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| 委員名稱 |
魯明哲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:31:50 - 10:46:41 |
| 影片長度 |
891 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部觀光署署長及桃園國際機場股份有限公司董事長就「如何提升過境及轉機旅客入境台灣觀光品質並增加觀光人數」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光署及所屬單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金─觀光發展基金分預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於交通部主管中華郵政股份有限公司營業預算。
【僅進行詢答；第二案至第四案委員預算提案於12月25日中午12時前截止收件】【12月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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主席、交通部陳部長、觀光署周署長 |
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好那今天主要是觀光因為我們看到520賴總統上任的時候其實那時候這個最早我們的部長也是發言人我相信很多的一個想法應該你都知道而且現在你有機會來執行他部分的政策我們是蠻樂觀其成的那我覺得現在最重要大家都說政治歸政治教育歸教育文化歸文化觀光歸觀光經濟歸經濟你站不站著 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質。 |
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貿易順差兩岸之間我們是順差而且啊順差大概一千多億一千多億的美金啊美金啊所以如果說拿掉兩岸之間的貿易順差的話其實台灣在整個世界來看非常可能逆差所以這個當然我們就沒有意見嘛欸跟法最好不要取消這陸委會也表示好多了嘛所以我在想不見得每一件事 |
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都是我們談的樣樣樣我們覺得主要要對等互相有善意這是真的是需要啦可是為了要計算諸之必跳教育或說這個觀光的領域每個都要去算的話糟糕了他拿貿易來跟我說要平衡是不是那他開放幾項我們就要開放幾項我們是要比這個嗎比這種對等嗎其實我覺得有些不見得要不過我是覺得齁 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
146.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
158.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
175.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
我們的業者台灣也希望能夠賺錢啦好不好尤其觀光業者甚至有些到民間的一些業者在過去早期的時候在有開放客來台的時間最最高的時候啊差不多我們來台旅客的含量超過400萬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
177.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
195.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
那到了疫情之前大概也有兩三百萬那他入客的部分他有一定的產值超過一千多億這是當時當時觀光局你們的統計疫情之後就沒有什麼數字的統計了所以剛剛部長說可能還要統計所以現在正好碰到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
196.647 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
203.033 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
218.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
218.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
好。 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
236.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
252.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
因為我們記憶沒錯的話金門馬祖也是中華民國的一部分吧所以金門馬祖已經開放了這個金馬開放福建4000萬人先行去座的旅遊啊那個署長請問一下當時金馬開放是誰宣布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
255.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
281.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
這是陸委會的權責不是陸委會宣布我說對案是誰宣布的嘛你們一直在計較上海市長、副市長宣布的我就請問一下請問一下是誰宣布的你還記得嗎到最後922信號公告是誰公告的回憶一下就是福建省公安廳發的公告嘛那你那時候為什麼不講公安廳莫名其妙為什麼不是文旅部拜託啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
281.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
285.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質。 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
300.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
329.384 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
但是你在計較這個到底是因為當現在金馬現在開放他也沒有也不是文旅部啦所以我拜託宣布當你們實務的對接該怎麼對接我們真的是希望能夠展開啦報告教委在交通部跟觀光署的部分您這樣指教其實我覺得很合理就是說該對接的部分我們能做的範圍啦我們來對接看看有時候不是我們能對接的上啦但是我們能做的我們先來做做看 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
330.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
353.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
對你對接之後搞不好他是騙人嘛那騙人大家就講清楚了不要卡在這裡這麼難過嘛直接就去對接一下啦好那我們希望在台灣觀光的一個產值能夠能夠把這個台灣有一些又去偏遠的地方啊不過是真的沒有辦法現在很多我們的人數啊很多的商務客他集中在都市他辦事為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
354.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
355.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
369.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
373.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
387.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
399.969 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
目前就金門縣啦金馬現在有開放嘛剛開始我想看到一些負面新聞說他根本沒料來啦開放也是假的但是我們就是在兩個月9月27號說開放正式第一團來10月5號到12月9號為止差不多兩個月的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
407.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
434.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
我們昨天跟金門縣政府拿到的一個最新的統計資料因為他們吞吐量也有限啊船就那麼多嘛所以也拜託你們是不是航港局能夠多開一點航班報告委員這個趙偉這個我們有在有在進行我知道我們只是在想說當年歸零的時刻到現在為止平均平均喔這將近兩個月多一點的時間金門縣就是大陸觀光客 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
435.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
438.965 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
463.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
485.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
您做過發言人對其他的部會也多有認識是不是大家能夠成真心聚在一起討論一下這個議題啦看看能不能我們就接了因為反正金馬這個球也接了嘛也接了嘛是不是能夠這個球是不是大概多久能夠召開這樣的一個會議不過跟委員報告一下像馬祖平均的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
487.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
513.072 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
它應該平均每日約400人可是它現在平均每日不到100人雖然是開放但是在量很少我在講金門啊我在講金門那你們那個船班你們是要去研究一下那最後我想今天這個做結論所以我覺得我們現在問一下觀光署好不好你們現在因為我們現在我們一直在說這個有些 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
515.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
538.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
網紅去大陸不管是配合他們做旅遊的行銷城市的介紹等等也在台灣掀起了軒然大波我倒是沒有辦法判定誰對誰錯我沒有辦法判定但是我只是想說我們觀光署有沒有去找大陸的網紅來到底有沒有來去做我們台灣的不管是景點的宣傳台灣的美台灣的好有沒有做這樣的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
539.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
568.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
我們還是有做了但是就是我們是不是也是有統戰對岸的性質嗎不是這樣講我們總是要介紹台灣的美好的景點啊然後也要把22個縣市推介出去啊所以有些最基本的還是有的啊所以這個算辦統戰啊我們算辦統戰啊我們當然是只就觀光談觀光啊不會有就是來他的網紅來這裡回去會不會被法辦因為拿了你政府的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
569.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
597.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
不過一樣我們倒過來這樣講嘛就是因為這是現在進行式啦我們公平講他拿了我們中華民國政府的錢然後回去他會被辦啦你要注意一下但我看到你每一年齁沒有今年今年到底辦了沒有齁邀請知名旅遊網紅合作計畫約人民幣13萬113年這個部分辦了沒有那就是台灣燈會有時候會有特定的沒有沒有這個錢花了沒有嘛找了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
598.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
603.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
執行了沒有?你們剛剛執行了嗎?有執行了嗎?那有請廈門的這個姓街的網紅跟張璇兩位網紅來幫忙,有吧?請廈門的這個旅遊達人陳誠來做深度介紹,這有做沒有?都做了嘛,所以那明年呢?明年一樣嘛,明年你們也編了 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
627.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
628.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部部長陳世凱、交通部長陳世凱、交通部長陳世凱 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
643.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
648.448 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
671.739 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
688.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
問一下中華郵政,抱歉抱歉,對不起,已經超過時間,不好意思。這個因為我們看到我們講本業啦,我知道你們這幾年因為你剛到任啦,我也不是說在講怪你啦,就是中華郵政我覺得有時候要面對一下, |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
689.272 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
713.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
有歸零思考的我知道你們比如說儲蓄甚至保險很努力啊去拉保險這個部分可是你中華郵政其實有個本業啦就是郵務業務郵務你們的稅購盡力啊我們就算了這6年從2019年開始是一路下滑一路下滑到今年到今年2024年還沒過完啦現在已經負14.1億啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
719.076 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
735.577 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
你們在本月到最後發生什麼事情啊?你有去研究嗎?各位報告,的確它是從去年到今年,郵務面臨很大的虧損。那主要是在除了郵件以外,是讓它包裹跟快捷也下降。 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
736.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
762.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
大概我從8月21日上任以後已經針對這個部分包括我們在數位化的介面還有包括我們舊客戶跟新客戶的拜訪都積極進行我想就是提高品質把客人找回來這是他們最重要的工作王董事長真的啦要拜託你啦因為你有你是整面全面的觀念你去注入到中華郵政真的啦不要以不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
763.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
767.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質及所屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
786.028 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
805.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
國際包裹減少了10.5、自轉油量減少了9.3。他那個統計報告各行各業把新竹物流每個都在買車每個都在發財財海運的快遞每一個都在增班只有我們以不變應萬變的中華郵政我跟你講你們現在面對的對手是什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
806.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
808.464 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
包括你剛才談到蝦皮的電對電,我們現在是把我們的愛油箱也要轉成電對電的一個服務。 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
828.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
855.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
我跟委員報告最近他們這幾個月開始這個衰退已經開始減緩了那我是期待是在明年的七月包括我們的數位化的這些民眾的服務做好以後明年七月希望我給他們目標就明年開始止跌回升那現在有很多比較新的一些作為或是過去在中華郵政比較消極的跟客戶的關係這部分我都在加強中 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
856.306 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
880.448 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
我想說就以這樣的目標我們來進行。拜託你,現在兩岸的網購、電郵的一個部分,其實主要的包裹大概80%到90%來自大陸,可是你們在這邊的包裹業務,我看順豐快遞一些民間業者,我跟你講你們,我覺得你們這一部分是不是重新思考,因為我知道你們好像整個業務只交給某一個承辦人, |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
883.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
890.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
帶了30年40年的一個觀念拜託重新去哪裡有生意去哪裡抓這是我的建議好不好好謝謝 |
| IVOD_ID |
158204 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158204 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-16 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-18T10:31:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-18T10:46:41+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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