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| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:55:58 - 12:10:33 |
| 影片長度 |
875 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關金融監督管理委員會、銀行局、證券期貨局、保險局、檢查局收支部分。（僅詢答）
二、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分，有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有限公司。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分，有關金融監督管理委員會主管：（僅詢答）
(一)特別收入基金－金融監督管理基金。
(二)信託基金－保險業務發展基金。
【預算提案截止時間：12月19日（四）中午12時】
【12月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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你一直在推動台灣成為亞太的資產管理中心,現在進度不小了,怎麼樣?現在其實我們第一階段推出的五大策略、十六項措施都依序在進行中比如說我們現在有具體的一些做法,跟委員簡單報告一下 |
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中央政府總預算案有關金融監督管理委員會有 |
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那我想再來就是我們在那個壯大股市計畫裡面還有就是雙掛牌的部分日方已經具體的回應我們大概今年第三季就可以看到我們的ETF雙掛牌跟日本雙掛牌還有就是我們的兆元投資計畫就是擴大國內的資金投入公建增加相關的這些金融商品的部分也都在依序推動那這個比特幣的ETF什麼時候會推出 |
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我們現在是開放專業投資人用付委託的方式去購買這個比特幣ETF我們上次有答應我們這個立法院是我們觀察期6個月以後再來看他執行成效接下來看看要怎麼樣去進行下一步所以金管會對於虛擬貨幣現在的態度比較開放比較友善的我們是謹慎友善 |
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警慎、友善那會支持嗎?就警慎友善警慎友善我記得有多次在這邊談過當初如果有聽我的建議央行那時候6千塊美金現在已經超過10萬塊然後所有聽央行講話的全部都翻車全部都翻船 |
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所以其實另外一個表徵就是扼殺了很多年輕人他賺錢的機會因為在整個資源上來講這個傳統或者是一些電子業這些產業已經被這些老人全部都佔據了年輕人是沒有出頭的機會所以這幾年出現了航海王 對不對 |
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因為老人說的投信這些老傢伙沒有人會去看好這個東西嘛這年輕人他願意去嘗試去拼所以當初如果說我們主管機關的態度是謹慎又開放又小心又建議他只要投資一萬就可以變成多少主委你知道嗎 |
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看什麼時候投資最早到最近十幾萬一顆獲利是多少是萬倍一萬倍以上那大家都想說那怎麼有這些傻瓜會去買這個東西以前我們比較 |
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有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險 |
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比較久了大概6年前如果台灣是採取開放的態度我相信台灣有很多年輕人在這一波虛擬貨幣的發展他們是跟上潮流的那你看川普上去了以後他改變他的思維美國會不會把虛擬貨幣、虛擬資產成為他外匯準備的一個儲備因為我看那個鮑爾是說他們現在沒有這個計畫 |
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有在討論對,他們說那個他們的FED現在沒有是,我希望說主委是用比較開闊的心態因為香港現在比較勢微的那新加坡就是一直搶搶滾 |
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替代了很多的這個Private Banking很多的一些資產管理的很多資金、金流都跑到新加坡去川普時代來臨了以後大概會面臨改變主委你大概會怎麼判斷 |
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未來整個亞洲金融的交易中心會怎麼樣的移轉?台灣應該要掌握什麼契機?我想資金有很多面向有不同的資金他會駐足在不同的地方 |
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臺灣是具有投資機會還有很多新創潛力有深度的市場所以我們是希望吸引這樣的資金在臺灣來進行管理這部分我覺得臺灣的努力 |
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以10年5年以來的發展臺灣確實深度跟廣度上已經有很大的改變所以我覺得未來臺灣是有可能在整個亞洲的資產管理在有一席之地 |
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我們希望說一棒接一棒各個是好棒在場有我們黃天牧前主委也在這個地方過去黃主委他奠定了一個基礎大概金融圈的感覺就是穩擦穩打很保守那也不是說不好啦 |
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有好比如說金融銀行的這個獲利以及證券相關這個今年大概都已經破紀錄了接近要上兆表示這個金融圈大家都是過得快樂的日子那過去穩定的基礎現在銀行的預放大概多少0.160.16保險的部分 |
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這個保險的部分這個低於資本市儲率的現在還有幾家現在目前一家就一家有沒有機會救起來他們在努力中 |
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銀行證券,證券也不錯啊在過去的努力也破了兩萬點所以這個基礎都已經打好了現在接棒就需要更多的開放更多的點子那彭主席你是點子王啊沒有所以我想說你穩健是穩健希望可以積極那你現在看韓國韓國最近的資金大幅的外商大竄頭是為什麼 |
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我也看到就是我們亞洲股市裡面大部分都是上漲比如說像台灣跟日本是大概是兩個那接下來後來香港那個韓國是下跌的我想這個他有很比較複雜的這樣一個結構因為他戒嚴啊那可能有一段長的趨勢台灣有沒有可能會搞戒嚴 |
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抱歉我沒辦法回答沒辦法回答好那萬一萬一我們當然是不希望看到戒嚴可是如果有人心存歹念想要戒嚴的話一搞戒嚴的話對於金融機構會有什麼影響我們所有的企業所有民眾的資金會被凍結這個看我想如果說以韓國的經驗不管它時間多短但是產生這個資本市場波動已經大家都看到了 |
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如果這個戒嚴發生在臺灣的話對於這些金融業產生的影響是什麼這個我不做預期不過我想我們從韓國的經驗看到一定會有一些影響好啦我們希望說不要看到戒嚴啦因為你的資金可能就限制外匯管制整個就是大概金融就封掉了另外剛剛講到證券這個當沖降稅來得及來不及 |
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我們當然我們現在所有都準備如果說真的能夠當中降稅通過的話那就現況當然問題沒有完全沒有我也期待說我們還有幾次大會的時間如果能夠通過的話對台灣的經濟的穩定還是非常非常有幫助因為我們過去經驗曾經有一次有討論到這個問題就市場產生一些不安的波動那實際上我想這部分我們有過去的經驗我們還是期待能夠 |
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我們大家能夠在這個會期比如在今年12月、13月、14月能夠通過這個部分那順利當然前面有委員質詢我們該做的準備我們一個也不會少萬一來不及怎麼辦那就按照回到我們法規的法律的狀態就沒有減半科增我們就開始要花入一些一些的人力時間成本去改變這些我看那個張局長很緊張 |
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因為你這一把熱火很熱的一個股市熱絡的情況突然啪降溫那萬一降溫的話 |
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想要再恢復會不會很困難所以說希望委員能夠多多多多那個支持讓他趕快通過現在日均量多少現在大概4200多億4000多那當沖的部分占了多少4成4成啊對你4000多欸4624如果怕掉下來的話剩2000多億那影響是很大的啊那確實當沖降稅在很多我們在審查這時候呢他對於我們的成交量的增加是非常明顯的 |
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我們希望說迎向未來台灣成為亞洲的資產管理中心勢必要參考一下臨近國家的情況 |
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把韓國的一些資源他們的一些流向給導入台灣香港金融地位看我們台灣能不能取代謝謝謝謝委員最後一句現在討論的租賃公司租賃公司現在的糾紛案件到底有幾件 |
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因為現在我們沒有在受理這一塊因為那個現在的消費糾紛還是回到原來的我們的消保體制假設未來納入金保法以後呢我們在平益中心就會有明確的統計那你不曉得幾件你為什麼要急著要去管理這些公司這倒不是因為我們看到社會上很多的紛爭而且我們過去一直相信相同的行為要受到相同的類似的管理我們已經看到就是說 |
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他們在做很多這些融資待放的時候我覺得這是社會關注的一題其實這本來不是金管會的所俠業務我們覺得說社會對這個期待我們認為說假設能夠以現在金融消保法這樣來管理說不定是一個解決現在對行為所以你如果要管的話請問駐林公司有幾千 |
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現在我剛剛講他界限是模糊的但是我們租賃公會裡面大概40家40家租賃公司一共有七、八千家就看你看剛剛的數字你如果要管的話那你應該全部都要那樣管啊你怎麼就管幾家現在說管三家 |
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上市的一共有幾家?上市4家我們是分階段因為這是一個試行的過程沒辦法一下子這樣第一階段管3家第二階段什麼時候實施會管7000家我們原本第二階段是半年後半年後是針對我們金融機構轉投資的這些14家 |
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十四家所以每一家都要列管不是 它其實上就是只針對它的有金融消費者的爭議那一塊納管不是 我們一直都說金融有消費嘛我就問你說那金融消費有爭議的有幾件我剛才跟委員報告過因為它現在不是我們納管我們沒有去統計這個我跟工會 工會說剩不到三、四件 |
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有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有 |
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你要管你要管得有意義而且是一致性的對 當然剛剛講我剛剛也跟委員也就前面也報告過只要這個產業是一個非常非常明確的界限那當然是但是剛剛講我們從早上到現在有人說一千家有人說六千家有人講 |
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其實各位就知道那個是現在沒有一個成型的一個產業我們只能是從他那個業務登記上面去推你可能是主委那你這個管完以後下一個你要再管的就是那個地下錢莊 |
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沒有 這個不是 我們金融監管有它一定的界限地下錢裝在下面也好 當鋪因為它是一個生態的關係啦如果一般企業它借得到 它直接就跟銀行借啊就是因為銀行借不到 它才會跑去刺激市場對 所以我們才會差異化去處理這個會有它的道理存在 |
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委員非常內行就是說我們對他的管理是比較低度只做行為管理就是消費行為管理就做一件事情我還是提醒你就是說不要用大炮打小鳥也不會我們剛剛跟委員報了這差異化已經我們不是用銀行的角度去管理他 |
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不是我們是用差異銀行是有機構管理跟消費行為管理他只針對那個部分的個人的消費金融要滿足那幾個要件比如契約公平那個廣告核實然後像比如說KYC那個就是很很基本的這樣而已啊所以我覺得時間關係是是是資料在後補好了是沒問題謝謝謝謝委員謝謝盧文才委員謝謝接著我們請葉元之委員 |
| IVOD_ID |
158257 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158257 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-11 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-19T11:55:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-19T12:10:33+08:00 |
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