| IVOD_ID |
15858 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15858 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-15-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-29T08:31:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-29T13:06:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:34:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3eacb0d1d3af5c18c1c0cc1067dc387cc1f3be8d109af184be4080065e9621791e75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、「新住民權益保障法草案」及「新住民基本法草案」：(詢答及處理)(一)審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具「新住民權益保障法草案」案。(二)審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「新住民基本法草案」案。(三)審查委員張智倫等18人擬具「新住民基本法草案」案。(四)審查國民黨黨團擬具「新住民基本法草案」案。(五)審查委員蘇巧慧等26人擬具「新住民基本法草案」案。【第(四)案及第(五)案如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書則不予審查。】二、繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二十條之一條文草案」案。
備註：4月29日（星期一）、5月1日(星期三)【兩天一次會】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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08:31:46 - 13:06:00 |
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報告事項一、宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案即24案決定書面報告已送達預算得以動之提報院會討論事項一、審查內政部涵送國家住宅及都市更新中心113年度預算凍結書面報告案即已案 |
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2030.065 |
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2050.726 |
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討論事項和並詢答莊委員瑞雄等21人質詢分別由內政部部長林友昌政務次長花敬群及相關人員答覆說明登記發言委員除不在場者外其餘均已發言完畢詢答結束委員黃仁牛許廷所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報書面質詢及未及答覆部分請相關機關於一週內另以書面答覆並複製本會 |
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案。 決議同意動之提報院會。 二、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案及六案。 決議討論事項二、第一案令定期繼續審查。 二、第二至第六案各案均同意動之提報院會。 三、審查國際法部分條文修正草案共計十六案。 |
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2072.396 |
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2099.153 |
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決議一、第四條、第五條、第六條、第七條、第九條、第二十條均照行政院提案通過。二、第二條、第十九條不予修正維持現行條文。三、委員羅美玲等18人提案委員陳培宇等18人提案增訂第六條之一不予增訂。四、本次會議審查通過這條文及相關法制用語授權主席及議事人員整理。五、並按審查完具擬具審查報告提報院會討論不需交由黨團寫上並推起無召集委員起名於院會討論時作補充說明。宣讀完畢。 |
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請問各位委員上次會議的議會議事錄有沒有錯誤或遺漏的地方?好 謝謝議事錄確定我們繼續進行討論事項請宣讀 |
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2129.75 |
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案。 一、新住民權益保障法及新住民基本法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具新住民權益保障法草案。 審查台灣民眾黨黨團委員張智倫等18人國民黨黨團及委員蘇巧慧等26人分別擬具新住民基本法草案案。 |
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2131.175 |
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2156.55 |
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二、繼續審查委員鄭天才等20人擬具原住民族基本法徵定第20條之一條文草案案。 宣讀完畢本人議程所討論的事項我們是合併詢答我們現在介紹在場委員還有列席的官員我們首先介紹蘇巧慧委員繼續介紹李博義委員羅美玲委員 |
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2158.75 |
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2186.991 |
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馬玉珍委員劉巡庭委員我們繼續來介紹一下與會的官員內政部我們花敬群政務次長移民署鍾景坤署長入出國事務組林怡俊組長移民事務組黃玲玉組長 |
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2189.408 |
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2211.981 |
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國際執行法事務組張文秀組長移民資訊組黃耀良組長人事室嚴昭儀主任北區事務大隊吳嘉鴻大隊長國境事務大隊林哲謙大隊長民政司檢預經檢認視察 |
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2215.543 |
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2240.379 |
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中教級理智師唐耕生專門委員國土管理署駐在發展組張瓊苑兼任政工程師警政署甘延明副組長地政司何振達專門委員原住民組委員會政務副組委古仲格勒凡 |
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2243.732 |
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2247.714 |
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大陸委員會法證處周明瑞處長港澳蒙藏處李敬梅組長行政院外交國防法務處陳永志副處長 |
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2274.485 |
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2287.154 |
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教育部中生教育師李玉堅師長高等教育師周宏偉專門委員師資培育及藝術教育師劉鳳雲專門委員國民及學前教育署特教組李晶晶專門委員衛生福利部社會保險師陳真惠副師長 |
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2303.194 |
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2324.167 |
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社會救助及社公司陳怡如科長社會及家庭署陳昭帆科長勞動部勞動力發展署鍾景濟副署長農業部農村發展及水土保持署鍾啟榮組長漁業署謝順雄科長 |
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2331.583 |
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2356.746 |
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經濟部投資促進司陳文成經濟參事投資審議司蔡忠吉專門委員國際貿易署梁家裕檢任秘書商業發展署熊立恆副署長外交部條約法律司黃仁良專門委員 |
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2359.734 |
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2379.991 |
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領事事務局簽證主陳冠廷科長文化部綜合規劃司嚴榮鑫副司長交通部交通產業發展及國際事務司林茂雄副司長司法院司法行政廳高裕順廳長法務部廖江憲參事 |
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2414.528 |
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財政部國產署侯瓊林科長負稅署花怡芳科長國家發展委員會社會發展處謝偉智專務委員人力發展處黃淑婷科長考選部考選規劃司蔡寶珠副司長國家通訊傳播委員會電台與內容事務處林惠玲處長 |
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2417.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
2438.477 |
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數位發展部資源管理師曾文芳副司長行政院人事行政總署主編人力處張雅惠專門委員行政院主計總署公務預算處邱碧珠專門委員基金預算處江衍生科長 |
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2440.185 |
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2441.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
張智倫委員黃潔委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
2470.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2470.996 |
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請蘇巧慧委員提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
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2511.15 |
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隨著全球化浪潮及社會結構轉變的趨勢移民現象已經越來越普遍移民目的也日漸多元使得我國新住民人口隨之增加以內政部現行對新住民之定義國人之非本國籍配合人數已經將近60萬若再加上第二代子女約50萬新住民家庭人口總數已經突破100萬人是我國邁入多元文化及移民社會的重要力量 |
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2529.034 |
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為本席認為新住民應不限於婚姻移民應包含依國際法規劃取得我國國籍者以及應該包含應工作投資等目的而移居台灣籍人才新住民及其子女遍佈社會各角落早已成為我國不可或缺的重要力量 |
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2529.474 |
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2547.112 |
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就普遍面對與人格合、文化差異及生活適應的條件。會落實有國憲法《徵求條文》第10條第11項之規定國家肯定多元文化之意旨進一步達到人人在法律上一律平等且應受法律平等保護之目的所以我特別提出以《新住民基本法草案》就 |
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2570.437 |
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新住民之生活適應、就學就業、衛生醫療、文化發展以及社會救助等面向制定相關條文,以保障新住民基本權益,促進我國成為多元文化與人共存共融之祥和社會。以上說明,其能獲得各位委員的支持。謝謝。好,非常謝謝喬惠委員的這個提案說明。繼續我們請國民黨團的代表,牛徐廷委員提案說明。 |
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2586.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2599.008 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委 |
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2607.395 |
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2622.449 |
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在全球全化的氣勢下,國際移民的規模日越廣大,各國的移民比例一直在提升,而我國的新住民人數即將突破60萬人。他們為台灣社會帶來了多元文化, |
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2651.445 |
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案。 使我國的經濟、教育、文化等各方面都有更多元且創新的發展。同時,我們也必須要保障新住民在我國的法律、地位以及正是新住民在台生活面臨所認定的困境。新住民在台灣社會重要的一份子。 |
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2652.523 |
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2675.593 |
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但一直以來都牽扯正式法院來明定新住民法律地位而且中央也沒有一個統籌新住民事務專責機構所以新住民的業務落在各部會這樣要如何讓新住民權利義務受到全面的保障 |
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2676.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2698.207 |
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案。 依據院政部移民署在107年新住民生活需求調查報告也指出新住民生活照顧服務需要中設立新住民專責服務機構是高居第二名,代表很多在台灣的新住民也期待著有一個專責機構來整合各方面的資源來統籌規劃新住民相關的政策。 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2706.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2709.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第2審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
2723.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2740.093 |
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案。 全面保障新住民的教育、文化、醫療、就業等各方面的平等機會,並加強對新住民文化、教育和語言支持,以足新住民與台灣社會的融合,直達真正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2740.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2762.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
案。 彼此包容、接納不同,因此我誠懇呼喚各個委員能夠共同支持新住民基本法草案在不分黨派、集合共識之下,讓法案順利通過,共創一個更加公正、平等、和諧和共榮社會。 |
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2764.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2764.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
審查委員 |
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2774.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2796.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
謝謝主席今天代表國民黨團針對新住民基本法進行提案說明第一根據內政部今年3月最新統計我國新住民人數已達59萬5千人若再加上新住民子女47萬人家庭人口數即將突破100萬人新住民來台落地生根積極融入台灣社會已經成為我國不可或缺的新力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
2797.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2814.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
第二、新住民因為語言、文化隔閡等因素加上新住民事務工作目前散落在各部會以至於生活適應上遭遇困難甚至求助無門因此我們需要一個可以整合跨部會資源的專責機關提供新住民家庭更完善的權益保障 |
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2815.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2836.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
第三、106年監察院研究報告有提到婚姻移民政策之規劃已推動涉及中央各部會之間業務權責及橫向協調合作但現有的新住民事務協調匯報顯然功能相對有限協調整合以及督導往往流於形式因此我們建議政府研議制定專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2837.054 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2858.616 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
同年本院內政委員會召開《新住民基本法草案公聽會》內政部書面報告更提到正在收集先進國家立法及執行方式審慎研議最佳的立法內容但6年多來行政院依然沒有提出版本讓新住民權益的保障牛步不前我想是蠻遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
2860.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2882.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
最後國民黨團希望藉由新住民基本法落實憲法平等權的原則並且要求行政院設置新住民事務委員會統籌相關事務明定新住民發展基金法律依據以及基金來源以維持財源穩定此外我們也要求政府設置新住民文化重點發展區推動新住民文化產業發展加速新住民融入我國社會懇請朝野 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
2884.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2890.436 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
案。 立委共同支持,我們一起競速達成多元融合賠利,提升國家競爭力的總體發展目標。 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
2908.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2924.624 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
主席好各位委員各位官員大家早安大家好那今天是新住民基本法草案的提案那隨著時代的演進我們的社會變得越來越多元一個非常顯而易見台灣社會的改變就是新住民族的興起 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
2925.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
案。 剛剛非常多委員有提到現在新住民的人口已經內政部統計已經將近60萬人所以是一個不能忽視的聲音那在本席的選區在新北市中和區我們有非常一條非常著名的華新街也是知名的緬甸街每年都會辦非常有意義的點燈節跟潑水節讓我們所有台灣以及我們的新住民都帶來的鄉親平安那所以我們認為這新住民在過去這個舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2954.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2955.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具《新住民基本法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2977.297 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2994.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
種族階級黨派在法律前一律平等以及剛剛我特別提到的憲法徵修條文第10條基本國策的部分以及第11條前段就是我們國家肯定多元文化發展等等的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2996.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
3012.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
讓我們憲法來促進族群平等以及人民權利的規範讓我們台灣促進多元的文化所以今天本席提出了新住民基本法來確保新住民在台灣的社會可以提到充分的保護以及尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
3013.166 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
3040.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
案。 以及我們關心新住民的生活需求提供他們必要的資源以及幫助那最後我們可以讓我們不同的文化來做交流以及理解所以我想今天建立新住民法不僅是可以保障新住民的權利更可以推動我國的發展所以希望我們今天不分黨派不分彼此用更 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
3042.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
3067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
更開放的態度來針對今天的修法一起共同來努力一起來實現多元文化共榮建立一個更協和更繁榮的社會所以今天還是要拜託我們的討論希望未來我們行政院新住民法的版本盡快提出以及新住民基本法盡快通過以及我們未來能推動新住民委員會給所有新住民一個更安居樂業的生活以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
3068.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
3068.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
3094.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
3115.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
主席、各位委員先進大家好感謝各位委員對於新住民業務的關心和指導今天各位委員會召開審查《新住民基本法草案》及《新住民權益保障法草案》共五個版本本部應要報告列席備感榮幸現況截至今年3月底我國婚姻移民及新住民子女人數已逾百萬成為國家重要的人力資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
3115.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
3130.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
為完備對新住民的照顧服務本部整合中央地方民間團體力量推動各項措施則要說明如下第一則訂新住民照顧服務措施本部自92年已訂定新住民照顧服務措施結合中央地方機關民間團體等 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
3132.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
3156.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
案,適應讓新住民能夠在生活適應醫療、保健、就業權益等8項服務措施並辦理公告與網站。第二,設置新住民發展基金。自94年編列3萬,然後105年更名為新住民發展基金,規模維持每年10億元。基金規模的4大業務面向補助地方和民間團體,落實推動新住民照顧, |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
3158.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
3186.713 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
105年至112年合併補助1774件,27億6600餘萬。第三,成立行政院新住民事務協調匯報。行政院在104年6月成立新住民事務協調匯報擬定並統整各項跨部會新住民及子女照顧服務政策如基金轉型、建立統一制度精進事辦計劃、支援南向政策培育新住民多餘人才等。第四,培育新住民及子女。 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
3188.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
3207.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
陪例新住民子女發揮多元文化優勢令來辦理的多項計劃和活動包含了第一新住民及子女海外陪例計劃新住民及子女築夢計劃新住民及子女陪例及獎助學金計劃新住民子女國內培育員吸引多元文化人才培訓計劃等第五 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
3210.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
3238.915 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
案。 辦理出入境關懷及家庭教育新住民入國後至移民署申請居留時提供一對一的關懷訪談並鼓勵新住民及家人共同參加家庭教育活動。第六推動變民行動服務列車移民署各服務站結合相關機關赴偏遠地區宣導服務措施並提供辦理居留延期法令諮詢變更居住地等服務。 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
3239.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
3253.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
第七設置外來人事在台諮詢服務熱線1990諮詢項目包括居留、就業、健保、人身安全、社會福利等資訊並可及時進行三方通話解決在台問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
3255.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
3270.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
建制新住民培力發展資訊網建制一善事的新住民培力發展資訊網作為各部會地方政府所提供新住民相關課程、活動等資訊平台以利新住民快速了解政府各項措施和服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
3272.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
3292.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
關於委員及各黨團版本的提案大院委員關心新住民議題包含羅美玲委員等22人提出新住民權益保障法草案民眾黨黨團張智倫委員等18人國民黨黨團及蘇曉慧委員等26人所提新住民基本法草案本部說明重點如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
3294.453 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
3314.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
第一有關新住民的定義五個版本草案所定義的新住民均包含了婚姻移民、外籍生、外國專業人士規劃為我國國民者民眾黨黨團、張智倫委員及國民黨黨團等草案則包含了新住民子女另外新住民子女及涉及後之新住民其身份為國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
3316.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
3335.582 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
權利義務均與國人無異如再訂專法恐有資源重置又盛開五個版本草案均包含外籍生但依照國際間的慣例並未將外籍生視為移民此外外籍移工有居留年限的限制且權利義務有別於一般外國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
3336.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
3358.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
為使適用對象明確合理,新住民定義建議以婚姻、就業含中階人士及投資移民為主,並限定應符合入境一定期間。關於設置專責機構,有關中央設置專責機構、地方政府設置單一窗口或行政局、涉及行政院組織法、中央政府機關源額法、中央行政機關組織法、預算編列等, |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
3360.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
3386.761 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
並牽涉中央及地方權責且地方政府、轄內新住民人數和一縣市人數和特性都有所差異以聽取地方政府之意見。關於新住民文化重點發展區新住民非單一來源國語言及文化均不同且未居住特定區域設置新住民文化重點發展區其目的、用途、做法尚待釐清並規劃專責機關設立前 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
3389.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
3405.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
由移民署辦理恐非適當有關新住民相關調查本部自92年起每5年辦理新住民生活需求調查作為各級政府推動新住民各項照顧服務及制定相關服務政策的參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
3406.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
3423.873 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
有關鼓勵多元化交流新住民語言非國家語言可鼓勵國人學習新住民母語自辦理該國母語認證恐不符國際慣例有關工作權的保障新住民獲准在台居留即可工作其勞動權益與我國國民相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
3424.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
3432.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
案。至於職場諮商系僱主提供員工協助方案的事項、尚非就業服務內容,用新住民成為國人後即可報考專門技術人員。 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
3445.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
3456.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
我們當然感謝委員對於新住民的關注那對於這議題其實行政院各部會都已經有非常多的配套措施在做既然有配套措施為什麼沒有行政院版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
3457.818 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
3466.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
現階段新住民的核心議題各位委員關注的可能會在哪些地方?其他單位的報告請委員自行參閱並刊登公報。 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
3476.281 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
3503.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
現在我們進行詢答委員質詢前我們按照案例做以下幾點的宣告第一本會委員會的發言時間是4分鐘不要的時候我們延長2分鐘非本會委員發言的時間是4分鐘上午10點半我們截止發言登記因為今日的會議處理法案所以我們就不處理臨時提案了請問各位委員有沒有意見好 謝謝我們現在請登記第一位的書巧會委員來質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
3512.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
3541.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
好 謝謝主席我們請花次長請花次長 謝謝蘇委員長次長好次長今天的這個新住民保障權益的部分我自己也有提出我的版本新住民的基本法那我想所有的委員提出的版本甚至包括各黨團態度都一樣就是保障新住民權益讓這個大家能夠更清楚國家更知道資源要怎麼配置這個都沒有問題那可是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
3542.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
3565.266 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
一方面是我的版本提出之後內政部有來溝通的就是我們有一些討論的同時跟您請教過然後呢不是到辦公室免得等一下各位說什麼等一下說什麼大小也沒有是我跟您請教然後呢你剛剛也真的有說了非常多的點了之後我確實有看到雖然我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
3566.147 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
3567.348 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
案。 審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
3582.737 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
3607.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
然後他適用的對象到底是誰我覺得這個對象一定要能夠確定清楚之後我們後面在談的權益範圍要擴張到什麼程度其實才有辦法真正的落實這是我們在討論過後我自己雖然提出版本之後在經過細部就這個細究之後也開始看到這樣的問題首先那我就問你嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
3607.941 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
3626.216 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
以現行法條來講的話,那次長你知道我們的現行法條當中有哪幾個法條講到了新住民這三個字,對新住民有定義目前其實只有基金這個地方才會有,相關的法律裡面並不存在新住民三個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
3627.657 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
3654.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
其實還有另外一個教育部教育部他在新住民就讀大學辦法裡面也有偏查所有現行法規就這兩個有講到新住民三個字但是他的定義上面其實並沒有很清楚但有直接說指涉的適用範圍就有點剛剛說內政部的這個新住民發展基金的部分他是指外籍中國港澳配偶及其子女那教育部的直接是規劃者 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
3655.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
3681.867 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
好 那如果看到我們各委員的版本哇 那就不一樣了有包含這個婚姻關係進來的配偶也有投資工作的移民也有他們的子女甚至有包括是就學的或者是移工那這個範圍到底到哪裡市長 你有沒有心中有沒有一個輪廓簡單我剛剛在書面報告或者口頭報告大概都提到是以婚姻就業和投資移民可能會是比較恰當的範疇 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
3682.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3686.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
3712.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3712.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
案。 審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
3733.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
3760.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
是跟我們完全一樣既沒有語言隔閡也沒有文化差異的時候那這個保障還應該給予存在嗎這就是我在想說如果到新二代所謂奇籍子女的時候我們到底要到什麼狀況因為像原住民的話其實我們是因為血統的關係還有認同的關係其實是可以一代又一代下去但如果新住民的保障當時是為了融入社會的這個GAP要把它擬平這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
3762.235 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
3770.263 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
3786.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
3787.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
3802.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
3827.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
新加入台灣這個大家庭的有困難的人我們都要保障他嗎那這樣子我們的設計方法就會不太一樣那反過來如果是他已經到位的時候那這要怎麼停住所以我想今天我就藉著我這個第一日質詢也跟您討論也跟各位在場的委員分享我在研讀這部法律之後我認為其實我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
3829.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
3856.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
所謂新加入台灣這個大家庭的各個人不管他是工作的或者是投資的或者是婚姻的我們確實都應該要給予保障那我們今天也是希望做這件事情所以後面大家寫的都大同小異在權力的配置甚至要設立專責機關我的版本也是如此啦但我覺得我們今天應該要最先處理的是目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
3857.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
3879.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
案和對象。我覺得只有這兩點處理完成之後,我們這步法才有辦法走下去。這是我的看法,不曉得次長你覺得如何?我謝謝委員講得非常非常清楚。其實意思也就是說,台灣對新住民的這個協助照顧,其實已經有非常多的資源的投入。那他一旦變成國人,其實他又等同享有國人的資格。 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
3879.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
3908 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
案。 此外其實我們對於新住民子女因為說他可能母親可能是來自於例如說東南亞所以他對於他的賠利甚至他未來的發展的機會我們還比一般對國人子女的照顧還有他另外發展的新的想像所以其實是多元在照顧的好我想今天大家都會有很多的問題我就不佔用時間不過我給市長一個小提醒就好了我知道我們已經做了很多不過我覺得這句話等一下可以不用一直說我覺得我們可以做更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
3909.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
3909.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
蔣麗芸議員蔣麗芸議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
3941.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
3953.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
本席看了移民署的報告請問次長瞭解新住民來台灣後主要的困難在哪裡其實當然適應和語言隔閡我覺得當然是一個最核心的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
3954.793 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
3959.877 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
3977.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
3990.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 |
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4007.009 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
4031.495 |
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我講我們絕對是盡全力再來協助所以剛才我們蘇小慧委員說就是做很好盡全力但是達到的目的在哪裡剛才你有報告說你有做了很多培訓培訓就是變成我們新住民跟新二代就變成你們的內政部跟移民署的專業學生所以沒有發展的平台絕對不會是這樣他就是我們的國人他就是我們的中華民國國民 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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任何人都有各式各樣的問題,沒有任何一個人是沒有問題的。新住民所就是來我們就是問題很多元,但是如果是因為婚姻不對等導致就是家暴,有很多就是因為家暴後出去外面住了,但是要在規劃國籍的時候,我們要去申請戶籍成本。 |
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是要先生同意的先生沒有同意的話先生是申請我們申請不到導致就是夫妻不對等新住民在台灣這樣子繼續受到家暴又沒辦法有其他的權利你覺得這樣子是我們的各個部會夠了嗎 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第11屆第2會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第 |
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4117.268 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 |
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雖然是說語言還有文化的差異在職場上也容易受到就是工作的歧視所以找工作啊面臨也很多的問題所以我們只要需要說一個就是問保的新台灣人但是呢在我們的子女的差異剛才就是說我們希望就是我們新住民基本法就是保障剛來的新住民但是有拿到身份證的都是不需要照顧了這個是不對的 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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4186.909 |
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4201.731 |
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從我們上一個會期我們有說新二代要規劃國籍就是要18歲以下但是沒有規劃國籍這個也是要幫助的嘛新二代不用18歲啊他生出來就是中華民國國民 |
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當時規劃台灣國籍就是在國外的新二代所以這群也是我們要照顧的所以為什麼要納入在裡面是我們的考慮的是照顧的需要照顧的人不是說20歲以後我們還要照顧但是我們的這個部分我們在研議所以我們需要就是說現在的責任機構已經是完善但是呢照顧不完美所以我們希望說 |
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案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案 |
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新住民將近60萬人新二代也大概50萬人移工80萬人還有就是我們境外學生有10萬人所以我們希望這個基本法希望說在台灣有一個就是需要一個單一窗口 |
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來去幫助政府來協助我們幫助這群在國外的人來台灣因為我們政府很多的部門變成資源分散栽培人才沒有給予機會還有台灣沒有一個統籌新住民的單位所以我們現在各個黨部各提出這樣子的需求就是要希望有一個單位一個單一的窗口來去 |
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服務這樣的部分的話就減少社會問題也減少很多的資源我們應用這個資源不是大撒逼每個單位我都給錢到最後沒有辦好就是政治需求誰什麼人來申請我就把他撒出去就是我的業務有做好這樣的話因為我看到太多是這樣子了所以我們希望有一個專職的機構有一個單位有一個基本法來去服務 |
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我們要栽培要給一機會給大家去發揮給大家去幫助到我們的在台灣剛來的人這個才是真正我們今天要提出來需要的不是說我們有這個部會這邊有錢這邊辦這邊辦到最後我做很多但是到最後都是我們變成專業學生沒有一個真正的照顧到 |
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所以希望大家重視這個問題謝謝我們的次長因為今天來你都講的都是我們做了很多但是沒有效果以上報告好 謝謝我們麥玉珍委員接下來我們請高金素梅委員發言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
4411.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 |
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實際上我先說在2019年的時候蔡總統非常的重視這個新住民所以呢他特別用六種語言向新住民尋求支持然後呢我們也可以看到他的人數根據我們的內政部、移民署、教育部、勞動部統計我們的外籍配偶有59萬3千餘人大專院校境外生大概10萬3千多人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
外國專業人員5萬4千多人,一共75萬6千餘人,總數151萬人。可以看到這151萬人就是我們所有的政治人物或政黨很想要吸取的人數。所以在2019年的時候,蔡英文總統為了要競選連任,所以她推出廣告用6種語言。 |
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案。 向我們的新住民尋求支持。玉珍委員在這邊質詢的時候也曾經講過。請問一下蔡政府任內已經不到一個月了。你給蔡政府對新住民的政策總體打幾分? |
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| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
審查委員 |
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4536.903 |
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除了各部會的相關資源之外,我們另外又額外加了11,就像說新住民升級住民補貼、社會住宅,我另外也會給。因為就是非常的不滿足,所以今天那麼多委員,包括民眾黨、包括國民黨,才會提出新住民基本法案。 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
4566.208 |
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4566.328 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
審查委員 |
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4575.405 |
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我想這就需要大家再多給我們一些訪問。我們內部當然有做一些討論,政府非常多的掌握,但是有沒有嚴重到需要去修正呢?我們當然持續滾動在檢討當中啊。我的質詢一向是非常的理性,所以你認為有沒有繼續改善的空間? |
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4628.988 |
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根據我們可以看到我就講幾個新住民培力發展資訊網和新住民的數位資訊網有六種語言版本可是移民署你們最重要你們的網站幾乎是國際平台你們的新住民發展基金平台申請表格和說明文件只有中文需不要改進所以語言的部分你們非常的不友善啊光是講語言的部分你就非常的不友善啊 |
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是不是需要改進?移民署的代表有沒有來?對啊,你為什麼不說話呢?不要浪費我的時間,你們的申請表跟說明文件只有中文,你們覺得是不是需要按照蔡總統要有六種語言? |
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4660.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
4672.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
4689.941 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
我再請問市長如果中文聽不懂的新住民這個時候此時此刻立法院正在直播我請問一下我們正在討論他們的權益你認為他們會聽得懂嗎?所以在語言的環境上是不是我們需要再加強努力呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
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4710.058 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
當然是,如果說能夠多一點傳遞當然更好。我們聽一下最關心人權的人權委員會他們是怎麼說的他在去年說消除一切形式種族歧視國際公約國家報告中國家人權委員會特別針對我們的政府對於新住民的施政 |
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| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
提出的批評有幾點?第一個,不是我講的喔這是國家人權委員會他的書面說的他說在通譯制度上我們的政府沒有積極推動和建制符合新住民需求的通譯服務第二個,在境外結婚的面談的政策上面哪些國家人民會被要求面談沒有明確的衡量標準這導致新住民不知所措 |
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| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
新住民遭受種族歧視內政部申訴審議小組的申訴管道的資訊非常不明確也沒有提供多國的語言這等於政府帶頭再一次的歧視新住民而我會這麼樣的關注新住民的權益我在今天還特別排了新住民基本法的審查是因為原住民族跟新住民是一樣的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
當時我們的政府在選前的時候非常重視然後選後了之後就拋棄了族群所以花次長還有署長在這裡真的提醒你們因為你們做不好包括國家人權委員會都已經告訴你們有那麼多的改進的地方你們還不虛心檢討嗎更何況今天沒有行政院版本 |
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| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
我們其實關於剛委員提到的同意制度其實在去年12月21號已經核定新的經濟方案其實也做了非常多那當然境外面談基本上是外交部在執行這個部分當然內政部不便多說啦那你覺得身為一個政府是不是橫向聯繫都要把這些都提出來講呢這才是政府政府是一體的不要告訴我你內政部有內政部工作然後教育部有教育部移民署有移民署我們絕對不會逃避問題啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
絕對不會逃避問題蔡政府剩下最後一個月了請問你們如何逃避2019年蔡英文總統曾經承諾我們的新住民過 |
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| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
這幾年來其實一直都在努力、都在精進,其實我們態度從來都沒有那麼努力的。如果今天有精進努力,代表新住民的立法委員、蔓越真委員都不會想要提出我們來援助新住民的基本法。那你認為應該怎麼樣才重視?那你認為應該怎麼樣才重視?如果說有看到問題,提出問題,我們解決問題,這才是重要的。好,你現在看到什麼問題了? |
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我想委員要來提這個版本你一定有什麼重要的問題需要政府來提那你認為今天你要來這裡要處理新住民的基本法你認為有什麼問題 |
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審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件,是用立法的方式還是用核心問題的處理方式?」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,是用立法的方式還是用核心問題的處理方式?」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,是用立法的方式還是用核心問題的處理方式?」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,是用立法的方式還是用核心問題的處理方式?」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,是用立法的方式還是用核心 |
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下一位我們請張宏祿委員好 謝謝張宏祿委員我請次長跟署長有請次長跟署長 謝謝張委員好來 次長其實今天很多委員提了很多相關新住民權益的法案 |
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我有基本法有權益保障法案其實我想先請教一個問題就是說我們有沒有必要來訂定這個相關於對於新住民的專法 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 與新住民權益保障法草案案件 與新住民權益保障法草案案件 與新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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我們所有現行的相關法案裡面對新住民的權利、新住民的權利、新住民的該所作我們有沒有都規範到了 |
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我想各部會在不管從教育文化上就業生活等等面向其實就以國人的角度該做的其實都有做但是我當然知道因為新住民有各種他的語言他的生活適應甚至還有一些個人部分國人的歧視等等而導致了一些困難那這些事情不足那我們把問題點找出來其實該怎麼樣來精進我們都會來努力 |
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市長說的都沒有錯啦齁但好我簡單問一個問題嘛齁新住民要不要包括移工 |
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很多的新住民其實嫁來台灣他的另一半年紀都比他大很多是不是這樣呢 署長你們的統計 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
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大約19萬人新住民本身已經超過50歲了那很多他的另一半已經不在了已經不在了那他就面臨的一個問題囉長照的問題來囉對不對長照的問題就來囉我跟你講而且有些新住民他雖然有資格 |
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可以規劃但他不申請規劃因為他可能原國籍的地方福利也不錯或什麼等等也不錯那再來有一個問題就是說來我簡單舉一個好了我們現在低收入戶的補助等等的新住民在他原國籍他的父母親或什麼有財產也列入也列入 |
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這一點要不要檢討?這個部分的確是在檢討當中,我們也跟衛福提出這個問題。在檢討當中,所以你也認為要檢討嘛?對不對?他有可能很多原因,那他在原國籍他們家庭的財產也列入,我相信 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案 |
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他要回去他也不可能嘛 對不對所以造成了很多的這個問題就舉一個這個簡單的例子我們就是要去把它解決嘛所以今天才有這麼多委員提出了這個雖然我們既有的法令都可以規範到也可以幫忙到他們 |
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就是有不足的地方所以今天大家才會這樣那再來我們原住民我們的客家人齁我們都有齁這個比如說長照的機構原住民有文件站客家人有博工站 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民要去哪裡?」審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民要去哪裡?」 |
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委員這樣提醒我覺得我們確實可以好好做一個新住民生活困難的一些調查啦齁那這部分我們來努力齁我們來努力那如果調查完發現真的有問題的地方我們積極跨部會來處理甚至納入行政院的新住民事務協調匯報我們就請院裡面列管就來執行對 |
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市長我要的重點就是這裡啦相關法令其實也都有但是相關法律現在執行起來就是有很多問題發生嘛所以才會有很多委員關心嘛這個我們就是要去解決啦好不好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝紅樓委員的質詢謝謝謝謝花市長您剛剛的回答比較會讓人家聽起來非常舒服一點好不好謝謝繼續我們請黃建斌委員質詢 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 |
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請教一下市長我們整個偵查結果我們使用我們擬具的光電組的組長林文信涉嫌關說涉嫌圖利金額於91億元這個林文信組長沒想到他還在110年獲得模範公文員想請教我們行政院如果就這個相關的這個但依據我們規定我們對被起訴的公務員 |
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這些是不是可以註銷他的模範公務員的資格然後他的獎金、獎座等等這些規定有沒有這個規定應該是經濟部能源署的不是內政部的事情模範公務員的部分那應該都是行政院在這個部分抱歉我可能要了解一下我再跟您報告好嗎人事行政總署編列專門委員在吧今天 |
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張專門委員 |
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請到這邊來謝謝我希望今天與會的官員們因為如果委員有垂詢的部分請你們隨時要進入狀況好不好要好好聽一下委員的質詢他們今天來的質詢都是準備了很多的資料而不是覺得事不關己只讓我們的次長在這邊做回答來請說明 |
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委員好那不好意思我這邊是因為是主編任立初那今天來的話是就那個專責機構的部分那因為剛剛提到公務人員模範工人我有聽到在會場我有聽到我本來是想要賴一下的那我本來想說是不是我們待會準備好了之後我可以再補充報告 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案． |
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市長請市長趕快來處理這件事情因為你看這個很大的統治他是模範公務員然後不久之後他就被起訴這件事情經濟部應該會去處理我們還是回到今天的修法謝謝市長 |
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今天提到關於新住民權益保障法草案。多年來我們各界呼籲政府要比照,包括原民會、客委會、成立新住民委會,行政院並沒有採納,只是決議定期召開跨部會相關事務協調會議,非常可惜,不等於非常支持地方。 |
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其實這個社會還是對於新住民有充滿歧視如果有到比較偏鄉的地方市場可能就會了解有時候用閩南語講起來都不是很正、不是很重視那個外國族、外國族、外國族、外國族其實這是很歧視的話台灣身為一個多元的移民社會我們當然是一個多元的社會我們是一個移民的移民城市 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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OK 那這邊我再次提到就是說我們在部長你有沒有發現其實新住民其實在歧視以外還有一些他的下一代還有一些身心的狀況比如說飲食的障礙這件事情 |
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跟部長報告在111年的時候我們新住民現在學生佔了28.5萬人口他已經佔了全體學生的百分之七巴仙了那因為他被歧視的關係在文化上他是有心理的障礙那這會不會反映在飲食上面那根據我們台大公衛最新研究的報告發現我們新住民的子女比起一般的青少年子女更容易產生這個飲食失序的行為那未來在飲食障礙症的這個風險會更高 |
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審查委員 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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將來會伴隨更多的社會問題我們要付出的社會成本會更大再次呼籲趕快結束完成新住民相關權益的法案我先用這個事實來例行最後本席想要再拜託次長讓我們回到這次0403花蓮地震的這個事情我們花蓮地震我們成立了專業小組來協助跨部會來整合協調然後來推動我們整個花蓮的復興跟重建 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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這部分可能會分階段我想花蓮因為現在主要是災區所以說我們是以災區優先處理當然我們會擴及全國所有縣市後續這些危險建築物海沙屋等等等等的需要補強需要重建當然未來會擴及到全國所有縣市好 謝謝市長也謝謝我們市長的規定 謝謝非常謝謝建兵委員的質詢謝謝市長 謝謝組長 謝謝繼續我們請牛徐廷委員質詢 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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委員好 署長早安今天質詢的部分分成兩個部分來做探討第一部分我們討論一下移民政策第二部分我們再討論一下新住民基本法的正當性我們剛剛在提案說明的時候有提到移民署有統計截至今年3月全台領有政見的外籍 |
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一、新住民人數59萬5千人陸、港、澳配38萬4千人外配陸配再加起來在今年馬上也要突破100萬的這個大關那今年2月的時候委員可能是家子女才會突破反正我們剛剛數字大概就反正100多萬人嘛對不對那今年2月的時候我們也做過政策的對話針對我國的移民政策來做討論 |
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朝向開放,那現在是開放還是保守?我想這個部分最主要是由國發會他來主導,他有一個五首長會議來主導。那和平共榮,互相尊重,文化交流,算開放還算保守?所以這就是我說的,好像什麼都講了,但是好像什麼都沒有講。請問組長,台灣適不適合移民?我們是不是一個大家很想要來這邊定居的幸福的國度? |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案 |
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我想台灣是一個就是說我們的治安很好我們的生活環境也很好我們的這個人民也非常的友善所以你講的是生活的部分自然安全生活穩定對不對對可是我告訴你剛剛有講嘛國發會有寫一個對不對你在討論移民政策的時候都是用國發會的角度來出發國發會要的要的人才是什麼其實 |
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國防會寫的報告,今天這個撰寫者科長今天也在我們的會場,說這個後疫情時代各國的經濟移民政策比較,也就是從國家發展的角度,其實我們需要的是這個專有專業技術的經濟移民啦,因為我們現在面對少子化跟高齡化的雙重衝擊,所以說用經濟移民政策來補貼我國的勞動力缺口, |
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好現在問題就來你剛剛有講說我們這邊吸引大家的地方在於就是說自然很好舒服起來還蠻舒服的對不對可是這跟產業其實沒有什麼直接的關係對不對我們可以看到各國移民政策其實大家講的也都老生常談 |
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大家其實都希望用經濟移民來讓國家的這個產業發展來更加強盛好比說英國因應產業的需求STEM的專業人才新加坡一樣這個是採用科技簽證的方式來處理吸引這個高科技的人才日本希望的是金融外專的人才以及等等但實務上這些國家即便他希望是透過有一個產業經濟移民的角度實際上來說都還是不見得能夠執行到位 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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台灣學生來這邊教育部是有規定在每週20小時之內是准許他們來打工的對啦 准許但是有沒有變黑工的問題變成超額勞動或者是本質上變成來勞動而不是來念書 |
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應該是有的嘛 對不對這教育部也做過調查若干的個案我們今天時間有限是有的嘛 對不對好 國防部的報告講說我們面對這個雙重挑戰希望透過移民政策來解決缺口現在我就問移民署到底我們要不要用開放的移民政策來當成勞動力缺口的解方 |
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政策方向在勞動力方面其實剛委員也有這個說得很清楚了就高階的部分我們其實是有這個外國人才的這個原覽雇用法那在比較低階的藍營人力的部分已經來到了76萬就檢討各產業的需求我們現在講的是移民 |
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就是說你要不要乾脆例如說比照新加坡的模式新加坡的案例就是廣大廣開大門歡迎大家來直接跟全世界講說只要你是好人才都歡迎你來這叫開放的移民政策那顯然我們還沒有走到這個程度對不對但我們又沒有往這條方向走 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法 |
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有請花次長我們今天在討論這個新住民基本法就是因為我覺得這個法案有兩個重大意義第一個叫做宣誓意義宣誓意義就是我們的法條如果有專門的法律法案去保障新住民的權益我們在剛剛花那麼多時間去談移民政策你才可以跟全世界講說我們是重視移民的 |
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我們是重視新住民權益保障的國家這是這個法案的宣誓意義我們都希望說不要被歧視或怎麼樣所以宣誓意義這第一個第二個這法案也不是沒有實質意義 |
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市長你是內政部是天下第一大部對不對各種業務這麼繁重我們也就13、14個對不對內政委員會我們要從這個都市計畫管到警消這個這麼多的事情要討論對不對其實在各個部門都一樣你很難啊就理論上理想中的狀態啊都是各個部門都要重視新住民的權益叫真正的平等可是實務上來說做不到這件事 |
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所以不管是新住民也好、原住民也好等等在少數跟弱勢的族群我們會需要所謂的專職單位就是因為要有個專職單位把這個話語權來做提升在跨部會協調的時候它有它的份量跟重要性它的政策的比重跟關注度才會提升 |
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所以這是這一部法案的實質意義它既有宣示的意義也有實質的意義其實它是有充分的正當性剛剛市長在答詢其他委員的時候講說我們要發現問題解決問題我要告訴市長發現解決問題就像我們提案說明一樣你從106年講到現在也夠了該次要有一部明確的法案要往前走了啦 |
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之前提過新住民保障法這基本草案這本黨之前的立法委員林立禪委員他就講他說我們在社會倡議為了要幫新住民爭取權益我們當然要講好講滿但是講好講滿的用意是要政府提出相對問候的版本然後大家在妥協的過程中前進我就非常認同這樣的概念但是我們這樣去提之後顯然到現在連院版都沒有出來我想這是讓很多新住民好朋友是非常非常失望的 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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徐宇甄委員內政部花次長 |
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委員長市長早我想請教教花市長就是根據您剛的報告來看目前政府的機制就注意保障新住民的各項的權益所以內政部認為不應該制定專法來保障新住民嗎 |
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包委員倒不是說現在的機制足以保障然後結論叫做不需要定而是在說我們怎麼樣來做其實對新住民是比較好的我們要談的是這樣子的一個角度持續努力、持續精進是當然要的剛剛您提到這個部分因為我看你的結論的部分就是說如針對不足之處予以補強與改進較為妥適這是你們的這個部分那請問一下這個是目前內政部的立場嗎 |
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我想其實我們分析看過各國的狀態因為全世界目前我們至少沒有看到任何一個國家像美國、加拿大那麼多移民的國家他們也沒有新住民基本法或新住民權益保障法這樣子的法制所以大家其實都是用行政措施各相關的部會一起努力所以我想這是我們現在看到的狀況那反過來問的就是說定了這個如果要來定這個專法 |
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他實質上是幫了新住民哪些事但是會不會產生哪些副作用這個都要一併來思考是的 剛剛次長提到的就是大概是說現在世界各國並沒有這樣的一個專法出現所以你有沒有調查過就是新住民為什麼希望制定專法給予保障是不是因為現有的保障不足否則的話現有的保障如果像您剛講的這樣的話已經都足夠了新住民或是我們一些委員不會要求提出專法的版本 |
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我理解委員要來協助新住民這個善意我完全理解那當然這背後就是說我們的路徑要怎麼選擇嘛一種是我剛剛其實剛剛委員在提的時候我有講那我們是不是來調查一下新住民其實在生活或各種事務底下遭遇到的困難我們再做一次完整的多一點的盤點我們再來看因為我知道好像內政部一直都有做這樣子的一個嘛就對新住民他到底他面對的困難是什麼 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會 |
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其實新住民法草案基金的部分我們可以看到大概在去年110年跟111年撥補了5億進去112年到113年撥補4億就是希望基金規模能夠維持在10億但是我們點到考核作業這個項目可以發覺完全都沒有資料 |
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請問一下,內政部是不考核新住民的發展基金如何使用嗎?還是問題太多不敢上網?不是,我想請同仁說明一下。因為時間的關係,是不是可以會後再把這個相關的資料。這個不會,我們再把資料給他,我們也趕快上網把它說明清楚。 |
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還有就是針對我們再點進去看一下就是新住民的發展基金的多元文化推廣跟相關的宣導計畫我們可以看到電視網站跟影片內的這幾年來我們看到的不是三立就是民視兩家電視得標所以這個部分不曉得有什麼樣特別的意義讓都是三立跟民視得標所以可能你可以看一下我們有整理出來的這個 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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新住民培率發展資訊網最新一期更新資料2023年8月8日 |
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案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第11屆第2會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第1會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員會第 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,本席就認為因為沒有落實這六步人權的國內法化,才會有制定新住民基本法的呼聲出現。那既然沒有做到的部分,你們有改進嗎?還有上個禮拜,4月12日我們才針對ISER有一個國際審查會議,就是我們目前台灣的這些作為是不是都有符合國際公約,那這次審查的結果是如何?有沒有需要改進的地方? |
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審查委員這部分行政院都會列管那各部會針對符合這六大公約相關的法律都在盤點那進一步的資料如果需要的話我們再整理一下請次長再移分給本市辦公室因為目前看起來我們其實有很多地方是沒有做到的包括說我們這邊提到的就是在ISAC的這個條約的專要文件第36頁143條指出按照兩岸的條例 |
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政府長期關注中國大陸配偶需求並致力提升其權益但是國家人權委員會針對這份報告的平行回覆卻指出放寬新住民在台拘留規定時需並同考量台灣地區、大陸地區人民關係條例的大陸港澳新住民的在台定居跟拘留相關規定以符合ISR平等不歧視的精神所以說我們現在有做到這樣嗎? |
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這題大家討論了很多因為入港澳跟外籍的規定有不同但是站在人權平權的立場我們還是希望針對國家人權委員會提出 |
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而且在109年6月底的兩公約國家報告當時的蘇貞昌前院長還特別發表這份報告就指到說未來我們的兩公約國家報告第239點強調大陸配合來台取得身份證的年限調整為與外籍配合一致以凝聚兩岸關係條例第17條的修正草案上代立法院完成立法程序 |
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那目前都還沒有送到立法院來是嗎? |
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這個我們可以跟陸委會再來做溝通對 因為這個是記載你們的國家報告我覺得應該是要對社會國際負責應該要盡快的來送立法院謝謝委員關心 謝謝好 謝謝余政委員的質詢謝謝組長 謝謝組長 謝謝繼續我們請美惠委員國主委來質詢謝謝我們在這個李博義委員質詢結束我們休息五分鐘好嗎 謝謝 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第12屆第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第12會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第12會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第12會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件,審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案 |
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有65%是來自中國的,對不對? |
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是。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是來自台灣的。審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具有65%是 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院第11屆第1會期內 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案。 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案。 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 |
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6937.854 |
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6960.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 |
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其實倒沒有說特別嚴或特別寬而是兩邊的定的標準不盡一致所以過去會希望說我兩邊都要選最好的就是這種爭議我會覺得這樣的事情大家彼此多溝通多討論因為它涉及到的法制不同的法系 |
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| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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7011.055 |
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7011.435 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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7032.244 |
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案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
7062.544 |
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7065.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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7073.273 |
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7089.344 |
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委員剛剛我們已經說明了就是說他依據的這個法源不同權利義務也不同其實待的這個時間比如說外國的這個外國人的部分4天其實1天是要待335天連續居住在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
7096.869 |
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大陸的部分其實今年是173天,沒有天氣,其實它的設計又有不同,所以全立議會也是沒有天氣,這是兩岸條例,這是移民法,所以國際法,所以國有不同。 |
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7116.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
審查委員 |
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案。 也涉及到他個人意願,或是以母國的資產問題、保險等等,所以很難說好壞。主席,抱歉,還有9分鐘,謝謝。在這裏面,我認為我們今天已經啟出討論,我們如果有問題,說得清楚,尤其在他的經歷,他如果來我們這裡, |
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7180.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障法草案件事宜與新住民權益保障 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障 |
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審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保� |
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一個完整的基本法但其實在國外任何注重人權的國家早就已經把這樣的基本法都已經訂好了所以我覺得不是說現在還要討論說我們是不是還要先一條一條列出解決事項才回頭訂這個基本法這是一個態度的問題 |
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臺灣已經超過60萬人新住民成長速度非常快內政部有新住民照顧服務措施政策韓國在2007年訂了《外國人處遇基本法》 |
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內容包括人權保障、生活適應的支持、友善的環境、反歧視等重要規定早就定在裡面了。每5年他們就會提出外國人基本政策的計劃方針。 |
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7320.878 |
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7330.361 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會議．立法院第11屆第2會 |
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審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審查委員審 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
7370.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
7384.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
7384.316 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
7401.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
7405.528 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
現在實質面其實各部會也都在做當然我覺得這個組織到底要怎麼劃分這個其實都可以在主條的時候再討論那我現在希望部裡要有一個態度就是說因為我們這些原則定出來是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
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7444.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
承諾我們非常廣納所有新住民來台灣融入台灣的社會我覺得這是一個基本的態度啦現在不要一直進到細節說我們到底要不要有什麼專責機構然後哪一個專責機構其實不是這樣的那我講一下其實國際上有一個評比就是有一個移民融合政策的指標那有很多的人權國家都有被評比那其實台灣在這個評比裡面結果只有42分 |
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7448.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案． |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
7468.682 |
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7484.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
新住民生活調查來台灣8年多的一個泰國的配偶他本來面試都已經錄取了可是他拿出居留證上面居留證有加註說這個持證的人工作不需經過不需要申請工作的許可但是還是被公司拒絕了 |
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7485.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
7489.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
這是實際發生過的案例所以代表說台灣的這個就業市場其實對於外國人對於新住民來台灣即便都已經有這樣的認證了但是他還是在就業市場上非常的不友善那當然還有很多例如說 |
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| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
有些新住民有提到說因為我們在這個社會救助法的資格審查必須要包括職業寫清的收入需要提供無撫養能力證明才能排除不然會算出他的虛擬所得所以有些新住民他還要請他的母國的父母到很遠的市中心去準備他的文件然後公證然後翻譯之後再拿過來再提供給我們有這樣的經驗那變成說我覺得這些其實都對他們來說都有一點過頭了 |
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7533.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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7547.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
7552.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
這個問題其實也很多人講過了就是說撤銷國籍它是一個牽涉他身份的變動當然要很謹慎虛偽結婚牽涉到的是偽造文書但是如果有些人他犯的不是偽造文書甚至是更嚴重的犯罪行為但是他取得這個國籍規劃五年之後他還是不用撤銷國籍 |
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7586.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．審查委員羅美玲等 |
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審查委員 |
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當然我還是希望因為會變成說大家特別針對這件事情因為何謂假結婚這個其實結婚的目的有非常多重的原因因為你們現在判斷他是不是假結婚其實是用他事後來看當初這個婚姻是不是虛偽的我覺得你們在判斷這個標準上其實有很多很多的檢討空間當然我們會檢討這個可以回去再討論一下以上謝謝 |
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審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
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市長好市長好市長好市長好市長好市長好市長好市長好市長好市長好市長好 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案． 新住民權益保障法草案． 新住民權益保障法草案案。 |
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案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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案。 審查委員 |
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案。 審查委員 |
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我相信我們市長、我們團隊、我們這個新住民,你也覺得這也是這麼有重要性。請一個單位,請你講的,要看會議,要來溝通。請你講, |
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審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件的主題是什麼?」審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件的主題是什麼?」審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件的主題是什麼?」審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件的主題是什麼?」 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．事由．新住民權益保障法草案．事由．新住民權益保障法草案．事由 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民基本法草案》案。 《新住民基本法草案》案。 |
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這問題經常會發生,我們就是代表我們這個翻譯的人員不足,一旦有問題警察局裡面也需要監護的翻譯,當勞工的問題也要有勞工的翻譯,日理和書翻譯裡面也需要翻譯,裡面牽涉到國國會。 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件及其根據、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及其根據、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及其根據、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及其根據、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及其根據、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及其根據、審查委員羅美 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項與新住民權益保障法草案案件事項 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事項：短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短短� |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 |
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上個禮拜本來要跟你討論一些住宅的政策今天馬上就是跟你討論這個我覺得有一點點移民政策的味道但是是為了新住民的權益來討論這個新住民的這個基本法或者是權益法 |
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臺灣這個社會上對於新住民的存在他們的權益或他們的基本權益 |
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是不是應該要在我們這邊來做一個嚴肅的討論但是我們先就一點就身份來討論的話也有很多委員的版本到底現在在台灣新住民人口有多少我們要怎麼定義那未來這個新住民基本法或者是新住民權益法它保障到多少人我們先來做一個討論 |
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審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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審查委員 |
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甚至他們跟我們政府單位剛剛很多其他委員在講的比如說我們新住民媽媽去到區公所或者是上網沒有看到那些表格其實在男子區我們那些地方其實非常的多服務非常的好那我們政府要做的是什麼 |
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大家希望什麼?希望說,比如說這個新住民媽媽或新住民家庭他去到、去公所他需要什麼樣的服務的時候,我們可以給予什麼樣的服務,包含語言 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件,包括文字表格等等。」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,包括文字表格等等。」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,包括文字表格等等。」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,包括文字表格等等。」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件,包括文字表格等等。」審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草 |
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例如說好再進一步講比如說這個很多辛酸可能這個其他委員都有收到一些陳情他們遇到緊急狀況的時候要打個電話要打去哪裡有沒有人隨時可以協助到我們有1995是24小時7種語言都在附近的時候路徑的時候都已經有做這些相關的宣導但是還要加強啦今天的目的就是說還要加強啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
我想最後再跟花次討論一個有趣的議題就是面對少子化、面對高房價少子化跟高房價很奇怪、很弔詭都反方向但是少子化有一個目前我知道教育部已經在推動可能高中、大學都會有一些可能我們會來自東南亞甚至其他國家的學生進來我們大學並且放寬他們可以建教的時數 |
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| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
未來他可能是我們移民署的可能會進入我們這個移民政策的範圍之一或是請問你對這一個政策方向的看法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
我想透過在台灣受教育進而跟台灣社會相融合這是一個很棒的移民切入的角度所以很可能這個方向我們在未來幾年會繼續來進進我尊重教育部因為這個部分不是我們內政部的但是你說是很棒的移民政策我也覺得很好這個我們會樂觀其成會繼續的來推動會繼續的看有什麼方式可以來推動 |
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案,大量引進可能這個大概在高中大學階段各國優秀的人才可以進入到台灣變成台灣未來的可能是高階人才這個是我們可以一起來努力的方向最後有一個目前我們對於中國的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
中國新住民或美國、英國、日本等新住民的高階學歷認證請教育部中生教育司司長及外交部條約法律司 |
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| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
有有有終生教育司司長終生教育司司長謝謝來我簡述一下我快速的說明一下我的問題就是說目前包含中國跟美英的這些可能新住民他們來到台灣他們的學歷認證那對於中國以及美日德等 |
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我們其實是直接去發函去給我們的外使單位,那就可以獲得認證,但是很多來自東南亞包含泰國、越南、緬甸等等是無法獲得這個服務,那我們有沒有相關可以協助的地方? |
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| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
除了大陸的部份我們有交易部高教師有委託學校來進行學歷採認外國的部份都是由各大學來辦理學歷採認的事情 |
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| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
東南亞很多國家也需要我們這樣相關的服務請教育部跟外交部也做這些相關的聯繫報告委員我們所有的國家包含東南亞還有歐美國家我們都會提供這樣的服務沒有問題謝謝謝謝博弈委員子詢謝謝次長跟署長教育部的代表我們現在休息5分鐘待會繼續開會謝謝 |
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好,我們現在開始質詢。大家都回過位子上了嗎?好,請中嘉賓、中嘉賓、中嘉賓委員不在。張智倫委員質詢。好,謝謝。好,謝謝主席、各位官員、各位委員。大家早安、大家好。有請次長。 |
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8971.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
有請文化次長財務委員好次長早安今天本席非常開心有機會來針對這個新住民基本法的修法草案來請教次長那也希望說這個次長這邊趕快先第一個還是要先提出正院的版本然後讓這個新住民基本法可以加強來推動那次長也跟您報告一下根據國際的資料統計 |
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8973.214 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
8989.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案 |
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8989.876 |
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9004.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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9004.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
9021.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、新住民基金法草案案件、 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
9023.873 |
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9041.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
當時在彰化有一個新住民的新二代被認為是移工結果被警察毆打的一個舉動當時讓新住民圈覺得非常的震驚那當然我相信後續政府部門有做一些處置的部分市長怎麼看這件事情? |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
9064.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
我想確實這涉及到多方面的問題那我覺得當然該改進的我們絕對改進那特別是這個所長或警察局的這樣一個作為其實不管他是移工還是新住民實際上我們都應該要善待啦而不應該是說因為他是移工所以可以這樣我想不可以移工也不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
9065.347 |
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9068.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
9082.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
9110.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
這邊首先要請教次長一些問題有關於剛剛很多委員提到的這新住民的學歷問題尤其東南亞的部分那就本席得知像越南的部分好像只承認台灣只承認大學以上的學歷那因為很多新住民他們過去可能因為生活的一些問題有些大學的只有念高中國中所以學歷承認的部分是不是請這個次長部分要來協助還有印尼的部分好像有相對應同樣的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
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9132.192 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
那柬埔寨的部分更是缺乏,聽說柬埔寨所有的這個文件,台灣當局都不承認。那所以他們基本上會,我相信會部分的會阻礙他們想要來台灣來當新住民的一個問題。那這個部分是不是請次長稍微分享一下說,怎麼樣來協助他們有關於學歷取得的部分。 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
9132.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
9150.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
報告委員這個事情在行政院的新住民事務協調會報其實都陸陸續續在處理那如果還有遺漏我們發現的後續還是會提報來處理現階段本質上都會認證就是說不是只有大學或是高中也不會基本上這個部分都會做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
9150.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
9162.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬 |
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9167.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
9168.219 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
9193.692 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
9202.416 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
9217.862 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
9219.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
9246.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
9249.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
9271.634 |
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9272.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
9283.491 |
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9309.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
這個我們可能要跟勞動部或衛福部再去了解一下這個狀況不好意思因為內政部就沒有補助到這一個部分那最後還有一個最重要的重點我們最近很多的緬甸的留學生一年大概將近三、四千人來台灣最近一直在討論他們在當地健檢的一個問題在緬甸當地只有一家的健檢中心那因為緬甸 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
9310.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
9325.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
有3000多他們每次這些留學生要來台灣留學或遊學的部分他們都要去跟旅行業者排一個將近一個禮拜的行程所以舟車勞頓所以我們現在有請新光醫院請衛福部這邊來協助是不是可以多規劃幾個健檢的中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
9328.42 |
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9352.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
這部分本期從4月15日我相信已經有去函這個緬甸辦事處的部分是不是可以積極來協調今天兩個禮拜都還沒有消息我們再跟衛福部跟外交部來聯繫確認再跟委員回報最後一點抱歉主席再給我一分鐘再問一個問題就可以了最後一個問題我看那個新住民發展基金的部分每年編列預算大概多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
9354.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
9355.545 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
9373.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
9385.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
9396.718 |
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9410.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人� |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
9412.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
9413.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
9427.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
9427.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
張智倫委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
9447.731 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
9448.131 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
主席、各位委員、請次長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
9477.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
9506.224 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件,在內政委員會不是第一次討論,在上一屆的時候也有討論過。」審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,在內政委員會不是第一次討論,在上一屆的時候也有討論過。」審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,在內政委員會不是第一次討論,在上一屆的時候也有討論過。」審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件,在內政委員會不是第一次討論,在上一屆的時候也有討論過。」審查委員羅美玲等18 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
9506.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
9534.543 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
案。 至今年3月底,我國婚姻移民人數共計59萬5千多,將近60萬,加上子女47萬多,真的是超過100萬。之所以立法院會有這樣的提案,就表示現在的法例, |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
9535.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
9563.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
案,顯然是不足的。所以這個部分在這個內政部或是其他相關部會的報告裡面就必須要就真的現在的法律已經有哪些規定啊如果有不足哪些不足啊來來去來去而不是說啊這個還還沒有還不需要定啊像人事行政總署馬上常常用那條 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
9565.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
9565.274 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
案。 審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
9594.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
9617.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
還有委員會改來改去的都有 一下子國科會 一下子又科技部 一下又改回來 原子能委員會又改來改去當然就是因為他有他的需要 所以這個部分未來要很具體的計較到底應該要怎麼樣去 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
9617.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
9618.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
案。 審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
9633.084 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
9633.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
案。 審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
9653.466 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
9669.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保� |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
9676.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
9699.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
也不是說定了新住民基本法好像問題就解決了我想也不可能所以說怎麼樣把這件事情做得比較到位問題點到底在哪邊而反而避免去徒增一些新的爭議啦就像說新住民怎麼定義他的對象和範圍但是即使界定了那他離他不是什麼時候叫就好像說齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
9700.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
9703.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
9721.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
9749.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
9750.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
9777.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
以現在的規模、人數的成長來說事實上是要檢討的因為這個部分的規模、金額都顯然是應該有所不足大家才會說是不是弄一個基本法才會更好是會有這樣的所以你們要一個整體的因為這必定是一個台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
9779.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
9805.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
9806.297 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
9807.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
9836.144 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
9853.228 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
非常謝謝鄭天才委員的質詢,也謝謝次長跟署長,謝謝。好,繼續我們請張家俊,張家俊,張家俊委員不在,繼續請吳祁銘召委質詢。來,要不要稍稍困一下。好,謝謝。好,主席,我們一位同仁,請移民署署長, |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
9865.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
9867.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
移民署中署長今天我們原住民基本法修正21條草案但是根據移民署去年統計台灣新住民已經超過59萬那大專院院生 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
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案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查 |
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因此本席也應訂定專法保障他們的權益讓他們也更能融入台灣的社會請問署長你的看法呢? |
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就如同剛剛我們內政部次長也都跟前面幾位委員說明了那目前是有機制在做這個照顧服務的一個措施那至於說我們是不是要再訂一個專法來做保就是更周圍的保障我想這個是可以檢討的啦 |
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好 謝謝因為現在我們的新住民的人口是真的成長的速度太過驚人那針對我們新住民的學生就已經佔了一半有28萬5千人 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件, 與新住民權益保障法草案案件, 與新住民權益保障法草案案件, 與新住民權益保障法草案案件, 與新住民權益保障法草案案件, 與新住民權益保障法草案案件, 與新住民權益保障法草案案件, |
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現行我們從4月1號以後有做一個提高比如說在公共事務通益的費用我們前兩個小時就以1000元來計算那第三個小時期就500元月間我們再跟他加倍這個都有已經有做這個逐步的一個調升跟委員做報告 |
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我認為我們也應該對家庭這方面的觀念讓大家了解。不可以說出家相關,因為大家要住,所以不可以結婚,因為我們都在說很多負面的事情。 |
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新住民基本法草案 |
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新住民的定義已經目前的人員10年內增加10萬現在的總人數大概60萬如果再包括新住民的家庭成員、子女超過百萬超過百萬在我們台灣難道我們不重視他嗎? |
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當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理當然要處理 |
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你輔導他們什麼?告訴我。我們其實是看他的需求啦。你比如說他要就業或是怎麼樣,其實我們在各地我們都有一個新住民家庭服務中心嘛。那我們的服務站也有所謂的這個新住民家庭網絡,來我們來協助他們。只要他們有需求,我們也有個案的一個管制、協助。其實做的就是說只要新住民他有需求,有 |
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譬如說他們遭受到家暴他們的工作權益你們出來上課上完課你怎麼輔導他你怎麼輔導他你們的輔導成功率有多少你們一年的KPI要怎麼樣協助他們有多少 |
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跟署長在這裡準總統賴清德自己的政見就包括建立國家級統一通益制度規劃培訓課程認證考試通益費用及相關的規範等等請問母姐你們的規劃是什麼現在已經在做了現在已經在做了而且在通益的經濟和清水的提高都已經今年都開始了所以本席再請教因為包括黑戶寶寶的問題 |
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所以主席站起來本席要再一次的請教市長你代表內政部署長你在這裡你支不支持這個法案我們支持幫新住民照顧得更好讓他們生活更好但是方案上面我們可以討論方案上面可以討論我沒有支持或不支持如果它比較好我們當然支持那你們行政院什麼時候版本要來 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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10763.977 |
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法定人數不足 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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現在兩岸條例針對大陸配偶取得我們的身份是用戶籍來做處理所以外配跟陸配適用的法是不一樣的外配適用國籍法陸配適用兩岸條例 |
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10830.277 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保� |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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10852.132 |
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10858.963 |
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移民署4月26日公告消除一切形式種族歧視國際公約國際審查結論性意見與建議出爐 |
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10887.435 |
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請問依照行政院防制人口販運及消除種族歧視協調會報設置要點是由移民署署長來擔任執行秘書縱禮匯報有關作業是不是?請回答是或不是?是是是那請問署長這個公約重不重要? |
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10888.916 |
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中央法規涉及違反ICERD之餘的優先檢視清單。裡面列管的法規有26項。 |
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涉及的機關包含了原民會、內政部、教育部、法務部、NCC、工程會、農業部、文化部、司法院、權序部以及國防部11個機關解除劣管也就是說完成修正的只有3項完成率只有10%今年3月20也才將法規檢視會議記錄上網公開這個歷經這麼多年了整個完成率只有10% |
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10952.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
委員應該不是這樣子講這個是我們在有一個推動ISIS的推動計畫裡面我們去檢視說各部會的相關法令有疑慮的才放出來那現在在我們這兩年當中很多有完成的那這一次 因為我們是第一次的國家報告 |
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10960.842 |
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10968.527 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 |
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11016.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
中署長本席要請問我們現在大家在關心原住民、新住民我們台灣地區人民受到各種歧視的情況是否嚴重?是否?都有各案啦!那截至目前為止居住在台灣地區的人民受歧視申訴審議案件有多少? |
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11018.177 |
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11045.9 |
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當目前為止從97年到目前為止本署受理的有36件對這36件你覺得算多不多不多嘛因為97年到113年這樣有6年了6年了36件但是本席要告訴你這個所謂的申訴是要在兩個月內以中文還有書面為之對不對 |
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11048.135 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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11052.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
11070.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 〈新住民權益保障法草案案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 〉審查委員 |
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11079.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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11095.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
11107.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案 案件 、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案件 、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案件 、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案件 、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案件 、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案件 、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民 |
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11116.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
11134.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
11152.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民 |
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是 我們目前是我們的難民法是還沒有這個這個完成啦過去雖然有曾經在先前的會議以後有提過我們現在是依循國際的這個這個公約的這個精神啦做個案的一個處理啦 |
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11185.885 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
11207.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
11218.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
蘇清泉蘇清泉委員不在黃孟凱黃孟凱黃孟凱委員不在鄭振泉鄭振泉鄭振泉委員不在賴世寶賴世寶賴世寶委員不在請羅美玲委員質詢謝謝主席有請移民署中署長 |
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11258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
今天非常感謝主席排審跟新住民有關的權益保障專法的審查本席從馬來西亞來台灣就學、就業、落地生跟組織家庭 |
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| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
11283.289 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
我也是一位新住民那深刻的體認到廣大新住民群體跟外籍人士在台生活所面臨的一些挑戰那其中橫跨了語言、醫療、教育、就業、文化等各種面向其實我在上一屆的時候就已經就新住民權益保障的部分跟行政單位做了很多很多的 |
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11283.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
審查委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
11326.668 |
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我們居然還是看不到院辦我真的很想問一句到底院辦什麼時候要出來畢竟從上一屆討論到現在我一直認為說行政單位應該要送院辦進來我想知道你們的困難點到底在哪裡 |
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11354.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
這個部分如同剛剛次長也已經有做一些說明了其實我們也都不斷的在努力精進那現有的機制也處理過很多的問題我想委員也擔任過我們的這個協調會報的委員在早先還沒到立法院之前也當過我們的這個協調會報的委員那其實我們現有的機制也都處理了很多的事情那也跨部會 |
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| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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案。 審查委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
新住民不管是說基本法也好或權益保障法我認為這四國家非常重大的法案只有委員版沒有院版我真的覺得這個說不過去所以我們想說你們到底有沒有院版如果說有院版只是說有些地方有些定義必須釐清本席可以接受就好像新住民的法定定義到底是什麼到現在沒有一個結論 |
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11456.456 |
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案。 早期的所謂的新住民我們都是認為就是婚姻移民可是後來我們有依照人才專法我們有高階人才因為高階人才入籍這算不算新住民那還有我們所謂的中階技術移工這個以後入籍算不算新住民到底這個定義在哪裡我們到現在沒有一個法律的這個定義那行政大會到目前為止也沒有給我們一個合理的解釋到底新住民到底含了哪些人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
所以我在想說要討論OK 可以可是不能放著委員板都出來了你們到現在還沒有動作這是讓我沒有辦法接受的地方新住民定例可以找我們幾個委員我也好 蔓越洲委員也好我們都是新住民我們可以來討論可是目前我們好像連這個討論都沒有所以我們真的不曉得行政院的態度到底是什麼看起來不支持可是就是沒有院板出來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
所以我就希望就是說這個行政單位你們真的不要在那邊拖我真的希望說面板出來大家一起討論我覺得這才是對這個重大法案的一個尊重好 以上謝謝好 非常謝謝羅美玲委員的諮詢謝謝 謝謝組長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
11526.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
登記發言的委員除了不在場之外其他的都已經發言結束了我們的詢答也結束然後未及答覆的部分請相關單位在一週之內以書面答覆並複製本會現在由本會委員協商共識因為招委也在請議事人員宣讀內容 |
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11530.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
11555.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
海洋保育法草案之審查依據內政委員會第8次全體委員會議決議要求海洋委員會海洋保育署應於一個月內辦理5場公聽會時進入條文審查。縣海保署已於高雄、彰化、澎湖、花蓮及台東辦理公聽會完結。為求立法周延,原請海洋保育署於北部地區新增一場公聽會,邀請相關部會官員、專家學者、漁民及原住民部落代表傾聽意見納入建言。加開這公聽會不便跟原決議。 |
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11584.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
委員會之立法進程人議員決議得進入主條審查宣讀完畢好 請問各位委員有沒有意見沒有好 謝謝召委我們就請海洋保育署在北部地區新增一場公聽會我們中午就不休息我們繼續開會然後我們現在進行法案的審查請宣讀討論事項所有的版本還有條文已經修正動議一併宣讀宣讀完畢我們進行協商 |
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11613.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
討論事項一法名稱臺灣民眾黨黨團國民黨黨團委員張智倫等18人及委員蘇巧慧等26人提案法名稱均為新住民基本法委員羅美玲等22人提案法名稱為新住民權益保障法第一條臺灣民眾黨黨團為落實憲法保障我國多元文化精神保障新住民之基本權益並對其教育文化衛生醫療社會福利與參政等各項公民權益予以輔助與保障並促其發展及族群融合 |
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| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
11629.137 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
建立共存共融之族群關係特制定本法國民黨黨團擬具委員張智倫等18人提案為落實憲法保障多元文化精神保障新住民之基本權益並對其教育文化衛生醫療及社會福利予以保障輔助並促其發展及族群融合特制定本法 |
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11648.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
委員羅美玲等22人提案為保障新住民之基本權益提高在台新住民之生活品質並促進其發展特制定本法委員蘇巧慧等26人提案為落實憲法保障多元文化精神保障新住民之基本權益協助其融入我國社會建立共存共融之族群關係特制定本法第二條台灣民眾黨黨團及國民黨黨團提案 |
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11677.205 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
案。 本法所稱新住民如下:「一、指配偶為台灣地區人民而其為外國人、五國籍人、大陸地區人民及香港、澳門居民以規劃成為本國國民或以依台灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例定居者。二、一、入出國籍移民法第23條取得外僑居留證者。三、一、入出國籍移民法第25條取得外僑居留證者。」委員張智倫等18人提案。 續文為本法所稱新住民定義如下:「其與同國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團提案。」 |
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11680.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
11709.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
委員羅美玲等22人提案本法所稱新住民定義如下一、一入出國籍移民法外國專業人才延攬及僱傭法香港澳門關係條例或台灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例在台居留、永久居留、長期居留或定居在我國合法連續居留超過三年者二、一國籍法以規劃為我國國民者三、本條第1項外籍供定義只從事就業服務法第46條第1項第8款至第11款所定工作並持有內政部移民署所發給有效外 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
11710.132 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
11733.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
桥居留證至外國人委員蘇巧慧等26人提案本法所稱新住民定義如下一、一國籍法規劃為我國國民者二、配偶為我國國民至外國人或國籍人大陸地區人民及香港澳門居民或以一條地區與大陸地區人民關係條例定居者三、一入出國籍移民法第23條取得外橋居留證或第25條取得外橋永久居留證者第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
11734.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
11762.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
案。第三條,台灣民眾黨黨團提案國民黨黨團提案及委員張智倫等18人提案。第三條,本法之保障對象為具有新住民身份者及其子女。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第四條,行政院應設置新住民委員會以統籌規劃研究諮詢協調推動促進新住民就業、就學、培力、關懷、協助及多元服務相關事宜。國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案。前段改為行政院應設置新住民事務委員會其餘同台灣民眾黨黨團提案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
11764.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
11791.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
委員羅美玲等22人提案第三條行政院應設置新住民專責機關以統籌規劃研究諮詢協調推動促進新住民及其子女就學就業賠利關懷協助及多元服務等新住民支持相關事宜前向專責機關之組織另一法律定制其組成應助於新住民之比例委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第三條行政院應設置新住民委員會其組織及相關事務另一法律定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
11792.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
11819.419 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
臺灣民眾黨黨團國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案第五條。前條委員會設立前行政院為審議協調本法相關事務涉及各目的事業主管機關執掌者必要時得召開跨部會首長會議會同各目的事業主管機關辦理。委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第四條。前條委員會設立前行政院應設新住民會報研議協調及推動本法相關事務。前項會報之組成任務及其他應遵行事將由行政院定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
11820.299 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
11839.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案第6條本法所稱主管機關在中央為新住民委員會在直轄市為直轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府直轄市與縣市政府應設新住民單一服務窗口提供新住民居住、醫療、就學、就業、輔助、司法、經濟、文化、族群融合等多元服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
11840.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
11858.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
國民黨黨團擬具委員張智倫等18人提案第6條本法所稱主管機關在中央為新住民事務委員會在直轄市為直轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府直轄市與縣市政府應設置新住民行政局提供新住民就學就業輔助經濟活動文化族群融合等多元服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
11859.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
11884.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第5條直轄市縣市政府應設置新住民專責單位或專人提供新住民就學、就業、社會救助、經濟活動、文化發展、族群融合等多元服務委員羅美玲等22人提案第4條政府應每年針對我國新住民總體支持事項檢討並改進其內容應包括以下事項一、我國新住民支持政策之基本方向二、我國新住民支持政策於各領域中之具體措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
11885.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
11901.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
案。 三、相關具體措施之成效分析。 四、新住民支持經費增來源與分配。 五、其他新住民支持相關事項。 言語制定或檢討新住民支持具體措施時,得邀集相關學者、專家及民間團體代表列寫陳述意見。 委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第7條。 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
11902.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
11918.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
第七條新住民委員會應擬定新住民事務及發展計劃經行政院核定作為直轄市縣市政府推動新住民事務之依據前向計劃之擬定應考量新住民之特殊性與權益並每四年檢討修正委員羅美玲等22人提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
11919.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
11933.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
為研擬制定或檢討相關支持事項政府1年5年進行調查擬定計劃並將調查結果公開於網路委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第8條為研擬前條所定新住民事務及發展計劃政府1年2年進行新住民社會經濟調查並將調查結果公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
11936.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
11959.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案第七條政府未培立新住民基本推動本法第十條、第十一條、第十四條、第十五條以及第十七條之事務與獎勵措施應設置新住民發展基金且基金之運用辦法由新住民委員會定之前項基金來源於中央政府循預算程序之撥款、民間捐款與相關法令規定之撥款及其他收入等充值國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
11961.818 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
11983.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
案。 第3後段之新住民委員會修正為新住民事務委員會取於同台灣民眾黨黨團提案。 委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第6條為推動新住民與其子女及家庭照顧輔導服務人力資源培訓及發展建構多元文化社會有效整合政府及民間資源特設之新住民發展基金新住民發展基金收支保管及運用辦法由行政院定制。 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
11984.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
11998.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
委員羅美玲等22人提案第6條政府應提供多元文化及語言之教育與宣導以增進民眾對不同文化之尊重與理解委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第10條政府應尊重新住民之語言民俗節清文化藝術及價值觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
11999.841 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
12027.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案第八條,為國家考試增訂新住民事務相關類科,以因應新住民公務之需求,有助於提升政府機關對新住民事務的重視,增進公務人員對新住民事務的專業之能,促進新住民融入台灣社會。國民黨黨團提案第八條,為加強新住民文化及產業傳承與發揚,政府應設北中南東新住民文化重點發展區,前向重點發展區應任用一定比例之新住民導覽人員,介紹與推廣新住民語言以及文化, |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
12027.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
12048.117 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
案。 其任用辦法由主管機關定之。 前日向業務與本法第4條委員會設立前之施行應協調與民主配合辦理。 政府應與國家考試增訂新住民事務相關類課以應新住民公務之需求。 委員張智倫等18人提案。 第二項後段之任用辦法修正為任用規則。 其餘同國民黨黨團提案。 委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第9條。 同國民黨黨團提案第8條第4項並著作文字修正。 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
12055.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
12077.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
第九條,台灣民眾黨黨團、國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案。第九條,政府應辦理新住民語言之認證與學習,建立新住民語言資料庫,鼓勵新住民語言研究發展及人才培育。政府應提供獎勵措施結合各級學校、家庭與社區推動新住民語言及華語語言學習,並提供新住民子女特殊教育協助。委員羅美玲等22人提案第九條。 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
12078.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
12106.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
案。 對於在台之新住民家庭政府應提供家庭諮詢、婚姻教育、育兒教育等服務並於各縣市設置家庭服務中心。對於前項家庭之子女政府應提供輔導措施以協助其適應學校生活並避免遭受歧視。委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第14條。第一項同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第9條這第一項。第二項為政府應提供獎勵措施結合各級學校家庭與社區推動新住民語言及我國語言學習並提供新住民子女教育協助。 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
12107.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
12124.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
案。 第10條,台灣民眾黨黨團、國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案。 第10條,政府應獎勵新住民學術研究、鼓勵大學院校設立新住民學術相關系所學位學成、發展及後製新住民知識體系,前向所培立之新住民事務人才政府應建立人才資料庫,統整規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
12126.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
12144.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
事材運用委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第15條通國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團提案第10條第一項。第11條台灣民眾黨黨團國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案第11條政府機關構處理新住民15因使新住民得以其語言陳述意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
12144.665 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
12164.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
各該政府及官構必要時應聘請通譯傳譯職委員羅美玲等22人提案第8條政府應盡力提供普遍專業之翻譯及通譯服務為達成前項目標政府應建立統一之通譯人員培訓及職業制度委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第12條後段修正為必要時並提供該語言之通譯服務其餘同國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團提案第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
12168.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
12189.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
委員羅美玲等22人提案第7條政府應提供新住民在我國生活所需之基本資訊包含教育、文化、衛生、醫療及社會福利等並鼓勵其接受社會適應教育、職業教育培訓以及中文教育等課程前項課程之辦理應注意偏遠地區或經濟狀況不佳新住民之上課門檻第一項之鼓勵得以獎勵或其他方法為之委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
12191.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
12218.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
政府應提供新住民在我國生活所需之基本資訊包含教育、文化生活、就業、衛生醫療及社會福利等並辦理社會適應教育、職業教育培訓以及中文教育等課程。前項課程之實施辦法由行政院定之。第12條台灣民眾黨黨團、國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案。第12條政府應推動新住民與其母國聯結之措施以促進新住民與母國間經濟、社會、文化、宗教及學術等事項之交流合作。 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
12218.669 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
12229.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
委員羅美玲等22人提案第11條政府應推動第7條、第9條及其他支援政策時應努力提供多語言服務委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第16條同國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團提案第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
12233.666 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
12259.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
案。 第13條台灣民眾黨黨團國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案。 第13條政府應鼓勵公民營機構辦理新住民就業服務提供就業諮詢職場諮詢就業聯合及輔導新住民取得專名職業資格及技術式證照保障其就業機會及工作權益。 委員羅美玲等22人提案第13條政府得以獎勵補助或其他方式協助民間團體辦理新住民支持計劃。 委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第17條同國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團提案第13條。 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
12267.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
12283.955 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
案。 政府應提供新住民公懷協助並對弱勢新住民應給予輔助政府對新住民參加社會保險或使用醫療資源無力承擔者應予補助委員羅美玲等20人提案。 政府應提供弱勢至新住民相關社會救助及醫療補助委員蘇巧慧等26人提案。 同國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團提案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
12289.608 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
12307.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
第15條台灣民眾黨黨團提案政府應保障新住民傳播及媒體經用權設立全國性新住民廣播電視以及網路或其他形式之影音平台前向對於直播新住民語言文化節目之廣播電視以及網路或其他形式媒體事業政府得予獎勵或補助國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
12310.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
12330.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
第一項為政府應保障新住民傳播及媒體經用權依法協助規劃設立全國性新住民廣播電視以及網路或其他形式之媒體第二項同台灣民眾黨黨團提案委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第13條政府應保障新住民傳播及媒體經用權協助設立新住民專屬及使用語言之傳播媒介與機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
12331.181 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
12351.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
政府對於製播新住民語言文化節目之廣播、電視或網路等媒體事業得予以獎勵或補助。獎勵及補助辦法由行政院定之。第十六條,台灣民眾黨黨團、國民黨黨團及委員張智倫等18人提案。政府應鼓勵新住民投入公共參與增進多元文化交流。委員羅美玲等22人提案。第十二條, |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
12352.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
12363.352 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
政府因培訓新住民公共政策專業人才提供進修培訓課程並鼓勵新住民參加,請向之鼓勵得以獎勵或其他方法為之。委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第19條,同國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團提案第16條。 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
12367.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
12378.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
第17條台灣民眾黨黨團提案委員張智倫等18人提案及國民黨黨團提案本法自公佈日施行委員羅美玲等22人提案第14條及委員蘇巧慧等26人提案第12條第20條同國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團提案第17條 |
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12385.268 |
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12414.732 |
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修正動議第二條本法所稱新住民定義如下一一入出國籍移民法外國專業人才延攬及僱用法香港澳門關係條例或台灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例在台居留永久居留疫情居留長期居留或定居者二一國籍法申請規劃為我國國民者三一國籍法第二條第一項第一款或第二款前段屬我國國民父或母其中一人非我國國民或一國籍法第二條第一項第三款規劃取得我國國籍者 |
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12415.132 |
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12443.549 |
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提案人委員王美惠等4人修正動議二第二條本法所稱新住民如下依配偶為台灣地區人民之外國人無國籍人大陸地區人民及香港澳門居民以規劃成為本國國民或以依台灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例定居者二依入出國籍移民法第23條取得外僑居留證者三依入出國籍移民法第25條取得外僑永久居留證者 |
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12444.409 |
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12468.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
第三條本法之是用對象為具有新住民身份者及其子女第四條行政院為審議協調本法相關事務應設置推動委員會由行政院院長召集之前向推動委員會三分之二之委員席次由新住民按來源來源別比例分配及組織由行政院定之第六條政府應尊重新住民多元文化鼓勵並提供語言民俗接近文化藝術等活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
12470.629 |
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12499.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
第九條政府應提供獎勵措施結合各級學校家庭與社區推動新住民學習國家語言並提供新住民子女教育生活協助提案人委員徐新穎等三人討論事項二原住民如基本法增訂第二十條之一條文第二十條之一原住民保留地應輔導原住民取得承租權或無償取得所有權原住民取得原住民保留地所有權如有遺傳以原住民為限有下列情形之一者得由政府承受私有 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
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12525.166 |
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案。 原住民保留地一、新辦土地徵收條例第三條、第四條、第一項規定之各款事業及所有權人一該條例第八條規定申請一併徵收二、經中央原住民族主管機關審認符合災害之預防災害發生時之應變及災後致復原重建用地需求三、稅捐基深機關受理以原住民保留地抵繳遺產稅或贈予稅四、因公法上金錢給付義務之指行事件未能拍定原住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
12525.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
12552.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
政府依前項第3款及第4款規定承受之原住民保留地除政府機關依法撥用外其依轉之受讓人以原住民為限國有原住民保留地出租衍生之收益得作為原住民保留地管理原住民族地區經濟發展及基礎設施建設原住民族自治費用不受國有財產法第7條規定之限制原住民保留地之增化邊所有權取得資格條件與程序開發利用與出租出租衍生收益之管理運用及其他輔導管理 |
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12556.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
相關事項之辦法由中央原住民族主管機關定之宣讀完畢。 |
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12589.933 |
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現在已經宣讀完畢了,謝謝,我在這邊宣告一下為了要使討論聚焦,本次的會議進行逐條討論的時候因為新住民基本法草案沒有行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
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12615.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
經查台灣民眾黨和國民黨黨團版本條文差異性不大我們是不是這次的會議就以兩個黨團版本條文為基準然後對照委員的修法提案來進行每條條文如果有委員提案或是修正動議的時候也分別請委員表示意見我們再由行政單位一併來回覆說明我們現在來進行寫商 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
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12616.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
12626.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
12636.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會第15次全體委員會 |
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12656.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
12662.387 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
對,草案名稱是新住民基本法還是新住民權益保障法? |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
12664.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
12681.272 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
12690.316 |
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12719.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
年份也很久了大家來台灣的時間也很久了有新舊之分而且隨著時代的變化到底我們現在還適不適合稱人家為新住民還是甚至因為我們現在因為人口結構正在改變人口政策也設想要調整所以會不會是我們的移民政策也有必要再做進一步討論所以根本就應該不再使用新住民這個名詞而是使用新移民甚至是移民 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
12719.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
12719.822 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
案。 審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
12737.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
12755.074 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
美玲委員所提出的權益保障法能夠更直接的指涉到我們今天想要處理的種種事務嗎?這個今天早上也所在多有的討論啦基本法跟作用法的效力如何等等所以主席現在我們要從名稱開始來討論起的話我就覺得其實這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
12761.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
12783.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
要有很多的辯證空間新住民、新移民、移民還是基本法、權益保障法還是等等的這個我覺得大家需要有更多的思考以上我先說明一下我的立場啦我覺得需要再討論一下好 謝謝小委員繼續請羅美玲委員然後是郁真委員嗎?好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
12786.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
12786.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
新移民 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
12819.285 |
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案。 如果是新住民是New Inhabitants您在英文我們要如何定義都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
12820.274 |
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| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
我們如果對外都說我們有新住民權益保障法那我們對外的時候要如何去稱呼所以我是覺得說到底我們要是新住民還是新移民還是移民那就是還要再去定義的地方所以單單這個名稱我都覺得說還要有一個非常大的這個討論連名稱連新住民新移民還是移民都還搞不清楚的狀況之下我們要如何去做主條的討論我這個覺得 |
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12848.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
12851.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 《新住民權益保障法草案案》案。 |
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12876.081 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
12881.744 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
12905.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
12906.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
12922.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
12922.837 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
12944.082 |
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12944.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
12964.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
12982.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保 |
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不管是新住民、新移民都好但那是基本法但如果我們是作用法我們權益保障法就比較偏向作用法其實要定一個基本法這個涵蓋的面向非常大然後可能還要再另定其他的法案去處理所以這一點我認為大家要先想清楚我們要的基本要的是什麼 |
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如果我們今天的方向是要直接處理那權益保障法那比較直接但如果你要定一個基本法而不是作用法那個方向整個都不一樣喔這個可能要大家各位委員大家想一下喔 |
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13034.807 |
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13038.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件, 由於我認為權益保障法 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
13063.137 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
13064.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
張智倫委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
13077.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
13096.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
主席、各位委員、大家午安剛剛我是支持羅美玲委員的講法第一個我認為新住民在台灣已經將近60萬人了所以針對新住民的名詞定義我覺得大家都非常的清楚至於要修基本法還是修權益保障法的部分我也要幫賴麥一貞委員補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
13101.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
13102.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
13124.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
13141.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
案。 審查委員 |
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13188 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件, 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件, 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件, 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件, 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件, 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件, 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保� |
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| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
13195.224 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
案的權益保障。 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
13219.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
13247.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
這個名稱的部分會涉及到後面的條文的定義比如說這個到底要叫新移民還是新住民移民的話就包含很多包括移工移民但是你移民署的業務包含因為現在我查了我查了在我們的法律裡面移民沒有定義吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
13250.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
13275.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
13284.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會第12屆第1會期內政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
13304.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
13324.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
第一條民眾黨的提案其實跟國民黨跟張智倫委員跟巧惠委好像比較相同但是呢這個民眾黨有一個參政的權利大家看一下所以我們對第一條大家來看看有沒有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
13328.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
13342.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
僑會委員主席我想我的版本當中我想唸一次留作記錄為落實憲法保障多元文化精神保障新住民之基本權益協助其融入我國社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
13343.072 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
13358.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
案。 建立共存共榮之族群關係特制定本法。我想我這樣寫的目的是不好意思我沒有要批評其他版本的意思而是我自身的觀念是認為現在的時代似乎比較不 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
13360.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
13369.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
不傾向於什麼族群融合我們已經從以前是我們是民族的大熔爐現在已經都是大家都說我們是沙拉碗就是每個人是相處在同一個空間當中可是我們可以保有自己的特色我記得我們在處理在建構原住民族的自我認同的時候也是傾向於這樣子的狀態所以我是比較沒有傾向於用族群融合這樣子的字來表述但是 |
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13390.064 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
13403.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
當然我們是要一起進入到現在我們生存的這個空間土地狀態上所以我才會寫說是協助其融入我國社會建立共存共榮那我這樣子的寫法請大家參考好謝謝巧慧委員提的意見繼續我們請黃婕委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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審查委員 |
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審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 〈新住民權益保障法草案案〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 〈新住民權益保障法草案案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 〉審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益 |
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審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民 |
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有王美惠委員的修正動議,還有徐欣盈委員的修正動議。大家都看一下。我們請美惠委員。主席,我認為新住民的權益和保障, |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具:「新住民權益保� |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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13624.833 |
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這件事,我的意見是這樣,我是覺得,本來是要保障最有新住民的身份的孩子,這個法條應該是要有外籍的配偶的孩子,有我們國內的國際教育發動,去保障他的孩子,我相信是這樣,以上。 |
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13627.881 |
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| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 條例審查委員 |
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其中有提到說就是大部分都是以規劃的跟本國人民結婚以規劃等等之類的可是我有加了一個外國專業人才纜財僱用法的這個部分因為這個法是前兩年才修的所以我們要那以我的想法來講應該也是要把這些人給納入因為這些外國專業人才他們來到台灣之後呢 |
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他們可能剛開始是先來申請這個居留之後因為認同台灣之後入籍的其實也不少所以我有把這個外專人才給列入進來所以這部分的話我看到很多委員的版本其實是沒有這一條所以特別在這裡跟大家說明一下請這個僑會委員 |
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13731.324 |
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好 我也跟大家分享報告一下我的版本我的版本這個本法所稱新住民定義如下那我想跟其他委員的版本的落差之一的話是先順序順序就有差別我想還是延續著我從早上質詢到現在的概念我認為新住民實在是不應該就只停留在過去我們在講說外配啊 陸配啊配偶 |
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13734.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
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規劃為我國國民者列為第一項我認為這是合理比較合理的狀態那第二項我的第二項呢那跟大家一樣就是處理這個因婚姻關係而取得這個身份的人那麼第三項的話是處理 |
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因工作或因投資而取得居留及身分的人。不過當然這個地方等一下也請行政部門討論一下說明一下他的意見因為這裡確實是如果依照這種寫法是會連喬生也就是學生會包含在裡面那今天早上似乎是有不同的看法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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好 謝謝喬惠委員這樣子好不好我想請問一下羅美玲委員因為您的版本你是在第三款裡面本條第一項外籍一共的定義可是呢在你的第二條裡面並沒有像你的意思是其實就像剛剛喬惠委員講的其實我的版本其實還是不含這個藍領的這個部分 |
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審查委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
這部分的話還是以這個比如說勞工的部分他必須移工的部分必須還是要第五年的時候轉到中階我知道但是我知道您的意思但是就是在您的文字的上面還有你的第二條前面並沒有這一項所以所以你的第三款寫說本條第一項我們找不到你第一項在哪裡 |
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| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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13900.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
審查委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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審查委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 〈審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「 |
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14041.124 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅 |
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我覺得齁剛剛在質詢內容裡面其實也有講到我們把子女但是他子女可能是在台灣出生的在台灣念幼稚園、念小學、念國中那你要把他冠上一個身份以後我們還沒討論到這個是基本法還是權益法你把他冠上一個身份以後 |
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| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
他在班上就是新住民學生而不是跟同學一樣我覺得這個有點奇怪我覺得這個可能大家不要說反不反對我們當然是希望他有遇到任何教育醫療語言障礙上我們一定要給你協助但是要不要在他的身份上他就是班上的新住民學生這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
14091.872 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
審查委員羅美玲 |
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| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
14126.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
好 謝謝召委其實我的看法跟立委一樣我是覺得我們現在也還不知道這個是基本法還是作用法那我們這樣子的情況之下你如果第三條又去及其子女第一個怪怪的那第二個我覺得啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
14127.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
14141.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
他的子女他應該都是有中華民國國籍的人了我們如果要把他分開出來我真的覺得對他的整個成長過程這點我們必須要考量一下好 謝謝張宏祿委員再請黃婕委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
14152.929 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會議．立法院擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案． |
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| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
14180.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
其實特別還要把它拿出來做新住民的權益的保障是不是有一種額外標籤化的感覺那他原本就使用台灣國籍的相關的權益的保障其實就是就是台灣人就是大家就這樣看待就可以所以我是擔心這一條會有這樣的疑慮啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
那當然我們也是很善意的我們最希望的就是它可以完全融入台灣的社會然後不會有額外的把它做排除或者是把它還要切一個族群出來我覺得最大的宗旨是這樣所以這一條會造成好的效果還是會有額外的附加的負面的效果我覺得大家要有審慎的思考 謝謝好 繼續我們請麥玉珍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
謝謝主席 謝謝大家我把新住民 新二代放進來的部分就是我們是要保障新二代我們在新二代沒有百分之百都是在台灣出生也沒有百分之百都是在有台灣的國籍所以說我們上次我們是不是要講的那個國籍法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
14237.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件及其中一、二、三、四、五、六、七、八、八、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十、九、十 |
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| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
案。 審查委員 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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14380.468 |
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14404.818 |
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張宏祿委員如果我們今天定的是作用法你說把他的子女放下去我覺得還有可以討論的空間但如果你今天定的是基本法我真的就覺得把他的子女用下去我覺得有點怪怪的而且對他的子女有點標籤化所以真的回到這個是作用法還是基本法 |
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14405.638 |
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14405.979 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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14419.468 |
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14422.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
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14439.208 |
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14455.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
我們如果把子女部分排除在階段上等於把子女可以有的適用可能都排除了所以後面很多條文如果只適用在第一代的新住民會讓整部法案的精神都走樣 |
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14456.445 |
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14456.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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14476.363 |
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14484.752 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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14496.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
14497.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
14526.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
14528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民權益保障法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
14551.666 |
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14553.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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14603.661 |
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謝謝次長補充說明這樣子好不好我來處理一下因為那個現在有這個所謂的保障對象這個第三條還有那個徐欣英委員的這個修正動議適用我們先用適用還是保障當然我們會保留就是這個部分就是我們先處理一下這個這個欣英委員跟郁真委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
14608.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
14609.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
14622.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
14623.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
14644.622 |
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14648.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
案中央主管機關定義許新穎委員修正動議第4條請委員看一下條文內容 |
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14662.298 |
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14676.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
大概為大家看了一下第四條的部分民眾黨的版本是行政院要設置新住民委員會國民黨黨團也是事務多了一個新住民事務委員會蘇巧惠委員是一樣新住民委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
14686.688 |
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14694.194 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
張智倫委員新住民事務委員會張智倫委員新住民事務委員會張智倫委員新住民事務委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
14709.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
14718.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案 條文中,行政院應設置新住民專責機關。」審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 條文中,行政院應設置新住民專責機關。」 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
14727.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
14728.872 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
新住民委員會新住民委員會新住民委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
14750.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
14750.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
張智倫委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
14776.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
14787.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民委員會 行政院應設立新住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
14800.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
14813.856 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
14830.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
14832.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
好,非常謝謝巧慧委員補充說明,繼續我們請張智倫委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
14839.597 |
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14863.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
好 謝謝主席 各位委員最近對於這個第4條設立新住民事務委員會這個部分我相對是堅持因為現在這些很多的部會各部會現在是新住民事務局現在的推動是有是已經它的效益不彰就像剛剛很多委員講的用上課的方式一個一個委員會去消耗這個政府的預算非常不妥所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
14864.176 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
14874.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件、新住民權益保障法草案案件、新住民權益保障法草案案件、新住民權益保障法草案案件、新住民權益保障法草案案件、新住民權益保障法草案案件、 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
14881.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
14896.274 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
好 先請王美玲委員主席在這兩天我們行政院目前就設了一個新住民事務協調會議嘛到現在滿編的時候像如果說要再設下去一定有權益的啦是這樣要怎麼處理這是最重要的 以上 |
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14908.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
14916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
14928.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
14943.501 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
依據因為我們原住民族基本法也是第三條裡面的寫法一模一樣行政院為審議協調本法相關事務應設置推動委員會由行政院院長召集之 |
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14944.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
14968.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
那前項推動委員會三分之二之委員席次由新住民案來源別比例分配請組織也由行政院定之那本席提這個也是按照前面就是我們包括原住民委員會還有原住民基本法我們是參考所以這個部分也許也適中也有彈性請大家參考謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
14969.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
14974.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
14988.029 |
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| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
案。 審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
15006.779 |
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15025.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民基本法草案案件及新住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
15025.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
15041.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
15051.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
15080.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
不當黨團處理委員會就是這樣來的這個轉型正義委員會也都是這樣子放在那條條文裡面的好 以上好 謝謝哲祺李博弈委員謝謝 其實每個版本都幾乎都是希望可以成立這個委員會啦但是其實你去檢視各縣市政府那有一些縣市政府目前還沒有成立的原因不是因為他們人不夠也不是因為沒有注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
15081.529 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
15093.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
其實最重要的就是說其實如果我們現在要通過以目前行政院還沒有提出版本的話行政院如果要提出這一個版本一定要先在做組織的這些變革跟討論因為現在已經滿編的嘛 |
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15096.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
15110.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
我相信所有的縣市政府也一樣這需要一個過程所以是不是等院版趕快來提出一併把大家的需求組織改造等等的一併來做一些討論那我們再來做討論會比較適合 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
15116.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
15116.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
15131.784 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
15148.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
好 謝謝主席我的想法是因為確實現在是滿邊的狀況那組織基準法裡面也有提到說不得已作用法或其他的法規規定機關之組織所以我當然也是希望最後是可以有一個專責的機關來處理只是在此之前滿邊的狀況要怎麼改組 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
15153.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
15157.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民基本法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案． |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
15177.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
15201.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
審理一個專責機關之前除了現在的行政院新住民事務協調匯報之外我們移民署的業務是不是也應該要可以加速的來調整像是現在的移民事務組可以先改成新住民事務組等等的就是讓他們在這個過渡期可以先來做一個權益的保障跟處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
15201.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
15204.504 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案． |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
15221.624 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
15222.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
案。 審查委員張智倫等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
15244.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
15245.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
15264.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
15269.699 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
新住民不管是委員會還是新住民委員會因為像我們的調寫委剛才的就是一年兩次這樣子的話都是來背書說要怎麼去花這個錢各個部會已經花完了大家來簽名背書而已就沒有達到那個效果真正的照顧到或者權益我覺得是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
15288.584 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
15289.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
15306.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
15306.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
15338.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
15338.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
15345.253 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
15354.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
15374.699 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
15391 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
15391.921 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
15393.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具《新住民基本法草案》案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
15416.792 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
15423.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
可能現階段還是以那個現在的機制寫了匯報來處理應該是比較可行的以上好謝謝次長曾經的委員還發言嗎什麼簡短一下好不好我們就不要再針對這一條因為好不好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
15436.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
15460.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
如果這個因為不受這個這是一個立法的技術而已不受中央行政機關組織基準法第幾條的規定那個只是立法的技術必這是必要的這第一個第二個要嘗試更好那就也要修也要修行政院組織行政院的組織法 |
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15465.145 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案件及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件及審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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15519.758 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案 |
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但正因為想照顧所以我們十幾個立法委員國會同仁希望能夠更周延因為我們訂出去的東西未來就是法律是全體國人都要適用的所以我是希望主席是不是有機會我們可以再有更好的更長的討論時間以上 |
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審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具新住民權益保障法草案。 審查委員羅美玲等19人� |
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這第一個第二個本席也認同不要在行政院組織法以外再規定行政院要設部會級的委員會這兩點我聲明這個立場謝謝好謝謝那專委走下來跟大家討論一下我們休息一分鐘 |
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聽我主席說一句 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民 |
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案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案 案。 |
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15696.085 |
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案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案 案。 審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具 |
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15722.181 |
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審查委員羅美玲等21人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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15723.961 |
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15748.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民基本法的名稱： 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民基本法草案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民基本法草案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民基本法草案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民基本法草案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民基本法草案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民基本法草案案件事項,其中一項是關於新住民 |
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好 謝謝我們所有的委員真的非常的認真而且大家對新住民的權益真的也都大家都很認真的討論那不管是民眾黨不然國民黨不管是巧會委員或者是各位委員的版本其實大家都非常的希望新住民的權益被顧及到所以我們今天有做充分的這個第一次的意見交流所以呢主席 |
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15806.774 |
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先讀一下本次會議所討論的各黨團和委員所提的新住民基本法草案等提案本期請內政部在會後也就是520之後請你們要提出你們的版本好不好在本次會議各黨團和委員提案的版本跟委員520之後之後對不對因為可以嗎好不好好 |
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案。 本時期內政部於520號 |
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520之後將本次會議各黨團和委員提案的版本跟委員發言所提出的相關新住民的遭遇還有他的現況的問題向行政院匯報並請行政院在520之後要提出新住民基本法相關草案本席會儘速排上議程我們再進行審查好不好這樣子很中性啦謝謝各位 |
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案。 審查委員 |
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15891.864 |
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最重要的是行政院版本一定要擺出你們的態度所以行政院版本一定要來好不好我們現在這個新住民的基本法草案我們現在討論到現在然後呢我們來審查一下鄭天才委員高丁、蘇梅盧、姓一、林倩琦等20人擬具原住民主基本法徵定第20條之一條文草案我們來審查這個法案請 |
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提案 |
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好 朝委 阿哥委員那針對鄭天才委員 高金素美委員 盧憲宇委員 李千玺委員等20位委員擬具的《原住民主基本法》徵定第21條之一的條文草案的部分我們嚴明會有三點意見做個回應第一個是《原住民主基本法》的立法體力就是針對我們原住民主各項權益的保障跟發展做基本性跟原則性的規範 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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15950.53 |
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15970.366 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件及新住民權益保障法草案案件 |
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案。 其回復取得處分、計劃、管理及利用等事項,另以法律定之。我們人民會也依據這個條文的授權,已經擬定了《原住民主保留地管理利用條例草案》,也在去年的111年3月17號已經送立法院來審議。那因為立法院第10屆立法委員任期已經屆期,所以該法案不續審。不過這個草案我們現在在 |
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審查委員羅美玲等19人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案．新住民權益保障法草案案。 |
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保留地管理利用條例草案,希望各委員支持。至於政委員等所提出的有關於三保條例三十七條條文內容,其實我們已經在剛剛提到的原住民主保留地管理利用條例草案都已納入。以上做說明,謝謝。好,非常謝謝古仲副主委。我們請鄭天才委員。 |
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審查委員 |
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16064.979 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
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原住民族基本法剛才古仲副主委所講的原住民族基本法第20條的第三項是要定原住民族土地及海域法我們蔡總統在105年8月1號向原住民族道歉及承諾會很快的將原住民族基本法 |
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所授權的原住民族土地及海域法但是這8年來送都沒有送來然後剛才所提到的原住民族保留地管理利用條例事實上以現在的這個草案來講根本沒有辦法因應現況而且是反而會影響到原住民的土地的潛意 |
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就是因為原住民族基本法公布施行到現在20年以上了所以這麼久了我才不得不要把山坡地範圍以外的要先把它解決這個是不得不的一個做法就如同為什麼會把原住民保留地放在山坡地 |
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審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具 |
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16208.24 |
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16222.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案。 審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法� |
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政委員的問題就沒有了啦 對不對我只是從這一點基本法跟作用法那如果我們政委員說的啦說我們就是通過阿去協商齁那政委員阿如果他們其他的作用法好了之後我們這個還要回來修喔不然我們的基本法不好看喔基本法不好看喔 |
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| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
審查委員 |
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好 那我想剛剛政委員所提到就是說我們所送的原來所送的《原住民主保障地管理利用條例草案》有不足的部分我想這個部分就是我們會盡速去研修因為我剛剛提到我們有五種委員的版本我們就一併納入那我們也說明說我們會盡速行程系報行政院來送委員會那原則上延期法盡速是多久你總是要讓我們大家清楚知道一下好不好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民基本法草案案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 及新住民基本法草案案件 |
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嚴紀法可能在因為它是基本式基本性的條文規範好 謝謝好 謝謝我想呢剛剛那個民進黨的紅綠委員這個是非常的謝謝他也理解政天才委員還有召委我們對於原住民保留地的這個重視跟相關權益的保障所以呢紅綠委員說可以我們就今天送出委員會然後需要經過來那個黨團協商 |
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討論事項按原住民主基本法正定第20條之1條的條文草案,以審查文據擬具審查報告提報院會討論。請問在場委員要不要經過黨團協商?要?好,謝謝。本案與院會討論的時候,有本席高金淑媛召委做補充的說明。 |
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16381.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
16401.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．立法院第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．立法院第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．立法院第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．立法院第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民基本法草案．立法院第1會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
16405.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
16411.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
案。 陸方針對開放大陸觀光客來台具體回應還有他的作為進行專案報告並被質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
16427.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
16453.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院第1會期內政委員會第2會期內政委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案．立法院等22人擬具:「新住民權� |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
16455.116 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
16475.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等22人擬具:「新住民權益保障法草案案件事宜、審查委員羅美玲等22人� |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
16542.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
16542.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
案。 |