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| 委員名稱 |
吳宗憲 |
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10:43:26 - 10:53:42 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-12-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會公聽會（事由：「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法等案」公聽會） |
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張啟凱委員 |
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當年你回過頭去看大法官的說法為什麼大法官認為說這個沒有信賴保護的問題大法官是說當然要信賴保護啊但是因為年改他因為公益的需求所以這個改革不會有信賴保護的問題 |
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他為了公益要犧牲其實這個是說不過去的齁我先跟大家講兩個小故事第一個是我還擔任立法委員之前有一次我去花蓮玩坐計程車我去花蓮地院找一個同學然後計程車司機就跟我狂罵他也不知道我是誰他就狂罵說 |
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執政黨的兩岸政策害入客沒有來他們沒有生意然後本來還有一些退休的公務員會去花東去泡泡溫泉去玩就年改之後連這個都沒有了那其實也就是說有非常多的政客總是把問題限縮在一個小小的點上面他告訴你說這個基金將幾乎會破產但是他沒有告訴你其實就像 |
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前勞動部長說的撥補也是一種改革啊對不對那為什麼你不去對於公務員的這個部分去做有效的撥補你反而把多收到的稅就還給人民啊這是為了什麼其實就是為了你的選舉而已他不是為了一個公平正義的存在那很多人都在罵先然後最後他做什麼就是搞階級 |
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148.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
149.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
169.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
195.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
他叫我回家做那我是跟他抗拒嘛那月薪他從30萬跟我談到50萬我還是不理他那我去選擇一個司法官當檢察官我當了20年的檢察官一個月就是零十幾萬那為什麼這麼大的數字差距我又願意選擇在公部門好好服務當然一部分是理想第二個部分我考量的是司法官有一個穩定的退休我希望我在退休之後不要再為三餐煩惱那這也是很多公務員當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
197.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
223.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
放棄外面高薪去走向公務部門的一個主要原因尤其我們那個時代律師一年入許很少他不像現在入許率比較高所以那個時候的律師本來你在外面就業的薪水就遠高於你在法院或地檢署的薪水所以等到最後大家要退休的時候政府告訴你一句不好意思當初所有都不算其實這個怎麼會沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
224.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
224.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
246.283 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
246.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
272.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
272.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
284.741 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
285.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
21世紀最貴的是什麼? |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
285.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
285.681 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
其實最貴的是人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
314.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
314.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
332.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
343.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
我們從一個比例上面來看這幾年報考從11年前到現在高普考然後大學應屆畢業生狂減了86%這是一個多可怕的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
348.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
366.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
所以當你國家需要一流的人才來協助我們管理這個國家的時候就你政府的想法是什麼反正一個蘿蔔一個坑有一個缺有一個人來考就好了他也不管你這是幹嘛這個在實質在掏空這個國家所以搞到最後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
368.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
368.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
394.108 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
394.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲議員吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
414.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
438.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
那你怎麼有辦法讓新進的人相信有一天他還能夠收到生活上的保障所以現在政府拿在職的公務員去鬥退休的公務員但是這些在職的公務員我跟大家報告也不是笨蛋他有去想說現在你搞一次年改降到現在剩下67.5%那會不會等我退休的那一天剩下50% |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
439.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
466.363 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
這不是不會存在阿因為我們現在就是有政府就是可以就是亂砍砍砍到現在67.5當年本來考試院的版本地板值是70欸但是他現在要給你砍到60而且是立法院裡面的立法委員的希望把他砍到60而且是現在的執政黨希望砍到60這樣對嗎連考試院的版本都不敢砍到這樣就是政客們在那邊砍其實這是對不起對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
467.364 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
467.384 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
485.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
499.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
一直以來我擔心的很多狀況我剛有提到國家財政不佳的時候所有的人都能共提時間但是當今天國家財政好的時候那是不是應該要有所改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
500.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
526.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
甚至你要去思考最近這幾年通膨這麼嚴重的狀況下為什麼我們還不好好的去想該怎麼做而是就是一句話不能撥補然後講一堆有的沒有的然後搞了一堆譬如說能源政策錯誤之下幾千億就這樣賠光光然後將來還要面對很多高額的碳稅以及高失業率然後企業因為生產成本增加而必須外移政府沒有在給你管這個東西所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
528.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
554.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
我實在不認為說把一個年改這個議題把它限縮到只是這個基金能不能夠永續就好像當做一切拿這個來說罪你應該是通盤的去思考國家的財政以及通膨的問題那為什麼我一直強調國家財政要思考因為請各位去看一下大法官的解釋大法官對於年改為什麼沒有損害到信賴保護他就認為說因為是公益需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
556.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
575.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
公益需求存在於國家財政有困難的時候你可以叫全國人民大家一起擔但是當國家財政每年超出那麼多今年甚至要到4千億他就還是跟你講不能那這時候我想大家都不能接受最後我還是希望一個健全的制度一個可受信賴的政府這個是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
576.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
576.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
591.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
614.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
不是所謂的基金要永續而是國家要永續只有國家有一流人才國家才能壯大壯大的國家才能保護我們不要再給我騙什麼抗中保來講一些五四三然後來總是用那個東西來來掩飾自己錯誤的政策還有為了選舉的利益然後總是拿這個東西來騙人好這邊謝謝各位謝謝各位專家今天來給我們的指導 |
| IVOD_ID |
158164 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158164 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2024121150 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會公聽會（事由：「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法等案」公聽會） |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-16T10:43:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-16T10:53:42+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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