| IVOD_ID |
158607 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158607 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-02T09:55:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-02T10:04:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/186d177ad48e30e5f7212e3a1f5b3937f82bf49b3fbaf4a58d75bdfb612c74e0da6c27b9980abdb35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
麥玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:11 - 10:04:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、請行政院秘書長率同所屬，就行政院所屬人員涉嫌霸凌案件處置情形專題報告並備質詢。二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於大陸委員會單位預算。四、繼續審查大陸委員會函送財團法人海峽交流基金會114年度預算書案。五、繼續審查大陸委員會函送財團法人臺港經濟文化合作策進會114年度預算書案。
備註：本次會議開會時間為上午9時至議程處理完竣） |
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想要請教一下我們要審114年度的中央預算中央政府的預算你覺得這個重不重要還是說只是過水而已 |
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當然是重要的當然是重要的嘛但是重要為什麼剛才我們也有委員問在12月18號剛才你有自己有說你就有說會議還沒有開始會議還沒有開始你可以撈跑嗎你可以離開嗎 |
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報告委員因為那個表定的時間會議到兩點所以他已經超過兩點了超過兩點但是我們總召也有我們的召委也有打電話給你請你回來當他在這裡的時候他可以公佈我們的會議延期啊延長啊對不對但是他回來的時候也看到你在這裡啊我們其他的人也有人在啊 |
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所以說他是還沒有開始他可以進來說他開始啊所以但是你接到一通電話你說辦公室的辦公室的人就可以指令說你要回去開會嗎但是你今天你要來這邊開會是你主要的開會啊不是說你要隨時都可以離開說要去別的地方開會啊不是嗎因為按照這個這個沒有因為也沒有理由啊事實上你就是要留下來這邊開會的啊 |
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所以一通電話就可以說叫你回去開會你就回去了嗎不是到兩點的時候會議還沒開始超過兩點的時候超過但是你還是留下來表示你有負責任所以要留下來繼續開會嘛但是你看到我們召委又來這邊了對不對 |
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但是後來他打電話給你 你也說要回來後來我們也確實也回來開會回來開會 我還在我們的協商那邊我們要協商 還沒有協商完我有邀請說 我們所有的內政委員趕快回來開會 我們內政要開會了但是我們民進黨的委員沒有回來國民黨的委員就回來 連我也回來開會 |
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所以在你落跑之前 還有一些我們還堅守崗位的行政員員很負責任也是留下來後來呢 也接到一通電話 他們也陸陸續續的也離開了是你指示嗎 還是說他們自動自己就想回去就回去 |
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沒有指示也沒有指示但是他們自動回去的嘛如果是這樣子的話我們是可以隨時就是要來開會就要回去就回去所以沒有任何的規定就對了如果你覺得是這樣子的話我們今天 |
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還要省預算嗎還是乾脆就是不用省了所以照我們想要你們要想要編怎麼編就怎麼編我們就是反正就是編就是你們想要的嘛過就會過不過也不會說不會過啊因為說不會過的話你們就說自愛難行啊一堆嘛所以再來問你的就是說我們的 |
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五軌搬運的小金庫就是你們的第二億倍金變成就是單位的小金庫想要拿就拿在你知道113年我們第二億倍金編列了多少錢嗎第二億倍金沒有編列在行政院本部的預算裡面是不是是嗎 |
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確定喔確定不是我們行政院的你可以查一下那個是編在我們院本部的預算嗎第二億費金是在我們院的 |
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不是編在我們院本部的預算所以沒有在今天的不是在今天但是這個也是我們政府的預算之一你說不是但是我們編列多少你是不知道這個是編列了74億 |
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第二億北京你說不是我們行政院的不是院本部的但是這個也是我們的總預算裡面的第二億北京所以呢我們是編列了71億你知道嗎我們是在113年所以不是我們行政院這邊的管轄區所以說你不知道所以在我們 |
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113年我們編列了74億但是我們用的一倍金只有20億 |
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還有就是大概20億到24億所以還剩下多少還剩下了50多億113年還剩下50多億但是今年我們第二的預備金的金額我們114年再編列了80億編列了80億多出了去年的6億 |
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這個原因你應該也不知道是不是對你應該也不知道因為這個是整個總預算裡面你都不會注意到這些你覺得這個是是說多出來的話就是浮邊就是要應用到但是我們看到的是這樣子你說的不知道也不知道這個但是呢要跟你報告一下 |
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363.661 |
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在我們112年交通部他們中央七鄉署辦理七股七巷雷達捐魚的更新計畫他們編了兩千兩百多萬但是呢又在112年又申請了三千多萬就是用二倍金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
391.5 |
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396.185 |
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還有連續兩年啊 他們已經有編列那麼多錢了 連續兩年還在申請農業部呢 他們已經在編列 112年也編列了5億但是呢 又連續 112年 13年 再來申請14億 |
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410.9 |
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417.361 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
還有我們的農糧署每年編列了10億但是呢就連續同樣的東西再來申請3億這些你都不知道是嗎所以說這個一倍金你覺得不是你的管啥區也你不知道這個一倍金是不是今年就80億就全部簡列了 |
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439.258 |
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441.961 |
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因為越來越多嘛沒有用到去年就剩下50億今年還要編80億所以說我們的政府的錢都可以隨便服編都可以編一編我編嘛你們要剪也是剪我的一些皮馬而已 |
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因為一倍金是說因應於氣候變遷或者是救災防護它的需要所以通常會稍微寬裂一點事實上沒用到也繳回郵庫但是我們這三四個單位三四個單位他們來去申請這樣的一倍金如果他們每年編列不足他可以再編列但是他們編列那麼多錢了還同樣的 |
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487.182 |
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的項目再來應用這個益備金所以我覺得這個部分我們是行政院是管理各部會所以我們要了解說各個部會來去編列預算該不該編有益備來去用但是沒有用到那麼多還剩下50多億我們今年還在去 |
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513.15 |
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519.752 |
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編了80億其他的不會再來去申請自己有編列那麼多預算了還是所以這邊這小金庫比就業暗地基金還好用啊是不是這樣子的意思所以說我們的秘書長今天來審我們的預算覺得很多應該不用審了因為有很多你都不知道以上謝謝 |
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543.311 |
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好 請王美惠委員 |
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麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:11+08:00 |
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1 |
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2025-01-02T09:55:12.128500+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，有請秘書長。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2025-01-02T09:55:12.128500+08:00 |
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1 |
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請秘書長。 |
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0 |
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龔秘書長明鑫 |
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2025-01-02T09:55:13.257000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:14.385500+08:00 |
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麥委員早安。 |
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0 |
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麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:14.385500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:15.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
秘書長早。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:15.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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2025-01-02T09:55:16.234000+08:00 |
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想要請教一下，我們要審114年度中央政府的預算，你覺得這個重不重要，還是說只是過水而已？ |
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1 |
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龔秘書長明鑫 |
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2025-01-02T09:55:32.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:33.203000+08:00 |
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當然是重要的。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:33.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:34.704000+08:00 |
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當然是重要的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:35.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:51.738000+08:00 |
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但是為什麼剛才有委員問，剛才你有自己就有說，在12月18號會議還沒有開始，你可以落跑嗎？ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:51.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:52.018000+08:00 |
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你可以離開嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:53.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:55.828000+08:00 |
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報告委員，因為表定的會議時間到兩點，已經超過兩點了…… |
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0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:56.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:58.828000+08:00 |
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超過兩點，但是我們的召委也有打電話給你，請你回來，當他在這裡的時候，可以公布我們的會議延長啊！ |
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0.976 |
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麥委員玉珍 |
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2025-01-02T09:55:58.988000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2025-01-02T09:55:59.569000+08:00 |
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對不對？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2025-01-02T09:55:59.569000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2025-01-02T09:56:23.957000+08:00 |
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但是他回來的時候，也看到你在這裡，我們其他也有人在，所以是還沒有開始，他可以進來說開始啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2025-01-02T09:56:24.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2025-01-02T09:56:32.202000+08:00 |
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但是你接到一通電話，辦公室的人就可以指令你要回去開會嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2025-01-02T09:56:32.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2025-01-02T09:56:40.948000+08:00 |
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但是來這邊是你主要的開會，不是說你隨時都可以離開去別的地方開會，不是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2025-01-02T09:56:40.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2025-01-02T09:56:41.088000+08:00 |
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因為按照這個…… |
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1 |
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麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2025-01-02T09:56:41.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2025-01-02T09:56:41.308000+08:00 |
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這個沒有因為，也沒有理由啊！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
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2025-01-02T09:56:41.408000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
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2025-01-02T09:56:41.788000+08:00 |
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事實上你就是要留下來開會的啊！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
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2025-01-02T09:56:50.249000+08:00 |
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2025-01-02T09:56:51.270000+08:00 |
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所以一通電話就可以叫你回去開會，你就回去了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2025-01-02T09:56:51.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2025-01-02T09:56:51.630000+08:00 |
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不是，到兩點的時候會議還沒開始，超過兩點照理來講…… |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
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2025-01-02T09:56:51.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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2025-01-02T09:56:53.151000+08:00 |
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超過，但是你還是要留下來，表示你有負責任要留下來繼續開會嘛！ |
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0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
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2025-01-02T09:56:53.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
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2025-01-02T09:56:54.151000+08:00 |
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不是，我是來瞭解狀況。 |
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0 |
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麥委員玉珍 |
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2025-01-02T09:56:53.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2025-01-02T09:56:53.951000+08:00 |
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但是你看到我們召委也有來這邊了，對不對？ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2025-01-02T09:57:08.319000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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2025-01-02T09:57:10.720000+08:00 |
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後來他打電話給你，你也說要回來，後來我們確實也回來開會，我們要協商，還沒有協商完，我有邀請所有內政委員趕快回來開會，我們內政要開會了，但是民進黨的委員沒有回來，國民黨的委員就回來，連我也回來開會。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2025-01-02T09:57:34.350000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2025-01-02T09:57:36.992000+08:00 |
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所以在你「落跑」之前，還有一些還堅守崗位的行政人員很負責任也是留下來，後來接到一通電話，他們陸陸續續也離開了，這是你指示的嗎？ |
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0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2025-01-02T09:57:36.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2025-01-02T09:57:37.733000+08:00 |
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還是他們自己想回去就自動回去？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-02T09:57:56.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2025-01-02T09:57:57.305000+08:00 |
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沒有指示。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2025-01-02T09:57:58.106000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:00.147000+08:00 |
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你沒有指示，是他們自動回去的嘛！ |
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0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2025-01-02T09:58:00.928000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:07.892000+08:00 |
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如果是這樣子的話，來開會可以隨時要回去就回去，沒有任何的規定就對了？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-02T09:58:08.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:12.655000+08:00 |
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如果你覺得是這樣子的話，我們今天還要審預算嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2025-01-02T09:58:12.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:12.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
還是乾脆不用審了？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2025-01-02T09:58:14.036000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:15.497000+08:00 |
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你們想要怎麼編就怎麼編，反正就是編你們想要的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2025-01-02T09:58:15.517000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:16.617000+08:00 |
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會過就會過，也不會說不會過啊，因為不會過的話，你們就說窒礙難行等等一堆嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.848 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-02T09:58:16.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:54.242000+08:00 |
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再來請問五鬼搬運的小金庫，就是你們的第二預備金變成單位的小金庫，想要拿就拿，你知道113年我們第二預備金編列了多少錢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-02T09:58:54.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2025-01-02T09:58:56.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
第二預備金沒有編列在行政院院本部的預算裡面。是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:04.762000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:04.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
確定喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:07.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:08.587000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
確定不是我們行政院的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:09.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:10.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
你可以查一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:21.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:25.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
對，不是編在我們院本部的預算，所以沒有在今天的審查範圍。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:25.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:30.828000+08:00 |
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不是在今天，但是這個也是我們政府的預算之一嘛！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:31.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:36.214000+08:00 |
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好，你說不是，所以你不知道我們編列多少，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:36.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:45.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
第二預備金編列了74億，你說不是我們行政院的…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:45.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-02T09:59:47.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
院本部。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-02T09:59:47.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-02T10:00:01.449000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
不是院本部的，但是這個也是總預算裡面的第二預備金，我們113年是編列了74億，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-02T10:00:03.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-02T10:00:07.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
不是行政院管轄的，所以你不知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-02T10:00:10.994000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2025-01-02T10:00:25.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
113年編列了74億，但是我們用的預備金只有大概到24億，所以還剩下多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2025-01-02T10:00:25.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-02T10:00:27.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
還剩下了五十多億，113年還剩下五十多億。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-02T10:00:27.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-02T10:00:54.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
但是（今）114年第二預備金的金額編了80億，比去年多出了6億，這個原因你應該也不知道，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-02T10:00:55.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-02T10:01:00.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
對，你應該也不知道，因為這個是整個總預算裡面，你都不會注意到這些啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2025-01-02T10:01:02.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-02T10:01:09.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
這個多出來的話就是浮編……就是要運用到，我們看到的是這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2025-01-02T10:01:09.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2025-01-02T10:01:46.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你說你不知道，但是要跟你報告一下，112年交通部中央氣象署辦理七股氣象雷達遷移更新計畫，他們編了兩千兩百多萬，但是在112年又申請了三千多萬，就是用二備金的，他們已經編列那麼多錢了，連續兩年還在申請。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2025-01-02T10:01:46.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2025-01-02T10:01:47.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
農業部112年也編列了5億，但是又連續112年、113年再來申請14億。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:01.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:04.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
還有農糧署每年編列了10億，但是就連續同樣的東西再來申請3億，這些你都不知道，是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:04.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:08.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
所以你覺得預備金不是你的管轄區，你不知道，所以預備金是不是今年80億就全部減列了？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:30.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:32.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
因為越來越多沒有用到，去年就剩下50億，今年還要編80億，所以我們政府的錢都可以隨便浮編，都可以編一編…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:32.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:33.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
報告委員，不是…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:32.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:32.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
你編嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:32.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:32.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我們要減也是減這些皮毛而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:48.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:56.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
報告委員，因為預備金是因應於氣候變遷或者是救災防護的需要，所以通常會稍微寬列一點，事實上沒用到也是繳回國庫。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.82 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:56.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:57.147000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
但是這3、4個單位…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:57.147000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-02T10:02:58.147000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
他們是實際上有需要。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.222 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-02T10:02:57.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2025-01-02T10:03:21.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
他們去申請預備金，如果他們每年編列不足，可以再編，但是他們編列那麼多錢了，還同樣的項目再來運用預備金。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-02T10:03:23.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2025-01-02T10:03:48.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
我覺得這個部分行政院是管理各部會，所以我們要了解各個部會編列的預算該不該編，對於預備用的，但是沒有用到那麼多，還剩下五十多億，今年還再編了80億，讓其他的部會再去申請，自己有編列那麼多預算了……所以這邊是小金庫，比就業安定基金還好用啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.876 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2025-01-02T10:03:48.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2025-01-02T10:03:49.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
是不是這樣子的意思？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2025-01-02T10:03:49.572000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2025-01-02T10:03:50.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
秘書長今天來審預算，我覺得很多應該不用審啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
麥委員玉珍 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2025-01-02T10:03:50.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2025-01-02T10:03:50.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
因為有很多你都不知道，好，以上，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2025-01-02T10:04:15.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2025-01-02T10:04:15.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
請王美惠委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |