IVOD_ID |
158493 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158493 |
日期 |
2024-12-30 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-19,36-1 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
1 |
會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-12-30T10:23:30+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-12-30T10:28:41+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:05:11 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e081c0c8fbdd02ce1e83be44f6eda3de9349d0b5afa0c2001bb0ca6921d57b82b45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
委員發言時間 |
10:23:30 - 10:28:41 |
會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議(事由:審查行政院函送公平交易委員會委員提名名單,李鎂續任委員並為主任委員、陳志民續任委員並為副主任委員、洪財隆續任委員,林慶堂為委員,請同意案。) |
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麻煩有請被提名人會員早被提名人你好我想我這次請教你問題的原則跟上一位被提名人主委李美態度一模一樣只有四分鐘的時間那我想要確定一下你的立場那也給你機會說明 |
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2022年7月公平會通過全聯併購大論發案4比34比3非常近的比例全聯併的大論發了以後在市場上面所具有獨佔的地位對消費者所造成的衝擊跟影響我想副主委你很清楚吧清楚你很清楚嗎清楚在那一次併購的時候有委員提出來說要全聯 |
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一年要捐3億出來那位委員是你嗎不是是哪一位委員是不是榮許委員我就不方便在這邊好沒有關係你贊不贊成可以這樣搞可以這樣搞這跟市場的公平競爭秩序有什麼關係 |
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坦白跟委員講 這個案子在審查當下我個人是有提出這樣的一個意見什麼意見 說清楚我有提醒委員要注意到不當連結的問題你有提醒他要注意不當連結的問題他還是執意為之因為每個委員都有獨立行使之權是啊 但你們委員會共同做出決定在公平會裡面的決定書當中 |
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出現了這樣子的東西等於是什麼裡面有委員因為個人的喜好個人的偏好開口要求業者加碼再捐一億他才要投贊成票你說你有提醒這有不當廉潔禁止原則違反的問題他還是執意為之那你們委員會在進行審議的時候 |
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不應該把這件事情納入考慮嗎我想當初在討論的時候所有的各個面向都會在委員會裡面是 針對這件事情的面向請副主委 我提醒副主委我現在是在給你機會可以這樣幹嗎你個人覺得適合嗎清楚表明你的看法我的看法就是在那次委員會裡面我表達對那個委員表達的看法 |
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表達什麼看法再說一次清楚的跟大家講我提醒在付負擔跟我們結合案的審查必須要符合不當連結的原則你認為這有沒有違反不當連結禁止原則我個人認為是這樣的一個連結是並不是很妥當好我就是要這種態度啊要不然我們在這邊審查什麼每一個人的看法心中的那把尺很重要 |
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公民交易委員會牽涉到多少衝擊消費者利益保護的事情啊要求全聯捐錢才要通過結合權力這麼大胡搞瞎搞到這種程度啊再往後看2022年7月到目前為止全聯有沒有履行每年捐3億的承諾就我了解是有了 |
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每年都有有確實去查核嗎有有有 這個在委員會事後的旅行情況我們都有在查核今年四月全年違反承諾 其他的承諾嘛遭罰兩千萬你當初也是蓋同意票的嘛對於這樣的結果你有什麼感想 會不會後悔我想 |
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結果通過付負擔當然事後競爭主管機關還是得要持續去監督有沒有履行是那監督的結果呢那很遺憾的就是看到企業沒有按照當初答應的來履行所以我們當然就處罰以併購啊他所得的經濟上利益跟你罰他兩千萬你會不會覺得不痛不癢一般的人民啊可能搞個兩千萬就要傾家蕩產啊 |
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對於這個併購的企業因為併購所得到的經濟上利益你覺得罰他兩千萬他有感覺嗎有感覺嗎有任何一點感覺嗎適合嗎因為罰者部分有法定的上限所以有時候我們也知道是企業他有一些僥倖的心態但是因為受監禮法定刑好主席站起來了謝謝 |