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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:24:19 - 12:30:52 |
| 影片長度 |
393 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請勞動部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於勞動部主管預算。(公務及基金預算)
三、審查勞動部函送財團法人職業災害預防及重建中心114年度預算書案。
【所列預算案，僅詢答，113年12月9日下午5時截止收案】
【業務報告及討論事項綜合詢答】） |
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主席國務委員有請部長請紅部長也請那個快遞室快遞處嗎你們叫主計處勞動部我們快遞處快遞處好這位好好那個部長恭喜你不用說恭喜好我們看今天的這個基金這個遍列的預算就安定基金 |
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那救援安定基金的用途啊救援安定基金的用途寫得非常的明確這個部長救援安定基金收支保管及應用辦法第一個它是行政院主計總處這個發布施行的啊發布施行所以這個在整個基金管理委員會有主計總處的人 |
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然後請問一下會計處處長請問一下這個當然前面都已經提到過的就是舉辦營業會對不對365萬多元舉辦營業會請問一下在簽到要送到這個 |
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管理委員會審議的時候之前是不是管理組要先審查?業務單位會先簽合給你們嗎?還是直接就送來管理委員會?跟委員報告這個部分那個我們業務單位在要決定要舉辦這個音樂會的時候其實他都有照相關的行政程序有簽合到首長 |
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要經過你嗎?我現在問的是,我現在替部長去讓他瞭解,怎麼會講不清楚呢?要送到這個就案基金管理委員會審議之前,內部要先簽合,對不對? |
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是,是。我也要先,要不要先回你? |
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如果是涉及到採購的話當然會啊要動資金費都要匯會會啊我說說這個程序要讓部長瞭解一下這個程序他要送到就按基金管理委員會審議之前要不要先內部先簽合要要先經過會議處嗎是好部長你要去瞭解瞭解什麼呢就是這個程序 |
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會計處有沒有盡到責任?會計處要去審查這些東西啊。到底符不符合就業安定基金的用途。這是最基本的。那個政務員我認為這恐怕也不只是會計處的責任啦。我沒有我只是責任很多因為大家都在談那個之前的委員的質詢大概都在談 |
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第一個當然是部長嘛第二個就是這個委員會有沒有好的審議嘛基本上如果會計處都都隨便蓋章那就是錯誤的包括你看好我問一下處長會議處處長這些像這個這個辦公室的採購案在這個兩千多萬 |
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兩千兩百五十萬在就業安定基金的預算裡面呢當年度的預算書有沒有變這麼多預算書沒有變那麼多跟委員報告這個部分我們是在我們的勞動力發展署的資訊設備相關的這個科目之下所做的一個所以不是就業安定基金是就案基金是就案基金是啊有這麼多嗎變這麼多嗎 |
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一定是在我們的預算的不是啊我問你有沒有變那麼多預算數預算數處長你也不知道好這樣好不好好不好那個這樣這些確實都是用救安救安基金來支付的這個我已經確認過了對處長我要我要快速處長你很重要是我是老公務員啊 |
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基本上第一關就是你們的可不可以動資這個經費第一關就是你們這個是很重要因為你是一條邊什麼叫一條邊呢你是勞動部部長是管不了你的你要一條你是一條邊你是行政院主計總署指派的對不對處長是不是所以你很重要所以顯然這個機制有問題嘛 |
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這機制有問題。如果他們都沒有表示意見,那就是虧欲書的問題。如果他們有表示意見,那是部長的問題。好,你回去也查一下。這個這些有沒有比預算數還高的?你有知道嗎現在?可以現在回答嗎?有沒有比預算數還高的?當年度的預算數。 |
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為什麼我要問這個呢提供資料給我有時候出在操之並結算有一個機制操之並結算 |
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這個機制是最糟糕的、最容易出問題的,操之並決算。 所以這個部分時間的關係本來還有很多議題要談,下次再跟部長提供相關的意見給你。 |
| IVOD_ID |
158043 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158043 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-13 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-09T12:24:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-09T12:30:52+08:00 |
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