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委員名稱 |
蔡其昌 |
委員發言時間 |
10:29:32 - 10:40:11 |
影片長度 |
639 |
會議時間 |
2024-12-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請國家運輸安全調查委員會主任委員林信得列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國家運輸安全調查委員會單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部運輸研究所單位預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部鐵道局及所屬單位預算。
五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金─鐵道發展基金分預算。
【僅進行詢答;委員預算提案於12月25日中午12時前截止收件】) |
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謝謝主席先請交通部陳部長陳部長林所長好林居國所長部長早所長早這個今天本席就教幾個問題第一個就是我們那個ADS先進駕駛輔助系統 |
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所長執行的成果怎麼樣過去在國道上面執行嗎是跟委員報告一下我們前兩年在國道執行當然就是幫業者去開發出來一個所謂的一個分析的一個平台工具也就是說後續他們業者可以直接就是利用ADAS還有這個一些行車影像的資料直接就可以去找出到底他所寫的哪些駕駛員他在什麼樣的一些 |
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道路的一個情況之下比較會有一些不適當的駕駛行為那可以作為教育訓練的一個工具那進度上面我們實際在運用了嗎?國道的客運業國道客運我們那個114年度我們準備就是要實際找一家業者來輔導他們來移轉給他們做使用 |
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好,所以國道,你要從國道跟市區道路是同時做還是分開做?前兩年是先開發國道的這個分區平台。對,明年開始做市區。然後明年同時做市區跟福島。那這個福島的計畫好了之後,對於這個ADAS系統在行車安全上面, |
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你先會讓他們熟悉嘛然後也讓AI辨識度data多了他的辨識精準度就高嘛那實際在運用上面你覺得時間時程會落在什麼時候我想明年我們實際就是會找業者來做這一個示範嘛到時候就可以從這個過程當中我知道示範我知道但你覺得這個 |
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這樣的系統普遍的運用在國道的客運跟市區的公車上面時間大概還要多久? |
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我預估大概三到五年十成盡量掌握啦如果這是一個有用的技術因為我們都知道這個系統裝上去如果成效好的話事實上對於國道客運特別在市區啦你看市區很多的這種車禍對行人公車去撞到行人等等 |
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如果這個系統你們經過測試、教育訓練都可以成功,那未來勢必對於行人受到公車、大型巴士傷害的機率就下降。人民關天啦,這有好的事情,要早一點做、快一點做。我們加速。對,這都講實際的啦,除了有的,我聽都覺得那個就... |
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但是這次馬上可以立即改善我們很多你看這種死角啦公車在開在過程裡面司機沒有去注意到科技的發展協助這個公車的駕駛讓保障行人的安全這個很重要好不好首長114年度這預算要趕快去執行怎麼去縮短 |
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總議長請回,請我們主委。 |
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各位有關那個運安會我想多次我們在我辦公室我們有協調過有瞭解過那我其實有些數據趁著今天部長也在這個運安會第一個在事故調查暫期暫期率高達 |
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高達65%這個很多的研究都顯示這個時間過長這個我也曾經跟你就教過那你也跟我提出包括這個運安會人力不足啦等等的問題你們要 |
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不是像其他單位不是說其他單位隨便調查意思是說運安會非常認真調查所以你覺得時程都會久但是這個數字看起來並不好看你看這個運安會運輸事故調查的暫期情形你看這個暫期的比率從航空的23水路的76道路的63公路的13然後合計平均大概65這時間大家感覺很長所以那個 |
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主委,這個有沒有可能可以縮短的這種可能性存在嗎?各位報告齁,這個展期率的統計它是從一開始成立的時候,它就算一直算到去年底。對,沒錯。那,因為我們這個院會成立的時候有三個主要因素是這樣子。我們成立的時候是要用人嘛,招考人來。 |
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五、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部運輸安全調查委員會單位預算 |
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三、審查114年度三、審查114年度三、審查114年度三、審查114年度 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於 |
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第三個問題呢這個齁 |
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我們提的因為運安會的調查報告結果就是要求行政單位來改善那我看一下這個要求要改善建立的事項在所謂分項執行計畫列管情形這個列管比例 |
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這個列管比例都還有20幾%、10幾%甚至列管年限還有三年以上的一個事情要列管三年像我不知道三年以上哪一個案子像航空三年以上的就有五件嘛鐵道就有九件都是列管三年以上 |
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為什麼會列管這麼久?是你列管的有問題還是交通部執行的有問題? |
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那個完成率的這個數字的顯示,最主要被幾個大數字拉下,譬如說,譬如說高雄機場他的那個跑法道的安全區他要改善,他要編列預算要編好幾年。譬如說台中機場那個區前干擾,也是一樣他跑法道需要檢查,要改善的話國防部編預算也是編了很多年,他就掛在那邊。好OK,你如果說他就在做了, |
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它已經在執行了預算也照年度編列了你們這個列管的方法要不要調整一下這很難看嘛這個事情一直在列管三年以上還在列管三年以上列管如果你沒有告訴我我認為他就是不做三年都不做那第二種解釋方式是不對他已經在做了他已經做三年了但還沒有做完所以我還在列管 |
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對,委員你講的是重點,確實沒有錯。我們在行政院開會的時候,我們也跟政委報告說,譬如說台鐵,他已經有編了預算,那我們也看得到他的進入往前在走,那我們就會建議說這個就不要列關了。可是,像剛剛講的,台中青年康國防部編預算、明昌市高雄機場編預算、買土地 |
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單位預算案關於交通部運輸安全調查委員會單位預算 |
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我持續關注你的進度你沒有我就把你放到列管你沒有按照你的進度走我就回到列管但你只要按照進度走我應該是另外一種列管方式這樣我們立委在監督齁才不會每天看到這種看到這種三年以上我都會覺得懷疑是現在是怎樣交通部沒要理他就對了完全不鳥你運安會嗎不是嘛所以你要讓我們知道什麼事情他不鳥你的 |
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那我們該冤有頭再有主就要該怎麼監督那有一些是人家已經只著手在進行案子他就一定要做5年那你簡單講明年還有那個列管4年的因為他要做5年嘛我的意思是這樣你懂我意思嗎我們來檢討一個其實如果他進行中看得見了你應該有另外一種追蹤列管的方法而不是通通統合在一個好像都沒有做的那種列管裡面 |
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這樣好不好?這樣我們才有辦法監督嘛,不然這個數字看了我都覺得很離譜的,三年以上還有五件,還有鐵道還有九件,要怕死人啊,現在是怎樣?運安會說的話都沒人要聽就對了。這個不行啊,這個運安會的報告要改善的就是要確保我們交通載具的安全,這是維護人民生命財產的重大事情。是這樣好不好?這樣我們才有能力去監督嘛。好,謝謝,謝謝委員。 |
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日期 |
2024-12-16 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-15 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
15 |
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委員會 |
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23 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
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開始時間 |
2024-12-16T10:29:32+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-12-16T10:40:11+08:00 |
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