄭天財委員多加了一個族所以這個沒意見謝謝 |
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然後我們再來看一下第三項第三項呢高金素梅委員我有針對這個就是希望傳統姓名的原住民的傳統姓名的文化慣俗他的調查確認內涵意義認定的基準審核的程序和其他應遵行事項的辦法由中央原住民組主管定之我想這很重要就是剛剛我們說的有很多問題就是說他隨便亂起名 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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第一條按照委員高金素梅等24人的提案。 |
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你的其實跟我我的其實是比較包含在裡面那個黃捷委員他的比較特別他特別他特別照顧這一個如果說他現在是以傳統姓名的人來登記的話他辦他現在是出生登記或出生戶籍登記的時候就已經取用原住民族傳統文字的話或者是傳統姓名的話 |
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10241.071 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
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10265.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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根委報告有關這個第一條第三項的部分如果說用行政機關來去針對援助民主的這個傳統姓名的基準審議的話我覺得這個會有一點問題所以是我的版本是嗎對對對那黃捷委員的版本呢黃捷委員的版本 |
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10305.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
全向臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族的出身登記及出社戶籍登記,以傳統姓名登記者得申請變更為漢人姓名,變更為漢人姓名者得申請回復傳統姓名,但均以疑似違憲。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
10348.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「 |
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10350.819 |
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| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
全項變第二項,以列到第四項。」 |
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10380.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
10403.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
對 對 對 我剛剛就要說對 不好意思那看一下我的版本的那個全向臺灣原住民我只有寫原住民我忘了寫一個族所以就是我們請那個還是要一個族好不好好如果大家就沒意見的話第一條我們就等一下鄭天財有意見 |
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10420.534 |
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沒有啦,你們就是,你剛剛我們在質詢的時候呢,其實我已經提出來了,就是說你們已經有羽髮基金會,你們也都已經去調查所有的灌輸了這些東西,那有什麼困難點? |
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10424.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
10433.682 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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10456.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具 |
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但是我是想說因為以現況來講我們很多原住民族跟原住民族不同族的通婚甚至有一些是跟非原住民結婚之後第三代今年年初才通過的原住民身份法很多原住民的小孩就是恢復就是本來沒有具有原住民身份他現在恢復這個原住民族身份這個很多的名字的這個審議跟基準可能會如果有行政機關去訂可能會有一些問題但是我們可以做 |
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任地一個指引,工作的指引也可以。我是有瞭解到他們的困難,是這樣子,因為 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案案件。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案件。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案件。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案件。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案件。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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三、審查委員鄭天財Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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好,謝謝鄭天財委員,請喬惠委員好,謝謝,那我就附議鄭委員的說法啦那我們知道說主席您的這個提案的版本其實是盡可能要盡善盡美但是確實這個認定基準的部分就如同剛剛鄭委員講的我覺得現在大家在這樣子一個正要轉換在這十幾年、二十年正要一個又重新回復傳統姓名的狀態下 |
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其實那個基準到底是什麼狀態大家都還在拿捏分寸剛剛其實政委員說的欸我們又原住民的傳統名字又有聖經來的又有日本名字的其實我也是有同樣的經歷啊因為我先生的名字龍南伊薩克凡亞斯其實就是啊因為我的公公伊薩克伊薩克是聖經英雄啊然後我們的舅舅叫伊蹦啊也是日本名字啊 |
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所以他在回復傳統姓名的時候我就跟他說那與其與其你一定要挑一個這個傳統姓名的這個名把它放在前面那不如你的原來的漢名龍南也已經用了這麼久了不如你就直接把它放在最前面當你現在的名因為這也是一個時代又是從大家都是最傳統的阿美族本土語一直到漢語一直到外來語一直到日本語到現在是這樣的狀況其實也是時代的彰顯 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案〉案。 |
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好我們這樣子好不好我們的第一條先讓他保留一下我們等一下再討論一下因為我還有很多的問題需要再請圓明慧但是圓明慧您在您的書面報告說沒有什麼意見然後你們就是尊重這一點你現在在幫跟我提出來我實在是有一點的覺得很奇怪好不好我們所以先讓他保留我們繼續齊路委員我先保留沒有意見不過我先提出問題 |
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我請原民會跟內政部你們要考量一下,等一下一起處理 |
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我們原來的現行法這邊寫的是臺灣原住民及其他少數民族之姓名那我們現在我們剛剛就是有變成臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族之姓名登記這我們剛剛大家是說這樣可是像召委的第一條的第三項我們這邊又變成前項臺灣原住民傳統姓名之文化習慣 |
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我已經要多整一個組了我知道我知道所以聽我不是聽我聽我講完一下好不好我們我知道剛剛有在講一個台灣原住民族但是我覺得是在第一條的第二項裡面我們如果要要把它前後條文這樣子能夠比較貫通的話我覺得 |
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第二項的台灣原住民族應該就直接寫原住民族及其他少數民族因為我們這一個法案是給所有的少數民族或什麼都可以適用的我不知道大家這樣會不會覺得奇怪你這樣看起來感覺有點怪怪的 |
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小數民族跟臺灣原住民族可能不太一樣所以對啊不不一樣其實委員對但但我的意思就是說這樣子感覺這個法條前後怪怪我只是覺得法條前後怪怪的就只有這個怪怪因為你還有其他少數民族啊不然你是要把其他少數民族拿掉就不會怪怪的但你其他少數民族都還在 |
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會怪怪的?少數民族其實是在第二項裡面有可是我們這邊是第我對法案的內容沒有意見只是他的文字呈現你這樣子會感覺怪怪的其實不會因為這邊只講的是台灣原住民族的傳統姓名他不是講其他的少數民族對 |
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我是這樣子的說明然後我們先保留下第一條我們再走第二條第二條是高金素梅委員的版本跟鄭天財委員的版本是這樣子我們一樣是使用原住民族文字因為我特別用原住民族文字這樣寫是因為我們的語法法的第二條 |
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其實呢我剛剛已經說明了原住民的文字不是羅馬拼音不是羅馬拼音我們就是按照法律用語在法律上面把它定下來請下原民會主委而副主委對不起副主委你來看一下第二條你有什麼意見 |
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因為大家都一直在講原住民的文字就是用羅馬拼音但是按照現在與法委員會基金會裡面已經把原住民的文字確定用法律用於寫進去所以我們應該不要再用羅馬拼音這樣子的形容詞跟文字在法條上面好不好 |
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沒有意見吧?主席我們現在推動的都是原住民族文字啊對啊,所以你們也是原住民族文字嘛好,請問一下在場的美匯委員主席,在這,我要來講建議考量第二條的實施日期是不是?第二條我有一個附帶決議,美匯委員看一下對 |
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第二條我們只是在這個原住民族文字看一下我的版本就是但原住民族依其文化慣俗登記傳統姓名者得使用原住民族文字這是法律用語但是鄭天財委員的版本是說臺灣原住民族的傳統名字得使用羅馬拼音登記然後包括伍麗華委員的版本也是用羅馬拼音或 |
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原住民族文字登記。」所以我們是不是把它統一就叫做原住民族文字?好,沒有意見的話就按照高金素委員的版本。對,鄭金財委員。他們是建議把它放在第三項,內政部的建議。內政部來,內政部你們說明一下。也就是說我們三個版本,三個版本就是。但是為什麼沒有跟常委提你們的建議啊?這是好奇怪喔。在書面資料裡面。 |
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在他們的書面報告裡面有各位委員報告三個委員都其實都是主張可以單列羅馬平這個我們尊重但是文字單列原住民族文字這個我們都OK那委員三個版本裡面三個呈現方式都不太一樣像高金委員他就是您就是希望把他放在第一項的但書那 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員� |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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其他的文字修正你們來啦好不好OK好來現在我們來看一下第4條第4條呢一樣就是原住民族文字單列大家都同意是要單列嘛對不對然後鄭天財委員的是和伍麗華委員的是中文傳統名這個鄭天財委的名字有把它放在裡面 |
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然後伍麗華委員版本是原住民族文字所以其實是沒有什麼意見請問一下行政部門第4條 |
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跟各位委員報告,就是這裡大概有兩個重點,第一個各委員希望能夠把這個原來的傳統姓名改成中文傳統姓名,因為傳統姓名有兩種,一個是中文的傳統姓名,一種是原住民族文字,所以這裡是在講,第4條是在講並列的事情,所以如果並列的話,應該只有中文傳統姓名 |
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可以並列原住民族文字。」 |
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我是建議說是不是還是用原住民族文字那高金委員的您的這邊有提到這一個原住民族文字單列的這一部分因為這一部分已經在第二條已經有說明已經有列過了所以這個單列可能要刪除以上好請問在場委員有沒有什麼意見沒有好 |
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所以你的建議的版本是?你的文字要怎麼修?我來列一下好了好就是第一個委員都有建議要臺灣原住民加個族所以就是臺灣原住民族之中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名均得以 |
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軍得以傳統姓名之原住民族文字並列登記,其他少數民族之中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名軍得以傳統姓名之羅馬拼音並列登記, |
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具點不受第一條第一項規定之限制具點好謝謝內政部現在的修正條文你們剛剛才送上來以後真的是麻煩一下早一點好不好你們這樣是浪費很多人的時間請問在場的委員們你們同意這個內政部建議修正的條文和說明嗎 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
11340.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
11349.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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11372.568 |
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臺灣原住民族的中文傳統姓名或漢人名字均得以傳統姓名之原住民族文字並列登記,其他少數民族的中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名均得以傳統姓名之羅馬拼音並列登記。 |
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面臨挫把,這樣可以嗎?在場的委員們。請教一下,你們那個其他少數民族,你們是包含了哪一些?是包括新住民嗎?委員會,門帳,門帳。只有門帳嗎?對。那你們跟門帳確認了他們是用羅馬拼音的嗎? |
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已經確認過了,他們有用過,不然的話他們就會像現在他們的文字。好,謝謝大家,我們第4條就按照這個內政部建議的修正條文通過,好不好,謝謝。好,我們現在來看第8條,第8條其實呢,這個,我們就多加了一個台灣原住民族, |
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我跟鄭天財委員的版本都一樣我們讓文字法律文字讓他更明確化好不好接著下來第9條就是鄭天財委員的版本鄭天財委員的版本多了一項對不對 |
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七款臺灣原住民族基於文化灌輸,所以這個部分就會解決了剛剛伍麗華委員所疑慮的問題。請問在場委員有沒有什麼意見? |
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| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
我們剛剛有講那個第9條的修正動議黃捷委員的部分大家看一下臺灣原住民已登記中文傳統姓名或中文傳統姓名已並列登記原住民族文字者首次改名單列原住民族文字那請問一下行政部門對於鄭天財委員的提案的部分然後或者是修正這個黃捷委員的修正動議裡面有什麼樣的意見 |
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| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
11517.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
第七款臺灣原住民已登記中文傳統姓名或中文傳統姓名已並列登記原住民族文字者首次改名單列原住民族文字就是可以再改的意思這個部分跟剛才要還第一條是不是相相關 |
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| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
11573.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
11579.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
11583.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
我希望但那個三次違憲還是要留著比較保險 |
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| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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混為。我稍微在這邊跟大家講一下現在我們鄭天財委員的版本第9條其實呢他講的是原住民族基於文化慣俗他跟幾次是沒有關係的所以如果緩解委員你的修正動力的第9條增加的部分我們回到第一條來談好不好因為我們第一條是被保留的好不好我們就不要浪費大家太多的時間來第9條呢我們就按照委員鄭天財21人提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
11689.404 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
這個要怎麼放?來,來,市長。這個,這個,這個,什麼意見? |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
11693.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
11714.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
11716.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
11734.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
11763.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第五條及第六條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
11764.753 |
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11766.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
11802.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
道歉,吳華委員,第九條已經通過了,好不好?謝謝,沒有限制數。好,謝謝,來。好,第一條的部分,黃姐委員的這個啦,還有我的這個全項,台灣原住民族那個,第四項。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
第7款綜合法律條例部分條文。 |
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那就按照您說的剛剛如果來解決這些問題按照剛剛在附帶決議案因為剛好高金有提一個附帶決議案有提到就是管理原住民族傳統民智的認定基準跟其實希望我們在六個月內完成嘛那我的意思說如果我們可以在時間內完成時間等一下就是說我們如果可以在這個時間內完成的話其實條文就不用再去訂定了 |
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但是如果委員要去訂定這個條文我們是建議是這樣因為我們覺得我們尊重委員的條文內容就是關於台灣民族民族傳統姓名文化灌輸由中央嚴明主管機關調查確認這個OK那他的意涵取用方式及其他陰性注意的指引就是由中央嚴明主管機關會同中央主管機關訂定我們想說這樣去做那至於這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具 |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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文字對第三項的部分按照原明會所提的文字修正。我們讓他通過我就不堅持,但是附帶決議一定要做,可以吧? |
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主席主席主席主席不好意思對你附帶決議我要連署好來來來來來我們謝謝巧慧這個原住民的我們原住民的媳婦當然要好當然來來請大家一起連署好不好大家一起力量大然後我們讓園民會能夠趕快競速來完成好嗎好我們現在回再來回到黃婕委員的部分我們是不是要增訂一下黃婕委員的 |
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不用了,好,謝謝黃捷委員。他不用了啦,好,好。第9條裡面了,剛剛伍麗華委員擔心的部分那個已經在第9條裡面有規範了,對,好不好。 |
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第一條有一個修正動議,但是前項改成第二項,行政部門對黃捷委員的裡面的文字有沒有意見? |
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這個是在講黃泉委員他其實有兩個提案吶吼一個是第二項大家看一下他那個提案裡面吼他有台灣原住第二項他是台灣原住民族這個沒有問題跟委員的一樣 |
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其他少數民族之傳統姓名他把我們原他把現行條文的姓名登記改成傳統姓名OK這個比較明確他就是台灣原住民或其他少數民族的傳統姓名這個明確這個沒有問題 |
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二條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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如果現在只是處理第三項就OK阿如果不處理黃捷委員的第二項我們沒有意見但是因為黃捷委員的這個第二項的文字已經處理好了鄭天才委員的第九條 |
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主席是不是因為黃婕委員有兩個版本所以你們現在在講的其實是有點他有他有兩個他等於是提了兩次所以他的你現在一直在講說他那個第九條已經處理掉了好像是沒有還有一個王美惠的王美惠三次 |
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我來建議我來建議我來拜託所謂的修正動議不是去對照現行條文 |
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修正動議是針對提出的修正條文,其他委員的修正台或行政院版本的修正條文,再提修正動議。 |
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我整理一下好不好黃鐵委員他總共有提了兩次修正動議啦所以我們現在可能有點搞混了這個你們內政部你們應該知道好不好你把它整理一下給大家這樣子才不會這樣子大家在那邊很亂好不好你們先整理這一個那我那個召委好不好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
讓他去你們趕快去用一個讓大家知道好不好這樣我拜託一下這一個好不好那還有召委那他們去處理的時候我們可能要討論一個問題這裡面都沒有施行日期或沒有日出條款我們要處理不是附帶決議這個這個只是六個月內要他們那個嘛但我覺得比較要那個的其實在這個法條裡面 |
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| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
12257.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
我覺得要問你171你可能修171或我們大家有共識我覺得這樣比較好啦你覺得勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
12271.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
12297.577 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
12315.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
12333.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
12334.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
12357.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
12362.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
4項改為第2項改為第4項改為第2項改為第4項 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
12388.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
雖然我們的互證師現在才去印他們的條文的版本,但是現在我們委員們都已經了解嘛,對不對?好,OK,那我們回到那邊去。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
12434.675 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
無認證依項 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
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| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及第五條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
12539.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
12555.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
12580.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
12582.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
12610.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
12612.326 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
12636.624 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
12640.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
他剛剛解釋了啦。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
所以這樣的話會變成是如果我現在是寫龍南以薩克凡亞斯我現在要把那個漢字再拿掉的話就拿不掉因為我已經使用完我的quota就是回復傳統姓名對不對但我記得他早上不是這樣說的他那個地方的話是他是在第九條啦部長在這裡啊來啊直接問啊部長 |
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早上我們在說的那個齁如果他現在就像我先生嘛講直接一點就我先生我們現在通過的版本是我先生叫陳龍南回復成龍南以薩克凡亞斯這樣是用掉了他回復傳統姓名的一次機會已經用掉了嘛那他當現在是有並列龍南以薩克凡亞斯這樣這是他的身份證上面好今天我們通過這個法以後他可以單列原住民族文字了對不對 |
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那他想要再去申請的時候這個是叫做回復傳統姓名還是是有另外的這樣的更名還是是怎麼樣狀況改名改名對啊因為他現在已經是傳統名職 |
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| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
審查委員高金素梅等24人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第 |
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12759.068 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
12784.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
所以最好第一條不要動 我的建議是這樣沒有啦 剛剛有解釋了啦第一條 像現在他剛巧慧早上就我們討論過這個所以這個的話就等於是如果他現在要從並列變成是單列即便他已經用完他回復傳統姓名的狀況的時候他現在就等於是使用第九條的新增第七款 |
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| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
第七款來說這個是不限制台灣原住民族基於文化慣俗所以我們才說當才那一條因為從我們戶政機關來講他就是依法行政嘛他就要法有依據他就可以用那個第九條所以這樣就沒有問題了嘛 |
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| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
對所以我才說對不是 政委員你現在的意見不是 啊你現在加的這一項有什麼問題 |
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| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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12850.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
12873.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
12900.849 |
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問題因為我們剛剛抱歉我晚到了一點沒有聽到所以我沒有聽到我可不可以跟您請教是什麼問題我只不過跟他們講說反正有第9條就好了沒有啦他剛才他有開始說他就是說第一條的你修正來免加我沒有意見他說會搞亂了啦 |
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二、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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對啦所以他才說要放嘛因為我們現行法都是在處理過往的大環境只有漢到元很少有極少數是有一出生就是元的人嘛但是時至今日就像我女兒我再說一次就像我女兒現在他們一出生就是元了那是不是也可以賦予他有到漢的機會而且還有機會再變回來現在你放的第4這一條不就是在處理這個問題嗎 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
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聽一下,他剛才說了,說這一定放下去啊,一天,欸吶等一下等一下,我覺得你們都在講不同的事情,對,剛剛喬惠其實已經講得很清楚了,我們過去的那一部分 |
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政委員的版本在第9條處理。那巧惠在提的是他現在一出生就是原住民的名字然後他能不能改譬如說改為漢名那改為漢名之後他能不能還有譬如說還可以再回來的狀況這個是剛剛黃婕委員提到的這是我理解的黃婕的版本是這樣所以第一條的部分剛剛在講第9條已經處理 |
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第一條的部分這邊就已經剛剛也講了這邊本來的前項就改成是第二項嘛對不對那就放進來了然後另外就是剛才提到的這個第四第四項的部分再做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及第四條及 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
13109.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
13125.823 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
二、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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所以這樣OK了齁?我們真的要確認因為我真的不想修出去會被罵的我是負責任的對啊我想說我這麼認真為什麼出去還要被罵我才不要勒對啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
二項修正條例部分條例部分條例部分條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
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第二項臺灣原住民修正為臺灣原住民族增訂第三項前項臺灣原住民族傳統姓名文化慣俗由中央原住民族主管機關調查確認其內涵意義取用方式及其他因行注意事項之質疑。 |
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由中央主管機關會同中央原住民族主管機關定之。增訂第四項,第二項,臺灣原住民族及其他少數民族之出生登記及出社戶籍登記以傳統姓名登記者得申請變更為漢人姓名,變更為漢人姓名者得申請回復傳統姓名,但均以一次違憲。請議事人員把麥克風給他。 |
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三項前項台灣原住民族傳統姓名文化慣俗由中央原住民族主管機關調查確認。 |
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其內涵意義、啟用方式及其他因行注意事項之指引,由中央主管機關會同中央研究民主主管機關定之。」第一個就是說為什麼是要內政部會同研明會這個是傳統信名然後我們的文化慣俗 |
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然後前面已經由你們去調查然後後面還要由變成用內政部匯統這個部分是不是文字在在調整啊好 國政副主委好 這個部分因為我們本來想說姓名條例主管機關是內政部不過剛剛委員的建議我們沒意見我們中央嚴明主管機關匯統中央主管機關我們OK |
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| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。七、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員� |
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用傳統名字去登記會影響為什麼會影響呢我擔心內政部在執行的時候所有的附政機關附政事務所在執行的時候現在沒有這條條文的時候因為你們跟他們有一個另外一個行政規行政命令 |
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| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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資料裏面的很多的附贈機關了就用這個增加了我們很多鄉親還要跑很多趟 |
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| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
主席主席 |
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| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例第二條及第〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具〈姓名條例部分條文修正草案案〉案。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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因為委員我請你不要擔心是因為在今天在修這個法我想大家有非常高的一個共識那內政部也有非常高的一個共識願意全力來支持所以委員不用擔心那第二個是這個地方在提到因為 |
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這個我們從今天的討論裡面也發現原住民族的傳統姓名的文化慣俗等等其實真的是非常多樣那這個需要一個社會大家共同認識學習的過程 |
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所以我們在行政機關我們的確也會有需要相關的一個指引那這樣我們的不管是中央還是地方的公務的同仁才知道接下來在執行面要怎麼做所以委員你不用擔心這個其實是一個行政上的指引這個反而是有助於我們後續工作的一個推動所以以上來做簡單的報告那另外 |
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另外因為主管機關是這樣子,姓名條例的主管機關是內政部所以因為這個是法是修在姓名條例的第一條所以還是要由這個內政部來會同這個原住民族主管機關來定會比較恰當 |
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非常謝謝部長的補充說明,非常的完整所以剛剛鄭天財我們擔心的事情我覺得他當然會存在但是我們事實上法條定了之後未來我們的族人就必須要他要修改他的姓名或者是他就必須要找到他的根源第一條部分我們就按照修正草案的修正文字 |
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三項原住民族依其文化慣俗登記傳統姓名者得使用原住民族文字。 |
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單數移到第3條。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第 |
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第四條第一項修正為臺灣原住民族之中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名均得以傳統姓名之原住民族文字並列登記,其他少數民族之中文傳統姓名或漢人姓名均得以傳統姓名之羅馬拼音並列登記,不受第一條第一項規定之限制。 |
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第四條的部分我們就是按照內政部建議修正條文通過。現在第八條的部分就按照鄭天財等21人還有高金素梅的24人的提案照案通過。第九條的部分按照鄭天財委員的提案條文通過。這樣子大家都沒意見。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案。 |
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日出條款我們另外提案再來一起處理好不好好謝謝那個網絡委員的提醒好請問服務委員照剛才的協商結論通過請問有沒有異議沒有沒有異議謝謝本次會議審查通過的條文相關對不起是法治局法治局有什麼意見嗎 |
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確認一點就是第二條第二條剛剛說但書一列增列為第三項的部分對那把但字拿掉對但拿掉那請問前面原住民族前面要不要加台灣請審查會確認以上得使用原住民族文字應該台灣台灣原住民族 |
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得使用臺灣原住民族文字 |
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市長你還有什麼意見?剛才只有講到是臺灣原住民族之傳統姓名得使用原住民族文字登記碼後面是不是不受前兩項規定之限制? |
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在哪裡啊?你在講什麼?你是不是餓了?餓過頭了?沒有沒有沒有,因為前面兩項是在講這個要使用中文名字就不要,剛剛園民會古政副主委已經說了啊在我們這個文字裡面是沒有這樣子啊不要啦,我們不接受了啦,現在都已經第二條都已經處理完畢了啊你現在還在,你還沒睡醒是不是? |
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二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。六、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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但是前面那個法制是希望說那個但字拿掉之後是加台灣原住民族依其文化慣俗登記傳統姓名者得使用OK的原住民族文字因為國家語言發展法就是用原住民族文字沒有加台灣對啦如果你要 |
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三條條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭 |
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第二條的第一項原來委員增訂但書的部分一列增列為第三項,那把但字拿掉嗎?對,那我們就是一列到第三項的第一句,第一句是原住民族依其文化慣俗登記傳統姓名者,就具首的部分是用原住民 |
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原住民族三個字幾個字。那我只要請審查會確認是用原住民族還是用臺灣原住民族聚首的部分。剛剛股仲副主委已經說了是原住民族沒有臺灣啦。鮑主席鮑主席我可不可以以我的理解看不好像有沒有正確齁你如果有你的建議你就大膽的說出來嘛 |
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三條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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那剛剛副主委我不知道你是不是針對這個回答但我剛剛耳朵聽到的你是在說原住民族文字這個部分這個term是專用語所以不要加台灣你們一個在講頭一個在講尾我聽到的是這樣 |
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因為我是聽法治局提到臺灣原住民族文字那所以我說原住民族文字就原住民族文字至於這個因為這個如果真列第三項的話因為前面都是寫臺灣原住民族嘛那就加臺灣也都OK所以是他發現有漏字他回答剛好不知道回答到後面去了大概是這樣 |
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來加臺灣兩個字其實本稍為的認為就是說在原住原居法裡面都沒有臺灣這個字出現了但對對對在按照所有的法規裡面都沒有前面有一個臺灣這個字這就是原住民族好不好不好意思好謝謝來大家看一下這個文字第二條有沒有意見 |
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因為他這裡面是寫中華民國沒有意見的話我們就按照第二條的再修正文字就這樣通過好不好好我們現在已經處理完畢了好主席做一下的決議 |
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討論事項所列的姓名條例部分條文修正法草案以併案審查完略,擬具審查報告提報院會討論。請問在場的委員我們應該就不需要經過檔堂協商了吧? |
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本案在院會討論時有本席高金、昭偉、素梅做補充的說明。我們現在處理附帶決議的部分有三案請宣讀。已經宣讀了嗎?所以大家都沒意見?三項附帶決議如果沒意見就照案通過。 |
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好,我們附帶決議的部分有三項,我們就照案通過。好,本次會議我們就到這裡結束,再一次謝謝所有在場的委員及事廣義,我們散會,謝謝。 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第 |
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三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第三條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |
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二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及 |