IVOD_ID |
158692 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158692 |
日期 |
2025-01-06 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-21 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
21 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
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內政委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-01-06T10:32:02+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-01-06T10:38:49+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:06:47 |
支援功能[0] |
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video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/de7793bdba635484edc0811824f17dec7d5a9e1565835ab6ed959dcea458019c40d0ad8028109d995ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
委員發言時間 |
10:32:02 - 10:38:49 |
會議時間 |
2025-01-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查委員牛煦庭等17人擬具「國家公園法部分條文修正草案」案。二、審查委員徐富癸等18人擬具「國家公園法部分條文修正草案」案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「國家公園法第十三條及第二十四條條文修正草案」案。) |
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好 現在下一位我們請我們張宏祿召委執行 謝謝部長 你先休息啦那個 次長委員好其實啊 國家公園有很多的人來台灣觀光旅遊其實都會選擇國家公園 |
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那我個人覺得國家公園我從之前我就有說有一些可以改進之處我先說一個很簡單的陽明山國家公園應該是去的人最多的地方吧目前來講陽明山國家公園人數因為他是都會型的比較容易到除了都會型之外交通便捷什麼的但 |
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陽明山國家公園的路口 兩排 攤販難道這麼多年了無法解決嗎你可以請他們回答 |
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報告委員在那個就是委員所提到的部分是陽明公園的一個範圍那這個部分我們跟台北市政府在很多年前就一直在協商有關移交的問題但是因為這個部分它涉及到有一些土地已經徵收沒有處理的這個部分我們跟台北市政府在就 |
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徵收詳細的一些內容去做一個釐清在後續的移交接管的部分的過程當中哪些部分需要再做一個補辦徵收的這樣的一個處理後續會陸陸續續來進行我問這個問題不是今天才問我們不是要讓攤販沒有生意做你應該把它整理得漂漂亮亮的 |
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不管你是用OT或是用什麼的方式把它整理得漂漂亮亮再把攤位你租回給現在的人也是可以解決我們不是讓他沒有生意只是你看這一個是全台華灣的國家公園央行民生意都最多這是一個門面講那些理由我說真的齁我都聽不下去啊 |
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我也不是沒有在行政機關待過啦你要成功只有一個方法啦要找藉口有一百個藉口啦對不對這一個我認為是一個非常 |
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非常簡單可以去處理的問題只要你用心吳報次長你怎麼想跟委員報告我們目前會啟動羊皮山國家公園的通盤檢討然後會跟市政府一起來討論怎麼樣解決他的土地的問題土地權屬的問題還有相關管理的問題我們希望透過通盤檢討一次性的把這個問題我們看可以怎麼樣來解決包括相關的管理權限還有包括空間的劃設等等那我們今年就去啟動相關的檢討我們今年就會去處理 |
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那要多久時間可以處理 |
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跟委員報告因為這個範圍是在我們的那個就是管一的範圍內那我們涉及的相關的一些就建物的部分我們在今年規劃啟動我們的管一檢討的作業問你多久可以處理我們預計兩個一一四到一一五年會啟動這個這個裡面的一個檢討作業作為我們通盤檢討的前置的規劃你沒有回答我的問題 |
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114到115啊我們在一年內會完成這樣子的檢討把它處理起來不是 你是完成檢討而已啊對啊 我們這個檢討就是我們會把所有行政作業的完成我現在問的是多久可以解決這個問題啊你跟我講行政程序報告委員我來回答一下 |
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有關於陽明公園前面的亂象的部分確實全屬有中央跟地方那我們在短期之內我們就先跟台北市政府來聯繫一下如何處理攤販的這個問題我們不是說要把攤販都趕走而是怎麼樣讓他有秩序 我不是說要把他趕走 |
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不要影響到門面不要人家會覺得要到陽明山國家公園 到陽明公園這麼亂我們來檢討一下那剛剛他們所說就是說整體的一起來規劃的時候給我們一點時間我們盡量不要再那麼長的時間 要一年我盡量在短一點的時間內完成但是讓我們再估算一下 再跟委員來回報 |
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好部長您請坐我必須要跟你們溝通一個觀念不是什麼事情我要怎樣怎樣我當然知道你要做到100分是OK的但明明就在那邊了多久了我也不是今天才說為什麼要特別說這個 |
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門面中的門面已經那麼久了那你可以取得雙贏的東西每次就是說行政程序跟台北市政府跟什麼不去做永遠有藉口但如果真的想做就做好了我講句比較難聽一點的 |
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我今天我如果是行政院長我來跟你們說這個東西門面中的門面怎麼可以這樣我限你們多久給我處理好我看你們半夜都加班馬上就處理了吧跟委員報告我們這個月內我們就跟台北市政府來開會討論看怎麼處理那請速把那個相關的科技的規範跟運作的方式我們今天這個月內把它討論好那看能不能兩個月內我們就把它處理完 |
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好謝謝次長我覺得事情就是要這樣做啦但還有一個我們不是讓湯芬沒有生意是我們應該要把它規劃你看國外人家國外的國家公園你看日本的就好了人家也是在賣東西但是就感覺不是破破爛爛的我覺得這個是真的是盲面啦這個另外最後其實國家公園我們有蓋有很多的步道啦當然是都在國家公園裡面但 |
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有沒有一個思考跟地方政府配合一下在國家公園的步道可以延伸的部分大家可以延伸串聯我覺得這個都可以去思考啦好不好好 我們相關的步道連結我們會跟那個地方政府一起討論也會跟整個交通部的傳導步道一起來做連結好 謝謝好 謝謝我們張黃路招惹的資訊那下一位 |