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| 委員名稱 |
林淑芬 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:39:58 - 11:07:55 |
| 影片長度 |
1677 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請衛生福利部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、邀請衛生福利部部長、考試院、行政院人事行政總處針對「所屬機關有關霸凌事件之調查檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【業務報告及專題報告綜合詢答】） |
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主席各位大家早是不是請我們邱部長部長早你當過立委嗎那你現在擔任部長所以你應該清楚立法權跟行政權的差異吧 |
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你知道公共工程會在9月下旬預告修正採購評選委員會組織準則第4條之一它主要就針對考量各級民意機關、民意代表 |
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擔任機關採購案的評選委員．有造成行政權和立法權．兩者混淆衝突的可能．所以進行修法．那部長你知道這個事情嗎?你知道這件事嗎?我沒有瞭解到那麼詳細．但是這樣的方向是對的這件事這麼大條你有沒有看過?好吧?方向是對的你認為有沒有必要? |
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你覺得他們這樣修正有沒有必要?不知道。 |
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民意代表不能夠去擔任啊應該是這樣子啊因為我們從小公民課本就教學生啊三權分立或是五權分立嘛立法權跟行政權本身就有各自的權責啊憲法第63條你知道我們當立委的立法院有議決、法律案、預算案、戒嚴案、大設案、宣戰、構合、條約案及國家其他重要事項之權嘛 |
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我們立法院就是在這樣的一個基礎上和範圍上來監督行政權所以民意代表同時擔任行政機關各類審議的委員當然不合理啊 對不對 |
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對阿所以工程會才會預告修正這個草案的原因也在這裡然後社會輿論也討論過了大家都覺得不合理阿那就你了解你覺得不合理嘛衛福部有沒有類似這樣的狀況 |
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有沒有?你就你組織來,有沒有?對啊,你的評選委員啊,各類的行政組織的委員會的運作,你行政部門的各類的組織的各委員會的運作有沒有這種狀況,你知不知道? |
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主席委員好衛福部目前我們所知這個事情是沒有那所屬機關到目前為止沒有報過來過你說所屬機關怎樣沒有報上來過衛福部都沒有所屬機關你不知道意思是這樣子嘛來你不知道我給你報備來啦我們PowerPoint的給他看一下啦你看有人就自動上去了 |
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有人自動上台了我都還沒有請署長上台他自己就上台了 |
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署長自己知道啦健保署下的相關會議全民健康保險藥物共同擬定會議這個會議這麼重要哦重要哦他在決定啊什麼藥物要不要納入健保給付這個會議就是標準的行政權啊有行政決策權啊 |
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這樣的一個會議裡面,這個共領會議,簡稱共領會議,現在,現在,仍然有專家委員,號稱專家委員是現職的民意代表。23、24年,兩年的名單。 |
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結果暴力法院今年2月報到以後他也沒有辭職以自己黨的最高道德標準來看他決定要辭職他沒有辭了他沒有辭的狀況裡面 |
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開了七次會議請假三次他自己請假三次參與四次我並不想針對他但是單純就事論事我在這裡提醒衛福部你們在各個機關下的審議會議設置要點或辦法當中要不要需不需要把民意代表是不是擔任相關委員會的委員要不要進行盤點 |
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你們又不要把所有的辦法規定回去改一改,避免立法權跟行政權混亂混淆。部長。好,謝謝委員的主教。我們會回去做整體的檢討。你不敢說要改,你要檢討。什麼叫檢討? |
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檢討就是要改的然後要怎麼改你的各個委員會還有立法委員在裡面擔任委員嗎立委又兼行政決策權然後又說他來監督行政部門你自己都行政決策權然後監督你說要回頭去監督行政部門這不是笑話嗎署長你怎麼說要改 |
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跟委員報告剛好這個任期也到了我們現在正在全面的檢討那個下一任就是明年 二五二六會不會再有立委擔任委員我們會審慎的審慎你不敢說不會你不敢說不會你還要續聘他嗎 |
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因為我們現在委員都還沒有這個委員佔了一個民間代表的缺他用民間代表的身份進去裡面當委員据有行政決策權 |
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人家民間都沒其他的人啊。一會兒在裏面,自己就可以監督行政機關了。還有理由在民間的發言機制代表民間去佔位子嗎?再來,立委以專家學者的身份在你們的會議裡面發言,我問你啦,這個立委對你預算有生殺大權。你們在開會的時候, |
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你敢對他所的意見提出不同意見嗎?他可以監督行政機關：有掌握你們的預算權：很多人都只能夠接受他所提出來的意見這一種立委當委員你們敢違逆他的意見嗎?你現在不跟我說嗎?跟委員報告一句話有這種立委做委員的嗎?不要說人啦!不一定是他啦! |
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你敢敢敢的什麼呢?立委自己做、立委自己去行政院內、行政部門內做委員又有行政決策權又有立委對行政的預算監督權都一共的贏 |
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現在還有嗎?你這麼不敢說?不會啦 這個跟委員報告當然過去這個陳委員齁長期是我們專家委員是我們專家會議的委員很久長期單院立委的時候就應該要知道角色衝突違反三權分立又是行政權又是立法權又是行政決策權又有立法院的監督預算權像話嗎? |
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你現在是他會代言的嗎,署長?不是針對他,我們就事論事。制度面!制度面改一改了啦!人家看到工程會被社會討論得沸沸揚揚了! |
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你們都還在那裏恃若無睹 部長你不知道 部長你的輸掉根本不知道 明明都知道 但是他有什麼不敢得罪立委 他的委就是因為是立委啦 所以不敢給他拿掉啦 這就是為什麼需要改革 這個就是為什麼今天輪到我在這裏當壞人的原因嘛 |
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來你自己主動改革的甘需要關起來我都叫做派人所以這個由此可知啊立委又兼行政部門的委員多麼的多麼的憤 憾格多麼的衝突多麼的不合理 |
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市長,您要回去改改,都要改改啦,好不好?好,我們會檢討來改進。好,那很好。那我要問下一個問題。下一個問題也很嚴重。一個女子在中山區某連鎖醫美中心打電波拉皮。麻醉後血氧濃度下降,送醫搶救不至。然後麻醉醫師就出來呼籲,所有類型的醫美麻醉都應該由麻醉專科醫師執行。我們大家看到都說奇怪,怎麼這麼嚴重? |
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部長,你12月9日出席衛福部活動的時候有受訪。你說,如果相關專科醫學會有任何建議,你們會立即召開討論,進一步強化規範。我現在問你,過去十年裡面,因為醫美麻醉而導致死亡的案例和案件數量有多少? |
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一件事我相信你今天在看來說這問題有多嚴重啊會覺得一個個案過去十年過去十年因為醫美麻醉而死亡多少案例?報告委員我想我們品質安全就是這不是啦你就告訴我數量就好了不要講東講西的啦一、四、四你不知道你們看到這個個案發生你們都無動於衷嗎? |
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統計數據這次在過去裏面是沒有的,這缺點先跟...沒有,可是你看到個案發生了,你不會想說我快要看了,你看醫事司司長,你不會想到說這個問題有多嚴重嗎?去做電波拉皮的女性有多少、男性有多少,你不會覺得風險有多少跟你醫事司的業務有關,你不會聯想到嗎?你不覺得你有保護人民的權利義務、權利嗎? |
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所以我們這次是先了解到使用的藥物是所謂的POPOPO這個藥物是需要做…市長!你不要跟我講你有多關心啦!連一年多少個案發生麻醉死亡在醫美裡面你不知道我覺得你很害怕啦!我再問你一下你總是要去分析這些醫美麻醉產生醫療糾紛的案例的亂象有哪些吧那你才能想說你要怎麼去改善這一些亂象吧 |
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你怎麽不能向你們部長說,誒,待會兒麻醉醫學會,醫學會來歡迎起來我就來討論。誒,中央沒有掌握問題,沒有分析亂象,然後叫醫學會、民間組織提對策,這樣不好做,您這醫事室司長太好做啊,您這部長太好做啊,如果這樣我林淑芬就可以來做啊。 |
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報告委員真的我從我以前擔任醫師公會的幹部以後我非常清楚這整個醫美的管理所以這大概這10年來醫師是真的非常用很多的心因為醫美麻醉產生的糾紛 |
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到底有多嚴重啊?你說你們很勇敢啊!你們說你們很多人在管理啊!你就告訴我問題有多嚴重?你說不出來說你們很勇敢在這裡睜眼說瞎話嘛!我跟你講安全就最重要可是你連安全的課題你都沒有掌握 |
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你現在根據特定醫療技術檢驗醫療儀器施行或使用管理辦法第25、29只有執行第25條的第7、第8大類第7項8大類特定美容醫學手術的全身麻醉或非全身麻醉的靜脈注射麻醉你們才規定要有麻醉專科醫師執行你們認為中度及輕度的這個鎮靜麻醉不需要專科醫師執行 |
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然後你們在這裡就告訴我們說來怎麼都很注重安全而這一次出事情的你們都知道是用所謂舒眠麻醉這一種話術讓消費者讓去做電波拉棉覺得說舒眠睡一下而已嘛舒眠麻醉然後其實你們打的是牛奶針你們自己都知道這個叫婆婆佛牛奶針 |
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麻醉專科醫師蘇柏川表示,市面上主張的牛奶針大多都是深度鎮靜。現實上,只要俗稱牛奶針的Provo,都應該全部要找麻醉專科醫師。 |
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中度鎮靜容易因為外界刺激減少或病患個人的因素瞬間會掉到深度鎮靜而病患在深度鎮靜的時候如果發生呼吸道阻塞只有5分鐘可以搶救所以站在安全的立場你們說你們管很多你們這一點就完全中放沒得管 |
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所有的麻醉這種使用到牛奶針全部要麻醉專科醫師您沒有規範高雄長庚醫院麻醉部教授及的主治醫師吳少群有說醫美打電波清醒可以講話叫做中度鎮靜 |
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打電波完全睡著叫深度鎮靜而深度鎮靜是最危險的一種麻醉方式非常容易呼吸抑制或心血管中樞抑制只有具專業的麻醉專科醫師在床監測才能確保病人安全 |
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食藥署自己也說：食藥署的先翁稿說牛奶這一需要由專業醫師給藥使用過程必須由醫療人員持續監測病患的心臟及呼吸功能避免因藥物過量導致呼吸衰竭而死亡而台灣在2020年當時的麻醉醫學會的理事長陳坤寶他在撰寫美容醫學這個麻醉的時候也提到 |
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靜脈全身麻醉是現行美容醫學為整形也漸漸在使用全身麻醉作為主要麻醉的方式是一種趨勢喔!欸!為整形現在很流行全身麻醉靜脈全身麻醉喔!你敢這樣管然後呢一定要有麻醉專科醫師在場否則一旦出事不堪後果不堪設想 |
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同一個醫生． |
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同時執行兩項業務部長你覺得合適嗎?我又是麻醉科醫師我同時執行麻醉我又做電波拉皮的手術我同時在做這個手術你覺得一個醫生做兩個工作適合嗎?同時有關於這一點應該要有兩位醫師在處理 |
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對,台灣麻醉醫學會吳少群李氏在他寫的 |
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常見的麻醉迷思和安全建議如下實務上手術醫師因為要專注在手術如果又分心兼職麻醉常常因為受製者會動而他就會一直加深劑量或是給到受製者不動了卻忘了要頻繁監測受製者的生理治療重新評估一條降維持劑量 |
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我們規定就是要兩位醫師 |
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沒有啦,你的手術都沒有規定要麻醉專科醫師在那裡了,還什麼兩位醫師?你的手術本身就沒有規定要專科醫師執行麻醉了,還什麼兩個醫生?所以這樣你知道嗎?不好意思主席,你讓我這個主題問完了,這是一個安全的問題,我快說好了。所以我現在說這個這樣 |
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1081.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1105.026 |
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你覺得醫美診所為了省下那個錢買來要加上沒規定衛福部醫事師沒有規定啦對醫美沒有這麼多規定啦那不要再講這個你知道各縣市喔核准施行特定美容醫學手術的醫療機構一共有幾家嗎醫美診所到今年全國有幾家你知道嗎應該是700多家 |
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合準實行特定手術的啦。700多家。那你知道麻醉科人數全國一共有多少人嗎? |
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1141.901 |
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一千六百個不要講大醫院職業也不要講說有執照然後他會就業的光是你的醫美診所七百多家那大醫院的麻醉手術要怎麼進行所以台灣的麻醉專科醫師的量能夠嗎扣掉你說的七百多家的醫院他可以配置足夠的麻醉專科醫師嗎如果大家連個法律給丟回去大家都愛麻醉科醫師 |
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欸?幹嘛搞? |
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所以部長你剛剛講的不可以手術醫師兼任麻醉業務這個叫驚罵醫美診所的常態在每次的醫美診所發生麻醉事故以後呢你們到底有沒有真的去反省每一次的不幸的事故都要成為你政策上除錯的反省的機制啊那你們剛才從剛才問到現在都沒有 |
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您們有一個什麼東西可以把關醫美診所?我先補充幾件事。第一件事情陳國剛那個人在推詢的麻醉其實基本上面他為什麼要做危險分級的原因就是因為人力要用在最適當的位置那也因為這樣其實是由另外一個受過專業訓練的 |
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其實所以訓練一起在協助醫生這才是重點你們的特定醫療技術檢查檢驗醫療儀器施行或使用的管理辦法只有第25條的第7項的八大類的特定美容醫學手術需要具備這個麻醉專科醫師啦而你們所謂的中度或輕度的鎮靜麻醉沒有規定啦他有需要訓練這個有寫 |
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有訓練：現在就講手術醫師跟麻醉不能同一個人啦：這也是寫在裡面：這個就是最大的風險啦：現在寶弟我再跟你問啦：你們醫策會2019年其實有鑑於診所人力醫院資源不如醫院充足且沒有醫院評鑑這一種東西： |
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所以為了推升診所整體美容醫學服務品質你們辦了一個診所美容醫學的品質認證就是以安全為基軸要強調專業人員的資格資訊的透明、環境的安全專業及安全的醫療行為突發事件緊急應變措施及客訴處理追蹤服務等就是你講的來反正你們做這些醫美診所的要去認證安全結果呢 |
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你全部認證和有通過你們認證的有幾家你知道嗎現在應該診所的部分好像剩30幾家左右30幾家41家我看的是41家你全部你說700多家只有41家從2019年到現在5年了 |
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五年你全部獲得認證的比例低成這個樣子叫做你們重視醫美診所的安全你這樣說出來是笑話嘛所以呢全台核准的施行特定美容醫學手術機構這些診所是不是都安全 |
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你們的認證率這麼低,不到一成。你說這樣的醫美診所的品質足夠叫做安全嗎?你們的認證都是最基本的、最核心的。含你的認證的不敢參加。 |
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而由此可知外面的醫美診所的品質安全多麼堪憂啊!我補充一下其實就是法規是樓地板,品質的要求是天花板所以在這個中間的...你賣大家玩文字遊戲! |
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那如果這麼樣子的話為什麼你認證五年的時間認證只有四十一家他在這邊其實是會牽涉到就是我覺得要問你這個不要講那麼多出事的這一家醫美診所有沒有通過你們認證你回答我應該是沒有應該是 阿來有勒這因為我不確定 |
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蘇百川醫師來講喔你們在這個認證是以安全為基礎保障人民就醫的安全但是參與的診所偏少然後這個認證的項目分成兩類哪兩類 |
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| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
新聞報告及專題報告 |
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| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
這位蘇偉川講的 |
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沒有所屬是診所自行去選填他要認證哪一類是要光電類還是手術類但是呢電波拉皮就是光電治療不會在醫策會現行診所的麻醉鎮靜安全查核的範圍內所以他如果認證為光電類認證何可 |
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| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
也不保證他的麻醉鎮靜安全的安全因為醫策會沒有集合這一個項目另外申請手術類人家醫美診所也有偷吃包我只要去選割雙眼皮就好了 |
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1471.705 |
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因為割雙眼皮不在特管法規範的手術內．所以為依這位去認證．也不會特別去查有沒有符合麻醉規範．老實說啦,醫美診所．再去接一個麻醉專科醫師． |
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給開的大家都要寫這個字這個成本然後呢大家寫我光電類認證過了但是你的麻醉安全沒有其實政府不要管你我手術類認證過了但我申請的是雙眼皮然後消費者看不見看不見電波拉皮的光電類嘛然後你以為他手術安全認證了這麼好那我就選有認證的結果他的認證只有選割雙眼皮 |
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不然這樣你聽得到嗎?你都不知道,你的問題很嚴重。你一、四、五、六、七、八、九、十幾年,個案發生了還是有動於中?沒有想到我整體的醫美診所、醫美的這一些要怎麼規範都沒在想,就要你為了這給你提起。不然這樣提起後,你聽得到嗎?要解釋嗎? |
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市長,那你在這裡承諾,市長你覺得就哪幾面向你要處理?我會覺得是第一個第一件事情其實是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
那一個醫生同時執行麻醉又執行手術那要怎麼處理? |
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| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
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現況就是規定在美濃醫學這邊是不行的所以我才會說落實規定這件事情你們要去集合嗎?全國你說如果不行大家都這樣做呢那很簡單喔你去要求他執行這個叫電波拉皮執行什麼手術的然後他的專科醫師有用到這個蒸的牛奶蒸的 |
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那她的醫師有使用麻醉科醫師嗎?麻醉科醫師有沒有蓋章?全國總機察就知道了啊,絕對沒有的嘛我會覺得是說落實這一塊其實是所有醫界都會很關心的然後怎麼樣在人力上面做到我現在講的是行政管理啦,行政管理沒有行政管理、沒有法規就等於是沒好大家講什麼都假 |
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現在特管辦法裡面的美容醫療這一塊的輕度到中度就是需要兩個人的這件事情我覺得是我們可以來做弱勢的一項人家醫學會告訴你只要有牛奶針就絕對是必須要有麻醉科醫師啦不是一個人分四兩角啦對啊然後也不是中度的啦中度同時還要再把它煮下去讓它沒丁沒丁才比較好吸收對不對融液這個問題很嚴重你們要好好想一下 |
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謝謝林淑芬 |
| IVOD_ID |
158159 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158159 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-14 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-16T10:39:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-16T11:07:55+08:00 |
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