iVOD / 158493

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IVOD_ID 158493
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158493
日期 2024-12-30
會議資料.會議代碼 聯席會議-11-2-19,36-1
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 2
會議資料.會次 1
會議資料.種類 聯席會議
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 19
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] 36
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 經濟委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] 司法及法制委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2024-12-30T10:23:30+08:00
結束時間 2024-12-30T10:28:41+08:00
影片長度 00:05:11
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委員名稱 黃國昌
委員發言時間 10:23:30 - 10:28:41
會議時間 2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議(事由:審查行政院函送公平交易委員會委員提名名單,李鎂續任委員並為主任委員、陳志民續任委員並為副主任委員、洪財隆續任委員,林慶堂為委員,請同意案。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 麻煩有請被提名人會員早被提名人你好我想我這次請教你問題的原則跟上一位被提名人主委李美態度一模一樣只有四分鐘的時間那我想要確定一下你的立場那也給你機會說明
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 2022年7月公平會通過全聯併購大論發案4比34比3非常近的比例全聯併的大論發了以後在市場上面所具有獨佔的地位對消費者所造成的衝擊跟影響我想副主委你很清楚吧清楚你很清楚嗎清楚在那一次併購的時候有委員提出來說要全聯
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 一年要捐3億出來那位委員是你嗎不是是哪一位委員是不是榮許委員我就不方便在這邊好沒有關係你贊不贊成可以這樣搞可以這樣搞這跟市場的公平競爭秩序有什麼關係
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 坦白跟委員講 這個案子在審查當下我個人是有提出這樣的一個意見什麼意見 說清楚我有提醒委員要注意到不當連結的問題你有提醒他要注意不當連結的問題他還是執意為之因為每個委員都有獨立行使之權是啊 但你們委員會共同做出決定在公平會裡面的決定書當中
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 不應該把這件事情納入考慮嗎我想當初在討論的時候所有的各個面向都會在委員會裡面是 針對這件事情的面向請副主委 我提醒副主委我現在是在給你機會可以這樣幹嗎你個人覺得適合嗎清楚表明你的看法我的看法就是在那次委員會裡面我表達對那個委員表達的看法
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 表達什麼看法再說一次清楚的跟大家講我提醒在付負擔跟我們結合案的審查必須要符合不當連結的原則你認為這有沒有違反不當連結禁止原則我個人認為是這樣的一個連結是並不是很妥當好我就是要這種態度啊要不然我們在這邊審查什麼每一個人的看法心中的那把尺很重要
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 公民交易委員會牽涉到多少衝擊消費者利益保護的事情啊要求全聯捐錢才要通過結合權力這麼大胡搞瞎搞到這種程度啊再往後看2022年7月到目前為止全聯有沒有履行每年捐3億的承諾就我了解是有了
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 每年都有有確實去查核嗎有有有 這個在委員會事後的旅行情況我們都有在查核今年四月全年違反承諾 其他的承諾嘛遭罰兩千萬你當初也是蓋同意票的嘛對於這樣的結果你有什麼感想 會不會後悔我想
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 結果通過付負擔當然事後競爭主管機關還是得要持續去監督有沒有履行是那監督的結果呢那很遺憾的就是看到企業沒有按照當初答應的來履行所以我們當然就處罰以併購啊他所得的經濟上利益跟你罰他兩千萬你會不會覺得不痛不癢一般的人民啊可能搞個兩千萬就要傾家蕩產啊
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 對於這個併購的企業因為併購所得到的經濟上利益你覺得罰他兩千萬他有感覺嗎有感覺嗎有任何一點感覺嗎適合嗎因為罰者部分有法定的上限所以有時候我們也知道是企業他有一些僥倖的心態但是因為受監禮法定刑好主席站起來了謝謝
transcript.gazette[0].speaker 黃委員國昌
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transcript.gazette[0].text 有請被提名人。
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transcript.gazette[1].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[1].start 2024-12-30T10:23:45.514000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[1].text 委員早。
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transcript.gazette[2].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[2].start 2024-12-30T10:23:46.555000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[2].text 被提名人,你好。
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transcript.gazette[3].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[3].start 2024-12-30T10:23:48.156000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[3].end 2024-12-30T10:24:03.546000+08:00
transcript.gazette[3].text 我這一次請教你問題的原則,跟上一位被提名人、主委李鎂的態度一模一樣,只有4分鐘的時間,我想要確定一下你的立場,也給你機會說明。
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transcript.gazette[4].text 2022年7月公平會通過全聯併購大潤發案,以4比3非常近的比例,全聯併了大潤發以後,在市場上所具有獨占的地位對消費者所造成的衝擊跟影響,我想副主委很清楚吧?清楚。
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transcript.gazette[5].start 2024-12-30T10:24:29.444000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[5].end 2024-12-30T10:24:30.524000+08:00
transcript.gazette[5].text 你很清楚嘛?清楚。
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transcript.gazette[6].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[6].start 2024-12-30T10:24:31.645000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[6].end 2024-12-30T10:24:42.745000+08:00
transcript.gazette[6].text 在那一次併購的時候,有委員提出要全聯一年捐3億出來,那位委員是你嗎?不是。
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transcript.gazette[7].text 是哪一位委員?
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transcript.gazette[8].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[8].start 2024-12-30T10:24:45.408000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[8].text 委員是不是容許我不方便在這邊……
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transcript.gazette[9].start 2024-12-30T10:24:47.291000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[9].text 好,沒有關係。
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transcript.gazette[10].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[10].start 2024-12-30T10:24:49.313000+08:00
transcript.gazette[10].guessed
transcript.gazette[10].end 2024-12-30T10:24:50.594000+08:00
transcript.gazette[10].text 你贊不贊成可以這樣搞?
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transcript.gazette[11].start 2024-12-30T10:24:52.156000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[11].text 可以這樣搞嗎?
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transcript.gazette[12].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[12].start 2024-12-30T10:24:54.319000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[12].end 2024-12-30T10:24:56.201000+08:00
transcript.gazette[12].text 這跟市場的公平競爭秩序有什麼關係啊?
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transcript.gazette[13].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[13].start 2024-12-30T10:24:58.373000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[13].text 坦白跟委員講,在這個案子審查當下,我個人是有提出這樣的一個意見……
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transcript.gazette[14].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[14].start 2024-12-30T10:25:04.975000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[14].text 什麼意見?
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transcript.gazette[15].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[15].start 2024-12-30T10:25:05.895000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[15].text 說清楚!
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transcript.gazette[16].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[16].start 2024-12-30T10:25:06.475000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[16].text 我有提醒委員要注意到不當聯結的問題。
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transcript.gazette[17].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[17].start 2024-12-30T10:25:09.256000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[17].text 你有提醒他要注意不當聯結的問題?是。
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transcript.gazette[18].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[18].start 2024-12-30T10:25:12.137000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[18].end 2024-12-30T10:25:13.157000+08:00
transcript.gazette[18].text 他還是執意為之?
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transcript.gazette[19].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[19].start 2024-12-30T10:25:14.018000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[19].text 因為每個委員都是獨立行使職權。是啊!
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transcript.gazette[20].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[20].start 2024-12-30T10:25:17.459000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[20].end 2024-12-30T10:25:32.666000+08:00
transcript.gazette[20].text 但是你們委員會共同做出決定,在公平會的決定書當中出現了這樣子的東西,等於是什麼?
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transcript.gazette[21].start 2024-12-30T10:25:32.666000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[21].text 裡面有委員因為個人的喜好、個人的偏好,開口要求業者加碼再捐1億,他才要投贊成票,你說你有提醒這有不當聯結禁止原則違反的問題,他還是執意為之,那你們委員會在進行審議的時候不應該把這件事情納入考慮嗎?
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transcript.gazette[22].start 2024-12-30T10:25:59.371000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[22].end 2024-12-30T10:26:02.713000+08:00
transcript.gazette[22].text 我想當初在討論的時候,對所有的各個面向都會在委員會裡面討論。
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transcript.gazette[23].start 2024-12-30T10:26:02.953000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[23].end 2024-12-30T10:26:06.675000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].text 是,針對這件事情的面向,我提醒副主委,我現在是在給你機會,可以這樣幹嗎?
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transcript.gazette[24].start 2024-12-30T10:26:06.675000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[24].text 你個人覺得適合嗎?
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transcript.gazette[25].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[25].start 2024-12-30T10:26:06.915000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[25].text 請清楚表明你的看法。
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transcript.gazette[26].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[26].start 2024-12-30T10:26:07.376000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[26].text 我的看法就是在那次委員會裡面我對那個委員所表達的看法。
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transcript.gazette[27].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[27].start 2024-12-30T10:26:24.289000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[27].text 你表達什麼看法?
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transcript.gazette[28].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[28].start 2024-12-30T10:26:25.169000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[28].text 再說一次,清楚的跟大家講。
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[29].start 2024-12-30T10:26:27.150000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[29].text 我提醒他附負擔跟我們結合案的審查必須要符合不當聯結禁止的原則。
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transcript.gazette[30].start 2024-12-30T10:26:33.691000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].guessed
transcript.gazette[30].end 2024-12-30T10:26:37.952000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].text 你認為這有沒有違反不當聯結禁止的原則?
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transcript.gazette[31].speaker 陳志民被提名人
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transcript.gazette[31].text 我個人認為這樣的一個聯結並不是很妥當。
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transcript.gazette[32].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[32].start 2024-12-30T10:26:41.553000+08:00
transcript.gazette[32].guessed
transcript.gazette[32].end 2024-12-30T10:26:44.734000+08:00
transcript.gazette[32].text 好,我就是要這種態度啊!
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transcript.gazette[33].start 2024-12-30T10:26:45.534000+08:00
transcript.gazette[33].guessed
transcript.gazette[33].end 2024-12-30T10:26:48.575000+08:00
transcript.gazette[33].text 要不然我們在這邊審查什麼?
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transcript.gazette[34].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[34].start 2024-12-30T10:26:48.575000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[34].end 2024-12-30T10:27:09.219000+08:00
transcript.gazette[34].text 每一個人的看法、心中的那把尺很重要,公平交易委員會牽涉到多少衝擊消費者利益保護的事情,要求全聯捐錢才要通過結合,權力這麼大啊?
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transcript.gazette[35].start 2024-12-30T10:27:10.300000+08:00
transcript.gazette[35].guessed
transcript.gazette[35].end 2024-12-30T10:27:11.901000+08:00
transcript.gazette[35].text 胡搞瞎搞到這種程度啊!
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transcript.gazette[36].start 2024-12-30T10:27:12.902000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].guessed
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transcript.gazette[36].text 再往後看,從2022年7月到目前為止,全聯有沒有履行每年捐3億的承諾?
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transcript.gazette[37].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[37].start 2024-12-30T10:27:20.948000+08:00
transcript.gazette[37].guessed
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transcript.gazette[37].text 就我的了解是有。
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transcript.gazette[38].start 2024-12-30T10:27:22.810000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].guessed
transcript.gazette[38].end 2024-12-30T10:27:23.350000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].text 每一年都有?
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transcript.gazette[39].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[39].start 2024-12-30T10:27:24.151000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].guessed
transcript.gazette[39].end 2024-12-30T10:27:25.472000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].text 有確實去查核嗎?
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transcript.gazette[40].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[40].start 2024-12-30T10:27:25.472000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].guessed
transcript.gazette[40].end 2024-12-30T10:27:28.675000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].text 有,我們委員會對事後的履行情況都有在查核。
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transcript.gazette[41].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[41].start 2024-12-30T10:27:29.195000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].guessed
transcript.gazette[41].end 2024-12-30T10:27:38.163000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].text 今年4月全聯違反其他的承諾遭罰2,000萬,你當初也是蓋同意票的嘛!
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transcript.gazette[42].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[42].start 2024-12-30T10:27:39.384000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[42].end 2024-12-30T10:27:41.626000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].text 對於這樣的結果,你有什麼感想?
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transcript.gazette[43].start 2024-12-30T10:27:42.126000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].guessed
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transcript.gazette[43].text 你會不會後悔?
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transcript.gazette[44].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[44].start 2024-12-30T10:27:43.488000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[44].text 我想結合通過附負擔,當然事後競爭主管機關還是得要持續去監督有沒有履行。
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transcript.gazette[45].end 2024-12-30T10:27:51.796000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].text 是,那監督的結果呢?
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transcript.gazette[46].speaker 陳志民被提名人
transcript.gazette[46].start 2024-12-30T10:27:52.536000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].guessed
transcript.gazette[46].end 2024-12-30T10:27:56.319000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].text 很遺憾的就是看到企業沒有按照當初答應的來履行,所以我們當然就處罰。
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transcript.gazette[47].text 以併購之後他所得的經濟上利益跟你罰他2,000萬相比,你會不會覺得他根本就不痛不癢?
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transcript.gazette[48].text 一般的人民可能搞個2,000萬就要傾家蕩產了,對於這個併購的企業因為併購所得到的經濟上利益,你覺得只罰他2,000萬,他會有感覺嗎?
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transcript.gazette[49].start 2024-12-30T10:28:17.973000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].guessed
transcript.gazette[49].end 2024-12-30T10:28:19.814000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].text 有感覺嗎?
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transcript.gazette[50].speaker 黃委員國昌
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transcript.gazette[50].guessed
transcript.gazette[50].end 2024-12-30T10:28:23.516000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].text 有任何一點感覺嗎?
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transcript.gazette[51].text 這樣適合嗎?
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transcript.gazette[52].guessed
transcript.gazette[52].end 2024-12-30T10:28:33.762000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].text 因為罰則部分有法定的上限,所以有時候我們也知道企業有一些僥倖的心態,但是因為受限於法定刑。
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transcript.gazette[53].speaker 黃委員國昌
transcript.gazette[53].start 2024-12-30T10:28:34.642000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].guessed
transcript.gazette[53].end 2024-12-30T10:28:35.943000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].text 好,主席站起來了,謝謝。謝謝。
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transcript.gazette[54].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[54].start 2024-12-30T10:28:36.443000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[54].end 2024-12-30T10:28:38.443000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].text 被提名人請回座。
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transcript.gazette[55].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[55].start 2024-12-30T10:28:38.743000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[55].end 2024-12-30T10:28:41.314429+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].text 下一位請林岱樺委員。
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