| IVOD_ID |
15870 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15870 |
| 日期 |
2024-05-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-1-20,15,19,22,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[5] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[5] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-05-02T08:31:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-05-02T15:46:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
07:14:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528ee1784ed6585ee25e7931ae751f1d07213be8d109af184be4d4d847a5362be9aa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-05-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查或處理「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算(112至113年度)」及「中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算」決議：
一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。
二、有關經濟部主管預算凍結書面報告案9案。
三、有關交通部主管預算凍結書面報告案14案。
四、有關行政院農業委員會主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。
五、有關衛生福利部主管預算凍結書面報告案11案。
六、有關文化部主管預算凍結書面報告案1案。
七、有關數位發展部主管預算凍結書面報告案7案。
八、有關原住民族委員會預算凍結書面報告案1案。
九、有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。
十、有關行政院環境保護署預算凍結書面報告案1案。
十一、有關國家科學及技術委員會主管預算凍結書面報告案2案。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:31:47 - 15:46:00 |
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請各位就座請各位肅靜請主任秘書報告出席委員人數報告委員會出席委員與主法定人數好主席宣布現在開始開會請議事人員宣讀今日議程 |
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有關經濟部主管預算凍結書面報告案9案。有關交通部主管預算凍結書面報告案14案。 |
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四、有關行政院農業委員會主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。五、有關衛生福利部主管預算凍結書面報告案11案。六、有關文化部主管預算凍結書面報告案1案。七、有關數位發展部主管預算凍結書面報告案7案。八、有關原住民組委員會預算凍結書面報告案1案。九、有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。十、有關行政院環境保護署預算凍結書面報告案1案。十一、有關國家科學及技術委員會主管預算凍結書面報告案2案。 |
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好,我們嚴厲先介紹在場委員及與會部會的這一個代表政府官員首先介紹吳秉立的吳委員陳一貞陳委員好,我們教育部政務次長劉夢齊、劉政次經濟部林全南、林長次 |
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1939.755 |
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1960.066 |
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交通部陳彥博、陳正次農業部杜文貞、杜長次衛福部李立芬、李正次文化部魏秋怡、魏市長 |
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1967.699 |
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1993.218 |
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速發部李懷仁、李政次、原民會宋立儒、宋處長、內政部花敬群、花政次、環境部沈志秋、沈長士、國科會陳中全副組委、行政院主計處陳慧娟副組長、 |
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1997.657 |
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好,以上,包括事項當中有關中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算解凍案書面報告28案。 |
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包括教育部主管3案、經濟部主管2案、交通部主管8案、農業部主管2案、衛生福利部主管8案、文化部主管1案、抒發部主管4案及中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算經濟部解凍書面報告一案。請議事人員宣讀。 |
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2041.615 |
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處理中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算 112至113年度決議：一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。 |
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一、國民及學前教育署第二目城鄉建設預算凍結50萬元。二、國民及學前教育署第三目人才培育促進就業建設向下2030雙語政策計畫預算凍結500萬元。三、體育署第二目城鄉建設第一節充實全民運動環境預算凍結1000萬元。二、有關經濟部主管預算凍結書面報告案2案。一、工業局第三目人才培育促進就業建設 |
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2092.364 |
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向下,數位與特殊技術人才發展與數位與特殊技術人才養成及人才培育交流平台推動計畫預算凍結300萬元。二、中小企業處第2目人才培育促進教育建設向下,數位與特殊技術人才發展之中小企業數位領導、中小企業二代接班人數位成長計畫預算凍結10分之1。三、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案8案。 |
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交通部主管預算凍結1000萬元。2、觀光局及所屬第1目水環境建設第1節水域環境向下全國水環境改善計畫遊戲據點預算凍結1。3、觀光局及所屬第2目城鄉建設第1節推動觀光升級預算凍結1。4、公路總局及所屬第4目綠燃建設向下公共充電裝設置及區域充電需求評估計畫預算凍結1。5、 |
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2146.246 |
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一、公路總局及所屬第4目綠營建設預算凍結10分之1。六、公路總局及所屬第6目城鄉建設第1節改善停車問題計畫預算凍結4000萬元。七、公路總局及所屬第6目城鄉建設第2節提升道路品質預算凍結10分之1。八、鐵路局及所屬第4目城鄉建設第1節推動觀光升級預算凍結10分之1。四、有關行政和農業委員會主管預算凍結書面報告案2案。一、 |
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2165.046 |
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該會第二幕,綠燃建設預算凍結200萬元書面報告案。二、零五期第一幕,軌道建設第一節,中南部觀光鐵路向下鐵路局阿里山林業鐵路設施設備安全提升計畫預算凍結3%。五、有關衛生福利部主管預算凍結書面報告案8案。一、 |
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2166.574 |
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2192.276 |
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2、該部第2幕城鄉建設預算凍結20萬元。2、該部第2幕城鄉建設第1屆公共服務據點整備預算凍結200萬元。3、國民健康署第1幕城鄉建設第1屆公共服務據點整備向下獎補助費資銀髮健身俱樂部補助計畫預算凍結100萬元。4、社會及家庭署第1幕城鄉建設第1屆公共服務據點整備預算凍結100萬元。5、社會及家庭署第2幕因應少子化有善育兒空間建設預算凍結2000萬元。6、 |
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2194.558 |
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2217.618 |
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2、社會及家庭署第2目因應少子化友善育兒空間建設向下建構0至2歲兒童社區公共推計畫預算凍結100萬元。7、社會及家庭署第2目因應少子化友善育兒空間建設預算凍結100萬元。8、社會及家庭署第2目因應少子化友善育兒空間建設預算凍結100萬元。6、有關文化部預算凍結200萬元。 |
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2219.775 |
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2241.216 |
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七、有關數位發展部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、該部第一幕數位建設預算凍結500萬元。二、該部第一幕數位建設第一節基礎建設環境預算凍結1000萬元。三、自動安全署第一幕數位建設預算凍結10分之1。四、自動安全署第一幕數位建設第一節基礎建設與環境向下政府基層 |
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2242.097 |
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2267.664 |
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基層機關資安主動防疫計畫預算凍結3000萬元。二、處理中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算決議。有關經濟部第二幕：推動產業及中小企業升級轉型之輔導傳統市集品牌化,進行空間美學優化,協助攤部會導入低碳化經營,並推動人才培育及行銷活動等所需經費預算凍結3000萬元書面報告案。宣布完畢。 |
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2271.407 |
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2293.441 |
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請問各位委員,針對以上預算解凍案書面報告有無異議?無異議。書面報告完成,准予動之提報院會。為了疏解會場的人數,報告事項已解凍的三級機關的首長,請留下來。幕僚人員可以准予回機關辦公。 |
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2300.618 |
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2303.39 |
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接著,討論事項有關於中央政府前瞻計畫 |
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2305.748 |
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2330.523 |
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前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算解凍案書面報告24案,包括原民會主管1案、內政部主管2案、教育部主管1案、經濟部主管6案、交通部4案、行政院農業部主管1案、衛福部主管3案、行政院環保署環境部主管1案。 |
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2332.367 |
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2347.868 |
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訴發部主管3案。國科會主管2案。及中央政府疫後強化經濟及社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算解凍案書面報告3案。包括內政部主管1案及交通部主管2案。請議事人員確讀。 |
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2356.159 |
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2384.985 |
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審查中央政府前瞻基礎建設第4期特別預算 112至103年度決議：一、有關原住民族委員會第2幕城鄉建設第二節推動原住民族多元產業發展2.0預算凍結600萬元。二、有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案2案。一、本部該部第一案第一幕數位建設第一節基礎建設環境預算凍結十分之一。二、該部第一幕數位建設第一節基礎建設環境預算凍結十分之一。三、有關教育部第三幕人才培育促進就業建設 |
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2386.005 |
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2410.595 |
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預算凍結500萬元。四、有關經濟部主管預算凍結書面報告案6案。一、公安局第4目利用建設向下電動物流車補助計畫預算凍結100萬元。二、水利署及所屬第二目水環境建設第一節水域發展向下優惠費之烏溪鳥嘴潭人工湖工程計畫預算凍結5000萬元。三、水利署及所屬第二目水環境建設第二節水域安全向下縣市管 |
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2411.704 |
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2416.21 |
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核穿及區域排水整體改善計畫預算凍結8000萬元。4. |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
2416.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2421.157 |
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能源局第1目綠能建設向下業務費預算凍結400萬元。5. |
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2421.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2425.423 |
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能源局第1目綠能建設向下去碳技術示範及人才培育計畫預算凍結200萬元。6. |
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2425.423 |
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2425.824 |
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能源局第2目 |
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二、綠營建設向下東部地區第6鑽井計畫預算凍結100萬元。五、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、觀光局所屬第二幕,城鄉建設第一節推動觀光升級預算凍結500萬元。二、運輸研究所第二幕,綠營建設向下公共充電裝設置及區域充電需求評估計畫之。 |
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別辦理電動車、公共充電樁設施、設置、需求評估等所需經費預算凍結十分之一。3、鐵道局局所屬第二幕、軌道建設第一節、台鐵升級及改善東部服務預算凍結一千萬元。4、鐵道局局所屬第二幕、軌道建設第四節、軌道規劃計畫。 |
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五、軌道規劃作業預算凍結10分之1。六、有關行政和農業委員會林業試驗所第一目綠營建設預算凍結20分之1。七、有關衛生福利部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。一、食品藥物管理署第一目食品安全建設預算凍結10分之1。二、食品藥物管理署第一目食品安全建設向下獎補助費預算凍結300萬元。 |
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三、食品藥物管理署第1目食品安全建設向下食品安全建設計畫之提升新興傳染性疾病醫藥品及食衣性病人檢驗研究量能及標準化預算凍結500萬元。八、有關行政及環境保護署第2目綠營建設預算凍結100萬元。九、有關數位發展部主管預算凍結書面報告案3案。以該部第1目 |
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數位建設第2節5G基礎公共建設向下補助5G網路建設計畫預算凍結10分之1。二、自動安全署第1目數位建設第1節基礎建設環境向下台灣資安卓業深耕資安卓業中心計畫預算凍結500萬元。三、數位產業署第1目數位建設第2節產業數位 |
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轉型向下引領中小微型企業數位轉型戰略攻頂計畫預算凍結10分之1。十、有關國家科學及技術委員會主管預算凍結書面報告案2案。一、該會第二幕數位建設第一節建構開放政府及智慧城鄉服務預算凍結500萬元。二、該會第三幕人才培育促進交易建設向下青年科技創新創業基地建設計畫預算凍結300萬元書面報告案。 |
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二、審查中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算決議：一、有關內政部營建署及所屬第一幕減輕居住負擔及提高居住品質預算凍結1000萬元。二、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案2案。一、 |
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觀光局及所屬第一幕加速擴大吸引國際觀光客預算凍結3000萬元。二、公務務總局及所屬第一幕擴大公共運輸補貼減輕通勤族群交通負擔預算凍結100萬元書面報告案。宣讀完畢。好,謝謝。我想我再說明一下為了紓解會場的人潮沒有討論事項那除了機關所長需要留下來之外其他的三級機關的所長可以先行離開 |
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那我們左手邊如果太擁擠的話我們二樓這邊的會場還可以使用好那因為今天的這一個登記發言的委員人數高達61人那因此呢我們待會的這一個部會呢我們就重點報告那也相關部會主要部會來進行說明好現在請主要請經濟部跟交通部來進行報告就可以了現在請相關部會所長就主管預算結算案依序報告 |
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請經濟部林全仁常務次長報告 |
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主席、各位委員、經濟部就主管前瞻基礎建設第4期特別預算以及中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算所作預算凍結討論事項6案依序來作報告。請各位參著書面報告的第二頁。 |
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首先,第一案是針對我們產業發展署所執行的綠能建設電動物流車補助計畫預算凍結0.01億元一案來進行說明。本計畫是以電動物流車4萬維推動目標 |
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串聯車廠關鍵零組件廠技術能量整合車廠物流業者及設備供應商開發符合市場需求之物流車款目前已合併補助兩案補助業者投入車型開發及示範運行共投入54輛3.5噸及34輛1.95噸之電動小貨車依據每車可減碳約63%應用場域包括一般的物流大賣場的配送 |
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農會、小農集收、集送及共享自行車載運調度等本計畫將推動關鍵零組件國產化及國產電動車以加速車輛產業轉型及綠色運輸的願景。2、是本部水利署及所屬來執行的水環境建設向下 |
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烏溪鳥嘴潭人工湖工程計畫是辦理人工湖工程景觀綠美化及周邊環境改善預算凍結0.5億元案進行說明本項預算系會執行環境監測評估、水域生態調查及生態環境友善等措施以符合環評承諾及落實生態保育措施 |
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查鳥水潭人工湖112年10月所以完成全部6個湖區主體工程並供水資下游進水場處理後供應彰化及南投地區、維南區持續辦理景觀、綠美化及環境監測調查等工作以創造優質水域環境帶動地方經濟發展。 |
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3、本部水利署及所屬所執行的水環境建設所以安全向下縣市管河川及區域排水整體改善計畫預算凍結0.8元一項進行說明本計畫依據各縣市管河川排水治理計畫針對各縣市高淹水風險地區排水加速改善本部水利署於執行過程中 |
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召開地方說明會以參佐民意,使施政更符合民眾的期待。該署每月邀請各縣市政府召開控管會議、滾動檢討執行情形,並透過河川分署溝通平台會議協助解決遭遇困難,務使計畫經會發揮最大的治水成效。 |
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本計畫成果良好,受到各界普遍認可,且考量受氣候影響甚具有推動迫切性經濟卻有時需,以利於計畫如期如子完工,提供更完善的防洪設施。4本部能源署執行綠能建設業務會預算凍結0.04億元進行說明。 |
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2861.999 |
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每項預算系會辦理葉劉電池儲能系統技術驗證、Megawatt等級儲能電池健康檢測及評估技術等計畫,用於推動大型葉劉電池系統技術驗證場域建立、進行長時間儲能系統性能實驗場域與效能的評估,並開發國內自主Megawatt等級儲能電池健康檢測及評估的技術,提升系統可靠度與儲能暗場運轉效益。 |
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除能系統為國內再生能源發電佔比提高之重要配套本項計畫成果有助供電穩定加速除能設置及確保系統安全並可提升民眾對除能系統應用與生活的接受度第5項是本部能源署執行綠能建設去探技術示範及人才培育計畫預算凍結0.02億元一案進行說明本項預算需於台南沙崙智慧綠能科學城場域設置 |
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策試及驗證高占比再生能源情境所需相關淨敏技術的導入,包含綠電產銷與管理驗證平台智慧 |
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自衛能源區域實證平台與氫能失換驗證平台等工作項目,執行重點為盤點綠電交易制度,完成國內綠電轉供估算平台的雛型,提供公務車綠色充電服務及建立彈性電能轉供量計算的機制等,有助發展我國自由技術及達成國家近年轉型的目標。 |
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是本部能源署執行綠能建設東部地區地熱專井計畫預算凍結0.01元一案進行說明。本項預算系規劃於宜蘭土產地區專找4口地熱井及於南陽平原專找1口深層地熱碳勘井,看明潛在地熱運償量, |
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供未來擴大開發地熱發電能源之廠址調查及收集高溫地下水之分布及水溫的範圍作為東部地熱發電廠之建構依據提升臺灣東部地區地熱資源產能及發電量並評估地熱能量潛力及擴大開發之可行性有助加速國內地熱開發進程提高我國再生能源佔比 |
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並可鼓勵民間投入相關產業。以上各項計畫所編預算,均系配合國家重要政策之需,為利各項計畫及早完成,以發揮效益,懇請各位委員支持,並同意相關經費自動資。以上報告,謝謝。 |
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主席、各位委員、女士先生現在交通部緊就中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期的特別預算還有中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算有關本部主管的解凍 |
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前瞻特別預算的部分,總共有4案。觀光局在城鄉建設下凍結500萬元。本部觀光署為持續推動花東地區國際旅遊市場,已經嚴定推動花東永續旅遊境外包機計畫。 |
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及修正境外包機來臺的補助要點,未來將持續結合各地方政府加強宣導包機的獎勵措施,來鼓勵積極送客到富花東去旅遊。 |
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預言所綠能建設下凍結10%預算本部預言所在112至113年辦理電動車公共充電樁設施設置需求評估研究 |
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本研究以於112年收集電動車使用者使用需求特性及國內外的相關文獻,112年將建立電動車公共充電樁的設施需求的評估模式,來探討不同情形下的電動公車公共充電樁需求變化的情形。 |
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第3案是有關我們鐵道局在軌道建設下所凍結的一千萬元。這部分本部的鐵道局於112年到11月20日已經將花蓮縣政府提報的花蓮車站以南至木瓜西提防 |
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2、鐵路立體化的可行性研究案。3、研議已經納入了花東地區鐵路雙軌電氣化計畫的修正計畫,而且已於113年3月29日提報行政院來審理中。4、鐵道局凍結預算。 |
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大家所關切的高鐵延伸屏東規劃的一個作業的路線規劃以依環境影響評估公開說明會的意見檢討辦理也就是沿理高雄市的人武區的路段朝向與高雄到屏東間的所謂的東西向第二條快速公路計畫共用路廊的方向來規劃 |
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一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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3175.714 |
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2、有關公務局及所屬辦理的擴大公共運輸補貼凍結書面報告案。 |
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公共預輸通勤預票從112年7月1日上路實施,迄今全國已有19個縣市推動實施,共有23個預票方案。澎湖縣的預票方案也預定在今年的上半年上路。 |
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一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案5案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案6案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案7案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案8案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案9案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案10案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案11案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案12案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案13案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面 |
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這個計畫裡的其中有關自由行的獎助方案,到今年3月為止共計有212萬名的國外旅客參加抽獎,總共有36萬人中獎。團課獎勵方面也有2萬團提出申請。 |
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至於就穩定旅宿業服務量能的部分,我們也與勞動部跟教育部共同合作。到了113年的3月底,旅宿業者暨新聘防務清潔人員2,669人。本計畫在112年以成功帶動全年來台的旅客數,已經超過640萬人次。 |
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以上是就這兩個特別預算的一個報告做簡要的一個說明那還是懇請各位委員的支持必利於本部的各項計畫能夠順利推動謝謝 |
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好,謝謝我們交通部陳正智的報告。其他部會請參閱書面報告。現在開始詢答。先做以下宣告。每位出席委員發言時間為5分鐘。必要時得延長1分鐘。每位列席委員發言時間為4分鐘。今日上午10點截止發言登記。現在依照登記的順序請登記第一位林德福委員質詢。 |
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陳副主席 |
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委員好。你好,副主席長你好。因為再過幾天你們朱主席長就要卸任了。那在8年任內行政院所提出的一些特別預算那監察院曾經在109年提出調查報告 |
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說我們的特別預算編列有常態化的這種現象那政府恐將有將部分支出隱藏於這些前瞻計畫的特別預算裡面造成109年度總預算財政收支平衡之假象 |
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那中央政府在推動前瞻計畫因為未能充分考量地方的財政以至於地方政府有挪移預算產生排擠的一個效應那我請問副組長對於監察院針對政府特別預算常態化的這種看法那個副組長你認不認同 |
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謝謝委員這個關心實際上我們所有編列特別預算一定要符合預算法第83條的條件然後也最近這幾年的特別預算一定是先有條例經過我們大院我知道啊那問題是監察院為什麼要調查呢如果你認同的話那你是不是應該要給下一任尤其你們應該給下一任的主計長有一些參考建議啊如果你要是 |
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不認為說特別預算有常態化的現象,那是不是代表你認同行政機關對於預算法第83條的解釋,應該是要往擴大解釋的方向走,是不是? |
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主席主席總書 |
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陳花新文稿表示,由於普通公務預算一年才編列一次,但如果有特殊大筆經費需求,需要到隔年的預算才能編列,移屬反不及急。 |
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需依法編列特別預算並送立法院來審議。現在國民黨提出《0403 政災重建條例》草案,要求編列150億元特別預算來協助重建,請問你認為《0403 政災特別預算》經費是不是有必要? |
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有沒有必要?跟委員報告就是說當然我們預算法的規定就是重大災變可以提特別預算不過因為我們現在災害防救法已經在921之後已經賦予可以已緩計及所以目前各部會在還沒有特別預算之前其實已經都找到預算趕快去進行這個災險跟重建的工作所以目前盤點以後目前已經有 |
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主席 |
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快速的整合各部會資源權力來投入重建,不需要另立特別的條例,快又有效。那我請問副主席黨,到底特別預算的編列是要看經費需求的急迫性,還是要看哪個政黨執政才有特別預算編列與否的決定權呢? |
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其實這個要不要編特別預算有兩個角度一個就是說它的急迫性當然一個是它的規模那現在因為目前我們盤點的規模以我們現有的手上的這些災準金或者遺患基金等等還有政災基金會等財源是足夠支援的那哪時候可以確定呢 |
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我們現在已經在進行了,已經都在執行了。在執行,因為行政院如果能夠快速整合各部會資源籌措250億,那不就是坐實了行政院年度預算是胡編嗎? |
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因為921的經驗所以各部會比如說交通部、農委會他們本來的預算就有編了一些跟災害有關的預算那我們也要求地方政府或者我們中央大家都有災害準備金的這樣的一個編列所以它的應付災害的能力已經提升了 |
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我知道但是問題地方政府他沒有那麼多的預算啊因為本席對於吼拿救災預算的經費合理化來作為吼政治鬥爭籌碼的行為啊 |
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本期是不以為然所以說我一直認為說這個一定要建立制度而且要怎麼快速因為畢竟像這樣的一個重大災害算是這個國家級的那你不是只有單一花蓮其他縣市有的也是蠻嚴重的那副組長我再請教這個 |
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臺經院上禮拜公布今年最新的經濟成長率預測為3.29%比1月預測的0.14%上修0.14%。CPI年增率也上修到2.13%。而且因為受到 |
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電價調漲、物價上漲的牽動以及中東地緣政治風險升溫的影響形成加劇整個通膨的一個壓力甚至於對國內輸入性通膨造成新一波的壓力那副主席長針對台積電對於經濟成長力CPI的預測請問你有什麼看法 |
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因為第一季我們的實際的結果也的確比原來預測的還好所以我們原來預估的3.43也有可能會往上調升那至於CPI就是目前就是也考量了這個電價的調整我們預估也盡量希望就是大概控制在全年在2%左右因為那個國內輸入性通貨的壓力已經是蠢蠢欲動還是已經出現了?你的看法呢? |
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我想民眾主要感受是說他購買頻率很高的那他感受的確會比較深那這個部分我們也會針對購買頻率比較高的去做的一個CPI的這個比例但是就平均而言我們希望控制在2%左右好最後一個警器護書下的台青院是這樣預測結果那請問副主席長你認為今年第二季以後到底會更樂觀還是會悲觀 |
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陳婷薇委員質詢 |
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交通部次長 |
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委員好市長好市長我們的單軌藍線一起有條件通過那總經費是324.37億這個部分讓大家都覺得我們台南要蓋捷運了是以單軌捷運的方式可是其實你細看裡面 |
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他是有條件的通過有條件的通過而且他現在是高價他有條件的通過在這整個過程當中他是要從主要連接我們的高鐵到我們的所謂的轉運站東區的轉運站這樣的一個區塊所以呢大家都希望有這一條來做連結可是 |
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有條件的通過,這裡面的條件,市長,裡面所寫的其實沒有那麼容易來做處理。第一個,他說,台南市政府需再加強說明採用該系統原因及後續營運維修成本。這很困難的。 |
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2、總經費較可行性研究增加126.74億,它的責任歸屬。3、中央與地方經費分攤、經濟效益及運量估算合理性。這三個,你先讓它 |
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過了一個頭,過去人們都說頭過心就過,但是這看了不是這樣,有條件的通過,原本大家都期待說藍線一起我們環評過了,結果是有條件通過,市長這到底是怎麼一回事? |
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我想我跟委員報告一下有關台南市的藍線本部是在3月21號召開相關的審查會當然審查會裡頭有相關的意見是希望台南市政府再去釐清說明說明完了以後其實我們就會幫整個計畫環保行政院來核定但是你釐清說明的這三點你這三點是可大可小 |
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市長這三點是可大可小我跟委員報告其實這個整個採用什麼樣的系統採用什麼樣的營運的方式在可行性的階段其實市政府做了很詳盡的研究那提出來的之後至於它採行了這樣的一套的系統那在相關當時的審查委員認為是說可能要請市政府再說明把它說明清楚並不是說這樣意思就是說在質疑它採用這樣的一個系統 |
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我就跟你講,你這三點是可大可小,對不對?如果只是認同它這個系統,然後呢,在未來它可行性評估的營運維修成本只是有一點點需要補強的,那沒有問題。如果像你講的,如果委員是認為這個系統是有問題的喔, |
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那是可大可小。再來,總經費,它比可行性研究當時候增加了126.74億,比較多的大概都是我們的所有土建相關我們的預算增加。 |
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市長 |
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可不可以簡單說明再說明清楚一點好不好就是有關這樣的一個計畫在我們這個部裡頭召開的審查委員審查完以後是有條件通過請他修正完了以後我們就會把這樣的一個計畫報院所以呢這個剛才委員講到說這個報院的期程應該在市政府報來了以後我們大概看了一下沒問題我們就會往行政院來審報市長你這句話很重要喔那至於可行性的研究因為我就跟你講說 |
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你寫的這幾點是可大可小。如果說你今天像次長所說的,我們都審過了,只有一個小修正,OK?可是如果不是這個樣子,又是三邊推薦來推薦去,那基本上我們當時候在媒體看得大大的,也就是我們已經通過了所謂的一個初步審查, |
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那等於就沒有意義了。市長,你要記得你今天所說的喔。市長,我跟委員報告,有條件的通過其實是整體上委員對這整個計畫是可以通過的。當然啦,整體可以通過,但是只是稍微修正。這個原則請把它踩住。沒問題,我們會依照這樣的原則來做後續的一個處理。因為其實我們的捷運 |
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單軌捷運基本上它是有藍線、綠線、紅線綠線、紅線都還在規劃都還沒有正式有這樣的一個雛形那今天藍線會跑得比較快是因為它確實它可以連接我們的高鐵到我們的東區的轉運站所以這個是有它基本上的需要甚至還可以連接到我們未來整個我們的火車站 |
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這個都有它的一個脈絡性所以這一條會比較被重視而且認為因為它是高價高價其實未來還有一個所謂的落墩的問題落墩的問題這邊比較空曠比較沒有所謂跟我們住戶有所謂的一個比鄰的狀態所以我們都希望這一條要趕快走 |
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要趕快走所以在整個藍線、綠線、紅線它在本來2.25億的一個先期的運輸系統規劃那現在藍線跑得比較快所以我們希望不要讓我們地方失望是這個部分好第二個問題就是我們現在所看到的新式鐵路高架化 |
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新市鐵路高架化新市鐵路高架化我知道現在臺南市政府還在做新市及善化地區鐵路立體化可行性研究的期末相關作業對不對所有的資料都還在市政府是不是所以你們這邊沒有資料我要求交通部你現在 |
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因為你要評估我們現在所有的地下、鐵路地下化的進度到未來走到我們新市高架大概要多久?因為你們預估出時間才能催促市政府要趕快把時間定出來啊否則他東西不送出來怎麼辦?來預計一下我們現在所有的地下化都在進行啊趕快回答吧 |
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我跟委員報告一下有關那個鐵路地下化的部分我們會在115年會通車啊對啊115年對那這整個的話那後續的這個就要看市政府報來了以後從永康再到新市那這個部分呢這個部分你預計呢115年我們鐵路地下化通車那後面我銜接到我們永康新市新化這裡的還有這個上化我想委員這部分呢可能還是我先下這部分資料好不好 |
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沒有,這一句話而已。對,對,對,我的意思是說還是希望這個台南市政府報來了以後,是,我們來協助啦,好不好,我們來接下,我們來協助他啦。如果他都不動的話,等到我們做完,後面計畫都還沒上來,怎麼會來得及呢? |
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請吳秉瑞委員質詢 |
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主席,麻煩請內政部發次長。內政部的發次長,請。市長早。這個花蓮403地震,全國人民都很關心。除了中央這邊也有捐款,也有人直接捐到花蓮縣政府之外, |
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是對中央對花蓮縣的救災要求我們沒有承諾嗎?當然有承諾那有承諾他盤點清楚受損的部分沒有? |
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目前花蓮陸陸續續盤點出來現階段有十幾棟大概會有可能要拆除或者是整個建築物的部分那另外道路的還有其他的那這些工程的搶修不是已經在進行了嗎是 |
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那現在中央政府也同意至少有匡列250億以上馬上要投入救災那為什麼還需要一個什麼特別條例啊而且特別條例大家覺得規模才150億耶 |
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還遠遠不如中央政府的預算規模而且中央政府不用經過立法的程序馬上就要做然後現在你要弄一個特別條例要經過本院立法 立法程序走完之後再由行政院再來編列預算然後再來去進行 那目的是150億還比行政院現在已經願意馬上投入執行的250億還要少這是在幹嘛 |
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確實啦,但我想以現在行政院用方案的方式來執行,其實效率跟規模都會符合災民的需求。 |
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那是不是我現在意思是說所以我懷疑是不是花蓮縣政府跟中央之間的溝通有問題啊會不會花蓮縣政府要報什麼救災的這個計畫來啊結果中央政府不接受還是中央政府跟他邀說你要盤點清楚你哪一些東西要救災要趕快來進行然後他不給你到底是哪一種狀況啊應該沒有他花蓮需要中央協助中央不處理的這個基本上是沒有啦 |
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那有沒有花蓮?中央要花蓮盤點受災的狀況,花蓮不報的?我想各部會可能都有不同的狀況,那當然有些資訊確實慢了一些。 |
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好那如果是這樣的話就回到我剛剛講的中央政府尤其行政機關沒有這些特別條例的狀況下已經匡列250億馬上要投入救災嘛只要你計畫報來確實就要進行嘛對不對甚至我們也會主動下去就執行執了解所以我現在意思說內政部要主動要了解有有有好那如果是這樣的話這樣子的速度 |
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今天報來確定明天就可以做甚至今天就可以做那有需要來提一個這個政災的特別條例特別條例是一個法律案法律案要到本院來審查法院法律案的審查在立法院再快直接抽出進付二讀也要好幾個禮拜啊那然後之後再來根據這個 |
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這個特別條例再來由行政院編列預算那再經過本院審查這個預算的審查再快也要兩三個禮拜馬上就可以做的事情有需要經過這樣兩三個月的程序然後來去立一個特別條例然後來編列預算來做嗎這個是第一個我不懂的地方這是在幹嘛我不瞭解所以我想請教你你的看法是這是在幹嘛 |
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主席主席主席 |
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慈善機構也是我們的宗教團體叫做慈濟他的大本營就是在花蓮對不對是慈濟在全世界救災喔全世界有到處去喔連非洲連中南美洲各地土耳其只要有正在的地方他都派人去支援也弄了非常多的組合屋你知道嗎是包括20多年前的九合一地震九合一大地震他也弄了非常多的組合屋啊台灣組合屋不夠嗎 |
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以目前花蓮的狀況甚至有沒有需要組合屋都還要再詳細的評估一下有沒有需要組合屋需要詳細的Promote那就算有需要組合屋台灣組合屋不夠嗎還是政府不願意提供然後還是慈善團體不願意提供100間組合屋需要從中國特別運過來要從中國特別來救濟有這樣的需求嗎應該是沒有 |
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那一間組合屋的估價,你估價是多少?其實有不同的推估啦,我們前陣子有請工會幫忙評估,大概算一坪啦,我們大概還是用坪的角度來看,一坪大概在七八萬塊。一坪七八萬塊,那組合屋一般是多少坪?二十坪、三十坪,二十坪的左右比較多啦,十幾坪到二十坪。一百多萬嗎?是。 |
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那你講的這個是在當地施工的喔?是那如果是從中國那邊一百千運過來海運、空運運過來來這邊組裝那要花多少錢?這個我就不是很清楚運費應該不便宜 |
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那就很奇怪啊沒有需要那遠巴巴的那麼多人去中國去乞討一個100間的組合屋我們不見得需要就算有需要台灣也絕對供應得起這是在幹什麼我在搞不懂這是在幹嘛所以最近我跟社會覺得越來越脫節了做了很多事情我越來越搞不懂邏輯上不清楚啊為什麼這樣 |
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今天如果說中央政府不願意給你補助經費,像當年高雄氣爆,那時候中央政府不願意給高雄補助。這次地震,全國人民都在關心,中央政府馬上第一時間也說要,立刻就給。然後也已經匡列250億在那邊等他。 |
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這樣子還要弄一個特別條例再來台灣又不缺組合屋台灣隨時也有人願意提供組合屋台灣的善心人士很多啦真的有實際需要這個哪裡是問題一百間組合屋是什麼問題一定有社會上這麼多人的愛心可以提供嘛我也願意如果有這樣的機會我也願意笑眠婆之力啊 |
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那在這樣的狀況之下到底在幹嘛我算是看不懂內政部我覺得你要加油跟地方政府多溝通地方政府有什麼需要是不是我們不夠了解我們的關懷度不夠讓地方政府覺得說我們都沒有在關心他嗎我們都會持續盤點我們的住興補貼跟現在交通部提供的旅館的這個部分合起來其實有超過3000戶的協助 |
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因為民政系統是在你們的手裡,所以我是說對地方政府要多關懷,不要讓地方政府覺得說他們跟我們之間有很大的隔閡。我們是我本江西向明月,不要明月照溝渠。 |
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G7工業國 |
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公開所不再發表反核的言論承認核能環保地位那個環境部的也可以來環境部長官可以來他特別提到了他特別提到了我們認識到核能作為清潔clean零排放人員的潛力 |
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我就請教經濟部,你們還要反核嗎?還要廢核嗎?世界趨勢已經這個樣子,而且新北市的合一的甘土廠、核市場也幫你解套了。這個時間,你要不要順水推舟,接這個球,就開始回應社會的希望用核能當作你的穩定的基站。回應一下。 |
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謝謝委員這邊的提問。我想各式能源都有它的優缺點,我們都會特別去關注。你知道昨天桃園又停電嗎?你知道桃園昨天又停電嗎?我想我有看到那個媒體報導。奇怪,他為什麼停電就停桃園? |
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你看我們外媒你委員也不順眼是不是?還怎麼樣?老是停桃園啊!還是因為說桃園6個立委從事國民黨的所以停就停他們?我想不是這樣的,台電已經很清楚對外說明那是配電系統的一個問題。配電系統?你們台電的總經理還是配電系統專家咧? |
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一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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一天秀一支不是,我想那個臺電原本都在網站裡面有提供他們的備轉容量的狀況對啦,但是它不是像現在瞬間嗎?這個某種程度你們就是想卸責說我給你看喔隨時的你的備轉容量你萬一第3的話第1期你自己要小心停電你自己負責這個樣子的卸責所以臺電沒有回答問題你們現在難道不需要監討你的人員政策嗎? |
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對河南的態度!對河南的態度!我想委員所提到的部分我們實時在檢視我們對供電穩定的相關的措施這個是本來就經濟部的職責一定要去實時的檢視我在問你河山經營的企業是不是確定就停了? |
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呃,相關的這個規定齁,核能的廚藝,核能的這個相關的廚藝有它的規定,那我們必須按照法律規定的這個規範來進行。你說我聽不懂啦,你是確定停啦,不再運轉了是不是啊?當然,因為它的運轉直到...它的發電量從什麼地方來呢?它的發電量從什麼地方...事實上我們有新的電廠會來這個運轉這樣子。新的電廠在哪裡呢? |
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事實上我們對於這個河嶺河山廠的內部有98萬千瓦那沒錯嘛對那會從這個森巴二期還有張安靜100萬千瓦會上來我們會去支應還有大潭電廠的那個電廠你們這個要跟社會講清楚啊到現在為止討厭老是停電可見的電的不夠啊啊人家一定是這樣講全世界這樣子然後呢這個侯友宜的作秀給你們呢就不接我知道我知道對不對我知道你為了保公會老是要在這裡 |
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對不對?你不敢講真話?沒有沒有。現在需要核電啦。好不好請問請問。我們請一下內政部這個處長跟……內政部的處長跟國土…國土書信。兩位長官啊。各位好。 |
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你們要幫賴皮了解到,要拍賴清德的馬屁,要拍得好啊。你用原住民去計畫,賴清德跟原住民沒有任何的關係,他也不是原住民的後代。 |
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區域計畫法 |
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第1期財政、內政、經濟及文化、交通、社會福利及全民共享經濟成果特別預算 |
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第一期只針對賴皮老合法第二期才有金瓜石缺糞分兩階段不是因為金瓜石糾糞的土地使用內容太複雜了它有民宿還有旅館但是賴皮老就沒有理由啊不是它是純住宅啊現在這些礦區的這部分我們當然針對是純住宅的部分先來處理因為金瓜石糾糞還有旅館它背後就涉及建館消防等等的問題 |
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這個可能要最後再疊圖才能做最後的確認。 |
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我們都很清楚啊,你分兩階段,第一階段解套這個賴皮鳥的,第二個階段才解套這個,我覺得用的計畫又是原本想的很不好啦。我想跟我們報告,其實用這樣子的說法其實是很不公平啦。那也是民國77年礦泉廢了之後,地方政府跟主管機關沒有妥適處理該有的行政審判。那你那個部長當幾年了?市長當幾年了?快8年了。 |
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委員長 |
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東華大學這次受傷非常嚴重,零四零三,受損二十多億喔!結果學校還要它募款,只募到一億,到列比前都視訊上課, |
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請問你啊對東華大學這裡面還有更那個的是到六月底之前的視訊上課而且考試還叫他們回來考試外籍學生從國外買機票回來然後實體考試住宿有問題學校校舍有問題結果叫考試實體考試市長你知道這台機嗎 |
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跟委員報告齁,那個東華大學目前已經匡列17.6億,會分3年來協助...你為什麼分3年呢?剛才主計...副主計長就說按照他的講法就可以一次給了他錢,20億你給他分3年,要叫他自己募款,然後再分3年給他,給他先出錢喔?你叫東華大學先出錢喔?他怎麼沒有辦法出錢呢?跟委員報告是依照那個學校的工程規劃,那今年的第1期就會先下去。 |
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不是,你們應該給他錢,不是他叫他先,以後再給他。跟委員報告,我們沒有說東華大學先然後再給他,我們本來就是...你們第一筆的錢什麼時候可以到? |
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4億,我們第1期會有4億,然後今年就會下去。什麼時候?今年大概什麼時候?我們希望下個月移緩季節,我們就移下去。要趕快齁!還有,最後一個問題就是,全國中小學的校舍,因為這個零四零三啊,很多軍力,這個你們什麼時候開始做?有48校。目前48校大概3.1而已,那我們也是用3年還是?對,也是移緩季節。 |
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是預算基礎有沒有今年?什麼時候開始做了?國中小的校舍啊?教室啊?宿舍等等啊?目前我們先移除五千多萬就先處理初步災損什麼時候開始了?什麼時候開始?已經下去了五千多萬幹嘛搞?整體會有3.1而已但五千多萬我們現在第一階段就先下去因為他們要先處理初步災損好 謝謝 |
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陳彥博次長 |
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市長早。市長,我們前瞻特別預算有一個改善停車問題的計畫,從106年提出以後原本是200億,後來109跟111年各修正了一次,這兩次修正經費從200億增加到260億,整個計畫準備要延長到114年,這是正確的嗎?是。 |
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可見,我想我們全國各地停車的問題是很嚴重的,急需要我們大家來想辦法改善。次長請教您一下,您知不知道我們現在台灣的人口年增率第一名的是哪一個縣市?我想委員會這樣問我的話應該是桃園市。 |
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你的猜測其實蠻正確的就是桃園市那其實因為我們從內政部的人口統計顯示我們的總人口數已經正式通過230萬這個大關了那同時到今年3月我們的人口數來到232萬也就是說你看一年之內我們就增加了3萬多人我也最近期的來看年增率全台第一 |
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尤其我們從升格之後,同時有很多的重大建設在進行,所以吸引了很多的外來人口。包括我們不管機場捷運、鐵路地下化、綠線捷運等等,交通建設越來越好以後,勢必人口的入住率會越來越高。所以我們的停車改善的問題,就急需中央趕緊來協助我們。目前我們看到, |
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我們所有的重大建設跟這個停車的問題息息相關特別今天本席在這裡要跟您討論的就是我們在桃園後站的廣伊停車場我想次長不會不知道這個計畫對不對因為這個計畫兩年前王國才部長跟本席我們在這個桃園做考察的時候就特別針對鐵路地下化我們桃園火車站的站體跟這廣伊地下停車場的這個設置我們來做了一個考察 |
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這個廣義停車場現在有相當的急迫性我想必須跟次長來做說明因為呢這個停車場現在在捷運綠線的正軌道旁邊而已就在旁邊那配合我們河西市政府在116年我們整個這個綠線捷運的綠線的鐵路地下化那淺頓要開始開挖了那因為兩個相距相距的非常近如果我們軌道工程挖好之後我們才要再來做這個地下的這個停車場的地下室的工程 |
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這個軌道它就會因為土壤密實跟這個壓力上浮對於我們綠線捷運的進度、品質、安全都會有很大很大的影響所以我們現在廣義停車場的設置有它的必要性同時我們的進程有它的急迫性那這個計畫我講到這裡次長您理解嗎 |
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兩年前部長跟本席在討論做考察的時候部長親口承諾他既然有必要性也需要中央來協助所以在當時我們總預算7億那他當天承諾要來補助3.5億兩年後過去了完全沒有看到任何的補助下來這第一件事第二 |
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大約在一個月前交通委員會我們辦考察再一次來到我們廣義這個停車場結果呢部長說沒有錢沒有預算沒有經費這到底是怎麼回答啊這樣我們桃園市政府以及我們桃園市的市民都非常的錯愕啊那當天呢他是說 |
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有必要,這個庭場非常有必要,但現在沒有經費,4月底的時候再來做一次滾動式檢討喔。那不曉得市長,既然您剛剛一路都表達這個計畫你是知道,現在檢討到哪裡了? |
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我跟委員報告一下,有關剛才委員提到的前瞻的停車場的預算從200億增加到…你只要回答我,現在我廣義這個停車場3.5億的預算現在是怎麼樣?有關這個停車場剛才特別提到說在交通委員考察的時候王部長所提到會滾動式的檢討 |
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市長你不要浪費我時間一直重複我的問題當答案好不好我們現在到底我們的經費有沒有下來有沒有核定啊我們現在的正在做滾動的檢討檢討到哪裡了嗎其實現在是在公路局他們已經檢討的我的了解他們已經檢討盤點的差不多了近期差不多了什麼時候核定這個3.51的預算下來我想我們會相關的程序盡快讓它完備然後就盡快來做相關的核定 |
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一個禮拜之內把這個計畫完備,然後把這3.5億的預算兩年前的承諾來兌現可以嗎?我想我們盡量朝這個方向,請公路局朝這個方向來做出來。好,謝謝市長,但是這件事情務必跟部長來做這個報告。那按照兩年前他的承諾跟今天您的答覆,我們希望一周內我們要看到廣義地下停車場3.5億中央的補助款到位。 |
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接下來,我們要鐵路地下化,我想再花一點點時間。我們看到我們桃園的鐵路地下化,不管是土建標、基建標,都是嚴重的嚴大,還有很多的標都沒有出去。那我們看到,根據鐵道局最新的進度,我們預定的進度本來到現在應該要完成34.5%,但實際的進度只有30.8%日後。 |
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但你不要以為只有落後這4%不算什麼桃園市現在正在重大建設非常多是交通黑暗期你每一個工程的落後都會嚴重影響一個城市的發展所以根據審計部112年我們看到我們的潛在預算的一個審查報告在我們鐵路地下化交通部鐵道局 |
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中央政府疫後強化經濟及全民共享經濟成果特別預算 |
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我們現在用錢的速度遠比工程的進度來得要快很多那現在又因為通貨膨脹我們供應經費上漲在25%現在我們鐵路地下化目前招標的情況平均溢價在122%這些狀況次長都知道對嗎? |
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我們有掌握有掌握很好那更可怕的事情是我們整個鐵路地下化的總預算1048億竟然現在我們的進度只有30%結果花完了用慶了這是事實嗎 |
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現在進度嚴重落後 |
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完成率這麼低,然後我們的總預算花完了,所以上一次部長有承諾說,現在我們要重新來檢討這個計畫,那部長這個計畫什麼時候可以修正完畢,送到本席辦公室來?我想我們鐵道局大概會在6月多會把相關的計畫送到交通部來。6月中、6月15以前可以嗎? |
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最後一點我們因為當初我們的總經費1048億桃園市政府在我們大家的努力以及當時的鄭文燦市長我們爭取到桃園市政府負擔25%現在延宕了而且大概還在追加800億左右我們要求我們還是付原來的25%不能夠把增加的預算增加我們桃園市政府跟桃園市民的負擔希望市長把本席的意見帶回去好嗎 |
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交通部、內政部、農業部 |
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內政部我先就叫交通部陳次是,我也好是這樣子我想剛剛要提到前瞻計畫裡頭的停車場的這個相關的預算當中會考慮到不同地區的人口數但是本席要適當的提醒您應該要就不同地區的這個交通載具的依賴的不同而有所不同的變化為什麼因為有些地方就是軌道運輸很興旺相對而言公路運輸比較 |
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市長,對不對? |
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市長會不會做調整? |
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市長請花次 |
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華智,你之前預言說房價會下跌可是最近又漲了耶2022年第4季到2023年的第4季漲幅增幅不到10%那最近今年第1季又破了10%我看你好像破功了應該是應該是嘛,你有承認嘛那你有沒有挫折感我們花了這麼多時間做5次的信用管制我們花了這麼多時間做修法的工作修了這麼多法結果還漲,你的看法是怎麼樣 |
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確實啦當然這也涉及到因為這幾年國內的經濟狀況確實非常好資金的量能也夠那所以說當然站在內政部的立場我們其實管制面的部分我們能做的大概都盡量在做那目前看到的是資金面跟租稅面可能因為沒有太多的相對應的資質我跟你講資金面我再給你一個數字過去3年來我們的儲區每年增加3兆 |
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往年一年挺多1.5兆,現在每年平均大概3.5兆,我跟您說明今年的第1季你知道增加多少嗎?增加1.5兆,一季等於過去的一年,看你會不會出事? |
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所以說是不是相關的政策工具速度要稍微快一點之前規劃不足的地方我意思是說有幾個狀況第一個現在會帶動房價的科學園區的效應蠻大的這是第一個因為相對所得比較高第二個科學園區周遭的整個開發區不夠 |
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第三個呢,過往我們提出的政策工具稍微偏晚了,就是公共設施、底廢地的部分、5%的部分。這5%的部分本席強烈建議你啊,不要等到蓋的時候再來找這5%啦,應該把它視為公共設施同步進行啦,先蓋,先蓋先贏啦。 |
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沒有錯,現在其實所有的案子我們都已經先要求了,那也會先框...先框列,而且把它當公共設施,同步進行,先去,等到你後面的民間的這個開發商興建的時候,你要再去開社會住宅,有可能嗎? |
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農業部長 |
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市長,你文官歷練非常的久啦,我想就這個部分啦,那個之前那個中國說宣布文旦要進口,你有聽到那個中國那邊有任何的一個訊息來跟我們接觸嗎?沒有透過平台正式通知。都還沒有?目前沒收到。目前都還沒有?那如果是這樣的話,類似的這種水果養套殺的這種狀況,通常是依賴度越高的一個水果的話,那會視為標的可能性會比較大對不對? |
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是這樣子,但是我講我們必須就臺灣的農產品盡量找其他的穩定的國際市場。對,幾年來農業部的努力已經從過去的依賴度的20幾%當中已經降到約莫10%啦,我大概有知道那個數據啦。但是我要請教你呢,你有沒有預測過接下來它會用哪一個水果來做操作的工具,有沒有? |
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我想我們不做任何預測。不做任何預測?我們要幫我們的農產品。你要做預防啊!防範預染啊!要預防的方式就是我們不斷的替我們的農產品做…你現在就要想一想哪些水果物品依賴度比較高或農漁產品依賴度比較高了,你現在手頭有沒有想到哪一個? |
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我覺得所有的都有可能,沒有啦,他要跟你談啊,不然在管你哪一行啊。所以我們其實不做這樣,但是替每一項產品都做最好的準備。因為不同世紀都有產品啊,沒有錯啊。那鳳梨有沒有舊啊?你覺得鳳梨有沒有鳳梨舊的回答? |
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當然不依靠他說我們為什麼日本及其他市場都有鳳梨在出去,當然有做多元化的,不是只有鮮果。我心裡還是要跟你講,他每一項都有可能,你每一個Priority你還是要準備一下啦,哪一個可能性比較大,我們準備開來可嗎?不要每次的時候我們要賣這些水果,賣到來不及,吃太慢了。 |
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多元方案,不一定是新的。 |
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響鐘 |
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其實在台南的整個住宿型的資源部件也都持續在進行中,那社區式的資源部件其實應該是也達到快百分之百了。快百分之百了嗎?我們再思考一下好不好,因為台南的地蠻多的,台唐的地也蠻多的。 |
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接著我們請侯孟凱委員質詢。 |
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主席,麻煩請交通部次長及內政部次長。 |
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我想今天各委員為地方發聲天經地義,但我們把錢花在刀口上。那我先請教一下在今天特別有講到就是疫後的觀光的部分。疫後觀光我覺得交通部這也是重中之重,這也是我們編列預算很希望能夠達到的。 |
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去年我們達成600萬的觀光客但全世界其實已經高達87%是恢復到以前的一個情況那本席特別有關注到在這一次來講疫後有兩個國家的觀光客其實消退的非常大市長知道哪兩個國家嗎?亞洲啦日本跟韓國日本的觀光客消減了6成韓國的觀光客消減了4成 |
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當然中國大陸那是因為這個政策因素我想我們先今天就就教國際觀光客的部分我覺得日本跟韓國觀光客過去我們來往的這個頻率其實也互動也蠻頻繁的但是日本削減了6成韓國削減了4成我覺得這是一個很大的一個警訊 |
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有沒有掌握說那到底現在我們這些預算我們要持續的投入甚至今天要解凍的一個預算我們要再怎麼樣投入能夠針對韓國日本能夠把吸引這些優質的觀光客能夠回來本席的新北市不管是我們淡水不管是我們相關的地方好多韓國日本的觀光客都很喜歡啊但現在大家商圈都講是說就是還沒有回復到以前疫情前的榮景的一半來簡單說明一下我想跟委員報告一下 |
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市長你講的這都是例行,我現在問你比較具體的做法,我們疫後的預算 |
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今天要解凍,今天要討論,那預算花了,那我們到底要怎麼樣能夠具體針對這部分然後來吸引這些觀光客過來呢?其實在這一個預算裡頭其實有一個很重要的是自由行的部分來加碼五千元的這一部分那這一部分從去年的這個實施的經驗我們看來對於日本跟韓國的觀光客很具吸引力所以我們會持續在這邊來繼續至少我覺得這樣子真的講蠻籠統的啦 |
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會後你再讓本席知道一下說你們比較具體的做法而且真的是希望是能夠增加這一些自由型然後優質的遊客能夠來到我們台灣這是為我們台灣的整個觀光市場那另外一部分會請教一下交通的輕軌道建設 |
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本期的選舉裡面現在有幾條輕軌都是已經送了可行性評估包括說巴黎輕軌因為本來希望是淡江大橋2025年能夠完工的時候巴黎輕軌一定的實施但目前沒有辦法可是可行性評估也已經送到了交通部太阪輕軌 |
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行政院陳建源院長已經核定了第一期叫做五泰輕軌,但是那是可行性評估,可是我們更希望是能夠後發先至,泰山到板橋的泰板輕軌能夠連接萬大線,能夠連接板南線,能夠連接台鐵、高鐵,其實對於整個地方的民眾更加的需要。請教這兩個現在進度勒,因為據我所知都已經送進去應該快要半年囉。 |
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對,我跟委員報告一下,先講巴黎輕軌好了。巴黎輕軌的部分,當然新北市有做一些相關的研究,我們也把相關的計畫報到行政院去了。那行政院大概有合乎,就是請新北市政府再做一些檢討以後再報。 |
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已經報一報再報?不能每一次報都是你要報一次問題講清楚有那麼難嗎?這個巴黎輕軌也已經是可行性評估就我了解送到我們鐵道局鐵道局也已經通過之後才從交通部送往行政院所以照理講專業的部分可行性載運量以及後續的工程難度交通部已經都做專業的審查了 |
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我跟委員報告其實這個巴黎輕軌其實他還要更重要是到了淡水的這一部分所以有一個淡海輕軌的這個串聯的營運的方式路線這一部分我們希望請新北市政府再去釐清一下所以這一部分也就是為什麼行政院在核複的公文裡頭特別提到這一段然後因為有這樣的一個因素所以相關的運量的預測也希望他再做精準的一個分析所以相關運量跟串聯 |
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請榮許,因為這兩個不是我們在地人,不過請榮許本席糾正一下,是淡海輕軌二期要連接到巴黎過來,是延伸到巴黎,並不是巴黎這邊做過來,這是不一樣的概念,不過不管怎麼樣都是連接兩岸。 |
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本席是不是能夠再請因為次長這個部分特別強調是新北市政府其實這兩個計畫都已經送入交通部並且本席了解是往行政院送是行政院現在在打回票那中間到底是什麼問題其實也應該要一次釐清讓新北市當然應該要回應要回應但是一次釐清不要來來回回兩三次今天講ABC下一次再講DCE那永遠沒有辦法聚焦想做就我們就應該共同推動 |
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法定人數不足 |
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白市長,04、03地震,那我們看到當然是花蓮,鎮央在花蓮,但實際上新北、台北等幾個都會區也都有受損。而且有些人,我這個不是說發生在哪裡都不好,但有些人真的講是說還好這一次不是發生在人口比較密集的地方,鎮央啦,不然可能那個後果更嚴重。 |
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我們現在要做的就是防範未來,本席到目前做了解是說新北市在這次04、03完之後才增加了12處的建物是紅單跟黃單,分別是5個紅單跟7個黃單,才那麼少嗎? |
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他們會陸續報,其實像新竹縣也是希望說我們給他到5月中陸陸續去報進來,我們都接受。對,那但是現在本席更要問的問題啊,就是有很多人他的一些建築可能第一相對老舊,其實已經三四十年四五十年的房子,第二他也沒有管委會,就是以前的老公寓,那你如果說要做建物的檢定或說這個建物到底是安不安全,有規列,但他可能他也不一定, |
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我們都會補助啊,我們都會補助。 |
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但現在補助的比例呢?其實我們是初評是幾乎百分百補助你現在匡列了多少預算來做這個補助?那個好幾年了好幾年了,不是只有現在好幾年,但現在重點在於是這次04、03之後我相信一定有這個需求我們鼓勵大家趕快來如果說你告訴大家的話,說不定大家全都來那那個時候你的預算原額夠不夠?其實因為是基金預算,所以說不夠我們大概就是抄併決來處理就可以你匡列多少預算? |
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這個其實就是重點啦本席想強調的是說為什麼很多外界在質疑講是說哇這個有什麼04、03地震的這個特別條例本席有提到一個觀念啦這一次真的是天佑台灣天佑中華民國一直都是天佑台灣 |
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所以說在這個鎮央如果沒有發生那個人口密集的地方可是我們真的要防範未來那新北市已經我相信台南我相信高雄好多地方的縣市也都有超過40年50年以上的房子之前也有一個數據全台灣超過30年以上的房子佔一半 |
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所以如果說我們能夠趁現在這個時候還沒有在下一次天災我們不知道什麼時候下一次天災再來但是我們應該要去做這樣的一個建物總體檢那建物總體檢的費用到底夠不夠以及我們能不能大規模做做完之後後續能夠怎麼樣來重建跟補助我覺得這才是關鍵所以我們一起努力我們鼓勵全國有需要的民眾都趕快來申請謝謝好 謝謝侯孟楷委員的質詢接下來我們請吳佩儀委員質詢 |
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內政部次長 |
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市長,剛前面我也有提到說臺灣處地震帶全國性的建築總體檢重要。但我要說啊,地震已經發生之後,但是呢,地方政府對於有破損防護的檢測也很重要。為什麼呢?因為我們中央剛推出了我們地震後的震災專案。那我現在遇到個案的問題是這次臺北市也有災情,就在我們南機場的公路。 |
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我們現在看到中央訂定辦法裡面針對紅黃單的受災戶我們有生活補助那另外對於房屋破損的受災戶我們也有租金補貼因為我們讓他安置有一個期間有地方可以住但是我們這個社區裡面當時市政府他來這個計事公會來檢測只檢測了幾條巷子 |
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現在後面有幾條巷子還沒有檢測所以呢這個專案上路在申請方面可能會有一些爭議現在好多民眾已經在問了說我家的房子也破損很嚴重那市政府沒有來檢測我現在要怎麼來申請這個受地震所影響的這個受災補助我希望我們內政部可以去了解一下這個全國在有發生災情的地方縣市目前這個相關的情況其實還是可以請他們先直接找其實祭司去檢去看那如果說貸政出評的話 |
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每戶有15000塊,我們基本上是內政部會補助的。是,這個地方政府要主動來協助民眾檢測,尤其是外顯有明顯的破損,那不然說民眾自己還要來想辦法求助,所以我希望我們內政部去瞭解一下這個地方的狀況。好,我們跟台北市政府也瞭解一下,我們跟市府瞭解一下。好,那接下來我要很關心的是我們 |
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對,我們內政部在林口市大運有一座第一個是中央到地方參與的社宅。那前陣子在我們空總有一個公共藝術成果的展出,我不知道次長你有沒有去看?有。那我是去看了,看了我覺得非常的感動。確實。 |
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我自己是在台北市的中正萬華區尤其是在萬華我發現社區的共融社區的互動是非常重要的那林口社宅的公共藝術我們看到其實就打破了過去監察院有對我們的公共藝術有一個糾正的報告說很多公共藝術都是未辦而辦甚至都大量的直接找廠商代辦去了看不到這個公共藝術的社會成果但是在我們林口社宅裡面的公共藝術它很多是社區型的行動計畫 |
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甚至我們看到弱勢戶的孩子跟長者他們自主來組成社團自己去舉辦了更多延續性的活動我覺得這是非常好的社區成果生活美學才是核心沒有錯甚至還有以適應內容的產出少了郭子乾、郭歌來演出真正把我家富貴發號電視劇這也是我們社宅的公共藝術成果 |
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我覺得只辦一個展覽其實不太夠要大肆的去宣傳最重要的是我希望它不是昙花一現因為我的選區接下來馬上就有這個萬華安居也是我們住宿中心的社宅即將要啟用了接下來有林鄉好市那在我們南機場的對面國防部9號基地我們也感謝內政部合併了即將來規劃社宅也謝謝委員支持 |
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主席,我希望我們的公共藝術的計畫能夠有一個參考,然後持續性的來延續。我們現在已經組織了更專業的團隊,我們自己內部也有,然後跟外部的委員,其實一定會有很棒的公共藝術計畫會提出來。 |
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是,我們中央的社宅的社區融合我覺得我們要去做一個這個表彰那除了社區以外社宅很重要臺北市民最關心的就是社宅的租金的定價的公式因為過去在臺北市我們曾經發生過有天價租金的社宅那就是在這個地方政府 |
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各個縣市之間對於社宅租金的訂定公式竟然不同。比方說臺北市一度要把地價稅、房屋稅都要去納入這個公式裡面其中一部分。那為什麼要納入公司?因為他要賺自償率嘛。所以對於社宅租金的定價有過很多的討論以及辯論。那未來中央的社宅、中央社宅開始在臺北市好幾樣要啟用然後甚至在規劃。我們對於租金的定價有沒有什麼樣的原則? |
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各位報告,其實當然這一題經過了很多的討論,那我們大概發現到說,如果像台北和桃園目前純然以所得稅申報的資料來當作租金定價的基礎,其實確實有蠻大的副作用已經陸陸續續產生出來。所以我們真的很誠懇地跟地方政府在溝通,我們建立一套, |
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可以讓社宅制度長治久安,也讓民眾可負擔,均衡這個的一個方案。那實質上其實全國多數縣市是認同,那當然還在持續溝通當中。我相信啊,社宅租金的計算的標準應該是一國一制才是對的啦。那所以說這部分大家再多討論,我相信是有solution的啦。 |
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市長我必須要特別在這個時候提醒你,就是因為我認為我們中央設宅的租金啊,你一旦定出來了,它有定毛的效果。是。你有可能幫忙抑制設宅的租金,你如果沒有試算好,也有可能不小心出現了漲價。 |
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所以說我們要有原則要有公式也要有試算當然當然因為其實有些現階段收費的問題其實我剛講很多副作務已經跑出來後續的收尾處理其實困難度蠻高的那當然這部分我們再繼續溝通請務必要進行周詳的試算那我們希望社宅的租金訂定出來是確實達到我們要照顧弱勢的原則 |
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本則上當然是可負擔,可負擔,但是因地制宜還是要不同。好,謝謝。我要跟主席見30秒。我請這個速發部次長。理事請。 |
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市長在我們前瞻的凍結案裡面有一項是我們通訊網路數位韌性計畫那因為我們事務發布對衛星的發展這有非常的關切當時這個凍結的理由其中一項是台灣的衛星通訊有憂慮由特定業者有政治傾向導致國家安全受影響我們現在的這個衛星計畫已經有跟兩家業者進行合作了對不對我們有沒有排除這個疑慮 |
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跟委員報告,現在目前我們的這個所謂的非同步衛星的部分已經有跟兩家國外的業者合作,那這個兩家業者我們都有確認過目前沒有關的。是哪兩家?一個是SES一個是OneWeb。好,所以不會有特定政治傾向國家安全受影響的?OneWeb這家公司有英國政府的特別股權。是,那這一次呢這個跟OneWeb公司的合作在我們花蓮鎮在裡面是不是也有所運用? |
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是,謝委員的隨詢,我們這一次是特別在花蓮政戰的時候,我們第一時間就請我們的電信技術中心啟動我們的網路應變車,然後接下來我們第二天也感謝國軍跟內政部的合作,幫我們利用直升機幫我們把這個可移動式的OneWeb的接收器都被遇到天下,直接啟用。最後要提醒的就是,我想我們今天已經達到凍結的條件,但是呢,解凍的條件,但是我們希望要持續來投注預算,我們所謂網路的韌性計畫非常的重要,我們希望要持續的來進行。 |
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謝謝委員,我們繼續努力。好,謝謝吳佩玲的諮詢。緊接我們請葛如君委員諮詢。謝謝主席。有請交通部、教育部、數位部、次長以及國科會副主委。謝謝。點名到部會的次長跟副主委,請出列。 |
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四位次長好,最近有一則新聞在社群平台引起了許多的阿宅跟民眾討論。有一款可以提前通報的地震APP,因為通報率很高,引起民眾的注意,一週內被下載了30萬次。APP爆紅以後,媒體追蹤發現是17歲的高中生,被稱讚是一人贏過國家隊。 |
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雖然我個人並不一定同意這種過度天才化的描述方式但是同學有心能做這樣的東西應該是一個美談但是因為剛好漏了未經授權使用氣象署的數據有違反氣象法的疑慮最後不斷地進行道歉在APP道歉一次在媒體向全國的民眾道歉想請教一下交通部的陳次長氣象法第18條確實有這樣的規定 |
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但是那已經都執行很久了,近半年有沒有查到這些未經通報、未經授權引用數據的案件,有嗎?我跟委員報告,這一部分我手頭上現在是沒有資料。希望去查一下,不要說是林同學出來了,我們就來調查林同學。那他這麼長的時間,我們應該要早就發現了,不然的話民眾可能會合理懷疑啊,西巷署是不是呆乎職守啊? |
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這個APP已經上架快一年的時間,都沒有查到,那媒體來報導了以後呢,一人贏過國家隊,腦兇,然後來調查,我覺得這,我們相信不是,但希望證明給民眾看。同時我們也來看一下氣象署官方的地震預報的APP,裡面的平均評分只有2顆星,滿分是5顆。 |
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民眾就說奇怪了為什麼我們用民間做出來的地震到達前就會示警中央做出來卻有時候不行民眾反應有時候會甚至晚3到5分鐘這些負面的評價不知道交通部有沒有看到難道官方開發出來的APP不夠好用 |
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有人做出更好用的那就解決這個更好用的人那就變成官方的最好用我相信不是所以我們想要來提倡一下公私協力我相信我們行政院各部份應該都是一個團隊那個數位部次長在這我們幫你們廣告一下這就是近期你們宣傳的公共城市平台 code.gov.tw為什麼我會這樣講呢是因為我非常認同KNY |
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7538.362 |
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台灣天氣地震速報APP的開發者陳坤柱先生的觀點,說市場應該直接面對第一線民眾,尤其這樣個人化的服務可能跟高階技術的研發系統都非常有關,對此一定可能是沒有民間單位擅長,因此公私協力非常重要。 |
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所以五花八門的這些東西又要耗費巨資,我們是不是來響應一下,希望可以響應這些open data,public code,我只是在幫你廣告,不用擔心。希望用這種方式,可能不只是都沒有bug,還可以變得更加的好用。那請交通部陳次長請回。 |
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希望可以響應一下好不好不會交流那現在呢同時也是英雄出少年的時代我們來看一下2018年呢就有一個美國的女孩子高中生聽到網路霸凌的消息做了一個叫Rethink的一個鍵盤APP她們自己偵測不當字眼提醒使用者多想三秒去解希望能夠降低這些網路霸凌的問題這個APP這個高中生的開發者人生發生轉變不僅開了公司上電視的節目 |
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還在節目上面受到投資人入股20%其他例子我就不用講了很多英雄出少年名人高中的高三生這個教育部次長知道這個例子嗎有沒有給予鼓勵有沒有嘉獎他有沒有讓這個變成一個好的範例這我們回去再確認世界的比賽那我們希望這都是好的事情但是我們到底有沒有一些相關的資助想請教一下三位次長 |
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假設有一位高中生要投入科技創新的研究,比如說開發一款APP,未來可能來申請大學入學,請教一下教育部、數位部以及國會會,目前是否有關的研究計畫補助,可以申請有還是沒有? |
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對此希望能夠相關 |
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但到底有還是沒有,一個月內將研議結果以書面提供為本席,同時也建請教育部去設立一個窗口,協助有興趣進行科研創新的高中職學生,提供他們包含政府資料授權的使用方法,以相關的政策跟法規面向的諮詢,並將研議結果於一個月內以書面提供為本席。 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
7670.428 |
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副主委,今年1月9日,全國人民都受到一則非常轟動的國家級警報。陳建仁院長甚至在當時質詢說:「哎喲,飛彈來了!」結果改口說是看錯了。 |
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這個我們在防災中心的網站上面查詢,到今天為止,國防部依然還是只有非但相關的防空警報。請教一下副主委,為什麼當時這個與範本不符的訊息,可以從災防訊息廣播平台CPE發送出去,難道這之前沒有檢核機制嗎? |
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跟委員報告,那這個是主管機關,那我們災防中心是一個平台,那主管機關他的範本是原來寫好的。所以他可以不用檢核就送出去了是不是?他們內部是有檢核的。所以他們檢核,你們這裡不檢核嗎?我來看一下,事實上你們在平台測試唯一運作作業裡面的第8項裡面,就有說知識通安全及訊息內容檢核的檢測作業。 |
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測試的時候要檢核,發送出去的時候不用嗎?後來國防部雖然更正了訊息寫launch vehicle,但是這兩則訊息,不管這一則還是那一則,不管是飛彈還是launch vehicle,全部都不在範本的樣態裡面。其次,我們也看到告警的資料裡面,也完全沒有這方面的,就是說, |
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我完全沒有看到關於MISO訊息發布的記錄我們在民生市井公開資料平台的訊息1月9號則是空的啦1月9號這一天的這個訊息竟然在各個平台有三種不同的樣態是不是要篡改歷史的記錄啊還是到底是什麼原因內部的溝通流程到底是什麼 |
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有沒有公文往來的記錄到底發生了什麼樣的事情我們去考察的時候跟我們說歷史資料可以下載結果我們真的去用的時候只能下載7天我想要建議一下公開的這種特殊的情況首先應該要相互對比要檢核再來呢如果有特殊的狀況考核考量的過程當中的溝通記錄完整的報告都應該要提供出來 |
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同時也應該依循程序建立新的訊息範本所以在此本席請國科會針對1月9號國防部警報事件的完整時間軸歷史資料中間有沒有會議記錄公文聯絡了誰、什麼樣的判斷討論程序依據等等請在因為這已經發生過請在三天內提供本席完整報告本席以上的建議請一個月內研議改善作為以後提供會便行 |
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同時剛剛這些樣態都要拜託整理一下,可以嗎?好,可以。可以。好,謝謝葛如今委員的諮詢。緊接著請王洪瑋委員諮詢。好,謝謝主席。我請農業部。農業部,督此。 |
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委員好、次長好。在我們審計部在檢討整個的前瞻期的預算裡面,曾經發現我們的前瞻預算的比例的分配出現了大小眼。很多的縣市,它所拿到整體的前瞻預算的金額事實上是有非常非常大的差距。 |
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譬如說像台北市跟高雄市的差距就將近十倍之多。好那現在我想請問一下在治水的部分因為過去台北市是一塊錢都沒有拿到但是在去年底的時候 |
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台北市的翡翠水庫管理局曾經以前瞻基礎建設的特別預算水與環境向下向我們農業部申請了有關於水與環境的預算,而且預算的金額極少,但是最後好像是被打回票。 |
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我不曉得次長知道這事情嗎?我不清楚你不清楚的話我希望次長能夠回去就是針對我們臺北市翡翠水庫管理局其實這個金額非常少只有700萬可是呢仍然以所謂的跟這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
請辭次 |
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市長,在你們的報告裡面,你們說觀光署為了加速擴大吸引國際觀光客,編列了53億。 |
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而且呢,說到113年3月底,累計的分配數是28.84億,執行率百分之百。而且主要是辦理什麼呢?辦理這個抽獎。然後針對242萬名的旅客都可以參加抽獎。請問一下,我們現在這個抽獎的計畫還在執行中嗎? |
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目前還在執行中還在執行中 那個抽獎是多少錢?五千塊嗎?五千元 對就是只要來台的國際觀光客、旅客都可以去抽獎 中獎率是不是很高啊?中獎率我沒有算過 |
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目前大概應該是講有265萬人登記目前有39萬人是中獎265萬人登記39萬人中獎所以這個比例也蠻高的請問一下你們光是這個抽獎花在這個國際觀光客旅客的這個金額有多少?你們都要爭取預算解凍你們這個是被凍結的啊 |
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所以光是花債給國際觀光旅客,給他們抽獎,台灣其實蠻大方的,就有25億之多,是吧? |
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時間暫停主席時間暫停這個是他們來解凍的在他們的報告裡面然後上來還在一問三不知你們要預算解凍嗎?相關的預算執行是25億25億之多你覺得這個有效嗎?花25億去給國際觀光旅客這真的是大禮包耶25億耶 |
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| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會福利及全民共享經濟成果特別預算 |
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所以我要講的是我們今天花了這麼多的錢有25億是用作是去讓你來抽獎而且抽獎率非常高可是問題是我們還有這麼大的觀光逆差所以請問這樣的大禮包這樣的花錢方式是對我們吸引國際觀光客真的有幫助嗎? |
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| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
我想跟委員報告一下我們從這樣的一個預算來看其實在剛才也特別提到112年我們也透過這樣的方式也達成了這個600萬的人次那到目前為止呢其實這樣的方式剛才有特別提到像韓國的旅客經過這樣的方式他其實他已經恢復到疫情前的95%其實已經幾乎是快 |
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所以你認為人家來是為了來幫給我們抽獎的嗎?是因為我覺得這是舍本逐末,其實老蔣這真的是舍本逐末。這樣的一個又一手段方法吸引這個國際觀光客來台,他來台以後 |
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| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
8201.739 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
所以你要持續到什麼時候?你要用這樣的方式持續到什麼時候? |
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就是我們特別預算到114年結束為止。114年,所以一直要到明年底,有繼續這樣的大禮包。然後另外我要特別說,我非常不滿意,就是這個事在於報告,我還不是出現在報告外的題目。然後你們顯然準備不足,然後顯然你們對這筆預算,你們是覺得好像要不要給你們無所謂。我覺得剛才光是看你們,你們已經耽誤我很多時間在那邊交頭接耳。好,謝謝。 |
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8252.823 |
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請內政部花次及國土署 |
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8280.603 |
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前瞻基礎建設計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
8310.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
8318.369 |
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有關臺灣地震其實狀況非常頻繁我想你非常清楚外強在全國各縣市 |
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極端氣候、熱脹冷縮也好,包括地震過後外牆的剝落,這個部分是很多民眾所關心。所以常常在訊息上、在LINE上看到很多長輩都在講說,地震過後盡量走到高樓大廈稍微要注意一點,要快點經過。我們之前也有看過冷氣外掛在上面,然後砸到大學生在等公車的大學生。 |
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我覺得在這一塊上當然我們內政部目前有相關的法規就是我們可以用相關的這個都更的補助辦法來做重建、整建跟維護對不對是好但是我就必須要提這個重建整建的維護我們有綁一些條件比如說都要用更新會或者是管委會或者是更新事業單位來做申請 |
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但是花次你應該很清楚臺灣很多老舊社區根本這些四五十年或三十年以上的根本很多人連管委會都沒有成立所以各縣市其實現在有更多的彈性就是說有些是以凍為主或甚至是以戶為主他們就整合之後他們就聯署之後有一定的證明方式之後他們就可以來申請 |
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8420.983 |
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面臨地震過後我其實我非常的期待希望中央可以在相關的補助要點辦法上做修正可以有更多的彈性在全國試用上我們可以給予更多的協助謝謝委員這部分確實我們也在思考一方面當然我們現在有補助這個公寓也成立管委會但是確實很不積極啦很不積極所以說您剛剛講的方向正是我們現在正在 |
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那它是這個部分可不可以在一個禮拜之內我們可以有更明確的方向出來比較難這麼快因為終究它是一個大政策它需要而且那什麼時候可以出來你也了解什麼時候可以出來520的介面所以說可能還是要到新政府這是大多數的事務官都是在的這些他們都要繼續研究所以你可不可以給我一個時間點讓地方各縣市還有現在面臨30年20年以上我就不要再花時間其實地方政府如果已經鬆綁了我們都會認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
8451.545 |
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8452.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
8476.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
接下來我要問第二個有關都更的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
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8528.005 |
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花子有關於我們現在容積管制在容積管制之前圓融的認定的部分我們過去之前是用鉛筆來去做計算這個部分有關於都更本65條的獎勵方案我想你非常清楚在中高樓層我們都知道中高樓層整合上其實非常不容易來看再看下一張所以我們早期是用還沒有實施這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
8531.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
8531.446 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
主管預算凍結書面報告案 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
8562.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
8589.527 |
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佣金管制之後,因為沒有圓融界認定,所以我們只適用一種獎勵,這個就會牽涉到兩種問題,一般很多人都覺得說我應該是用建造申請來去切那個界面點,所以在現在面臨很多實施佣金管制前後,會有兩種標準剛好卡在那個界線上,這個就是65條的部分,所以花次我知道這個部分我們內部已經在做討論, |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
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8591.088 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
8606.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
8630.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
8658.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
可以的話容我們一個月之內好不好好 謝謝花次然後另外全國的都更的腳步我們都希望透過都更的法令的鬆綁也好你們覺得合理的方式來處理包括協議合建的部分相關的這個契稅跟土地增值稅的相關的減免可以比照我們現在權力變換的部分我也希望可以朝這方向去思考 |
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8674.104 |
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包括我們時程獎勵的部分現在在113年5月16號其實我們就剛好到這個期限所以新的那個時程獎勵的部分我覺得可能可以繼續思考是不是有機會往 |
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| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
主席主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
8700.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
8702.969 |
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因為10層獎勵終究還是有它的本質,不宜再有新的10層,那就沒有10層獎勵的意義。我們有開另外的獎勵項目來替代。 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
8717.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
8718.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
謝謝李延秀委員的質詢,請接受蘇曉慧委員質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
8743.851 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
8765.686 |
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好,謝謝主席。我們請花次長。花次,不用坐了啦。我叫你坐得快,你就不來。花次請。我本來是想要請所有的在場的各部會次長啦。因為我覺得我要講的這個跟大家都有關係。不過這樣太多人了,所以因為下一題也還是花次的題,所以就整齊你代表啦。好,委員好。好,次長好齁。 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
8766.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
8778.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
我想今天在這裡再次的處理前瞻預算這應該是蔡英文總統任期內我們大家一起處理前瞻預算的最後一次其實在這裡講前瞻我真的是非常的感慨 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
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8794.419 |
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因為從106年蔡英文總統提出了這個前瞻的計畫之後其實我們在國會殿堂裡橋也進行了非常多的攻防就在這個空間就在這個台子上就在這個角落我就站在這裡對著國民黨丟來的麵粉和丟來的水球這整間的狀況當時我想大家應該記憶猶新 |
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8803.067 |
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8828.793 |
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我就在這裡講其實前瞻不是只有支援高科技前瞻前瞻翻轉成瞻就是前瞻我們就是要拿這樣的特別預算到台灣過去沒有足夠經費的鄉村到其他的地方讓我們的基礎建設可以做得更好所以剛剛有許多國民黨委員還是持續在問說 |
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8829.793 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
8858.624 |
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前瞻預算做了這麼多年,到底人民的感受如何?我也想跟大家分享,也順便謝謝所有辛苦的公務人員,因為有你們的支持,大家可以看一看。你看,有前瞻計算的配合,然後還有各位的努力,就像我的選區,剛剛的新陰題外變道,一條再與河道徵地徵路的新路開闢出來了,我們的交通瓶頸打通了。 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
8888.384 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
還有我們的山陰縣、樹林萬大縣過去經費不足的捷運沒有辦法凍光的捷運凍起來了現在一步一步朝向要實現的狀況在接下來更實際的台水公司因為各位有了預算之後再加上大家的努力我們的高地現在有水喝山下不淹水山上有水喝甚至是市區的水管都可以更新這不就是人民期待的好生活嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
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8904.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
說實在的我們從剛剛的軌道建設到現在地方居民每天在走的人行步道每一項每一項甚至是連教育部相關搬搬有冷氣也是有這樣的前瞻預算在裡面 |
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8905.62 |
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所以要知道這樣的一筆錢一筆預算如果用得好真的是對過去少資源易住到的鄉村就像我的選區也沒有很遠是新北市的樹林因割新莊而已但我們可以改善的基礎建設真的非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
8925.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
8946.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
市長,今天你在這裡,剛剛也有很多建設是跟你的部會相關的。請問,你個人支不支持,如果我們520的新政府上任之後,我們再來找尋裁員,或者編列計畫,我們再提供一個像前瞻這樣的預算,你覺得可行嗎?你支持嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
8948.171 |
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8971.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
我想國家建設本來就是要有些大破例來執行一些大方案,那任何一個新政府的上台,確實是有這樣子的必要,來用一個更大的視野改善一些長期結構性的困境,那用充分的預算來執行是對的。老實講啦,今天是在談解凍,但是我們回去地方,大家都在問,委員,你把他們都裝水貢啊? |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
8974.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
9002.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
兩邊的政黨在這裡吵得不可開交好像前瞻是很邪惡的不好的他們都一直在反對但是回到地方以後等於是大家都在吵吵的是預算可不可以多來一點我選區 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
9033.433 |
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變成是在院內吵架,院外爭取,這種奇特的現象。所以我是覺得啦,如果可以的話,未來的新政府上任之後,實在是應該繼續延續這樣的好的概念啦。這是第一題,也藉這個機會向在場所有認真執行計畫的公務員人士致上謝意。謝謝你們改善了所有台灣人民的基礎建設以及每天的生活。 |
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9034.639 |
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9061.92 |
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好那另外第二題的話其實也是要問次長啦這就真的是你的題目大家也都在問耐震補強的部分喔那我想耐震補強其實是在地震之後我們在做了非常多的地震相關救災也好補助措施也好另外一個針對既有狀況的加強那次長你知道我們現在的耐震補強其實有計畫但是執行率不是很好你知道最主要的原因你會歸結於什麼 |
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9078.602 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
我想第一個當然整合的困難還有這個整合困難整合困難是關鍵那當然就是另外就是費用的負擔是啊另外的費用負擔嘛其實是這兩個最多第三個還有另外一個啦其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
9080.022 |
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9105.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
這個地方的這個建物如果被評價為說需要內政補強那對當地居民來講哇!我的房價是不是會有影響其他的人會不會覺得我這不安全其實心情上反而是變成他去評估反而他受損害那我想市長你很清楚這個狀況另外兩點也是我完全同意的所以我認為其實我們是不是可以跟國土署這邊商量一下把這個意見帶回去 |
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| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
9129.846 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
我會提出一部專法那也請國土署這邊是不是可以一起來討論我們確實是應該制定一個專法在經費上面可以更大力的補足在同意權的部分上面在區分所有權人同意的層數上面是不是可以比照都更或者老舊建物等等它可以往下下修讓這個同意可以比較快執行那最後 |
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與其說它被評估為該內政,它覺得心情上受損,不如我們是不是可以設計一個制度,你補強完內政,我給你一個徽章,代表是你這個建物已經經過內政補強。我覺得這樣反向思考,其實反而是可以鼓勵私部門來做這件事情,是這樣認同嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
9164.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
謝委員真是太棒了這也是我們現在積極想要來做的事情那這樣的話是不是可以請國土署這邊在跟我們辦公室在藉由三法的部分進行討論下個會期我們共同提出謝謝謝謝蘇曉鶴委員的質詢我們休息10分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
9777.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
9779.978 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
好,請各位就座肅靜。我們繼續開會。好,我們繼續開會喔。那接著我們請林營委員質詢。林委員請。 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
9801.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
有請書發部次長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
9834.289 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
今年3月27日,本席在教育委員會質詢文化部史哲部長時,部長很明確地表達新聞有價、媒體溢價是世界各國都是現在進行式。 |
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9834.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
9855.029 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
而且,文化部所輔導的北市報業工會也好,雜誌工會,他們都認同要積極推動媒體溢價法,又或者要設立培育第4權任性特別基金。所以我要請問次長,就是你是否同樣也支持新聞有價,或者認同台灣要設置媒體溢價法?次長。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
9882.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
謝謝委員隨選,那有關這個新聞有價這個部分沒有問題,行政院跟跨部會參與的,包括數位部、文化部,通常會都認為新聞有價,這個是完全沒有問題的。但是不是要用媒體議價法這個路線,目前行政院並沒有確認,而且世界各國也不是都走媒體議價法,媒體議價法在世界各國是少數,多數還是走那個所謂的著作權、著作理解權。 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
9884.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
9884.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
蘇慧卿議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
9905.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
9924.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
我的明定就是數位發展部就是主責機關。那我想歷經這個9個月的等待跟不連續的屆期,那這一次的會期我又再度的提案。那在這個9個月當中,我想各國的腳步是持續在前進。像是印尼,它已經這個簽署法令,就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
9927.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
9951.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
要求數位平台應付費才能使用媒體內容而最致力於將歐盟的著作臨階權概念內國法化的這個法國當然至今他無法有效的對於數位平台做出規範可是面對數位平台的這個楊鳳英偉他無奈的也只能一次次的開罰那我想台灣喔 |
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9954.816 |
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9974.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
就如同您說的,每個部位其實都認同新聞有價,可是至今我們還是不清楚主責單位到底是哪裡。討論了三年,還在澳洲的專法的模式,或者是歐盟的著作臨接權的模式在那邊搖擺不定。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
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國內學者已經說得非常明白,立法是確保媒體與平台公平競爭的唯一方法,新設專法是最好的方式。歐盟著作凍結犬的模式恐怕不是值得學習的方式。 |
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成功大學法律系的許教授採取著作靈接權模式的法國為例。用法國的狀況來看,數位平台還是坐擁不對等的市場與協商方式,拒絕與媒體進行透明、客觀、公開與誠信的協商。 |
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那最終你還是要仰賴所謂的競爭委員會的介入才可以發揮著作凝結權的功效。所以換句話說,如果達到實質有效的媒體議價,要求平台告知所謂的評估報酬等必要的資訊, |
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那而且在協商不成的時候要由仲裁委員會出面那並指定獨立監管人來進行後續的管理跟執行那這些都是必要的措施所以請教次長你認同這樣的說法嗎? |
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是,跟委員報告,其實委員剛有提到,這個議題在行政院的層級裡面也討論了3年。那所以其實跟著現在科技的進步,其實包含美國,包含歐盟,他們已經不是只有討論媒體溢價這個部分。現在最重要的概念是AI的資料探勘有沒有使用到媒體資料庫。那上個禮拜, |
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英國的金融時報剛剛跟OpenAI簽署了資料庫的授權也就是說當AI在進行語言學習使用新聞出版內容的時候它是怎麼有價的那去年底的時候紐約時報對不起美聯社也同樣簽署了一年一千萬美金的授權給OpenAI所以現在西方各國其實注目的是新聞內容怎麼樣保護起來不被所謂的AI大型平台 |
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因為如果按照委員剛剛提示的澳洲模式的話不管是澳洲或者是紐西蘭或者是加拿大很清楚的看到目前他們所有的立法只有抓到Google一家所以所謂的強制一家法很可能也只會抓到Google一家但是現在有太多的AI平台在使用語言學習的時候很有機會讓我們的新聞出版因為新聞出版反映了各個時代的精確語言內容 |
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那好,你剛剛提到Google,Google 3年3億數位共融基金到底能不能當作是所謂媒體溢價法的替代方案喔?那臺大的那個新聞所的教授林肇政有指出,他說Google的數位共融基金喔,他第一年有獲得補助的23個提案申請當中,雖然有17家新聞媒體跟民間的媒體,網路媒體,還有另外5家的科技公司跟一個大學系所,換句話說, |
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Google的這個數位共榮基金實際上它是補償新聞著作權和補償新聞著作權的損失無關。就是說長期使用新聞媒體的內容卻為付費的這個問題仍舊存在,沒有獲得解決。所以次長你如果說,照您剛剛說的,那你如何評價Google的數位共榮基金? |
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教育部的立場我們從來不認為3億的共榮基金會跟媒體溢價法有關係,那是Google針對所謂的新聞產業進行所謂的新創或使用科技的一筆基金,那個跟媒體溢價沒有關聯。是,所以你也認為媒體有價,可是媒體有價未必要用媒體溢價法來處理。當然。 |
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那你有想到更好的方式嗎? |
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主席、各位委員、各位官員。我相信主計部還有主計長跟衛福部的次長。主計部副主計長、社福部的理事。請相關人員讓位一下好不好。 |
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委員好你好這次我們前瞻計畫已經執行到第4期了所以剩下的不到800億元我想請教主席長還有次長我們這個前瞻計畫的重點很多都放在綠能、軌道、數位、城鄉等等的 |
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好,我們來統計一下,自從2017年前瞻預算開辦至今,我想請問,最近呢,我們衛福部非常關心的就是食安的議題,食品安全網。所以我們對於這個上面的食安建設的投資,到底佔上限8400億元的百分之多少? |
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跟委員報告就是說我們這個前瞻的計畫當然是先有計畫再有預算所以計畫就是說因為透過我們有一個審查的機制然後所以我們並不會先預設說它要佔多少比例那它是有點是競爭型的概念所以你覺得你可能會花多少錢嗎 |
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關於食安建設的投資算了一算居然僅佔上限的0.47%所以為什麼本席會關注這個議題因為大家也知道從去年的新聞至今不管是瘦肉精或是邊境查不完的這個外國進口的草莓、水果 |
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還有最近這個禮拜保齡茶室的風暴才有第4個非常無辜的受害者身亡還有衛福部之前承諾兩三個月要把所有下游的蘇丹紅全部查完就是因為我們每次質詢你都告訴我們說量能不足、人力不足、抽檢不足所以我們沒有把事情做好因此也想要在這邊幫次長 |
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第5次聯席會議 |
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花在蓋房子是昆陽大樓基礎建設的整建更新。我也想請問主計長,如果說衛福部要做一些翻修、蓋實驗室、更新設備、器材等等,為什麼要用特別預算來做?公務預算你提出申請不是天經地義的事情嗎? |
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跟委員報告就是說這個透過特別預算當然就是同樣的事情但是我們認為它在急迫性上蠻重要所以針對這個部分所以就到特別預算來但是委員所關心的實在問題的確是我們要重視所以我想不管是未來是在特別預算或者是我們年度的預算只要衛福部有提出相關的計畫我想所以是說衛福部的這個大樓是很突然的需要整建 |
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所以我們才撥特別預算給他不是他很突然而是說他有這個急迫性那因為我們可能在特別預算的時候有這個空間所以我們就讓他納便到特別預算那很明顯嘛所以難怪做得不夠好我們來看 |
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你幫自己設定的KPI,衛福部透過聯合分工檢驗體系實品檢驗件數,你從110年開始看,每年都有8700件,等於每個月至少725。現在前瞻5期會到明年的8月結束,至少8個月也要有超過5800件的KPI,為什麼你幫自己編的是4200件? |
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那另外一個指標一般例行性食品檢驗件數每個月至少應該要5、6、6、6件啊可是你至少8個月也應該超過4萬5你也只給自己編了3萬件你不是已經覺得自己量能不足了嗎 |
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委員好,那這個部份我是不是可以請我們食藥署的同仁來回答,可以比較知道說這個部份的執行概況。跟先生委員報告,事實上我們中央地方在執行這個食品檢驗的部份,每一年平均都會超過10萬件以上。所以這個是追加的?是。所以你追加為什麼你會覺得110年到現在你可以減少?因為我們最近反而食安是越來越嚴重。 |
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報告委員,事實上不是只有前瞻基礎建設計畫的經費有支應在我們的食安檢驗上面。事實上我們每年的公務預算以及我們其他的科技預算還有社發經費,我們都有相當的經費在撥用在這個相關中央跟地方的檢驗上。好,所以我們幫次長一起爭取,在第5期的時候可不可以再多放一些心力在我們的食安。好,謝謝。時間到了。好,謝謝大家。 |
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最後我也想跟次長一起跟我們主計長爭取這個癌症新藥基金是我們賴準總統很重要的一個政見因為現在癌症新藥納入健保起碼要兩年 |
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跟日本韓國比起來是天差地遠他們幾十天啊所以現在我們的癌症死亡率五年存活率是嚴重落後先進國家包括我們所有的鄰近國家因此我們希望可以編列一個癌症新藥基金也有朝野立委十幾位都已經提出了要來修正癌症防治法的第16條我也想在這邊問一下 |
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次長,是不是跟主計處會做一個可行性的評估報告? |
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這個部分我們朝向要設一個新藥基金可是要不要修法等等那個部分我們再來做一些研議那我們已經很努力的在爭取相關的預算有,你們現在用臨時撥補的方式可是癌友告訴我說他也許第一年可以獲得治療那第二年第三年呢因為剛剛衛福部部長也說每年的財源是非常不穩定的你也知道嘛對 |
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有請教育部劉次長 |
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委員長好 次長長我們同意片還沒有出來可以時間暫停一下嗎不好意思謝謝時間請暫停好 |
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請各級機關應斟酌國家語言整體發展方案的書面用語規範,優先使用臺灣原住民語、臺灣客語、臺灣台語、麻族語及臺灣手語, |
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可是呢,我們來往下看發生了什麼事情。在最近,師大台灣系的多位教授聯名向行政院提出陳情,就是關於教育部拒絕把相關國家語言發展業務的名稱從閩南語改成台灣台語。那行政院就把這個文呢,發到這個國家語言發展法主管機關文化部,文化部再移文到教育部,結果教育部你們的回應是, |
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啟動課綱研修程序,找了地方政府課綱修訂小組諮詢會議的意見,無法取得共識,所以沒有辦法改。但是次長就您所知道,其實國家語言發展方案當中,難道教育部主管的業務只有跟課綱有關嗎? |
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跟委員報告,當然我們還包含國家語言整體發展方案裡面的方案,我們也有執行,是。好,那我們來看一個下一頁,來。那事實上我們看到這個除了台式大教授陳晴之外呢,我們來往下看喔。在國外有多個例子,有很多台灣的學者在海外教學的時候,他們在教台語文課程。 |
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那可是我們卻被中國的學者或是中國的學生質疑說你們的教育部自己都在課綱跟相關的公文裡面說叫做閩南語你們憑什麼把你們在海外教這個台語叫做台語次長您覺得我們的學者或是我們在海外教台灣這些老師教授們他們心裡面作何感想委員報告這個議題的確我們現在已經進我們的課綱研修小組在討論但是如同次長您剛剛說的他不會只有跟課綱有關對不對 |
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是,它另外還有是跟國家語言整理發展方案。是,那針對海外這個部分還有後續我要跟您討論的來下一頁。其實目前我們盤點整理有語文競賽的部分、語言檢定的部分、文學獎的部分、詞典名稱的部分,其實它都可以跟您剛剛說的課綱如果都還需要討論,但是光是在這些本土語言的業務上就有很多事情可以先行調整,但是教育部為什麼遲遲沒有動作? |
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公文報告,這個我們再檢討一下,但是如果是跟課綱有關的,的確目前還是遵循課綱。好,那我們尊重課綱啟動研修的相關討論專業會議,可是明明有很多線型可以更正的地方,但是教育部卻不更正,那因為時間有限了,我想要積極拜託教育部,全面盤點跟課綱沒有關的業務,例如說我剛剛說的語言檢定、語文競賽、文學獎、死點名稱,把閩南語改成台灣台語這件事情,這邊可以積極進行相關報告研究嗎? |
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是不是我們把一個月內把這個相關的報告就給委員?好,那我希望這個報告裡面呈現的不要再只是做相關研究的啟動,因為它確實可以做積極的調整。再來,如同您剛剛說的,有很多必須要拉到課綱討論會議的時候,請把這個概念再度嚴正地強調放入相關的討論當中。 |
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我們就針對委員的兩個建議來提供報告。好,尤其是台語的主體性的部分。好,那這個部分先謝謝次長。那接下來要拜託那個體育署副署長,謝謝。 |
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關於前瞻基礎建設的部分,在我的畫面左邊這個是之前體育署林德福署長,他當時前瞻計畫說要蓋6個球場作為發展台灣足球基地,我想你應該都有印象,可是回頭看目前真的蓋起來而且運作當中的只有一座男子足球場,而且這還是高雄的劉士芳委員積極認真爭取出來的結果, |
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回過頭來看其他經費到現在都變成田徑場的整修還有學校足球場的費用所以一旦台灣民間足球界談到前瞻談到六年足球計畫大家都非常非常的失望那今天在質詢的時間我要再次提醒副署長因為接下來我們還有優化全民運動與賽會環境計畫經費我們來看一下目前你們發出去的經費呢都落在哪裡全部都放在學校的整修或者是相關的興建可是明明大家 |
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之前跟大家討論過的都會型小型共用足球場目前完全沒有看到相關的計畫那體育署現在還開放各縣市申請這些都是郊區跟設施的整建大家都在看體育署到底相關的態度是什麼 |
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報告員,因為目前也有請各個縣市政府在盤點適當的區域。就是你們盤點,可是你們沒有更積極的說法,甚至你們沒有相關的要案,告訴縣市政府,不是把相關組場修好,有非常多非常多的社區俱樂部正在,他們都在找場地,他們都在找不到場地,但是你們明明在進行相關案件說明的時候,可以更積極的開放這個態度,那麻煩你們積極的調整。這部分目前18個案子,我們原則上都會給予責任。 |
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這些案子我沒有問題我沒有要去擋他們的預算我說的是其他社區俱樂部他們的需求你們明明都知道我們再來邀好我們再來邀好那這個部分我們辦公室也會持續追蹤最後一分鐘我想要跟副署長討論一下上個月體育署辦的中學足球聯賽發生爭議我想你都知道美倫國中跟右昌國中那我不是專業裁判我不就上現場有沒有誤判做出決議可是我看了相關的影片我發現最後幾波的衝突不要說裁判跟球員現場其實沒有贏家怎麼說我們來往下看 |
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在這個判決當中,居然有人在現場對裁判下指導棋,把原來的黃牌變成了紅牌。紅色衣服這個人,他是中學聯賽的裁判長。副署長請問你在足球比賽中,有任何人可以對現場的指揮裁判判法嗎? |
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跟委員報告,這個部分目前看起來應該是裁判長為了要阻止兩邊的選手進去有當下的衝突,所以他進場主要是把兩邊的選手這邊有隔開,不要讓他們進一步的衝突,然後在這個當下的話, |
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一切都是以那個裁判這邊的一個判決為最終的一個判決。那我們要說,事實上為什麼大家會對體育署之間,或是對這個事情有相關的討論,我想要先跟副署長分享。在比賽後這個孩子,他當場就告訴他爸媽他要把他的球鞋上網賣掉了。一雙五六千塊的球鞋他就不要了。 |
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1、2千塊就要賣掉為什麼?孩子覺得這個大人的不公為什麼要他們來承擔?所以我這邊時間有限我想要快速拜託體育署體育署主辦中學足球聯賽裁判長這一次介入賽事爭議但真的不是第一次過往有非常多的案例請在兩週內提出完整報告不要再放任中學體總繼續讀後特定人事這件事情再來裁判養成不義相關的派令其實我覺得利益迴避你們都非常清楚也請你們積極的承擔相關你們必須要負的責任再來 |
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體育每次現場大人的錯誤卻要小孩承擔體育署其實都知道我們辦公室非常非常多陳情都一直在告訴你們這一次事件我覺得相關調查報告後如果真的有疏失真的必須要向孩子道歉不要再讓他們承受相關我們大人所犯的錯誤目前有請高中體育總這邊提出完整的報告我們這邊也會再加以檢視阿針對這個個別的選手是不是容我們這邊也也請我們同仁這邊去先關心一下體育署之後補充說明好謝謝謝謝陳培委員的諮詢請接著請陳昭之委諮詢 |
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有請李次 |
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委員好,市長好。市長在凱開事件之後,衛福部有做了一些檢討,就是有關原來出養的評估是交給民間的社福團體來做,那也因為這個機構它從出養到安置,它是沒有它的財源的,所以只能從收養端的費用來支付。 |
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但是這個情況之下機構可能會去找所謂的比較便宜的保姆甚至他就是目標就是達到出養那我覺得這個是有道德風險跟利益衝突的所以現在你們把出養評估又交回了給這個地方政府 |
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那我這個非常認同,不過地方政府的人力的部分也希望中央要能夠去協助,不然因為人力的問題又卡住了。但是我要談的是說,現在只對出養的部分的評估交給回到政府來做,那收養評估呢?是不是還是由民間來做嗎?因為次長主要就是說凱凱這個事件,本來有個疼愛她的保姆,相處也很好。 |
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他想要表達收養這個孩子他的保姆但是他被兒扶拒絕了那這個原因我不理解但是後來就悲劇了所以我是想了解說有關這個收養部分要怎麼做次長我自己都收養小孩的我要告訴你收養的問題其實沒有局外人想像的那麼簡單 |
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修養人必須在不同媒合機構接受相關課程評估 |
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政府的資料來看,終止收養的比率竟然高達五成。 |
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也就是說收養通常它最後面的結果它不是個happy ending不是收養就是一個快樂的結局這個很多人反對代孕要求我們去收養我其實最接近才看到這個數字你看有一半是終止收養關係那終止收養會經過有三個方法一個雙方合議另外一個就是說法院判決那通常都是虐待等等那第三個是養父母死亡那我要談的是說 |
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中止都是負面的嗎?即便養父母的時候你未必要去做這個中止關係,但是可見可能相處是負面的。市長你有掌握這個訊息嗎?有。一半以上都中止關係。對,它整個是包括所有的收養,不一定是每一個。成年、未成年都在裡面。 |
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但是為什麼社會都在呼籲大家去收養叫不孕婦去收養為什麼你們都不出生收養其實是有很大的問題請次長再看我下面這一張其中屬於這個親屬關於收養前的評估現在兒少是有兩套標準 |
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就是有親屬關係的他只要是這個收養人去法院申請就可以了但是另外就是像我一樣沒有血緣關係的反而要經過媒合機構、上課、面談、訪視當時我那個年代我要到法官那邊去了兩次我們四個人還有我交了一堆證件健康檢查證明、財產證明、收入證明、還良民證就是兩套標準在評估次長您覺得有血緣關係的收養就不用經過這些評估嗎? |
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基本上因為我們是在民法本來就有一些相關收養的一個機制在所以我們對於在五等親內的收養我們還是覺得是不用經過媒合機構可是還是要經過法院你這個法就是太落後了我們看右邊這個表是 |
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有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
11430.839 |
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法規跟不上,應該是說因為有血緣關係,如果還要再去透過媒合製作,但是我現在用結果跟你討論,事實上就是八分之八十是有親屬關係終止收養,你要從這個結果去看去檢討,那再來這個是一國兩制,另外還不只一國兩制,還有一國八制的,就剛才提到收養是一國兩制, |
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收費是一國八制,請市長看一下這個,不同的兒扶機構,收費從7萬到12萬,送到國外的要1萬美金。其實我認為這個成本,剛剛我提到會有一些顧慮,如果有兒扶的這個機構來處理,那我覺得成本應該由政府來負擔。 |
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我是認為出養這件事不應該這個媒合應該由政府來做而不是在民間的團體來做那收費的問題會衍生這個因為收費問題就衍生剛剛我提到的會用比較便宜的保姆然後他可能會就是我的目標就是出養其實出養不是最好的結果 |
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11491.124 |
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有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
11510.121 |
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還是繼續委託給民間嗎? |
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這是因為又會看那個縣市政府的一個量能的問題那我要跟委員特別報告就是說我們也注意到說收養後對於這些收養家庭的服務其實是沒有提供的我們這次在修法裡面也認為說收養之後的家庭我們應該要給相關的支持服務謝謝市長 謝謝主席好 謝謝謝謝陳執照委員的諮詢請接著我們請陳玉珍委員諮詢 |
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教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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11597.372 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案 |
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11637.492 |
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加速擴大吸引國際觀光客的預算凍結三百萬書面報告有提到團客部分會提供五千到五萬元的獎助金如果長時間的加倍一萬到五萬元自由行旅客的部分是提供五千元的抽獎機會一共五十萬份、一百一十連二十萬份、一百一十三連十五萬份、一百一十連十萬份賴準總統最近也有提到前一陣子 |
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12月去年底選舉也有提到鼓勵我們金門要吸引國際觀光客這個你們知道嗎?這個賴準總統的這個政見你們知道嗎?瞭解瞭解齁好那你們知道現在因為兩岸關係這個台客沒有到金門嘛那入客最近也還沒有開放到金門現在都還沒有開放所以金門的現在觀光產業比這個疫情期間還要慘這個是店家說的也的確是這樣子 |
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請問你們在推動這個以前你們在推動這個國旅嘛觀光署也知道這個國旅的安心旅遊方案啊都會考慮到我們離島的旅遊加碼那請問這次的吸引國際觀客有沒有比照我們金門金門有沒有比照當初推動這個國旅啊我們離島要加碼不然那個國際觀客怎麼會到金門來他到台灣來還要再做分析過去就不願意啦這個這個怎麼辦咧你們的計畫在哪裡 |
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我想委員這部分因為整個前瞻的預算裡頭有關吸引國際觀光客是它是整體的所以是整體的嘛整體就是包括颱風金嘛那如果金門必須沒有用委員稍微說明一下所以不管是自由行或者是團客的部分我們可以針對這樣的一個特殊訊或離島或是是因為如果金門沒有誘因 |
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11718.43 |
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11719.751 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
委員會後提供的相關加碼辦法計畫提供給本席 |
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11733.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
11733.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
委員會主席 |
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11764.742 |
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國際旅客才願意到金門去,謝謝交通部,謝謝。接著我們請經濟部,我看到你們的計畫裡頭,你們書面報告裡頭有關於推動傳統市級攤鋪升級的轉型計畫裡頭,有被凍結3000萬,那你們的報告裡頭,經濟部有提出來,你們要輔導100處的傳統市級攤鋪,位於北、中、南、東,這個4個地方,對不對?沒錯吧?我們金門在哪裡? |
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11787.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
11787.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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11810.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
11827.657 |
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你這個北中南東我們到底算哪裡?這個中央政府對金門永遠是有的地方算北區什麼經濟部啊,有的算南區,中華電信啊,有的算什麼?不知道,反正東西南北都有,中區,水利署是中區,中華電信是南區,這個什麼東西是北區的,國稅局是北區? |
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我跟委員報告事實上我們是每一年只有3年的執行計畫嘛對每一年我們對你這個100歲有沒有我們金門離島有沒有你告訴我就好了有齁對有多少勒有包含有包含有在哪裡要去哪裡參加北東南東還要不要金門辦要去哪裡參加你告訴我如果金門有人要參加要去哪裡參加我們可以事實上我們也可以規劃到離島來做說明好那就幫我們辦一個然後幫我們金門辦一區好沒有問題沒有問題好謝謝那名額有吧是 |
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有齁?有齁?好,謝謝。這個,今天那個第4次首長會議,水利署啦,這個我們已經上次也提過齁,我們自來水廠欠財政部齁,上次問過財政部,我們欠他地方建設基金2.4億,我們會欠他是因為我們把中央應該負擔的水的這個預算,我們自己來負擔,然後財政部要我們先借錢給中央,先墊付,以後他會還我們,水利署知道這件事情吧? |
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知道這件事情嗎?這個13.55億是金門縣電當行政院電的,對吧?這個中央有核定說我們先電,電了後叫說你們要還我們,那現在財政部那個基金要收起來了,你們又沒有要把錢給我們,要我們要去哪裡拿勒? |
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不是,當時的這個計畫依照行政院核定,主席總書室要求說建設的部分要經門縣政府來製作,營運的部分的利息負擔當然...你們要來,我們推選的部分你們要分年補貼給我們對不對?你們不但補貼不夠,而且還遲延撥款,我們今年拿到是前年我們幫你們中央政府墊的,對不對? |
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我們這個每年我們都有爭取大院來支持這個預算我們金門立法院會支持你不用擔心你們經濟部怎麼可以慈嚴付款給我們呢我們每兩年的利息要找誰算財政部要跟我們收利息你們我們要找誰收包括委員因為還有包括澎湖還有連江對啦他們會爭取我爭取金門你告訴我金門你要怎麼處理自來水本來就不是地方政府的事情在寄有的這個預算裡面盡量來撥那你這個錢我們的利息要不要還我們這麼多年每一年都慈嚴付款 |
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按照法定利率就可以啊?我們依照立法院審定的這個預算：所以你們應該憑預算還我們利息啊?我們要還財政部,你們要還我們啊?你們都不還我們,現在財政部在跟我們比啊?每年都有還,每年都有還每年都遲延復還,是不是事實?不是,每年都要累計前一年的平均的這個水債的部分對啦,你們是不是都晚付嘛?我們先墊,你們是不是都晚付兩年?因為他有分20到40年的這個成本來﹖是不是晚付? |
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謝謝陳議員的質詢今天上午的質詢到12點半那中午休息一個小時下午1點半開始休息時間呢官員如果要休息或吃飯 |
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我們樓下802會議室已經借託。好,緊接著我們請張宏祿委員質詢。不好意思,我請交通部。我請交通部陳次。陳委員。不好意思。 |
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市長,我們那時候前瞻預算,其實有很多很多地方需要停車場的部分,都是前瞻預算去處理。也很感謝中央的支持,在我們板橋總共有7座停車場, |
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但我要在這邊也是要說就是像我們板橋是一個非常非常需要停車場的地方我們整個新北市的統計我們現在板橋有4萬多個汽機車的停車位但 |
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以整個新北市來看,我們有百萬輛的汽車,超過兩百萬輛的機車,那很多人都會去板橋,因為恰公也好,搭捷運運,搭火車,搭高鐵,所以我們板橋就是真的是非常需要停車的區位,那我想請教一下, |
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那前瞻結束之後啊,那我們如果還要繼續希望有這個停車場可以蓋,是不是只能剩這個公務預算補助? |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
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12107.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
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12144.028 |
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抱歉至於耳後前瞻的預算結束之後耳後相關是不是還有停車場的預算可來供大家來各地方政府來提出申請這部分呢我想我們交通部會去積極的來原議 |
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除了公務預算之外,我們能不能提出一些誘因或鼓勵地方政府新建停車場,或是可以採取考慮BOT的方式? |
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經濟部林市長 |
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委員好,次長你好。我先請教一下,其實我們自來水管老舊,其實常常都會有爆管或什麼的。我也知道這幾年其實我們花了很多很多的錢在做這件事。不過這個新聞大家都有看到,我們板橋可能是比較老的城市,常常爆管。 |
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那我的意思就是說,其實我們這幾年做那麼多,我們都有看到了。但像我們板橋這種特別比較老的城市,然後人口又多,那它可能的水壓什麼的這些可能會比較沒有辦法負擔。能不能說啊,這個考量一下,可以優先把板橋真的很老的水管可以先來處理。 |
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謝謝委員的支持,我想我們自來水的老舊水管的太舊換新是一個很重要的工作,那您剛剛提到板橋地區,我請我們自來水公司來做更進一步的評估,那把比較老舊的部分看看能不能有機會提早來進行相關的一個太舊換新的工作。 |
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除了這個之外,其實我覺得台灣也有很多啦。但我知道我們這幾年啊,花的錢已經非常非常的多了啦。不過如果跟日本,我們以東京來講啊,其實啊,我們花的錢啊,真的跟東京都來比起來,我們還是很少啦。那當然我也知道,這個財政規模不一樣。財政規模是不一樣的,我們也不能要求你們要比照東京都的水準。 |
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不過這個真的是如果你報一次管報一次管你這個後續的這個成本反而增加很多這點我們應該可以考量所以我才會說像這種特別老舊的城市有特別老舊的管是不是可以幫個忙 |
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是,我想我們積極地在爭取,現在也提報第2期的那個自來水的那個這個降落的改善計畫到行政,我們會積極來爭取更適當的機會來做後續的處理這樣子。好,好,那謝謝喔,謝謝,謝謝。謝謝張宏樂委員的質詢,緊接著請游浩委員質詢。 |
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有請交通部次長 |
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委員好市長好是那在今天的話雖然是相關預算的審查那解凍那我想說藉由這個機會那今天我也跟您要特別提一個今天我稍早的時候王宏威委員王維立委他也跟我一起有開一個記者會也是有關於重大的交通的公安議題 |
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12397.848 |
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12411.501 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
公安危機,之前高鐵有發生差點有6個人在裡面3次可能會受到電擊或成為烤肉串的事件嗎? |
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12441.582 |
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委員不好意思我也是今天早上才看到這一則新聞的事那對於這個高鐵公安事件他害人真相因為那一天的話是上午那其實他那時候停駛了5分鐘那高鐵表示是因為電力異常暫時停車那事實上他在高鐵的烏日基地他那時候在進行這開關的89FC41的規定作業在進行這個維護維修那裡面有6位 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
12442.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
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有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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那想就教一下次長,針對像現在高鐵他現在是不受立院來監督,但是交通部對於這起事件要持什麼樣的態度跟來去怎麼樣的作為來去改善這個事件? |
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我想跟委員做一個報告,就是有關這個事件的一個發生,其實是臺高公司大概在4月19號也接收到相關的,這事件是在4月9號發生的。但是在4月19號有相關的檢舉案,所以臺高公司就進行了相關的徹查。那徹查之後呢,對於相關的人員是予延處,而且重申不得再犯。這是公司本身就公司治理安全上它所做的一個處理。 |
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站在交通部鐵道局有關鐵道監理的立場,我們今天,其實不是在今天,其實在4月26號就已經發函請台高公司就這個事件說明。那我的了解,我們最近大概今天也會責令我們的鐵道局就這個來啟動相關的一個公安的檢查。 |
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然後檢查完以後來依照檢查的結果來做相關的一個處理,謝謝。那我跟市長補充說明,那在4月9號那一天之後,其實高鐵公司他們在內部來講,他們是採取息事寧人的態度,所以說導致那個六位的人員,包括內部的一個檢舉人, |
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他們變成糾結在到底是要持續做這份工作嗎?還是因為那時候高鐵是叫他們說都對外不要再提這件事情。那他們是在生命權跟他們的一個工作權中他們要做選擇。如果說今天來講高鐵它本身它是螺絲鬆動嗎?那以及說在這樣子那麼重大的一個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
主席 |
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有跟委員報告這相關的事情發生之後我們鐵道局當然也就剛才特別提到的在4月16號請臺高公司來做進一步的說明那說明之後他們會去做相關的一個實地的一個檢查或是書面的調查 |
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市長,我跟你講,不只這一件,包括在酒測的部分,高鐵的列車長在26號的時候有一個報導,他是規避酒測,那到時候高鐵的講法是,他有請負責監督的調派員,還來去給他實習酒測來去了解,但是事實上,這個部分也是採取歧視寧人的態度,因為到最後, |
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內部的員工也再次的跟網紅委員辦公室這邊我們今天開記者會也爆料因為到最後是這個監測員去幫這個那個列車長去進行酒測那所以說這等於就像是警察他在執勤的時候民眾喝酒了他就警察在幫他酒測一樣這個等於是這樣子的一個狀況那我想就教一下次長 |
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高鐵它第一線其實在我們許多的服務商們看起來都做得很好可是在內部來講這樣的一個重大的公安危機是存在那麼高的風險甚至連列車長他如果是酒駕現在酒駕是零容忍的一個情況之下那就連去幫他調查幫他測的人他自己還可以幫他代為酒測那像這樣子的問題交通部都無法可管嗎? |
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我想這樣的一個事件來講是一個很嚴重的事件而且對於公安對行車安全來講影響甚巨所以說這部分剛才我也說明過了台高公司大概也做了一些懲處而且重申是不得再犯當然他也對於他相關的這個檢查的SOP也做進一步的一個檢討 |
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那在這樣的一個情況下我們的鐵道局呢也會去就他的公司裡頭有關行車安全的這一事情來做全面的一個檢查來檢視他的相關的SOP是不是有符合規定如果有相關不足的地方會要求改善 |
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好那本席還是要表示今天來講高鐵的螺絲鬆動某個程度交通部要嘛積極介入不然也代表了交通部也會有責任那這樣子的一個國內大家習慣的高鐵的運輸這是非常重要的一個交通安全所以請部長、次長這邊務必一定要針對振興做個徹查跟社會大眾回應謝謝是是我們會嚴正處理謝謝優化委員的質詢請接著我們請陳秀寶委員質詢 |
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12776.572 |
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請陳副主計長、衛福部理事長、環境部省次長來,請陳副理事、環境部 |
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12809.304 |
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國務委員好 早安 首先請教我們陳副主席長我們中央政府的前瞻基礎建設預算第4期特別的預算案總共是2098.3億元那從112年12月30日三讀到現在已經一年四個月請問現在已經執行多少金額 我們執行率如何我們的執行率是 |
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目前第4期執行率按照國發會管考的資料是95.5%那這邊再請教我們陳副主席長,課委會在113年應該有分配到的金額是2.93億元,但是到3月底都沒有分配到這個金費,請問是什麼原因? |
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分配預算應該是各部會依據他的這個進度去進行分配就是說他因為我們的特別預算是他就這個計畫在這一期拿到一個總額然後這個各部會在按照他的執行進度去分配所以這個部分呢我們分配給他的是額度是在的但是是因為課額會本身按照進度是他們的他們是他們自己執行的問題喔 |
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依據工程會112年底公共建設計畫預算的執行統計,列管整體經費812億元,執行經費782億元,執行率高達96.32%,成效很好的。但是要請教衛福部,4項計畫經費17億元,其中只執行10億元,執行率只有60.72%,請問是什麼原因? |
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我們在前瞻這邊大概執行率需要在努力的地方是有衛福據點還有地方創生這兩個案子那因為這兩個案子其實我們的合佩率都合佩大概有超過7成5以上可是都在地方在執行當中 |
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我們為了要督促地方也能夠盡快來進行相關的一個工程所以我們都有聯繫會議還有輔導團下去就是希望能夠協助地方特別是在鄉鎮在執行這個部分能夠給予更多的一個協助所以在他地方的執行的部分你們也是有盡力的在協助提供他們就是盡快的把這個進度可以趕上來所以有在做這個部分好謝謝 |
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但是這邊還是要請教一下113年度其實除了我們衛福之外環境部這邊的執行預算執行率只有24.83%是什麼原因? |
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跟委員報告 |
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有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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有請杜次 |
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市長請教根據工程會第113年第一季的公共建設計畫執行的統計農業部這邊預算執行率只有6.85%是淨培莫挫請問市長是什麼原因 |
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這個部分有些是因為工程發包上面有一些延後那這個部分我們跟不管是我們自己或是跟各個地方政府其實都有在追進度其中還有總苗高科技核心基地的這個創產計畫在113年度的經費應該是3.63億元第1屆執行目標應該要有18%但是執行率是0 |
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中央政府預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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委員會主席 |
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經濟部林次長 |
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請教您關於攸關民生的議題立法院在前天以59比50通過了國民黨團的凍漲電價案那對此呢經濟部你們是表示尊重國會但是無論經濟部或是台電都需要依法守法就是依照電業法遵守這個電價審議機制的結果那麼這邊要請教喔4月份的電價是不是照常會調漲 |
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是,我們其實4月份的一個這個電價審議目前已經開始在執行這個調漲的工作。那未來如果說再有國際原料再有成本這個上漲的問題,台電這邊會先優先考慮動漲還是還是一樣依照這個電業法? |
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主席請再給我半分鐘我盡快的把這個議題講完 |
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在同一天還有另外一個表決案,就是我們章濱工業區的這個金鼎焚化爐這個BOT案。那當時也是以58比48通過了民眾黨團的這個例子停止在章濱工業區興建金鼎焚化爐這個案子。那在這個決議之後呢,金鼎案後續會如何處理?經濟部這邊你們有什麼規劃? |
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我們的這個處理一定是依照這個契約的規範來進行。契約的規範裡面如果有違反這個契約規範,我們就按照相關的規定來處理這些事情。那是不是把你們之後會如何處理的這個你們所研議的結果一份報告給我辦公室可以嗎?可以。 |
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主席好我想先請一下主席總處陳副主席長請 |
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副局長因為今天在處理我們中央政府前瞻基礎建設第4期特別預算還有那個中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算那我在想說 |
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因為今天要處理特別預算的時候我就先稍微整理了一下就是我們看到112年度我們要辦理政府辦理特別預算總共大概有五項包括中央政府新式戰機採購特別預算然後包括了那個特殊傳染性疾病就是我們COVID-19相關的第一次到第三次的預算還有原本特別預算 |
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還有那個幼少年COVID-19之後的特別預算第4次的追加預算這大概都是之前的那還有一個海空戰力特別提升計畫的抬高特別預算那這都是我們中央政府在做的112年度涉及的5項預算之的其中3項那我要特別講的狀態就是說因為整個蔡政府這幾年下來的時候她處理的特別預算非常非常的多 |
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我們認為對於整個財政機率已經有受到一些影響那對於這幾年來我們的整個舉債的金額大概已經要到我們以2022年整個全國GDP總額22.67兆幾乎佔了一成因為我們看到整個舉債數當中的時候是在2兆2586億 |
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對於這樣的一個特別預算的運用,請問一下副主席長這邊有沒有什麼樣子的看法?我們要怎麼樣來調整會比較妥適?根據委員報告,就是說基本上我們特別預算一定是最近所提出來都是先有一個條例,那接著我們再來編列預算,所以基本上在這個條例的審查過程已經確定了有這個需求,所以我們來提列這個特別預算。那至於這個有關債務的部分,實際上 |
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| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
主席 |
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| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
陳志全議員 |
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市長好,因為前瞻計畫第1期跟第2期特別預算已經分別超過預算執行期限4年到2年,那很多計畫也都還沒有執行完均。那第3期特別預算辦理的分支計畫當中,超過6成沒有在特別預算執行期限完成,其中包括我們新竹市的大車站計畫, |
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在第二期第三期都有特別預算編列計畫經費結果執行都是零那這邊的時候我們把整個前瞻計畫這邊的第一期第二期第三期當中的時候未完成的數量它持續的增加持續的增加那持續增加的原因的時候我覺得有一個很大的因素是在於地方政府也籌不出那麼多的錢我們看到去年七月中的 |
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統計數字看到整個前瞻計畫的餅很大一旦看起來很充足可是暗藏了很多的問題按照前瞻計畫8000多億有七成都是軌道建設合併經費5486億元中央政府補助2203億元其他地方自籌款要高達3283億元 |
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這麼多的一個部分地方自籌費用其實是沒有辦法去因應的所以我剛剛除了指出了新竹大車站計畫它的質詢率是零之外的時候還包括了台中捷運綠線那麼大台中地區山海線還有台南鐵路立體化的部分恆春觀光鐵道計畫的部分質詢率也都是零那這樣的一個情況你覺得主要因素是什麼 |
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剛才委員特別提到的幾個計畫其實它目前都是在相關的一個要嘛是可行性的研究的階段它相關的議題還需要釐清所以讓它後續進行中規或者是建設的計畫的期程有所延誤那這些其實在這個前瞻裡頭也大概都是編列可行性的相關的經費那這一部分我們會盡量來協助地方政府 |
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13566 |
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提出可行的方案 |
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相關計畫非常龐大,然後地方政府負擔非常重。我稍微看了一下,在第1期到第3期的時候,地方政府自籌的經費大概已經編列出1514億,不過大概只佔到中央合定數的33%,大概三分之一左右,還不到。 |
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地方政府財政非常捉襟見軸,在前瞻第1期至第3期分支計畫都還沒有完整,比例越來越高。請教次長,我們這邊有沒有辦法提高中央各項經費的負擔比例,來減輕地方自籌的壓力? |
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跟委員報告這個地方在經濟上的一個負擔這個我們是有看到但是每一個建設計畫裡頭他其實要分兩塊來看一個是有關這個自償的部分所以要是能夠計畫的自償越高那當然 |
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相對大家在分擔的比例上就會那個減輕那另外一個其實各縣市政府他的這個也會依財力分級來做不同樣的一個負擔所以剛才委員講到三分之一是一個Normal平均值但是你可以看到到各縣市的計畫還是會依照他不同的財力有所處理市長因為主席站起來了我想針對新竹大車站計畫部分在跟本辦公室的時候做更詳細的一個說明是因為我們特別到目前為止他整個執行率全部都是零 |
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好,是是,這一部分我們來看怎麼樣來跟委員做說明,謝謝。好,謝謝鄭正賢委員的諮詢,緊接著我們請羅廷偉委員諮詢。好,謝謝主席。麻煩主席衛福部李立芬次長。衛福部李次。 |
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市長好我想台灣目前有幾個結構性的問題有迫切需要解決的一個必要當然其中一個最重要就是人口萎縮少子化以及台灣人越來越長壽但人口卻越來越減少導致現在人口正在結構正在快速的一個老化而人口萎縮所造成的效益這些相當明顯我們最近教育文化委員會在探討的許多學校 |
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遭不到學生退場而大學生現在也開始面臨學生註冊人數下滑更具威脅性的是臺灣的勞動力預計在2065年減一半有860萬只剩下這樣子的人口那連人口數的一半都不到這絕對會削弱臺灣的經濟成長以及再者人口高度的老化能負擔老年人的退休金相關的體制健保體系也都會隨著年輕人越來越少開始 |
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政府在前瞻怎麼去因應這個少子化?我們之前有看到這個所謂的育兒百寶箱,當然有被罵有去做改善,那我們當然是樂見。但是前瞻主要花了不少的經費在蓋這個硬體如公共托育的設施,目前這些公共托育設施完工幾處?幾處會完工? |
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| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
13777.668 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
法定人數不足 |
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| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
主席主席 |
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13816.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
2021年新生兒數153,800 |
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13860.405 |
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2022年新生數13.8萬2023年的新生額數是13.5萬次長在前瞻計畫下2024年你預估出生的新生額要多少?應該是逐漸往下啦看得出來這樣的趨勢啦但是我們要講的是新生額數的逐年下降代表的前瞻不一定有效果拼命增加疫情測試是不是能夠解決少子化的問題我們應該要反向的再來探討 |
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13885.541 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
雖然地方很猛的一直在爭取這些預算那我想每一個縣市首長都希望把它當成一個政績這也是一個趨勢我能夠理解但是作為我們主管機關也要因應未來我們不是只是說錢不夠再補錢我們繼續蓋我們是不是應該變相思考我們一直努力蓋但是還是一直往下是不是有問題所以我還是要講 |
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這些硬體設施真的能夠讓我們解這個藍莓之急嗎?如果我們蓋了這個東西兩三年後完工還是我們直接生一個孩子給一百萬這件事情有總統候選人也開出相關的政見過我們是不是應該去做一個探討? |
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13918.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
跟委員報告,其實我們看到其他國家的經驗,就是提供公共化的評價優質的這樣一個托育的服務確實是可以來提高。提高,但是目前看起來有限。我沒有說不對,但是我說是不是能夠兩者並軌進行,兩者一起探討。 |
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當然啦! |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
這個還是不夠啦,我們一直希望能夠再增加育兒津貼相關的一些補貼啦,這會後我再繼續跟你爭取喔。但第二個,我要跟你坦白講,我的家人有失智症的一個前夫妻喔,我們也正在追蹤當中,所以我們很關注這一類的議題。 |
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13982.484 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
而失智症帶來所有家庭的一些相關因子因素我們都不再說了影響有多深你自己也都很清楚但是我原本要請你談失智症照顧的一個願景但是現在時間也不夠但是我要講的是日本去年將失智症列為國家級的應對目標 |
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| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
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投資了將近200億日元,約14億台幣。當然我也要講,我們用在失智的預算編列2022年約50億左右。但是預算的配置狀況為何,前端的預防,以及花費的多少的比例, |
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13999.003 |
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還有後端的醫療照護花費的多少比例,這個其實我們還是希望能夠再去做相對應的一個檢討。失智症的輕中重度在分級管理衛福部的整合,我們覺得在這個部分還要再加強不同失智症的類型,我們該怎麼樣去照顧這個家庭的需求。 |
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各地施治政還有社會資源的差異性都不同衛福部有沒有針對這樣子部分去做通盤檢討去做相對應的一個困境做調查我覺得這個部分希望衛福部能夠加強啊2009年開始施治政已納入安寧療護的一個健保警部但是我還是要問現在我們納入以後我們目前國內負責照顧施治的人力是否足夠你覺得夠嗎 |
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我希望 |
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看到實際的具體的一個方向讓我知道啦以國外相比我們的專業人力失智照顧的比例喔我是覺得目前沒有看到具體的更好的一個方向啦我希望這個部分要加強謝謝 |
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謝謝主席。有請經濟部林次長。經濟部林次,請。委員好。次長,感謝我們行政院跟經濟部一直協助屏東縣政府在這個所謂的一個水資源的一個建設上面。我想屏東縣的水資源相當的豐沛。 |
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大潮州人工湖第一期計畫 |
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那所以在這兩年所謂發生這個全國大旱的時候其實也幫忙了我們南台灣做一個很好的一個調度那但是很遺憾目前我們提出的第二期的一個人工湖的計畫那預計每年可以預注1.5億噸的水來補充我們所謂的一個地下水層那我想這個 |
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委員會主席 |
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水資源作業基金審議會審查有條件通過那要請屏東縣政府做一些強化那之後我們會報行政院來做審議市長我想本席還是要再提醒因為這個案子已經拖了很久那當然這個不是純粹只是為了屏東縣的用水而是整個南台灣的一個水資源一個調度的計畫讓我們也期待經濟部甚至行政院趕快來核定 |
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那其實在這個大潮州人工五還沒有建立之前之前就有發生過所謂屏東跟高雄對於這個水資源的一個源頭的一個爭搶的一個問題那甚至因為這個供應到高雄端造成農民的這個深水井抽不到水那請教經濟部針對我們這個水資源的分配有沒有一個比較好的一個協調機制不要造成這個百姓的這個紛爭這個年年上演 |
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是。我想謝謝委員。我想這個部分我們經濟部水利署這邊也積極建立相關的一個這個溝通的一個還有這個協調的平台。那目前已經有明定這兩個這個我們縣市就這相關的一個這個水權的一個運用有一個建立一個明確的機制,會依這個機制來進行相關的一個應用。 |
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市長我想本席還是要再提醒因為這個屏東縣因為這個本身以往都是用使用地下水那但是因為地下水必須也要有一定的這個益處那所以高雄因為對於高雄市來講他們的本身的水源不夠 |
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所以屏東是一個很重要的一個供水的一個地區那這個供水的過程裡面包含現在我們在整幾個鄉鎮有挖了所謂的一個大管的一個供水的系統也造成一些交通的不便甚至影響造成百姓擔心這個以後後續水源的問題那這部分我想我們必須要跟自流水公司好好的討論一下怎麼樣來做一個水源的一個調度不要變成水到了高雄之後屏東沒有水可用 |
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這部分次長這邊能不能說明一下。好,我想委員剛剛提醒的部分我會請我們水利署以及自來水公司這邊依照委員剛剛所提醒的地方來做更適當的一個這個協調處理。 |
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另外最後一個問題我想還是要請教這個次長。我想這個自來水這個是我們這個現在目前國人都繼續需要的一個水源。那本席講一個很辛酸的一個問題。根據我們調閱的資料,其實我們現在幾乎每個縣市的普及率都已經到9成。那唯獨屏東到上個月才出破7成。 |
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那我想當然這個水利署也好或是自來水公司我們都一直要求要增加普及率但是因為我們的幅員遼闊那因為地形的關係也有很多的偏鄉那這部分水利署還有我們的經濟部怎麼樣來增強我們增加我們屏東的這個普及率的一個計畫 |
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謝謝委員。我想屏東自來水的普及,我們這幾年來加速的在執行。上個月我剛好也到屏東區跟我們屏東縣州縣長一起來啟動我們現在突破七成這樣的一個慶祝活動。 |
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現場也有提到相關希望我們能夠加速來提高屏東的自來水的一個補給率我已經請我們自來水公司李董事長好好地評估我們怎麼加速相關的工程的一個這個處理因為這個必須要有一個適當的工程能量能夠進來才能加速來進行 |
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另外就是我還是要提醒一下經濟部這邊除了這個自來水普及之外其實這個我們自來水公司這個水管老舊不洗老水的問題那加上我們的維修量能不足造成我們包含恆春地區一些偏遠地區老水老幾禮拜都沒人來修理這個問題我們都有反應過了是不是請水公司跟經濟部這邊也加強要求我們這個維護的一個品質防漏的問題好我們一定會加強要求謝謝 |
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好,謝謝徐務國委員的諮詢。請接著我們請黃秀芳委員諮詢。謝謝主席。我們先請經濟部次長。有請您次。 |
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委員好市長好市長我先就我們剛剛許委員所講的無自來水地區的這個部分因為每一年都所有無自來水地區的都要經過評比嘛那很多時候都是因為你們經費不足所以我是不是可以要求就是針對這些無自來水地區的這個他們只要有申請那 |
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主席主席 |
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好,謝謝,我想我們水利署也透過很多很多管道在爭取,我們會來把經費的那個爭取列為第一要務,讓這樣的工作能夠做更到位。是,就是無自來水,或者是這個接管率很低的地方,我覺得應該 |
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應該能夠讓所有的民眾我覺得這個是民生必須的這個是最基本的基礎建設所以我希望就是說未來經濟部這邊應該在預算上面應該要再多增加一點讓需要的人就申請不要說再經過評比我覺得經過評比這個一評比之後可能就是又被打回票有的一申請經過了四五年也都沒有通過我們來努力 |
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我們來努力。好,請回。接下來請交通部陳次長。 |
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市長好市長我在今年2月份的時候在這個總質詢的時候有詢問我們陳院長有關彰化的鐵路高架還有台中捷運綠線延伸到彰化那當時我有請這個院長還有我們的這個部長交通部長 |
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針對我們這兩件最重大的交通建設是不是可以在每三個月讓我們知道整個進度如何那這個彰化的鐵路高架到現在從開始計畫到現在現在目前是在進入綜合規劃那綜合規劃我看到這個一直停滯不前 |
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已經經過好幾年,從我當議員,然後當立委,立委已經第三屆了,那還是在這邊打轉。我是不是可以請教到底是什麼樣的原因,或者是未來我們交通部這邊要怎麼去協助地方政府來中央跟地方一起合作,趕快促成我們彰化鐵路高架。 |
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是,我想跟委員做一個說明,剛才委員有特別提到說每3個月給委員相關的進度這部分我想我們鐵道局可以來配合辦理,這不是問題。那另外特別提到這個有關造化式鐵路高架的這個問題,其實真正的問題還是機場的位置那個區位的問題要在哪裡,這一部分就基地的位置跟軌道數目前還沒有達成共識。 |
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那這一部分呢,我們鐵道局會在明天,會邀集相關單位,包含台鐵、彰化縣政府,大家共同來討論,希望盡快有一個結果,然後讓這個綜合規劃可以順利的往下走。好,當然就是說,地方會有地方的考量,地方政府會有一些考量,也許就是說,我們這個檢修廠的 |
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主席主席主席 |
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這部分確實有它一定的難度。 |
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我們交通部相關單位,包含台鐵公司,因為影響它以後的調度跟營運,它也提供了一些相關的看法。明天我特別提到說,鐵道局會邀請這些相關的單位,大家共同來討論,看是不是能夠如委員講的,是不是有一個方向,繼續往下走。 |
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台中捷運綠線延伸到彰化 |
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主席 |
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那也都一直都沒有什麼進展那我也在這邊也要求就是說交通部跟地方政府應該是要同心協力趕快將這個台中捷運綠線延伸到彰化當然這個不只延伸到彰化另外一段是延伸到台中的大坑所以我希望就是說交通部這邊應該是要跟地方政府充分的合作那地方的需求或者是需要排除的問題也希望交通部這邊來協助 |
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委員報告,委員剛剛也特別提到,有關那個應該是捷運綠線,台中的捷運綠線的延伸,不管是往這個往北或往南,往南就是到委員的這個帳劃地區,那這部分他所遇到的問題,大概在這個這一段期間,大家也都釐清的有一定的瞭解,那這部分的我想也是一樣,我們會請鐵道局跟地方政府, |
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我希望就是說中央跟地方一起合作將這個地方引頸期盼的重大建設能夠儘速來進行而不是一拖拖了一二十年還是在原地打轉 |
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謝謝黃修芳委員的諮詢。我們最後請郭育淺委員諮詢。謝謝主席。有請教育部。有請教育部留持。 |
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我想其實我們知道前瞻計畫的項目很多那最重要的其實跟教育部有關的我覺得在我們一些體育的賽事的場合那也都有這樣子的一個投資跟我們一個整個所有設施跟一個目標希望就是在這些場合當中我們可以看到更國際化的一個狀況 |
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| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
14908.773 |
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我今天就桃園樂天棒球場優化改善的一個工程來提出一些我個人的一些問題了。我想在整個所有的教育部你們在等於說在 |
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合法或者是在整個所有的監管的一個過程當中然後跟地方政府的權責的部分到底是怎麼樣去分就是我們教育部難道是這個優化的一個經費撥下去之後然後最後其實就交給地方政府他們給你們什麼然後你們就照單全收還是說其實我們在管理跟查核的他們的工程的進度的部分 |
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是有一些些落差,包含其實我們就是體育署這邊回應給我們的部分,就是說只有在15%到80%這個部分我們辦理工程的品質的一個查核。那我想問的是,81%之後呢,難道就直接到最後的決算、決案、結案,然後我們的教育部才知道嗎? |
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| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
公務員報告他基本上是說在那個在我們大概在實際工程進度58%的時候那時候有做一次工程品質查核那次工程品質查核查分數是81分但是也有40項缺失事項讓他們改善那在這之後並不是直接因為他基本上他竣工他3月29號申報竣工之後還是有經過中子聯盟場看跟驗收然後測試賽 |
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我們大概是依照這樣一個過程, |
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因為我收到的這份報告這個也蠻奇妙的因為這個報告應該是在3月中就是整理過後然後4月整理然後我們拿到的這份這個報告但是這個報告應該是3月份的部分你們的一些報告的內容但是報告上面直接就寫了已完工這個部分是不是在時間點有一個很大的一個落差 |
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| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
關於您剛有特別提到就是在缺點跟優點的部分其實我們有做了一個 |
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15038.221 |
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有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案。 |
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公文報告這比較細的我們能不能請體育署來回答?好來請 |
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跟委員報告,那個3月以後去進行工程查核的時候,的確委員針對這個部分有提出39項加1項,總共40項的缺失,要市政府這邊來做一個改善。裡面大部分的,它缺失比較多的項目,應該就是這些書圖、表件,它資料呈現的比較不齊全。 |
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另外,限地看起來的話,應該是外野的地平這部分也有一些缺失,還有一些漏水的部分要做一個改善。所以比較看起來比較嚴重的,比較嚴重應該還是限地這個地平的改善。不過因為我們相關的一個工程查核完了之後,會把查核的意見給市政府。 |
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市政府針對這些缺失要逐項逐項的回復改善的一個情況。市政府這邊也在上個禮拜有把相關的一個缺失改善的情形有報到體育署。署裡面這邊也有先請委員這邊先整個先進行那個那個核對。目前看起來是之前的一些缺失的一個情況,他們是已經有完成改善了。 |
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所以我們大概在近期的時候會正式核備它改善的一個情況。所以改善的情況的一些最新的資訊目前還在整理當中嗎?對。因為這個地方我們看到它的缺點有39項,它的優點32項,但是總缺點的扣計的點數是0。 |
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因為這個案子後來是沒有被扣分,作為工程查核來講的話是還OK的,然後查核是加等。好,那我想這個部分就是關於查核,實地的查核。這部分我們會來監督,持續來監督。其實我們真的不是只有前面的15%到80%,其實有100%。 |
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法定人數不足 |
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謝謝郭育群委員的質詢,我們今天上午的會議就到這邊結束,下午一點半繼續開會,休息。 |
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好我們繼續開會請大家肅靜按鈴好我們繼續開會請大家就位肅靜接著我們請鄭天才委員鄭天才委員鄭天才委員鄭天才委員不在接著我們請武力法委員質詢 |
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謝謝主席。有請經管會、財政部、園民會、農業部。沒有經管會。也沒有財政部。園民會。還有內政部。 |
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好我在這個會期起初3月4號跟3月7號那分別呢有質詢過經管會跟財政部有關原保地貸款的這個議題那為什麼關心這個問題因為這是原住民多年來的一個訴求跟陳情因為在我們的原保地來講 |
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委員會主席 |
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那麼如果以價錢來看的話,一般林地呢,他們是採取市場的建價,那原保地都有所謂的公告限值,那到底可以帶多少呢?一樣的面積,可能一般林地是400萬,那原保地呢,就是估起來大概是160。那為什麼會這樣?所有的銀行都會告訴我們一件事, |
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因為依據《三保條例》第37條第二項,它有提到這個移轉以原住民為限,所以讓大家都覺得這個因為有受到限制,流通性不佳,所以承待的意願就不高。 |
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那麼這個部分就是沒有這個貸款意願也就罷了他們也提到原保地的建架很困難那或許可以作為一個理由啦所以呢我在財政部的一個質詢有拿到他的回覆報告了他是這麼建議的他說建架系統建議原民會是需要洽詢內政部協處 |
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原住民保留地市價偏低,建架系統不全,所以要問內政部,這樣的問題您覺得是內政部還是原民會? |
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委員當然如果是不動產估價的部分當然還是內政部我們還是有一定的責任那我會建議這個問題有點類似像幾年前我們講地上權的估價其實也是建價困難等等等等那當然因為逐步的有實價登錄之後會比較多資訊那我會建議我想這部分到時候請原民會我們跟我們內政部地政司我們討論一下是不是請估價施工會先針對原保地的部分來研究一套 |
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主席主席主席主席 |
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根據原民會的組織法,確實沒有辦理地價業務的單位,也確實沒有被授權要辦理地價的業務,所以這個部分當然也就沒有處理地價的這種組織跟人力。 |
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內政部組織法第2條確實有地價與不動產交易業務職責,內政部也有地政司的地價科。 |
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而且,講更多一點,跟地價相關的法令,像未來會涉及土地法、平均地權條例、不動產估價計數、地價調查估計、還有地價與標準地價評議委員會的作業規範、地價的基準,還有選定。 |
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這些要點等等都是屬於內政部長管的法令,所以本席才會在這個地方要求是不是原保地地價的研究,那麼之後依法令調整原保地地價能夠歸屬內政部,那也希望內政部本於職權來協助原民會。那剛才次長您的答覆已經很好了,您再簡單講一次。 |
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好,我們就當然這應該是內政部的職責沒有問題啦但當然並不是說依法令調整原保地地價我可能文字上面是不是容許我們跟原民會來合作那我們來建立一個原保地估價的這個體系 |
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原住民在自己的土地當別人的故宮 |
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原保地能夠到銀行被承擔做擔保品這件事情會改變原住民的整個財政體質所以我在這個地方非常的感謝那最後我還要感謝因為我在4月10號有開一個原保地的研商會議那特別有請到農業部農業金庫也有來他們是給我正面的答覆喔他們是很願意來去做這個原保地的一個專門的一個 |
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主席 |
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18364.654 |
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謝謝吳立法委員的質詢。緊接著我們請廖偉祥委員質詢。廖偉祥、廖偉祥、廖偉祥不在。接著我們請嚴寬恒委員質詢。嚴寬恒、嚴寬恒、嚴寬恒不在。接著我們請李坤澤委員質詢。謝謝郭國文、趙偉。麻煩一下陳彥博次長,還有鐵道局溫護局長。來,請陳次、請局長。 |
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委員好 |
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市長好,針對高雄的大眾運輸我們希望在這幾年讓它逐漸成型最主要的原因就是在於交通部統計2022年公共運輸的市佔率我們可以看到台北市是37.2新北市是28.7然後高雄市只有8.4那公共運輸的市佔率會如此低落 |
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雖然在過去這幾年一直的努力不管是原本的紅線跟橘線的通車以及台鐵捷運化新增7個通勤車站捷運化的這條路線加上輕軌臨港線早已完工那大順路這一段也順利的完工成員對於提升大眾運輸這個民眾很有感那高雄市民也一再的要求輕軌 |
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主席 |
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以及高雄捷運小港寧元縣的修正計畫案。或者是高雄都會區大眾捷運系統岡山路組的延伸線。這些都有相關的修正的計畫在進行當中。那請教一下溫代局長、溫夫局長相關的計畫的進度如何? |
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跟委員報告,剛剛提到的這個黃縣跟小港陵園縣都在4月1號的時候市府就提報修正計畫來,4月11號的時候交通部也交下鐵道局在審查,那我們目前在很快的在積極審查當中這兩案。 |
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好,這一些都是關係到大高雄地區相關的大眾運輸系統是否能夠初步的成型。初步的成型對於運輸的人口、運輸的市佔率會幫助非常大。除了目前的這一些新的捷運的修正計畫在進行當中,新的紙線也在6月中 |
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可行性評估就會出來,讓我們會繼續的相關的計畫跟預算必須要逐步的落實,希望能夠讓高雄的大眾運輸系統逐漸的成型與發展。 |
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另外就是有關於氣象局、氣象署。氣象署我們對於地震的這些預報,這個在2011年因為日本福島地震,所以在2012年我就要求 |
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| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
第1次聯席會議第1次聯席會議第2次聯席會議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
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比較危險性比較大的地震有7成都是在東部的外海 |
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所以當初我們有設置一個媽祖計畫這兩天是媽祖生那這個計畫就叫做媽祖結尾啦媽祖結尾就是在海底埋電纜從東北角一直往南延伸經過恆春然後到仿山的中華電信所來上岸這是123期相關的一個進度那現在更重要的 |
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我們在推動往南延伸的這樣的一個海底電纜的計畫這個計畫原本是預計800公里但是就是因為相關的這些進度相關的這些預算因為缺工缺料以及相關流標的這些過程現在氣象署已經將800公里縮減到只有200公里那 |
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18669.657 |
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這陣期間大家談到地震大家民心非常的擔憂相關地震的對於人民生命財產所造成的這樣的一個衝擊國家級警報是擔負起預警的一個重要的工作那我們現在往南延伸的這個部分相關的預算跟進度這個次長你清楚嗎 |
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這一點我們會再跟交通部以及氣象署來進行相關的這樣的一個持續的推動那相關的有關於捷運相關的修正計畫最主要還是在於經費的這樣的一個補助我們來看捷運黃線的修正草案要加上964億 |
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小港寧元縣修正計畫案增加32億元以上,岡山路竹延伸線提升至89億元以上。 |
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18730.081 |
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這些相關的經費我們希望能夠趕快的能夠落實讓這些大眾運輸系統關係到高雄未來的一個整體發展大眾運輸路線是要配合一個都市的發展提升它的相關的大眾運輸的功能 |
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18747.416 |
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除了促進生活的方便、交通的便捷、產業的發展,都是有很重要的一個提升的作用。也請次長跟鐵道局、文務局長針對可行性評估之中的指線,我們來加以關注。希望, |
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18774.665 |
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這樣才能夠讓初步的高雄大眾捷運的路網能夠初步的一個成型,這個還是要繼續的努力。是,我跟委員補充報告,有關剛才提到的岡山路竹段的那個競配的修正,行政院已經核定了,那跟委員說一下。第一步的修正已經核定,那還是有一些追加的部分,我們會持續的再跟交通部來進行對話,希望能夠 |
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早日給予高雄協助,讓大眾運輸系統能夠逐步成型。以上。好,謝謝交通委員會資深委員李坤哲委員的諮詢。請接著我們請李坤誠委員諮詢。謝謝主席。我們請交通部城市長。來,有請城市。 |
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18825.263 |
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委員好市長好我今天上午也聽了很多委員都在詢問這個有關於我們前瞻預算地下停車場的經費的問題那這個該地下停車場不是只有我新北市或是三重我相信這個全台灣的這一個立委都希望能爭取這個地下停車場 |
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18834.857 |
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但是我也問過這個我們公路局公路局說我們的前瞻停車場的這個計畫是8年是到明年嘛對不對但是呢我們的計畫呢本來是200億後來追加了60億260億260億已經用完了是不是 |
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18865.659 |
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261我們都也分配完了就表示大家有這個需求嘛對不對那需求那可是你的計畫是到明年啊那你2月就沒有錢了接下來我們也報了很多計畫上去我自己三重也報了包含這一個有開源公園啊六張公園啊大同公園等等那難道沒有錢了那計畫還是到計畫是到明年才結束那沒有錢就不做了嗎還是說繼續再爭取預算那繼續再做 |
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18870.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
18885.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
跟委員報告一下有關這個前瞻之所以停車前瞻預算有把停車場納進去就是認為說這樣的一個停車的有需求對對解決都市交通問題很有幫助對我們都支持所以才從200億也增加到260億 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
18886.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
18888.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
市長,早上提醒一下,研議是說再去追加預算,再把它補進去還是怎麼樣? |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
18905.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
18920.636 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
這個部分因為畢竟這個是前瞻計畫結束了預算當然結束那後續呢是計畫是到明年啊對明年明年結束完以後我意思是說這明年才結束那預算現在就沒有了那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
18922.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
18947.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
我們目前來講會先從既有的這個計畫裡頭看相關的這個經費大家各因為各指向的計畫大家執行的情形進度不一啦看是不是可以有一些滾動上的一個檢討能不能再爭取預算再來蓋地下停車場我相信是很多立法委員的需求啊我剛才就講說相關的預算是不是還可以這一部分我們會去研議看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
18948.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
18967.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
那研議是要怎麼做啊?我早上就聽你跟很多立委講說研議,我就想說好那研議是要怎麼研議勒?去哪裡找錢勒?研議很重要就是找錢嘛,那找錢要從哪裡找怎麼找,這就是研議之所在。那你就是跟我繞了一圈了。 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
18968.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
18992.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
對,所以我很具體跟你講,就是要去研議,要去想辦法討論。不是啦,我的意思是說你這樣子,你不要是糊弄我啊。沒有,沒有,我跟委員沒有糊弄,沒有糊弄。那我問你,停車場要不要繼續做?原則上,各地方政府做停車場,這我們都很樂見,是。那當然啦,地方像我新北市政府就有停款基金嘛,那如果沒有這個中央前瞻預算撥下去的話,沒有辦法做到那麼多啦。 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
18993.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
19001.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
所以有些地方如果停管基金可以的話還有急迫性他可以先去做這沒有問題那我就不用來問你了所以我問你就是說現在預算不夠了是不是要再來找預算來繼續再來做停車場嗎是不是有這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
19010.891 |
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19038.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
這樣就是我剛才講的,我們朝這個方向來…來,跟新的院長再來爭取這個預算好不好?這個我們會在交通部相關的這個內部會去討論,必要時我們會跟新的院長…有必要啊,我看今天這麼多委員都有問到這個地下停車場啊,有這個需求啊,只是我早上聽到說你在演繹,我想說到底是早上也是演繹,下午也是演繹,那有沒有新的東西出來啊?不好意思,我還是要演繹啦,還是要演繹,是,謝謝。 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
19040.188 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
19040.328 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
19059.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
19075.873 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
市長,我們在去年4月就有提出來凍保法的修正案,已經過了一年了,去年4月到現在預告凍保法的修正案,這個預告要預告一年這麼久嗎?到現在還提不出來嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
19077.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
19097.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
謝謝委員關心,因為其實動物保護真的是大家都很期待。這個過去年大家就希望說動物保護要修法,那你們馬上也開了很多的這個會議說這個來討論,然後我們農委會也升個這個農業部了,然後還多了這個動物保護師,那結果,那我現在問你這個動保法最新的修法進度,這個會期會不會提出來? |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
19099.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
19123.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
應該這樣還是會提出來,但是不會是整個像我們當初預告的,因為當中有很多利害關係人跟我們說有些部分還要再研議,所以我們會分成兩塊,有共識的先走,那需要再檢討就再檢討,因為還是要往前走。是啊,那我的意思是說這個會期能不能提出來,因為你們是大休嘛,你們本來是大休嘛,那現在會不會再提出來?還是會提出來,但是就有共識。預計哪時候會提出來? |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
19124.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
19143.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
有共識的部分會先提。對,那我說這個會期會不會提出來啦?我們希望可以,因為這個事情真的已經拖了一年了。有,那這當中其實也很多利害關鍵,其實我們都一直在討論。我知道啦,我的意思是說齁,這個還是要往前走嘛,這已經拖了一年的時間,那我希望這個會期能夠提出來好不好? |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
19144.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
19144.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
主席我們再請內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
19176.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
19197.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
請花斥花斥這做得比較久,給我30秒就好了,你做得比較遠。請教一下,在這個三重有一個迎新未來城,那這個迎新未來城,我想請問一下次長,那到底是說現在是卡在哪裡?是卡在這個新北市政府提出的計畫你們不滿意,比如他要當這個做長照, |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
19198.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
19200.064 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
中央政府預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
19226.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
19230.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
其實新北市是用新加坡的案例在copy,而新加坡是用原有的商業區和住宅區在做。 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
19243.178 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
19270.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
那現在是用公共設施用地在做的時候,它裡面的商業機能和內涵還是這麼高,其實可能就不是很恰當。也就是說,三重還有很多缺乏的公共用途的空間,應該要先考慮補足,可能會比較重要,會比商業開發來得更重要。因為它當然有它,因為它是BOT,所以它一定有一些商業的部分善。其實不一定要BOT啊。不一定要BOT。是啊。那經費不足的部分怎麼辦?它就是經費不夠啊。 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
19272.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
19299.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
地方政府也沒有這麼多經費啊?其實有不同的補助,衛福部有衛福部的補助,內政部有內政部社宅的補助,其實本來就...那你們有跟新北市政府講說不一定要BOT的方式來做嗎?不是,我們...因為他們這樣子的一個計畫並沒有得到衛福部肯認說它是屬於社福的功能。好,那所以現在問題是卡在衛福部還是卡在內政部?都沒有卡,是卡在新北市政府的計畫不好。計畫不好?那所以他們,你會叫他們再重修啊? |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
19300.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
19322.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
當然都跟他們提示過,我也跟侯市長都跟他說過了。請花式私底下再跟李偉說。那你再請人家來跟我說明好了,好不好?因為這個案子,地方已經閒置兩、三年了啦。是,因為計畫不好啦,所以說請還是回去跟市府講一點。計畫不好你跟我講,回去跟他們做檢討好不好?請這個看是哪個單位?國土管理署嗎?還是? |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
19326.144 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
19326.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
請交通部陳次長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
19358.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
19375.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
市長午安。我想首先我要在這邊說的就是對於曾經歷經這個前瞻特別條例跟前瞻特別預算審查的委員來說,今天在這邊應該感觸非常的深,因為就是在同樣一個會議室, |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
19377.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
19388.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
想當年在審查這個條例跟特別預算的時候我們遭受到很大的一個阻擾雖然在那個時候這樣子的面臨的這個丟水球丟麵粉這樣子的將紛亂的分斷的一個狀況之下我們讓這個前瞻特別預算終於通過了那時間真的過得很快一轉眼這明年就到期了114年就到期了 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
19404.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
19425.989 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
那在這8年為期8年這個前瞻特別預算在這幾年執行下來相信很多地方這個成績也都一一的浮現了都有具體的一個成效了我想這個也都讓國人都感觸非常的深也看在眼裡那在這邊我首先也要來講的就是關心的就是停車場停車場的問題那我們知道在前瞻特別預算裡面我們總共有編列了260億 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
19433.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
19435.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
市長,目前進度如何?現在完工有四件,規劃中的還有一件規劃中的是哪一件? |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
19460.736 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
19469.602 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
規劃中的是藍郭立體停車場在我的選區就是山河公園的地下停車場據我所知是還沒有辦落成完工的典禮目前完工了可是還沒有完工典禮還沒有正式的啟用 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
19488.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
19509.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
其實這個停車場對於都市化的地區真的是非常的重要。我們也知道最近幾年很多對於交通安全的改善跟提升也是受到國人很大的期待跟關注,尤其就是要改善行人地域這樣子的一個交通的亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
19512.072 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
19538.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
其實我們知道交通的亂象都是息息相關的所以你看歷經去年的檢舉達人檢舉的一個狀況事實上也是因為我們很多的公共設施不足所以在這種狀況之下你導致很多民眾他要在停車的時候他的需求就是不足所以就是說在這種狀況之下要去取締這個違規真的也是造成很多的一個民怨 |
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19539.642 |
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19562.436 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
所以我在這邊要講的就是說很多當然我們剛剛那個李委員有提到其實很多委員都期待就是說未來對於地方的這個停車場的一個需求還是有這樣子的很大的一個需求所以我們未來希望就是說在這個部分交通部還是要去努力的爭取啦因為我想當然這個前瞻特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
19563.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
19563.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
19581.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
19604.529 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
是,這一部分我今天早上也對幾個委員大概也說過,我們也了解到停車問題的一個解決對很多縣市政府來講都非常的重要,所以這一部分有關前瞻的這個停車場的預算結束之後呢,後續相關的一個經費的預算的來源,這我們會認真的去研議,看用什麼方式來提供這樣的一個預算計畫,讓縣市政府能夠繼續來申請。 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
19606.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
19634.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
好謝謝那其實這幾年就是說因為有特別預算就是前瞻特別預算讓我們地方很多的大型的公共建設可以來推動了包括這個提升道路品質因為這個部分也讓我們整個地方的這個道路品質都可以提升所以我覺得在這些的一個政績方面我們也希望交通部要多多的做了宣傳讓人民可以有更具體的一個感受 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
19634.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
19654.746 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
那再來我要講的就是有關這個TPAS的月票使用的情形這個是我們就是後來的疫後潤性經濟這個特別預算的部分那在這個部分目前就我所知就是說目前使用的人數都是在60多萬人是不是?次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
19656.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
19673.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
平均加值是六十幾萬人次在加值每個月意思就是說一個月到了會有再繼續有六十幾萬人所以平均應該就是全國每個月大概都是六十多萬的人次人數在使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
19674.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
19703.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
所以看起來就是北部就是北台灣及北北桃的使用率比較高對於其他縣市應該使用率比較低在中南部來說原則上當然會有一些程度上的不同但是整體而言TPAS下去以後對整體的使用的運量大概是增加到15.8所以應該是有一定的一個成長那在不同的運距別之間它的成長更是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
19704.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
19707.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
整體使用人次目前停留在60多萬,交通部有沒有考慮提升使用人次? |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
19725.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
19746.068 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
我想這一部分我們會在應該是下一期啦,其實明年開始我們會去有一些交通平權,其實平權就是剛才講的對於其他的縣市政府,不是北北季以外的縣市政府,如何提升他的TPAS或公共運輸的使用率的這樣的一個措施,會在這裡頭後續來推出。 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
19747.669 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
19768.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
我覺得除了區域性的考量之外就是說一般一個普遍性的提升的話本席在這邊就是要建議就是說因為我有接到鄉親的一個反應就是說因為我們目前是以月票的一個形式每個月儲值一千二的使用是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
19770.602 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
19786.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
以北部來為例的話,對有的民眾來說,他一個月可能使用大概15次,他的需求可能只有15次,所以你要他扶植一千二的話,對他來說可能就是相較之下也 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
19786.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
19787.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
19817.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
19818.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
謝謝主席,本席想邀請國科會副主委陳中強 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
19850.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
19851.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
19859.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
19884.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
來,陳副,我想請問,前瞻計畫的第1期到第4期,那麼你們獲得了408億的預算,那本席看到你們的科技部的補助專題研究的這個計畫報告裡頭,我發現有同一個學者,三份的計畫,他的成果報告大致雷同,大致雷同。所以呢你們在補助研究計畫辦理, |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
19886.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
19906.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
怎麼會是如此呢?同一個學者,三份的成果報告都雷同,這是第一點。所以你們要怎麼樣去精進這個補助?這個很重要,這是第一個,你待會兒回答。因為我們看到本席非常重視你們提的激勵, |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
19907.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
19911.711 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
19925.327 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
19945.094 |
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那你們在政府也擴大投入在半導體、電量子、太空、淨零碳排、高零科技、6G等這些關鍵的領域的一個發展。所以在這樣的情況之下呢,高階科研人才是非常的重要,是台灣的一個資產。 |
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19946.614 |
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19975.504 |
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因此你們在113年的20.5億元預計從113年到117年這個計畫呢延續性的課題是156.6億所以它是持續的在佈局嘛那所以持續的佈局在科專的補助很重要啊那如果說一個學者同一個學者三份的計畫研究都是雷同的答案是超超也得說啊 |
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19976.144 |
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19979.613 |
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可以如此嗎?好不容易有這個經費,我們應該要精進啊,對不對? |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
19983.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
20006.903 |
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是,跟委員報告一下因為這個其實國家的這個高階科研人才那對我們各方面的這個未來社會的一個挑戰都非常的重要這很重要啊,所以你可以這樣隨便補一補嗎那委員垂詢的這個我們可能要看個案因為有時候老師他研究的一個時程所以本期具體建議,好不容易有這個預算這我們會來加強的一個到117年 |
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20012.146 |
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20030.024 |
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我還嫌不夠勒我還嫌156.6億還不夠勒對不對我還嫌不夠但是你不能再有限的經費你的你要去看你的成果啊你同一個學者三個成果計畫都差不多不可以如此的 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
20030.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
20031.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
接下來我要請衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
20062.628 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
委員好我們這個少子化的問題已經成為國安的危機那人家台積電寶寶著重的計畫2.0你知道吧私人公司他們自己去籌劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
20063.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
20086.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
他甚至在我們新竹、台中、台南他設置了4所的幼兒園配合員工的上下班時間他提供從早上7點到晚上8點的托育民間這麼做喔那我們呢我們只有說鼓勵人家多生政府什麼理由叫人家多生你用什麼去協助人家所以呢我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
20087.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
20106.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
人家臺積電2023年臺灣廠區的新生兒多少?2463人,是佔我們的新生兒比例的1.8%,它是民間公司,所以在這樣的一個情況之下,我們要怎麼樣去讓這個計畫可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
20111.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
20135.724 |
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有應對啊,請就說明一下。謝謝委員的指教。這是我們在少子女化對策,這是0到6歲,這是包括2歲以下是衛福部,2到6歲是教育部。我們其實都有積極的在佈建公共化,還有準公共化的一個托育的一個服務。那我想說這幾年來其實真的有大幅的一個提升。 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
20136.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
20137.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
請停止你的回答,因為你目前所做的就是不符合。 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
20155.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
20183.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
沒解決我們少子化的問題如果我們的官員回到這裡來討論你一樣只有講你目前的政策那我們是打岔的因為我們要的是要怎麼樣解決給了預算最重要你要怎麼去解決所以這個部分你在第4期的預算裡頭是4億你要怎麼去解決方案拿出來書面資料給本席好不好我們不要成為全世界生育率最低的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
20184.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
20185.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
本席要請教現在詐騙集團的一大堆詐騙集團詐騙的一大堆怎麼辦? |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
20185.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
20188.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
書發部你有沒有發現到一個問題詐騙手法已經侵入到哪裡?侵入到社福跟慈善公益團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
20212.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
20237.372 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
有這個方案喔!民眾你愛心捐款188元你可以參加抽獎喔!無所不用其極耶!他從社福、從公益團體這樣子做!目前我們一再要求你的網路廣告平台裡頭要加強廣告刊登驗證嘛!對不對?你事劃部現在是刊登這個驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
20239.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
20262.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
希望讓民眾更清楚知道這是真的還是假我們現在是這樣子但是我們看到這個受騙的賬戶還是很多所以我要請書法部這邊你們要去研擬甚至連詐騙集團已經到了這一個社會團體都進入太恐怖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
20263.14 |
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20272.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
你們除了驗證碼之外,你還有什麼因應的方案?讓詐騙不要這麼猖獗,可以對應之,好不好?是嗎?不? |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
20273.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
20297.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
是,謝謝委員。我們在打造專訪裡面也有針對廣路廣告平台的部分會有強化管理跟驗證的措施。另外,委員提到…驗證還是我們一直要求啊,對不對?那你除了這個之外,還有什麼可以提名?打造專訪目前是5個部會共同組成,所以裡面包含之後委員提到的受騙賬戶的救濟包括費用的部分,這個在法務…這個部分在法務部那邊都有提出相關救濟的方式。好。 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
20297.742 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
20309.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
好,我就有一句話喔,請你把詐騙目前日新月異的手法,你們去盤點,然後我們還可以怎麼樣去研擬方案出來,好不好?那書面資料給本席,謝謝。 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
20323.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
20325.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
前瞻這幾年花了不少錢,前前後後前瞻總共的預算是多少? |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
20354.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
20359.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
錢真總額是八千四百億。我們看到每個部會都非常的努力最努力成果最好的是誰? |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
20379.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
20399.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
我覺得大家都非常努力那最不努力的執行率最低的是誰?執行率應該就是說要看他那個計畫的性質有一些他執行率可能是一些就是流標等等不同的因素跟是不是努力不必然有關係這就錢了8474很大的一筆錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
20404.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
20426.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
那一般全各單位就要就拼命要可是有沒有人在做追蹤考核呢?基本上就是國化會針對他那個計畫的進度還有相關有關工程的部分這是公共工程委員會也都有比較重大的計畫會列管 |
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20429.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
20457.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
這是好像大鍋飯,反正錢來了大家拼命花,那到底有沒有效果也不清楚。比如說蘇泊部,來我們接著請蘇泊部,也請主計總處這邊也可以聽一下。像蘇泊部這一兩年來你們總共花了多少錢?我原是預算嗎?我們每年大概,我們年度的公務預算去年是六十幾億,今年是七三億。那做得好不好? |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
20458.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
20480.644 |
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做得好不好大家公平,我們很努力,我們有在盡力。有在進步,你覺得做得好嗎?做得好不好大家公平,我們有在盡力。那做得好就應該繼續做啊。你們現在的部長是誰?我們現在的部長是唐鳳。唐鳳,他有沒有續任?行政院以行政院公佈的人士為主。所以啊? |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
20482.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
20508.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
行政院公布怎樣?行政院公布的人事為主,我不方便講說。他換掉了是不是?今天為什麼沒來?今天就是由我來。我知道,我看到你當然知道你來啊。那做得好你就應該讓他繼續做啊。是不是因為他做不好讓他下台?每一屆政府的人事我不便評論。你們每年都花那麼多錢齁。 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
20509.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
20529.201 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
結果現在人民所詬病的還是打詐那我如果再繼續問你,你一定說打詐跟你沒關係詐騙那麼多跟你有沒有關係?跟每個部會都有關係好,跟每個部會有關係你是不是主要的關係?我們擔任協助的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
20530.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
20553.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
你是協助,那主要是誰?打造綱領裡面有4個主責部會,我們是協助的角色。你們是協助,那主要是誰?打造綱領上面寫的是法務部、內政部。所以法務部是錯誤的,還有呢?內政部是不是?內政部,還有呢?通常會跟經管會。什麼會?通常會跟經管會。經管會? |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
20555.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
20580.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
那所以問題都是他不是你就對了?我們沒有這樣說過。那你說你誰辦啊?其實書報部現在大家發現打詐的流程當中,要嘛不然就是收簡訊,不然就是這個社群媒體LINE或是這些相關的。事實上你們在第一線該做的都可以直接就有作為啊。 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
20582.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
20607.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
或者你們發現比較異常的部分,你們應該可以控管啊。為什麼該管而不管,然後每年都花那麼多錢。好啦,我請協辦就下去好了啦,因為協辦最後你們也辦不了什麼事,然後錢就是繼續這樣花。請經濟部。請林赤。林赤喔。 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
20609.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
20629.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
林次長是這樣子,大概一般我們講的就是油電水氣、民生相關。那現在立法院已經決議說電價要動漲,這是全民的期盼。那立法院已經通過了,你們就應該遵照辦理吧。 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
20632.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
20645.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
這個部分事實上我們現在都是依法在辦理當中。依哪一個法?電力法的規定來做這相關的一個審議分組。可是立法院又有新的決議啊。決議就是說你們不能漲電價。面對這樣的情況,你是會漲還是不要漲? |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
20649.235 |
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20670.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
我跟委員報告,我是公務人員,所以我們現在依照的部分就是按照法律規定,4月1號審查通過,以4月1號審查通過的執行方案在進行中。4月1號,那昨天是幾號?昨天是5月1號。5月1號,那禮拜二就是又前天了。那時候立法院已經決議有通過了。是。 |
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20671.761 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
20697.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
所以我剛剛講到說我們4月1號已經按照相關規定的方式來做處理。立法院通過了啊,那你立法院通過你要不要照辦啊?我想這個部分可能要更嚴謹的去思考那個部分的規範是如何。你就公務人員執行刑事法裡面看嘛,立法院的決議你們要尊崇啊。如果你們沒有遵照立法院的決議下去做,那誰來決定喔?我們是準備要提高那個人喔。 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
20699.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
20726.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
譬如說現在已經說凍漲結果有一個人叫做林全能他在公文上批說要漲那以後有出問題我就告你喔我想我們依法行事我沒有特別這個那你怕不怕告我們依法行事我們就不用太擔心因為我們就分開嘛是誰決定就找誰啊抽絲剝繭啊全民都是支持凍漲的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
20728.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
20737.823 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
那你要立法委員就是代表民眾阿在立法院決議通過的案你不但要尊重你還必須要遵照辦理阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
20740.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
20767.263 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
我剛剛已經說得很清楚,我們會依法來做相關的一個工作的資訊。你要小心啊,我因為我認識你齁,我是站在你的角度齁,來幫你啦。謝謝委員,你提醒一下,謝謝委員。政府是鐵打的衙門啊,流水的關啊。你不要因為這個事你就流掉了,以後也不會有人記得你啦。只會,當你接到傳票的時候你要去開,有人要告你啊。因為你沒有遵照立法院的決議在辦理。 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
20768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
20773.231 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
理解嗎?謝謝委員提醒。謝謝劉委員。謝謝。謝謝劉召偉的諮詢。緊接著我們請黃士堅委員諮詢。謝謝召見。我請交通部次長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
20797.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
20801.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
我多次在財政委員會諮詢,我要求財政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
20820.153 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
20842.312 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
應該針對我們國家有一項正重大的就是要引導受險業資金來投入我們的公共建設那這二十幾年下來受險業的資金投入公共建設其實那個金額都不大好歹至少 |
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20847.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
20857.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
4、5年前還可以還一年有500億啦109年、110年、111年逐年下滑那還好500億滑下來355、443、112億可以說到了112年是雪崩式的下滑只剩下這112億 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
20873.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
20874.069 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
20893.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
20917.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
資金可用的資金只花了萬分之三到我們國家的公共建設來幫忙做這一部分的投資。杯水車薪少之又少。那原因我就去查了一下。查了一下,原來我們各單位、各部會其實也不怎麼當一回事。 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
20919.059 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
20939.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
各部會長管有公共建設需求的,也從來也不會找財政部幫忙說,我們有這條政策,我們國內有來自於我們全體國民的保險、受險的基金、資金可用。 |
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20946.26 |
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20965.095 |
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一方面受選業他們也樂得他們去找更多更高收益的地方,像國外都去啦,他們去了國外連二國都去了,因為他說那邊利率高,也不怕說那邊在戰爭有戰爭的風險, |
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20968.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
20991.629 |
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因為他們哪邊有利益就往哪邊去那把我們國家公共建設擺一邊這裡面交通部、內政部、衛福部你們公共建設不少耶交通部我比較沒話講交通部確實有做這一部分的努力交通部好歹好歹這三年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
20996.376 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
20997.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
發行了7樣、7種的乙類公債 |
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21001.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
21027.937 |
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那這是請財政部幫忙的這做了這一些不錯的包括在民航、在國道、鐵道這一部分的投資國道建設計畫、桃園航空城的建設計畫等等等至少交通部還做了這些啦所以我今天找內政部、衛福部你們兩位次長上好就是要問你們說你們做了哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
21030.081 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
21039.767 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
幾乎沒做!太多!不當你為是!是誰決定發言權?那個...交通部!有一份命令!你站上來我要誇你!吼!真是!你站好我才能誇你嘛!不是嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
21058.427 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
21085.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
好,政府我要誇獎你,不錯,在這麼多部會裡面,你是不會說啊,我們要用錢吼,那就大筆一揮,反正有兩兆八千億嘛,吼,這個坐在金山銀山上面,筆一揮就有錢,你們沒有這麼做,你們確實很積極的找了財政部幫你們發了這些乙類公債,這很好,這非常好。 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
21085.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
21110.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
那我要問你的就是說那再來你們還有沒有繼續比方說我們台北市、我們台中市甚至高雄市我們有那麼多捷運的計畫要興建那現在捷運不只台北台中、高雄都欠缺這一部分捷運他們的預算的補助交通部補助的超過有的4層、5層、6層不等 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
21113.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
21129.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
但是是不是你們協助各縣市的捷運來代發這些捷運基金,因為捷運有自償性嘛,不是嗎?他做好了以後,乘客買票來搭乘,他就有這些收益,你們可不可以做到? |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
21131.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
21155.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
跟委員報告一下,因為這個剛才提到的很多的建設,其實它都有它的財務計畫,它財務計畫裡頭會去講到相關的經費如何籌措,那委員特別提到是不是可以協助地方政府採取類似像我們這裡頭交通部的這些發行,不管是公債也好,或者是透過保險基金來協助也好,這個我想我們可以找他們來談一下。 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
21156.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
21165.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
你們要做 你要發行的這些公債受險就沒有藉口可以講你有這些他要來投資他要來買呀不是嗎好不好 你們前幾次成功的這幾項我誇獎你們 那你們繼續以這幾個建設公債當例子那你就可以趕快大舉的來做包括捷運的部分 那個內政部該你了 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
21181.144 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
21195.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
你那麼多社宅,社宅也是自償性的公共建設不是嗎?你那麼多的社宅,那個衛福部我沒時間了,衛福部我一起說,衛福部你們也都沒做,你們那麼多長照, |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
21196.289 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
21212.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
那麼多醫療院所,我看你們最近在台北醫院急重症的大樓,包括你們台中榮董的第三醫學大樓,長照的我們有豐原醫院後里的長照機構,有胸腔病院新市的長照機構,這些這麼多, |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
21215.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
21229.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
我沒看到外福部、看到內政部做這一方面的努力,不要讓受險資金、閒置啦、空檔啦還可以跑到戰爭的國家去投資,這不是很奇怪嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
21230.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
21246.784 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
我們應該各部會合作努力,把我們的公共建設尤其有自償性的委請財政部來幫忙,把授權資金導入我們國家的公共建設兩位次長可不可以做到。 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
21248.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
21248.629 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
主席黃建豪議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
21277.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
21283.336 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
理事長交通部次長還有觀光署觀光署今天是沒關係 沒關係副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
21294.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
21306.132 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
好,首先啊,這個數位部的部分,其實我今天本來沒有要問你的,但是呢,剛剛你對這個羅明財委員的回應,讓我覺得匪夷所思,也是很不可思議啊,談到詐騙的問題,因為詐騙的確是國人最關注的問題啊。 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
21311.357 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
21334.504 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
那其實你剛剛提到說你們是協力單位但是我今天為什麼要特別提出來因為你們的部長可能會不會是連你們部長跟你們自己那部業務對於你們推動的相關法案它的價值都不清楚所以部長被換掉了為什麼要講這個最近立法院剛剛三讀通過一個貴部提出來的重大法案這場什麼法案知道吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
21336.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
21357.084 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
電子簽章法,為什麼要推動電子簽章法?當初你們來說明的時候就是因為電子簽章法,它能夠去影響到現在這些網路上投放的廣告,能夠讓網路的身份上面能夠被實名的認證,能夠去解決詐騙的問題。那其實台灣現在詐騙有很多問題,就是源頭嘛,源頭我根本不知道這個人是誰啊。 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
21357.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
21385.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
他說他是這個陳文憲他說他是謝金河他說他是謝金河最近就說他是退休的部長他說是王美花最近也出現了他就說他要退休了他要去來教大家怎麼投資現在還在出現那就是因為有這麼多有的沒有的詐騙的源頭所以歷經了20幾年來終於數位部推出了這個數位簽章法本來電子簽章法本來是要給你們肯定的但是剛剛次長你剛剛好像我是很清楚你們在電子簽章法上對詐騙的貢獻的怎麼會這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
21387.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
21407.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
市長委員剛剛前面楊瓊英委員詢問的時候我們就已經說到我們會在廣告的平台身份驗證上面做強化的管理包含跟打炸專法有一個配套這個其實就是電子簽章法跟打炸專法所以我們沒有不清楚我們的說對啊所以你不是協力廠商而已啊你是主辦單位之一啊打炸打炸的部分在電子簽章法的部分我們是主政機關沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
21408.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
21409.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
我跟委員說明,我剛剛講的四個部會是根據行政院打詐綱領1.5跟2.0裡面的分工。 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
21435.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
21447.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
好啦,那你們社會部算不算打詐的主要責任之一?我們在打詐綱領裡面協調協助的部會,但是委員剛剛提到電子簽章是我們主政的。你還是認為你們是協助的角色之一就對了? |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
21452.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
21453.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
電子簽章法及打造專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
21467.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
21488.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
去年交通部有提出一個很重要的得證,就是T-pass行政通行月票。這部分是一年來,我看到這個數據如果有錯,拜託你糾正我一下。全國大概4月份有67.1萬人次加值購買T-pass。4月份的話北北季桃52.4萬、中張頭大概3萬、南高屏8.3萬、桃竹竹苗2.3萬。 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
21497.356 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
21522.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
其他地區使用行政院通勤月票人相對比較少。交通部對於看到這個數據以後,對於提升大家使用大眾運輸跟對應推動這項政策的成果,你滿不滿意?如果不滿意,我想應該是不滿意啦,因為除了台北、雙北很多人買之外,其他部會區、其他生活圈基本上購買的人很少,那原因到底在哪裡? |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
21523.713 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
21544.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
市長,我想跟委員報告一下,有關TPAS的這樣的一個執行到目前為止,其實它對於公共運輸的載客的人數,運量確實是有成長的。Normally來講的話,平均大概是15.8,然後再依據不同的運區別有不同的成長的一個幅度。 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
21544.671 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
21561.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
所以其實這樣的一個對於吸引民眾來使用公共運輸確實有它的一定成效。市長,你剛剛提的這15.8是平均嗎?平均,對對對。有沒有更細部的數字拜託你會後提供給我們,因為就像我提到了, |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
21562.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
21591.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
從數據上來看,雙北當然最多人搭乘,它的相對的運距也方便,其他地方呢,也是15.8嗎?還是高於或低於?這個是部分,市長你們這邊要再加強一下。我們要提供給你,提供給委員,而且它有各種不同運距別,沒問題。當然我們也看到有些縣市確實成長的幅度是,跟其他的平均是有差距的。那這一部分剛才我也特別提到過,我們因為通勤月票它是一個通勤的, |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
21591.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
21594.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
市長,除了現有的、現行的交通運輸之外,包含說像我提到的,像以台中、中張頭生活圈為例, |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
21616.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
21638.858 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
他這個人口明明在整個臺灣那樣人口算蠻多的但他能夠願意來購買這個通勤月票的他其實是個大生活圈啊很明顯大家都在這地方生活但是他購買通勤月票的人次遠遠低於可能雙北或甚至低於這個桃竹苗那我在想有個原因啊甚至低於高高評啊有一個原因就是因為我們的大眾運輸的運據不夠普及 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
21640.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
21641.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
臺中捷運綠線、臺中捷運藍線、臺中捷運橘線等。 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
21660.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
21676.364 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
像捷運南線目前已經進入綜合規劃通過了正在細部的設計然後其他的綠線的延伸等等的都是在進行中那這部分我想我們會後整理一下資料送給委員參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
21677.145 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
21677.545 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
王美惠委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
21713.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
21721.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
主席,我們請教育部請陳次陳次及經濟部請林次二位請問你們這兩位主管,你們知道我來自哪裡嗎?嘉義市嘉義市嗎?來 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
21738.274 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
21761.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
在這裏面的規定當中,我認為討論前瞻的規範及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,討論前瞻的規範及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,討論前瞻的規範及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,討論前瞻的規範及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,討論前瞻的規範及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,討論前瞻的規範及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,討論前瞻的規範及後議的強化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
21765.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
21776.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
但在這幾宗,大家都有看過管制的成果出來。尤其在這次,我們要和我們政治討論一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
21779.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
21785.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
鐵路高架,因為現在已經漸漸完形,漸漸完形的時候,大家都說你知道台積電封測,要去隔壁館,洗手嘛,是不是?是嘛齁? |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
21796.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
21817.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
大家都煩惱說加2次會變年化,但是本市在這裏是覺得說,我們加加2次要共融,才有辦法加2次會變成更好。所以本市要跟你們說,要如何共融的時候要有一個方便的交通。在本市跟你們說的就是,前瞻性也好,前瞻也好, |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
21825.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
21833.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
因為漸漸時間只剩1天而已。1天內,加2次的藍燙水庫的水源,有競爭性的驗告查1點的時候,你們要怎麼協助於當地的加2次呢?這我希望。 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
21848.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
21860.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
我們交通部及觀光署要注意這個問題。未來、剛好、大家都煩惱教育區的邊緣化。交通要方便的時候,就是要有一條清軌。清軌裡面就是教育管制。 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
21872.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
21892.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
所建設的交通,加以市政府也已經被交通部申請,所以本市希望是在交通部的,可以國間來統籌、來處理。本市在此的所謂意見,麻煩做一次回答。 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
21898.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
21920.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
好,我委員報告一下,剛才委員有講到嘉義市鐵路高架那部分,相關的經費,其實要謝謝委員的大力支持,幫我們協助,所以目前修正計畫大概4月3號已經核定了,然後而且也讓這個嘉義市的負擔,簡單講在委員的這個努力下,大概減少1億元的負擔,所以想這部分, |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
21923.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
21932.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
你若說到這,我本來是說要跟你討論,我是說私底下跟你討論。你一旦說到這,我告訴你,大家疫情都沒有完畏發生,每一個關期,你會合併的預算給他,現在企業的選,你有前瞻,為甚麼你不想頂管報告,是不是要用專案來補助每一個關期才對? |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
21951.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
21960.033 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
你預算給他的錢,平均是90億,你現在還要去負擔90億的時候,還有管治什麼人有疫情,所以我們的政府有擔當,應該是要你們處理得對,讓他們來承擔,來,另外再說。 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
21975.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
21976 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
主席主席主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
21992.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
22007.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
要做是會成功的,因為有專案、有前瞻的經費。我們說實在,對一個經濟合法的管治的時候,你一定好定好意的經費,你叫他去負擔這個,哪有你?像買房子,買房子以後我買你的,如果買你一千萬,現在去的,是建商要負責的,不是買的人要負責的,我比倫這樣你聽到沒有? |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
22022.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
22027.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
市長,現在委員會的意見,我們還在研究。請問請問部份,我們一定有相關的經費給加利市政府來做可行性的一個研究。他做出來之後,我們會怎麼樣來施助他?不是啦,研究,我告訴你,每次都說研究研究啦。 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
22047.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
22056.403 |
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包括說的教育期的施政就一樣,跟一個報告,你如果不去看,到現在已經30年了,還沒換一個地方,如果你簽一個字,簽不發生,這是安全問題,如果會廢銷,你說報告,你要協助當地的管制,我已經開了一個會了, |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
22074.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
22090.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
你這條清規不是加上他自己的問題而已,加上他官司,都要趕快啦!那時候沒中也,大家可以跟我說,他要開一個會給官司,官司長來開會啊!你說如果我說這樣,國教團隊會投降啦! |
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22094.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
22116.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
委員報告啦,可能說得不太詳細啦,就是說整個嘉義市跟嘉義縣的路網,我們一定有討論過,而且同意被查。現在再來就是,就這個路網裡頭跟嘉義的藍線的部分,它要做可行性研究,那個是所有的建設,只要是捷運的建設都要有這個定數啦。所以這部分,我們在集碼、補助嘉義市,要去做。 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
22124.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
22125.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
主管預算凍結書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
22147.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
22148.791 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
請問您跟綠領經濟有關的問題,照顧地球的理想工作是什麼? |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
22177.131 |
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22205.046 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
是我想我們就是要能夠讓環境能夠更加永續那讓環境這個經濟的發展跟環境的永續能夠均衡的在一起達到這個共存共榮雙贏的機會那可不可以講一些更具體的工作項目呢我想像我們現在這個推動這個綠能或者是永續的一個這個循環的一個經濟我想都是在這個我剛剛所講的永續發展的一個很重要的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
22219.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
在你們這次的前瞻這是第4期嘛規劃中有哪些是符合這個照顧地球的理想工作?像我們現在在水環境裡面有一個水環境我們就希望說透過水環境能夠來將這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
22221.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
22221.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
22238.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
22238.731 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
李慧琼議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
22259.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
22261.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
19個民間團體發起聯署,希望能推動修護自然的生態綠領就業。 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
22281.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
22293.272 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
不知道次長有沒有看到這個新聞昨天勞動節的時候有19個生態勞工原住民地方創生團體共同開的記者會希望政府拿出行動有看到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
22296.333 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
22324.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
謝謝我有稍微知道這樣的一個發展議題那沒關係喔那他們希望政府做的是跨部會來擴大投資以修護自然環境為目標的綠色經濟政策那也推動綠色基礎設施以調和灰色就是我們過去的硬體基礎設施為主喔舉例來講喔原本如果一條步道那有政府預算的資本額可能是一千萬那一千萬只能做兩公里 |
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22324.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
22349.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
同樣經費如果換成僱用人力一年其實可以僱10多個勞工未來我們需要的就是這樣的經費來維護步道的話同樣經費可以全年暢通所以我想就是經濟部好像還沒有跟上我們準總統他公開說要支持綠領人才的培育淨齡政見 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
22351.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
22351.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
律領經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
22371.255 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
22391.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
是,我想我剛剛有提到說我們追求環境永續的部分在經濟部裡面有一個很重要我們的低碳淨零這樣一個人才的培育的計畫那這個部分是在我們現在的強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算裡面我們有來執行這樣一個人才的培育的計畫是低碳化跟智慧化的人才的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
22392.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
22395.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
好,我們願意,我們會聆聽各界的聲音來做更好的處理。好,那一個月還是兩個月可以給我們一個報告? |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
22420.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
22421.363 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
文化部代表? |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
22439.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
22441.176 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
文化部先走,那我改請教育部次長,因為教育部永遠都有問題,沒問完。 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
22453.149 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
22479.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
市長您負責高教嗎?那一早上是潘部長在所以我就問他偏鄉的問題那您知不知道我們最近那個是我們交大那邊有客家的那個園區民眾捐來的土地結果因為我們的他們的產學合作計畫居然要佔了其中的一塊地這個事情有上新聞您有沒有看到?我有看到那這件事情您的看法是什麼呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
22480.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
22503.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
這個我們其實還要再充分了解一下,因為它現在還在規劃階段。對,那因為蠻多的民間,不管是我們客家界還有我們那個交大的教師們已經連署,那連署的速度成長得非常快,好像已經到三、四千人了。因為它當時捐遞的人是為了要做客家相關的一個社群, |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
22503.635 |
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22515.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
但是現在卻因為產權合作那要讓財團圈一塊地蓋很大的大樓那我想這個部分就是說會不會而且簽約的時間聽起來是蠻長的次長知道簽約時間會是多長嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
22520.934 |
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22546.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
目前還在校內,因為他們還在討論,所以基本上也還沒有案子到我們這邊來。對,那可不可以請次長了解一下,我們如何能夠不要讓民間擔憂就是財團會不會變相,就是說從大學這邊圈地,然後失去了原本不管是教育或者這個是客家文化相關的一個原本的就是公共的土地跟公共的一個利益好嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
22546.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
22550.324 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
李博弈委員、李博弈委員、李博弈委員、李博弈委員不在,請謝一鋒委員、謝一鋒委員、謝一鋒委員、謝一鋒委員不在,接著我們請張雅玲委員進行。 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
22585.526 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
22607.211 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
有需要什麼那個醫事人他需要什麼幫他協助一下好不好好謝謝主席那我們有請那個次長、交通部次長有請陳次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
22619.053 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
22627.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
市長好,我想跟您討論一件事情,我們都認同安全座椅是保護兒童安全的最後一道防線,這一點您認同嗎?認同。但是我卻在這個解凍案裡面,我再針對於提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
22634.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
22657.782 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
計程車裝設幼童安全座椅這件事情看到我們交通部的回應是說因為這並不是固定組織裝置可以自由拆卸跟年齡層的需求規格也都不同聽起來就是說有點複雜有點麻煩我們還是回到市場機制來處理那這一點的話我自己會覺得說這個可能我們需要再來做更多的積極的措施原因是在於 |
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22659.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
22688.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
我沒有想下一頁好下一頁那就是說我看了一下我們的一個報告就是說我們現在每一年從106年到現在111年除了疫情那一年我們平均每久一台計程車就有一台有死傷雖然裡面可能不是在送小孩但是這代表說如果媽媽爸爸媽媽載著小孩坐計程車的時候很有九分之一的每久的台車他就有可能會中這個死傷的這個問題所以如果我們講安全座椅是它座位道防線的話我們的安全座椅還 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
22690.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
22707.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
進程車應該要多裝更多的安全座椅才對對吧做這個小汽車啦使用安全座椅這應該是交通部一貫的一個對但是我們現在進程車上面其實是並沒有提供的吧不好意思下一頁 |
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22709.757 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
22731.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
因為現在目前我看到就只有480個這個安全計程車上面有這個服務那但是我也從網路上面看到其實有父母親有這樣子的需求但是他叫了7、8台車他只有成功過一次所以基本上他其實是非常難叫到那我們剛剛有講他有出這麼高的一個死傷率那我們等於是說如果我們不解決這個問題我們可能就會讓有 |
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22733.197 |
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22733.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
主席主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
22751.712 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
22763.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
計分計算或是說我們可不可以有一些宣導性的措施跟父母親說我們一定要去要求計程車讓計程車提供安全座椅是不是可以一起來做這些更積極的措施我們可不可以研議呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
22765.481 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
22765.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
請教育部留持。 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
22790.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
22808.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
市長好,就是說最近的這個震盪的這個很震盪的一個消息就是全台的第一間臺文系也就是真理大學臺文系要停招了那這個停招其實對我們臺灣的一個母語振興的教育來說復興來說都是一個很大的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
22808.727 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
22830.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
因為我們現在這幾年上次也其實有諮詢過文化部啦其實我們需要大量的這些台語的人才去做一些戲劇啊創作等等的而是我們現在這個戲所就直接停招了那其實非常可惜那我不太確定說接下來這個真理大學的台灣系好像是要併入這個人文及資訊學系那但是對我們台灣的人才該怎麼辦這個部分我們的規劃是什麼 |
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22831.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
22844.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
跟委員報告,他這個系因為他現在才剛報上來,所以他現在還在審查階段。所以我們還是有可以討論的空間嗎?因為我們還在審查階段,所以我們還是要先審查他的程序才能夠做後續的確認。 |
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22845.131 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
22865.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
好那這部分好下一頁就是說因為其實我想這是在那個國家語言法裡面第9條第4項其實有規定中央主管機關應要獎勵我們的大專院校開設國家語言相關課程這是法規有規定的所以我希望可以積極的來協助真理大學這個部分那再來就是說下一頁不好意思 |
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22867.762 |
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22887.816 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
其實這幾年我們的人文學科不管是師興大學中文系也好其實是一直逐漸的在凋零收掉的速度非常的快而是因為大專院校畢竟不是一個營利事業單位不是說哪個狀況不佳就要把它砍掉而且我就有一個重點就是BBC或是不管這些這些很多的學者專家都在講其實人文學科非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
22888.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
22917.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
對於批判性思考、創造性思考尤其是對於現在科技的發展它都有一些更好的一個邊界的思考這樣子所以尤其在美國的人文學科比例中其實站上管理崗位的比例也是最高的,站15%所以我會認為說我們是不是高教師能夠針對人文科系陸續停操退場的這個狀況進行一個掌握然後來研議我們可以如何的來協助因為總不能讓它自己凋零,這樣可以嗎? |
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22918.812 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
22929.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
這部分是可以的嗎?可以,那我們是不是再給委員一個報告,我們先把最近的整理出來。對,那再來就是說還是延續了這個,夏業抱歉,就是夏業。 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
22930.942 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
22953.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
就是說因為我們前陣子就是有一些台語、台文的教授他們其實有反映到就是說我們現在在這個課綱裡面還是沒有用臺灣台語這件事情那我也知道說在等這個文化部的這個會議那我想要就直接就兩件事情來確認就是說在我們這個課綱的會在我們非課綱的部分早上其實有委員關心我們是不是可以從那個下葉 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
22956.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
22966.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
我們是不是可以從這些非課綱類型的母語資源網、閩南語競賽、閩南語字典上面直接開始來做台灣台語的更名呢?這部分是可以的嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
22967.682 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
22995.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
跟委員報告,早上已經有跟委員承諾過,就是說這部分我們會再給委員一個,那我們是不是一併給委員這個報告。所以在研議還沒有辦法確定一個時間點是嗎?我們現在是這樣,針對課綱部分,課綱的研修小組已經,他6月就會,我們6月會過課會送一個報告上。對。那這是另外的議題,就非課綱部分是不是一併做一個檢討。那麼早上有另外委員垂詢的時候,我們會就先給委員一個報告,我們是一併給委員。 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
22996.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
23020.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
好,那我再問,不好意思,我再30秒就好。就是說,在我們6月這個會議結束之後,如果有結論的話,我們是不是就可以在118課綱裡面去用臺灣臺語這個字呢?這還是要看到時候的結論而已。對,我說如果到時候的結論是這樣的話,就可以在118課綱裡面去。對,就是要看那個結論,還是要看那個結論。OK,好,謝謝你,謝謝主席。好,謝謝張雅琳委員的諮詢,請接著林月晴委員的諮詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
23033.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
23041.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
請我們的食藥署副署長王德元王副署長我們請外部食藥署副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
23046.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
23046.724 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
報告指出自行檢驗項目目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
23072.839 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
23095.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
比率持續到85%以上預計113年地方政府衛生局可以提高到93%這個計畫的母數當然規模反映的我們的檢驗量能所以想問的是這項計畫涵蓋了多少實驗室還有其中中央政府設立地方政府設立的民間業者的設立的這個檢驗單位各有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
23098.398 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
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這個計畫所涵蓋的是我們補助的是21縣市衛生局的實驗室。這個計畫有沒有包括我們的檢驗設備,還有多少比例用在設備的擴編上?其中這個計畫大約60%的經費都是用在補助各衛生局去採購最新型的檢驗儀器設備。 |
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副長知不知道,最近死案崩爆之後,因為各縣市檢驗單位的案件量大幅增加,之後站在第一線的稽查員因為工作量負擔過大而離開了。所以媒體最近有針對臺北市的離職潮做出報導。 |
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檢測與採檢回來的樣品交給檢驗員去做檢驗所以因此檢驗員的負擔一定是大幅的增加所以想問人力不足沒辦法展現量能的話這些人員流動你們這邊有去關心嗎報告委員那我們這個前瞻計畫的部分補助剛剛有提到說60%是包含了儀器設備的資本門那剩下的部分也包含了人力的補助的費用所以這個人力補助費用事實上是會調整他們的薪資嗎 |
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如果調不調新資質要看各地方衛生局他們聘的這個契約所以有沒有掌握說大概從2月今年2月起開始13風暴之後檢驗量能增加那你的檢驗員的離職率是不是有增加的狀況因為台北市爆發出這樣的狀況報告委員這個部分我們可以去了解一下 |
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因為我們目前並沒有收到很明確的有這樣的回應。 |
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那我們事實上我們中央跟地方定期都會開相關的衛生局聯席會議,那如果衛生局有任何的問題我們都可以提出來一起來協調如何解決。所以目前有啟動彼此去分擔,因為食安問題是國人很在意的,那個檢驗的那個量能嗎? |
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報告委員,事實上我們21縣市衛生局跟中央的實驗室之間,我們都有彼此的分工。那目前21縣市衛生局透過中央地方聯合分工的方式,大家都互相在負責。那其中如果說各衛生局在檢驗上有任何困難的時候,我們都請他直接送食藥署的實驗室來做協助做後端的把關,以上。好,謝謝食藥署。那接下來可以麻煩我們的政務次長,呃,李立芬次長。好,請你次。 |
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委員好,次長好。托育服務專法想問幾個問題。就是說今天想問兒童托育服務專法現在進度如何?準備好了嗎?我們兒童托育專法已經60天公告完之後,收集的意見也跟各地方政府跟民間團體也開完會議了。 |
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那現在我們就會循法規的程序經過我們法規會做審查之後就可以送到行政院因為我為什麼這樣問因為在凱凱案之後我們的院長是答應在520之前送進來的所以這樣子會不會跳票呢? |
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因為後來在這個專法有一些團體有意見另外我們也做了一些修正就是說因為托育專法跟兒犬法有點互動可是這當中有一些條文如果兒犬法還沒有完成一起送的話就會有一些條文上所以你預估到什麼時候會因為這跟孩子的是 |
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推品質跟孩子的安全性有很大關係,我們也期待降私生比,本來1比5我們希望降到1比4,所以你預計什麼時候可以送進來?跟委員報告,這1比5降到1比4它是修那個,其實在這次裡面沒有特別去修訂這個,可是我們現在本來就用鼓勵的方式,補助一個人的方式來鼓勵我們的托嬰中心, |
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這與修法沒有太直接的關係,以我們的法規會安排大概6月左右報送到市政院。 |
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不過在這邊還是要提醒不是只有私生筆還有托育人員的勞動條件那110年的8月本來就提供托育人員的鼓勵筆優化獎注然後並規劃我們112年期我們總共的托育人員應該給固定的那個 |
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就年資可以給予固定薪資3萬到3萬6可是有民眾來跟我們反映說112年台北市政府社會局提供的準工的托育服務品質的講座裡邊公文內容雖然要求業者要給我們的托育員講座金跟相關福利可是業者並沒有依照我們的公文來做執行給托育員相對應的薪資跟講座卻沒有公務機關在核銷上進行查核的時候托育員到底有沒有領到這個講座 |
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准公本來獲得社會局補助,到底有沒有給這些辛苦的人員,中央有沒有掌握呢?好,呃,報告委員,這個本來地方政府也應該要去抽查,可是如果真的有這種事實發生,已經有發生的話,是不是委員可以提供我們呃,相關的一個……是,那也麻煩齁,這個……我們可以來做抽……我們可以來做查查。因為現在中心的…… |
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委員會主席 |
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王振旭委員 |
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醫療永續發展與環境之間的關係我們知道不論是一般廢棄物或是失業廢棄物 |
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委員會主席 |
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是一個事業機關來處理這個廢棄物的部分雖然醫療機構所佔的廢棄物的比例相對是低很多相較於其他的製造業等等那可是我們也看到近三年來這個醫療廢棄物的量越來越多那再利用率相對是偏低那這一部分不知道我們的衛福部有沒有做哪一些方面的改善方案或計畫 |
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其實我們之前也有考慮到說有哪些醫療器材它是可以再使用的那這個部分我們也都會再持續跟醫療單位醫院這邊再來討論那另外其實整個在整個永續發展指標裡面其實我們在醫療這個部分要怎麼檢探那這個部分其實疑似是有在 |
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主席主席 |
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一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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主席主席 |
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市業廢棄物的這個循環跟減量這個部分,其實都有努力,剛剛委員提到市業廢棄物的在利用率達到85%,那主要就是在經濟部的部分,它從產源就開始做循環,一個產業的廢棄物可能是另外一個產業的資源,用這樣的媒合的方式把它進行,那我們家屋垃圾的這個資源循環也做得很好,那衛務部這個部分我們比較考量還是在意,因為它有一些是 |
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主席 |
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主席 |
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| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
主席主席 |
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提供給我們一些意見上的參考。我們知道4月份要電費平均要漲51%,醫院都覺得非常非常的辛苦。那事實上目前醫院的這個耗能占了所有電力是占了9成左右。那麼這麼大的這個醫院的消耗能量之下,其實我們也知道 |
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經濟部有一些節能績效的保證措施,可是補助的部分,過去這5年來一般的單位有補助到397案,醫院去申請了才49案。 |
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我們看最後一張的資料我們如何能夠讓這樣的補助方案也讓醫院有機會可以夥同或者是麻煩經濟部這邊來提供相對的這個節能績效的這個促進方案我不知道目前在執行上有沒有哪一些的困難或困擾 |
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謝謝委員,我想經濟部來透過我們剛剛講的那個節能、績效保證,也就是傳統所講的ESCO的部分來協助我們醫療院所,我們相當願意。那我們會提供書面的資料給委員辦公室這邊,那也會主動的,事實上我們現在已經成立輔導團,要來主動的跟我們的醫療院所來協助他們做這個相關節能的推動工作。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
有請陳次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
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23864.26 |
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市長辛苦了首先請教就是說捷運黃線的部分這個對於整個高雄的大眾運輸系統相當重要但是針對前鎮漁港的部分我們現在努力的希望打造像台灣的一個豐洲漁市的這樣一個目標那現在農業部也全力在推動當中那捷運現在也做了一個黃線延伸到前鎮漁港的規劃那預定在今年會 |
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完成這個可行性的評估,那次長這個進度目前狀況是怎麼樣?預定是7月完成嗎?我們是補助高雄市在做相關的一個預算規劃跟研究,那目前我們還沒收到,收到他們相關的一個。他們現在在4月應該第一版的期末報告已經出來了,那我希望次長跟江副統我去了解一下好不好? |
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因為這整個計畫沒有錯是像委員講的大概有兩個方案那詳細的情形我們再去了解一下有兩個方案在進行那我希望就是7月份出來之後我也希望交通部繼續來支持然後讓整個前鎮漁港包括整個捷運系統的部分能夠整個建置完成就是做到了他現在只到前鎮高中沒有延伸到前鎮漁港其實非常的可惜那我希望把這個整個效益整個做大出來特別是全世界知名的 |
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主席主席主席主席 |
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再來是齊京的第二過港隧道齊京原來它是個半島是因為後來開港高雄港開港的關係變成了是一個離島但是它其中沒有適用離島建設條例的一些狀況那當然第一過港隧道的年限當然有做了一些延長但是第二過港隧道也要及早做一些準備不然將來恐怕對於齊京的鄉親來說有可能就會造成這個交通上非常大的一個問題那現在也在一樣一樣在做可行性的評估 |
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主席主席 |
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那這一部分我們會來跟高雄市政府來瞭解相關的進度,掌握相關的進度,那一有相關的結果以後來跟委員做說明。初步做出來是有擴建路跟漁港路兩個方案,當然選擇性上面,那我也希望交通部一些專業一線一樣進去來協助高雄市政府。 |
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是不是這個會後一個禮拜先把你們所了解的最新的狀況也再彙整給我這邊好不好?請次長跟交通部同仁也再彙整給我。那我也希望6月7月完成了這個可行性之後,我也希望能夠繼續支持這些建設。不要讓當時旗津的鄉親因為開港,因為高雄港的整個而形成離島這樣的效果的時候,那如果因為這個第二過往隧道,將來如果有一些狀況的做法造成他們交通上非常大的不便利。 |
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是我想委員關切的這些事項我們都會持續來關注它是好謝謝那再來我也請教一下之前疫情前的時候航班航點其實受到一些影響疫情那現在都陸續在恢復當中但是其實高雄的恢復速度我認為沒有桃園來得這麼的快特別是航班航點有些部分的恢復甚至於班機都變得比較小的一些班機那因為高雄機場也是南部最重要的一個國際機場它影響到 |
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議員議員 |
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百分之百這樣的一個目標,可以嗎?市長。我們盡可能來朝這個方向來努力,那這個我們會督請民航局盡速來協調航空公司。我們常常講如果南北的落差存在著的話,那唯一的方式就是不斷的去協助讓中南部有更好的一些發展。 |
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如果沒有去推動的話大概就永遠是這樣所以我知道現在大家搶得很兇啦桃園也在搶那甚至於離島也在爭取但是我希望這一塊會影響到因為看到有太多南部的鄉親都必須要到桃園來做這個搭機才能夠不管是商務或觀光出去我認為這個部分長遠來說的這個南北上的失衡狀況會有點嚴重我希望這一塊次長跟整個交部同僚要大力來協助 |
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高雄機場主任樂觀年齡回復疫情前水準,希望市長及交通部民航局同仁大力協助。 |
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臺鐵在高雄機場移到潮州,現在要做一些開發,涉及到包括交通部甚至內政部的部分,現在進度應該是在內政部的一個獨委會專案小組在審查。 |
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內政部全力的加速來進行以外我也希望交通部來推動加速推動預定是在2026年的時候應該來啟動相關的招商工作今年已經2024年了那這個地方當年的機場的時候其實大家也很期待它儘速的開發不管是公園、停車場、商場的部分能夠帶動地方的一個發展我希望交通部跟內政部加速這個開發期程2026來完成可以嗎 |
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邱政軍委員、邱靖遠委員、邱靖遠委員、邱靖遠委員不在,請接受委員質詢。 |
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有請書發部理事長。理事長好。今天要跟你討論 |
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這個數位落差的問題那前瞻的這個預算裡面有邊這個偏鄉數位落差那明年就是要到期那目前我看的執行率只有11.8%所以要跟你探討一個數位落差那請問市長數位落差最嚴重的在哪一個區塊 |
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回答委員,您剛講的預算是我們大概針對雲市及是補助數位轉型,特別是中小企業的部分。OK,你還沒有掌握出問題。數位落差在我們的社會當中,數位落差可能有區域性的落差、世代間的落差、產業間的落差。那最嚴重的在哪裡? |
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我想數位落差最嚴重的在於本身對於數位技巧或者是數位知識的學習,通常是會在長輩或者是社經地位比較落後一點的地區。那數位落差會造成社會什麼影響? |
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社會落差當然會造成不管是使用或者資訊傳遞上都會有落差。社會落差的問題顯然比你想像它會造成對立的社會。整個的社會像很多的偏鄉裡面我們看到今天早上我才在教育部當中在質詢 |
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我們偏鄉只有注重這個偏鄉兒童教育但是偏鄉呢像兒童他家裡大部分都是高齡者在照顧阿公阿嬤在照顧但是我們對他們那一塊都完全不重視所以導致呢會怎麼樣小孩子所學的東西大人完全不理解所以呢他們就不溝通不溝通這造成世代的疏離相關牽扯的問題非常的多 |
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那這個我都在推動壯世代這個書發不知道吧那壯世代是當然現在整的是指臺灣進入高齡化社會不要再有老人引髮族的世代這個世代是臺灣的希望但是對於這一塊我也看到我們在數位上數位部非常的輕忽非常的輕忽這個如果是在這一點我們來看一下輕忽到什麼程度剛才講 |
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這一個是臺灣網路諮詢中心的數據在我們的世代之間那個最高的就是8到9歲他的上網到98那70歲的只有到40%相差到5成 |
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這數據沒問題吧?然後在區域當中的這個最非偏鄉的地方然後跟偏鄉大概相差兩成我們現在整個的重點是在做偏鄉在做區域是嗎? |
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對於世代之間我們可以看到整個的數位落差已改善偏鄉現在所有的邊內的預算跟著力的重點一直在追求這個問題然後對於這剛才看到五成的東西 |
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請問世衛部做了什麼事情?目前我們在國科會的支持跟領導之下,我們有參與所謂的銀髮科技的部分,我們也會高齡科技的部分,所以我們也會在高齡科技這一塊去強調所謂的help helper,就是協助照顧者還有被照顧者。據我所知,包括這個業界當中,就是做得非常少。 |
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目前執行狀況11.8% |
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那這個錢既然用不出去,為什麼用不出去?那可不可以,剛才那個問題那麼嚴重,那邊變了多少預算?是不是你們想要做事情,是不是落差非常的大?可不可以以這個經費,可以來加強到年齡的數位落差? |
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跟委員報告這個部分是前瞻預算那前瞻預算當初是有法源規定我們就是拿來當初法源規定就是用在偏鄉用區域對但是區域裡面現在我覺得我們腦筋都很硬沒關係現在為什麼你的錢花不出去 |
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因為剛才他偏鄉落差只有兩成嘛,那個可能你們探討需求沒有那麼大,而且按照我們的這個通訊的電信業者當中,你跟他疊藏家屋咧,他們裡面有這個基金也是在做偏鄉。 |
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我們的區域是以人來計算的 |
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主席主席主席 |
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這一點可不可以? |
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跟委員報告前瞻基礎要截止,我實在沒有辦法再跟你承諾,但我們會承諾去,一定會從數位部的預算裡面去納入年齡數位落差的改善。對,然後也在我們從區域的數位改善來重視使用者,特別是高齡者的數位。這個沒有問題。謝謝。謝謝吳淳騰委員的諮詢。緊接著我們請王一鳴委員,王一鳴委員,王一鳴委員不在。緊接著請徐欣穎委員諮詢。 |
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本席 |
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武陽高架橋到楊梅,全國人民都很清楚,在車上聊天,從北往南,碰到塞車他們就知道湖口到了。武陽高架從楊梅下來之後,一路一直塞到 |
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本席就本席了解五陽高架從陽梅到頭份現在的進度怎麼樣? |
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委員報告,就是羊頭高架,目前行政院已經核定了,所以現在正在做細部設計。已經進行細部設計,預計什麼時候動工?動工時間我可能還要再瞭解一下。這第一個問題。 |
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那再來就是本席在第8屆擔任立委的時候,我不知道您還記得嗎?您那時候是高工局長。應該是吧。那時候我們全台灣有一個交流道,已經塞車塞了20幾年,到現在沒有改善,您知道是哪一個嗎? |
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還是我們全臺灣交流道都塞得很嚴重,但是塞了20幾年到現在沒有改善?我跟委員報告,從我當時當高工局局長之後,後續的趙局長,其實我們在很多的路段也好,或者是在高速公路…沒有沒有,我現在先請教你,你知不知道哪一個交流道塞了20幾年到今天都完全沒有改善? |
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主北交流道的改善案是您主持的。 |
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委員會主席 |
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竹北交流道本身就很有問題,早就該改善了。 |
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但是一直沒有,所以本席希望這個部分交通部可以重視。我們除了羊頭高架路段,那只是紓解車潮,可是交流道的改善,它本身沒有任何的緩衝的路段。這個部分之前您還主持了很多次會議,那您還記得為什麼後來會胎死腹中? |
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我想委員提到的那一部分我可以請高工局他們去研議看看,然後後續再向委員做一個報告。 |
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全國唯一東西向快速道路沒有連接我們的一高或二高的,您知道在哪個縣市嗎?你現在講得出來東西向快速道路沒有連接任何的中山高或北二高應該是一條是台68、一條是台72 |
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新竹縣市的,這個現在有在規劃嗎? |
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有正視到這樣的一個問題。這個不是二十幾年,這個是三、四十年。委員這就是有它的困難度,所以我們有去想到這個到底是跟剛才講的這個高速公路來,就是羊頭看有沒有。沒有沒有沒有,那個跟羊頭沒有關。它會在經過那裡。 |
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有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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對,那個是,我剛才就講到說,它有兩個解決的方式,一個是跟台六十一來相結合,我們台六十一在那裡頭會有些相關的一個改善的方案,看是台六十一跟台六十八有沒有可能,或者是台六十八跟國益有沒有可能,那國益就是跟那個洋流公路來建起。 |
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教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案 |
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好,謝謝徐欣英委員的質詢。緊接我們請蘇清雄委員、蘇清雄委員、蘇清雄委員、蘇清雄委員不在。緊接我們請莊教兵委員質詢。 |
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主席、在場的委員、先進列席的政務司長、市長、官員、會長、公路夥伴、媒體記者、女士先生。有請我們交通部陳次長、文化部的李次長和資通安全署的鄭副署長。鄭副署長 |
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兩位次長好副次長好我想今天是趕快借用這個機會兩個部門在我剛前天針對國土辦問了一個問題基本上是跟港務公司所宣稱的那麼這個新聞請次長陳次長看一下因為目前傳出美國他們年初那個國會發現他們的 |
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主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
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都用的是內部操控的傳輸內網,沒有治安管的問題,而且為求慎重起見,你們的新聞稿,這個新聞稿是港務公司發的,曾經請專業人員檢核,還跟數路發,請數位部再檢核,確定沒有這個問題,這個可能你不知道,但我讓你知道,這是港務公司發的新聞稿。 |
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港務公司僅提供廠商的自我檢核資料備查,速發部並沒有協助檢核。 |
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那我想你們兩個一定聽了一頭霧水齁我現在給大家看一個圖齁來請看這個圖齁目前呢 |
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臺灣也存在在臺北港、基隆港跟高雄港都有橋式起重機,然後這裡面的晶片它透過傳輸可以經過衛星的方式讓對岸取得這些所在的位置,除了操作的機能之外它可以傳輸設備,基本上是這樣子。那這個事情是怎麼發現的呢?再往下一頁。 |
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這個就是我們所謂的固定支架的架空機,其實過去用中國的不是多數,日本、荷蘭,可是這幾年大量的增加。那另外除了橋式的起重機之外,一般移動式的起重機往下看,雖然目前中國的不多,可是成長的幅度是最快。 |
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理事長 |
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你跟你們部門查詢後,有沒有確定你們有幫台灣港務公司去做這三個重要港口、港部的橋式起重機的安全查核?我是不是讓我們副署長說明一下?好,請。如果有人說明一下,我們的合作部分是他們會做這個專業的這個集合的結果,集合報告拿到我們數位部,然後我們三屬再去看這個集合報告的結果,然後再給予回憶跟建議,然後接著的話就是在 |
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負責人負責人負責人負責人負責人負責人負責人負責負責負責負責負責負責負貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼貼 |
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我們國安的查核速發部怎麼協助其他相關的部門?跟委員報告這個所謂的港口不管是商港或者是貨港在我們國土辦的定義裡面它都是關鍵基礎設施那港務公司現在是所謂的關鍵基礎設施提供者是營運這個關鍵基礎設施所以對我們來說我們的規範是只要你在營運關鍵基礎設施你就會被我們列入作為資安查核可能的範圍但 |
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我們確實沒有去處理到這個貨櫃的,剛剛講的起重機的這一塊。但根據我們現在危害國家自通安全產品原則的這個部分,這個未來我們也期待把它加入我們要新修的自動安全法裡面。未來會,但是現階段沒有。現階段我們有,現階段我們用原則就已經在處理。我知道,來陳市長,就本案來講,你們要不要回去查一下港務公司,到底有沒有請人家蘇發部來幫他檢查,還是他自己做了檢查,把報告交給蘇發部就算數了? |
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25313.761 |
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25336.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
這部分我們來瞭解一下,然後把相關瞭解的情形來跟委員做說明。好,我想這個問題很嚴重,所以我才趁我們這次各部會都在場,前面兩個部會趕快合作。這個問題的發現也不是你們查出來的,是人家勞動部、治安署、安慰中心去查危險機遇才發現的。那請部會可不可以承諾,什麼時候可以給我一個確定的報告。 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
25338.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
25339.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
主席響鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
25379.679 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
25380.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
國土署國科會能源署觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
25408.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
25409.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
新達港遠洋博區蘇郡經費到位了沒有? |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
25422.781 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
25445.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
前瞻的經費我們已經到位,那目前跟高雄市海洋局在做如何執行,在做進一步的協調。什麼時候可以完成輸進?就在我們前瞻的有效期間到明年。我希望能夠確實按照你們計畫,完成這個輸進的任務。是,我們會跟高雄市海洋局密切合作。負4還是負3還是負2?我們會根據經費的他們的需求。經費多少? |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
25446.182 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
25472.216 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我們經費目前前瞻三期還有2億,還有2億多嗎?我前幾天剛開完會,我們要挖到富士,富士、遠洋博區,那個未來這個遊歷港碼頭才能順利建置,我說你那個遊歷港碼頭蓋不起來,這個我們會跟海洋局這邊密切來合作,這一定要確實去執行,是,那離岸風電目前一個興達海基,辦理南部的這個領頭羊,你覺得興達海基未來他的前景如何? |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
25473.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
25499.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
我們後續的離岸風電的進程還是會按照我們規劃期程走所以國內的需求還是每年會有1.5G這樣的量那至於國內的製造業能不能順利拿到單我想我們這個你要協助我們的需求還是會確定國營事業配合政策去投入那麼多預算的能力結果後來沒有任何訂單那北部獨大應該南北均衡嘛這個問題已經點出好幾次了我希望你要想出對策去解決好那下一位請國科會國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
25505.298 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
25517.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
副主委,南科的管理局目前所轄的範圍非常大,對不對?是。這個包括新成立的橋頭,包括未來的嘉義,還有屏東,對不對? |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
25518.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
25523.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
25538.528 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
25567.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
跟委員報告,那事實上我們之前南科有請證原額也有合訂的16位,那這一次我們的原額評鑑我昨天才開過會,那我們也是外部的委員也都一致的這個有共識,那我們會再跟人總這邊積極的請證人力。因為沒有人不能去做好服務,不能做好相關的規劃,你有那麼多的園區要去服務,要去規劃,要去執行,人力不足這個是很大的問題。 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
25567.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
25567.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
國土署 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
25583.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
25597.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
這個落實社會住宅那個社會住宅各縣市我們有中央建也有地方政府建這個配合新建這個社宅前三名的縣市有哪些不管是一般縣市或者五六都 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
25599.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
25625.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
報告委員,那目前來講,那蓋的比較多的,目前包括台北市,台北市,我們這邊的,這個數據可能我們還要查一下,前三名,前三名大概台北市,桃園市跟新北市吧,目前應該是這樣,集中在北部,對,北部,倒數,倒數這個前三名, |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
25626.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
25627.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
市長你520會在嗎?不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
25658.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
25680.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
市出空屋也是一個方法,現在空屋率那麼高,那市出空屋也是一個做法?其實就是我們用包租貸款設宅,其實現階段已經大概有7萬8千戶左右。那等於它誘因只是說它免稅的提高而已嗎?對不對?你要有更多的誘因讓它市出,願意市出,或者你光是蓋這個社會住宅,有些縣市不配合或有配合都不好? |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
25681.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
25698.427 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
所以有些建設真的做得不錯,但是你要有政策去導引讓現有空屋能夠釋出,這樣顯示也是資源浪費。這個速度其實還不錯啦,現在我們一個禮拜大概有600戶民間的房子轉入社會住宅。就是因為這個租金,就是這個租稅的問題嗎?租稅的誘因,就可以讓他們出來嗎?如果變成兩萬塊呢?其實我覺得現在還算順利啦。 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
25710.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
25714.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
其實台灣的空屋其實主要在偏鄉,所以都市內的空屋沒有想像中那麼多。 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
25727.062 |
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25744.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
特別是這個特別是都市裡面還是有一些空屋存在就是六都還是有一些當然一定要有不能怎麼搬家一定要有空屋所以你要有一定的足夠的租稅的誘因讓他願意使用這部分如果有需要我們當然會跟財政部再多討論好謝謝那最後請觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
25755.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
25771.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
有鋼扇之眼要爭取的那現在就是說鋼扇之眼一段時間你要增加新的觀光元素所以我請市政府提報相關的強化計畫增加鋼扇之眼的觀光元素我希望觀光局能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
25772.156 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
25772.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
水環境改善尤其據點,情人碼頭算不算? |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
25792.591 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
25793.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
主管預算凍結書 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
25823.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
25827.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
林淑芬委員、葉正哲委員、蔡偉昌委員、蔡徐昌委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
25842.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
25854.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
張家俊委員、張家俊委員、張家瑩委員不在。許智傑委員、許智傑委員、許智瑩委員不在。邱昀文委員、邱昀文委員、邱昀文委員、邱昀文委員不在。魯明哲委員、魯明哲委員、魯明哲委員不在。賴慧雲委員、賴慧雲委員、賴慧雲委員不在。 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
25856.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
25873.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
好,今日登記發言委軍議,詢答完畢。針對中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算解凍案,包括原住民委員會主管1案、內政部主管2案、教育部主管1案、經濟部主管6案、交通部主管4案,行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
25875.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
25886.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
農業部主管一案。衛生福利部主管三案。環境部主管一案。速發部主管三案。國科會主管二案。請問各位委員有無異議。 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
25887.597 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
25911.851 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
無異議通過審查完略。准予動之提報。願會。針對中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算解凍案,包括內政部主管一案及交通部主管二案。請問各位委員有無異議。通過審查完略。欸欸欸!稍等欸稍等。審查完略。准予動之提報。願會。 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
25916.465 |
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25931.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
好。本次會議作如下決議。說明及詢問到完畢。委員質詢及為其答覆或補充資訊,請相關部會於一週內以書面答覆。委員另要求期限者從其所定。 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
25931.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
25954.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
委員袁寬恆、謝一鳳、葉元之、蘇金權、盧憲一、陳超銘、李柏毅、林黛樺、劉建國、邱議員、張家俊、邱振鈞、廖偉翔、王育敏、牛許廷、吳清明、蔡宜瑜、賴慧媛所提書面質詢委員王振旭所提書面補充資料均列入紀錄刊登公報並請相關部會以書面答覆。 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
25956.337 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
25983.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
是,針對中央政府前瞻建設計畫第4期特別預算解凍案50案及中央政府疫後強化經濟與社會韌性及全民共享經濟成果特別預算解凍案施案均處理完均,准予動之提報院會。請問各位委員針對以上決議有無異議。好,通過。令本次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
25985.842 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
26000.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
授權由本席核定後確定,請問各位委員有無異議?無異議通過。本次會議議程已進行完畢,堂有不在場委員補題書面質詢,一併列入紀錄,刊登公報,並請議事人員協助處理。 |