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委員名稱 |
陳瑩 |
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14:11:28 - 14:25:27 |
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839 |
會議時間 |
2024-12-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第14次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請衛生福利部部長列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。
二、邀請衛生福利部部長、考試院、行政院人事行政總處針對「所屬機關有關霸凌事件之調查檢討」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
【業務報告及專題報告綜合詢答】) |
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法定人數不足 |
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部長好,那個我想要先請教一下,因為10月9號的時候也有跟部長拜託說因為那個文件站跟那個巷弄長照站的照服員已經五年沒有調新了這個問題,那希望說明年可以一起調整。那當時部長也說會好好瞭解跟規劃,那我要請教一下這個長照司了,因為我 |
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副市長.因為今年加薪4%那明年加薪3%那衛福部有沒有跟你們說說你 |
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﹚陳瑩 |
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我先報告委員,真的很敬佩委員為這個文件展大家的權益來爭取。那這個部分的確我們在指示之下我們都有在詳細的演繹。那這個演繹當中因為牽涉的有一些範圍。是不是我請長掃師跟委員報告。 |
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加薪就是你原來的業務量然後增加了薪水叫加薪嗎?那你如果增加了業務量然後還要增加績效的話那叫什麼?這算加薪嗎?有沒有這樣的附帶條件? |
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或者你們現在不清楚因為我有聽到這樣的消息了解這個狀況我們會做整體的評估我知道你們要做整體評估但是我講的我們對於加薪的定義我想我們先在這裡釐清嘛有必須要增加業務量才可以加薪嗎如果說本來就是整體 |
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增加業務量當然是理論上是應該要加薪那如果說大家都一定有一個制度是一定隨著物價所以怎麼樣再上場的話我想這個也應該都要考慮在內這樣子 |
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好,那個我就做這個提醒,因為這種附帶條件很奇怪,因為我們這次的加薪是整體的。好,謝謝那那個常総司請回。那另外我想我們來看一個這個表啦,因為最近大家在討論這個霸凌調查的這個部分,既有深度又有廣度。那雖然我們不知道是部長是誰給你這樣子的一個深度跟廣度的標準,但是我們看一下, |
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這個表因為這也是目前你們公布然後我們大家看到這個表我這樣放眼過去我唯一我沒有辦法理解就是說這個社工司檢認視察職場霸凌成立記過一次長照司司長不成立但他也記過一次一個成立一個不成立但是都記過一次這個是我們會有很多的疑問跑出來嘛 |
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報告委員現在目前這個部分主要有兩個部分一個就是成立跟不成立 |
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另外一個就是說有關情節輕重。你成立,你成立的話就要符合這一個所謂一般我們有關於霸凌的一個相關的定義。人總有給我們一個,還有其實最主要我們參考那個各個法院的判例。判例裡面大概有三個最主要要件。第一個就是說你在職場當中用詮釋的這個方式發生在職場上面。 |
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長江市市長等這些雖然說他沒有到那個霸凌那個程度但是我們認定他這裡面是有管理事項我是建議你們這樣子好不好因為你們給資料其實我們也沒有很完整資料就看到這個表嘛 |
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你這個表其實會讓我們有很多的質疑你這個表沒有寫好你又不講清楚懲處是什麼懲處所以就變成你們衛福部的調查就沒有公信力啊那衛福部調查衛福部就等於部長沒有公信力嗎所以我只是說你們這個表讓我們非常的疑惑那如果既然是那個你就把它寫清楚你那個表設計是不良的 |
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好,我們有詳細的調查報告那氣勢沒話以後就要到委員的辦公室親自跟委員報告我們時間有限吼那個我我來 |
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對我來直接我們就進入這個加熱菸的議題好了好那個2024年12月16日中午12點左右也就是今天我的助理呢負責這個加熱菸議題的助理呢從台北火車站回到正在回到我們立法院的路上這個好巧不巧呢我們就遇到了這個我們的假署長號 |
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我想要請問因為他遇到那個角署長的時候角署長在路上跟我的助理這樣講我很早就想在路上遇到你了 |
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他有面帶微笑但是這話聽起來很恐怖欸你們要找助理請問各位在找助理你們想要找美國委員的助理你們會在路上立法院以外的路上說我很早就想遇到你了嗎很想在路上遇到你了嗎你們會嗎會的舉手 |
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哇 這話聽起來不寒而栗欸 |
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還是...我不知道啊是平常哪位你們...你們哪位政務官或事務官會遇到助理都會在路上這樣子講還是...還是還是他比較希望看到我的時候這句話是想對我講的我很早就想在路上遇到委員了等一下請吳署長去問他一下 |
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我再請教一下那個正牌的吳署長,你覺得這句話是什麼意思?我真的沒辦法讓他揣測他的想法,但是我絕對不會這樣做,而且我也覺得蠻恐怖的。 |
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對嘛我是說一般正常的人都會覺得不寒而栗啊怎麼會這樣子問呢我只是想要告訴你們我這裡公開講我告訴你們我的加熱菸的這個質詢部分很精彩的部分都是我自己加上去的啊如果很想遇到我我們幾乎最近因為立法院很忙我也幾乎都在研究室再不然我就在委員會 |
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稍後。 |
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可能3億 |
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雖然只是降了3億但是它就是有一個現象意思就是說我加熱煙即便被你們卡住遲遲沒有真正的開放即便修法通過它仍然沒有開放但是奇妙的是止煙的這個煙稅它還是降低的這代表什麼 |
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就代表這個就是一個市場的需求他們就還是會去偷抽嘛我上次不是跟你比了嗎上看下看左看右看那個抓不到的百億的稅都在這裡啊所以你們卡那個是沒有意思的你們卡到了只是真的只是政府的稅收你們再怎麼卡都不會增加那個只淹淹稅的稅收啦 |
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我覺得每一個議題都是真的議題 |
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我每次上來講到加熱因我都點出重要的數據上次是那個百億齁那這一次我點出百分之1.6淹稅下降 |
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加熱煙沒有開放但煙稅、紫煙煙稅是下降的這個數據給你們參考它背後的意義表示什麼那就是說現在就是說因為我還想請教就是說煙害這個煙害防治的工作到底是國民健康署的工作還是這個煙害防治基金的這個工作還是它是這個煙害防治策進會的業務因為 |
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因為主要是這樣子齁我想要釐清一下這個菸害防治策進會是不是國民健康署的這個上司是嗎是還是不是我想菸害防治法在國民健康署是主責單位那部裡面有一個策進會只是針對說我們就是說我們整個菸害防治的時候有一個報告那部長是個召集人 |
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對啦,但是他就是你們的那個整個...應該也不是啦,我是住建議書啦不是嘛,不是你的上司嘛雖然部長是,但是這個測競會不是嘛那所以根據這衛福部你們的這個淹害防治測競會設置要點召集人當然由部長兼任執行長一人是由次長兼任那這個會的這個工作小組就是由國民健康署署長你擔任召集人嘛對不對 |
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所以這個測淨會就是國建署的長官那也就是淹害基金會的頂頭上司那現在要審預算那本席就想了解一下就是說有關於這個淹害這個淹害防治測淨會每年有多少預算可以使用那既然你們說都有這個設立工作小組負責推動淹害防治相關工作那就表示說這個單位應該有這個預算來執行相關的工作 |
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你們明確說這個單位每年有多少預算,然後錢從哪裡來?你們可以講一下嗎?委員指的是測進會這個單位是吧?它就是一個臨時的組織的一個會議而已。 |
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臨時編制的一個會議而已臨時編制的會議那因為這個策經會113年度的會議資料這個單位的經費好像是你們應該是來自這個菸品健康福利捐嘛是來自於這個菸害防治基金啊他沒有特別的預算編耶都沒有對但是他的我是從你們113年度的會議資料那邊看來的喔你們要經費這個菸品的這個健康福利捐 |
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會在這個諮詢會裡面做討論報告會在這裡做討論報告 |
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811.937 |
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839.497 |
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陳瑩 |
IVOD_ID |
158183 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158183 |
日期 |
2024-12-16 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-14 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
14 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-12-16T14:11:28+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-12-16T14:25:27+08:00 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |