| IVOD_ID |
158599 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158599 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-02T09:25:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-02T09:37:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/186d177ad48e30e575f08050688b35125efe2b3915ec926309f390aeb082454abd9c4a74a059f27d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:25:55 - 09:37:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長報告「推動『二軌外交』與『元首外交』（含『繁榮南島智慧永續』出訪專案與友邦合作計畫）及近期外交出訪之成效」，並備質詢。） |
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主席,我們請外交部林部長我請部長部長,看這個頭螢幕上這幾個字可不可以請部長唸一下世界台灣,台灣世界好台灣世界好是什麼意思讓世界看見台灣世界好就是總好 |
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很讚的就對了所以台灣世界好這個應該也是我們國人期待的目標部長你擔任過無人鎖大使無人鎖大使那幾年你都在做什麼我主要是在推動數位新南向我們有新南向政策我們希望把它升級到其實用數位科技來推動 |
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主要是以東南亞跟南亞國家當然南太平洋地區也在內所以我出版了一些書啦你不要一天到晚推薦你的書那個就是實踐的結果要把它理論化 |
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那你現在當這個外交部長你提出了一個名詞叫做總和外交那這個總和外交跟賴總統這個經濟日不落果大概也有大概這個相互呼應是那我們的外交體系當然就是一板一眼我每次到這個位置來的時候都覺得我們外交部來的官員大家都 |
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請教都很正式大家回答問題都一板一眼除了傳統的外交體系之外我想請問部長我們接下來除了傳統的外交體制我們怎麼看待譬如說世界台商會看待在全世界有很多的台灣會館我們有很多的台灣同鄉會 |
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很多學校有台灣同學會那這些台美人或者是台美人的第二代、第三代他們遍佈在全世界遍佈在美國、在日本那外交部跟這些單位之間的關係 |
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部長你會怎麼設定是 如委員講的因為以前我們外交部比較重視在這個政務啦那反而是僑務是僑委會或者是可能涉及台商是經濟部那我們現在就是說總和外交就是說部部都是外交部人人都是外交官 |
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那我們要整合 因為我們有很多外館比如說我這一次到美國去召開我們北美的區域匯報每家地區就總共有16個館處 |
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這麼大的能量他都有轄區我們有僑務委員 我們有台商會其實這些人就是草根的力量他對美國的一個政策的形成影響很大我們不能只重視所謂的國會山莊或者是白宮在華府所以這個部分我們現在在推動就是sub-national就是國家下面的比較是地區的 |
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整合像川普他有很多支持這個Mega的草根力量就他的調和咖很多其實不是在全國性他是在該州甚至城市下面所以您剛剛提的這一些就是我講的總和外交裡面除了我剛剛講的這個我們僑委會經濟部還包括其實很多的第二代的台美人 |
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還有甚至是一些在文化工作上面的這個也都應該整合起來變成一個總和外交的一個隊部長你知道實際上這些單位他們每年在辦他們的年會辦他們的餐會辦他們各式各樣的活動我們的外館啊我們的外館都去做什麼 |
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當然受邀就出席嘛所以喬委會 過去是為主我們現在跟喬委會之間有密切的聯繫那我們也會把他列入KPI因為我參加過幾個啦我覺得那都很形式標準的SOP就是先放一段賴總統的影片 |
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接下來呢我們駐外館的這個我不知道那個職稱叫什麼可能是叫處長或者是那他就會上台大概講個五分鐘的話然後就開始進行參會 |
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那這些處長啊,我看他們也疲於奔命因為這些單位很多那每一場也都會有這些僑務委員參加可是我覺得太流於形式啦那既然要推動總和外交那這些單位的能量啊就是說我們在海外的這些外館啊不要都是人邀請,去那裡致詞去那裡吃飯,就沒有了 |
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大家都很累,處長住洛杉磯的或是住舊金山的,很多會都會邀請他們嘛那他們去就是,我覺得好像都一直在應酬,不好應該是想辦法,看怎麼樣把剛剛包括部長提的,這些人,這些台灣人,一味就是很有影響力的 |
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包括這次在選舉,因為我選舉期間去,美國在選舉期間,裡面也有人選議員選一個小鎮叫議員,他也很熱情在參與他們美國的政治活動所以這個部分我想外館看要做什麼努力,請部長再回去拜託我們外館的同仁大家及時廣義看要怎麼樣來進行 |
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第二個這個課題是說,當我們在做這個總和外交的時候,部長你告訴我總和外交嘛,命也你合的嘛 |
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你2025年編多少事情,要做總的外交,還是觀光外交要到觀光署編啦,我們這時候開一個會叫觀光外交,我們開一個會叫科技,開一個會叫文化,像吳斯亞委員也提到文化嘛,跟外交要合在一起。社交部有沒有特別編了什麼樣的專案計畫,要來進行總合外交? |
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總和外交當然是一個政策的方向一個觀念或一套相關的作為我們因為預算是319億已經編列經過委員會已經送這個大會要討論我覺得在於不是說新增加預算當然涉及到的一些比如說我舉個例子像在日本大阪要辦世博 |
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我們這上半年下半年呢我們故宮在捷克有百見文物的展出過去就是單一活動可能一個部會在處理那我們現在就提早跟跨部會啊來進行協調那整合所有的力量讓那個活動的效益可以更大就像說去年的巴黎的奧運文化奧運都在那裡所以我們讓他的外交效應極大化 |
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那至於說雙邊啦 比如我們現在外交部的榮邦計畫裡面有一些是跟比如說我們涉及到的這些新人員跟探犬 可能跟環境部我們就有雙邊委員會 有工作小組那觀光文化也都是這一些外交部到底是主動還是被動就是說你是要出來盜用這些事情 |
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還是說這些單位他們遇到有外交上需要外交部協助你們跳進來還是怎麼樣其實我們因為外管就是外交部所以事情會來找外交部我們就是一個整合的窗口那與其各自為政我們不如變成一個平台 |
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因為現在的一個效果就是外館有各個部會派的人啊各支可能他們各支向部本部去報告我們現在在第一線就整合在一起那現在行政院有經濟外交工作小組那我們又透過經濟外交跟榮邦計畫展開雙邊的就雙部會的委員會工作小組所以用這個方式啊我們雖然沒有去做組織改造也沒有增加太多預算但是把資源整合一起走出去好 這個很好 |
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那最後一個就問2028的洛杉磯奧運是這跟外交部有關嗎這個很有關係因為我想除了教育部或是未來的運動部其實所有的出訪或是競賽外交部一定是在地在服務比如說我們去參加像世界衛生組織像是衛福部其實那個外交部外管很辛苦這樣聽起來你們都在配合 |
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在協助啦 在配合 在協助我是建議這樣啦 就是說這個2028洛杉磯奧運喔我們在洛杉磯有很多代表啦台美人啦 台美青年啦 包括台灣會同鄉會 商會 台商會都很多主動啦 |
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主動喔 因為你每次出國去嘛 去到這裡 洛杉磯 台灣會館 這裡好朋友來參上一下看外交部怎麼在洛杉磯奧運的時候 要有一個主要的角色讓我們這個選手去到洛杉磯比賽的時候 就類似像這次去巴黎嘛吳志忠 次長 以前在那裡 |
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也去創一個什麼活動中心給我們的人最高檔的他們的廚師嘛 賭榜嘛像這種東西 洛杉磯的橋界啊他們很想要多高保支持一下 他們就開始辦了他們就開始去協助 |
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做這些在地的協助工作,需要國家跟他們說,好,2028年,台美青年,二代、三代,所有的主管,包括有的去旅館的、去飯店的、去餐廳的、去蝦蝦的,有的做店長的 |
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這一些人全部整合起來啊我想會讓我們2028的這種洛杉磯奧運的台灣代表隊啊去到那裡就比賽的成績也會更好我希望外交部在這件事情上啊主動啦主動不要等那個體育署還是臨港的運動部來接外交部說哇這不通外交部幫我們倒三天這樣這個好過就完全不一樣了好我們就主動集體啦因為聽台灣齁 |
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這個大家都看得到啦今年的巴黎奧運還有我們這個包括棒球12強那運動是最能夠團結人民最能夠走向國際所以我們會把2028洛杉磯奧運當作外交部的事當作我們台灣人所有包括跨部會的事情一起來推動巴黎奧運其實我上任的時候就成立一個小組 |
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包括宣傳面包括所有的接待還有以及這個涉及到的應變那這個是我們可以看很好的一個例子我們會在巴黎奧運的基礎上讓洛杉磯的這個奧運讓Team Taiwan更響亮好 部長加油好 一起加油 |