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| 委員名稱 |
邱鎮軍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:49 - 10:05:58 |
| 影片長度 |
609 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請勞動部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於勞動部主管預算。(公務及基金預算)
三、審查勞動部函送財團法人職業災害預防及重建中心114年度預算書案。
【所列預算案，僅詢答，113年12月9日下午5時截止收案】
【業務報告及討論事項綜合詢答】） |
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主席好。一樣有請我們洪部長。請洪部長。 |
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謝謝邱委員部長好那個我看了一下我們那個勞動部在11月有宣布對親身公務員追封勞動獎章那會爭取因公傷亡的這個撫恤補償但是上個星期全序不確鎖他們還沒收到勞動部的這個文件這是什麼原因 |
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當然因為我們現在當然在重啟調查啦齁那我們現在會把重啟調查裡面一些更多的事實的釐清再重啟調查的結果發布以後那該怎麼樣來幫這公務員徵取的部分我們都會盡力根據我們那個公務人員退休這個之前撫恤法第52條齁那自殺身亡的比照病故或意外死亡認定所以你們準備要用什麼樣的理由 |
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就是我們會先等這週的調查報告的內容出來以後那後續該幫這一位無信公務員爭取的我們都會盡力的來爭取所以你重啟調查了嗎對不對對現在重啟那你現在找到適合的法條了沒有 |
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法條就是就是呃我們會先看就我們我想說我們會來把重啟調查的內容我們先向社會大眾來報告然後因為我不管要爭取什麼東西都還是要基於這一位無性公務員在生前他經歷的什麼他遇到了什麼所以 |
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這個調查報告的公布﹖所以你們是要把這個責任就給循序部去認定﹖不是 這不是循序部去認定循序部當然是這個輔敘的主管的機關但我們會等調查報告出來以後向社會報告以後我們會拿著這些內容來盡力的幫無性公務員爭取好了 因為病故或者是意外死亡 |
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或者是因公死亡復續金額差非常多。勞動部既然已經在第一時間說要替這位公務員來爭取我希望你們說到要做到好不好?當然。另外勞保年金你說不應該只有撥補嗎?你也說不會砍年金但是在你的業務報告裡面看不到你到底要做什麼?還有你的期程規劃是什麼? |
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這個跟邱委員說明齁其實現在勞保年金的水位今年應該有機會可以破一兆嘛齁今年可以破一兆那撥補是維持水位的做法之一 |
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那也不會只有博古所以這幾這幾年的時間我們在多元的投資裡面其實收益的狀況其實也相當不錯那也包括關於納保或給付相關這些東西做法更精進也都有助整個水會所以我的意思是說我們要做的事情第一個確實現在政策上面並沒有砍給付的規劃這是事實 |
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那對於維持基金水位的做法上面我們其實會有各種不同的做法。 因為你報告有寫啦,有撥補投資嘛,強化納保還有給付審核。 對。 那在你上任之前這些都沒有做嗎? |
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也不是沒有做啊,我現在能夠讓基金的水位到兆元之前也有做嘛對不對? |
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也是有的。 可是做了之後為什麼還一直虧損? |
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其實現在今年度我們蔡英文總統執政了8年她一直說要匱極意見那到現在也還是只有撥補那現在你上任你又說要匱極意見凝聚共識我們賴總統他選前也說他一定會解決退休金的問題所以這個部分你有什麼想法還是延續傳統的這樣複製貼上就好了 |
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跟文說明當然不是會是複製貼上我說撥補這部分我們會持續的辦理可是我們維持基金所謂的方法不會只有撥補 |
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包括 檢討基金投資的收益,這都我們持續在做,而且這幾年做得很好。 包括檢討基金投資的收益,這都我們持續在做,而且這幾年做得很好。 勞動部不是一個冰冷的行政單位,要貼近我們勞工的需求。當然。 那希望你們能夠提供有效的解決方案。 那你看到那個三千多名民眾上街頭,還有工人要絕食100個小時等你給答案,這個部分你有什麼感覺? |
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第一個就是我們當然尊重公民社會裡面的各種聲音的表達我覺得這樣啦然後我們也很重視重點是我想讓我一點時間說我們當然非常重視現在大家提出來的訴求尤其是關於霸凌的問題尤其是大家現在也很多提出關於救安基金運用的問題這都是我上任這兩個禮拜以來非常非常大力也花很多時間我們在全力檢討跟推動的事情 |
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他們會走上街頭我這樣看他們就是不接受你們的說法不接受你們的說法那你們一再的回應還是跟之前一樣才會出來走上街頭我想大家都不願意看到這樣子也不願意去做這樣的事情還有包含絕食抗議那愛因斯坦也說過什麼叫做瘋子就是重複同樣的事情 |
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公務及基金預算案關於公務及基金預算案關於公務及基金預算案關於公務及基金預算案關於公務及基金預算案 |
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二、審查中華民國11屆第12會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會及重建中心114年度中央政府總預算案關於勞動部主管預算。 »: |
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公務及基金預算案關於勞動部主管預算：一、邀請勞動部主管預算：僅公務及基金預算案關於勞動部主管預算．僅 |
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我會來跟業務單位來檢討相關這個所以你部長你覺得過去是對的嗎? |
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兩岸的交流互動啊 |
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其實我覺得本來它就存在必要性不要因為政治立場而停擺不要為了反對而反對我們有一個正常的這個溝通交流的一個管道我覺得是非常好的我們就是希望各種我覺得我這邊也不針對只針對中國 |
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而是各種出國的計劃他能夠對於我們業務推動有什麼幫助我會非常非常看重這一點還有最後就是救安基金裡面你們很多東西寫得非常籠統就像固定資產無形資產這幾個項目你們分了4個地方編總共編了8億3千多萬這是要買什麼這是要做什麼 |
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就算基金裡面的媒體事務費就編了兩億一千多萬元等於一個月要花一千八百萬元在這裡面你們就複製貼上這一段相關媒體通路宣傳製作脫波及刊登經費這樣不清不楚的內容你覺得這樣可以過嗎? |
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跟委員報告這個兩億一千七百萬是屬於我們對於各種促進國民就業跟這個外國人拼顧許可管理相關措施的一個相關的一個宣導的一個。 不過你們去買東西都不用問價格或是製作影片還是圖檔還是數量多少脫波哪些平台。 這個部分都會依照結構程序來處理。 反正編下去花完就對了是這樣嗎? |
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那個跟跟文說明還是要給我們的綠媒賺一下呃卻並不是這樣吼呃確實其實在法案署這邊他們有很多政策需要政策跟法令需要讓外界接受到訊息的需求 |
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那但是針對這個相關的計畫編列裡面有沒有哪些它適不適當每個項目適不適當這部分當然我們也在我們會檢討好了你說因為你說過嘛就是說你要找外部人員來把關嘛是那你們2016年9月勞動部這個發展署就新聞發新聞稿說就案基金有外部監督機制 |
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就按基金符合用途沒有復編促進國民就業為主沒有疑慮這之前就在做了所以我不曉得你們會不會找到同樣的人?關於外部的成員是一件事情但還有一個部分是在機制面我自己認為也要從機制面去面對問題跟檢討問題所以除了人以外還有機制 |
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你上次說過一個月要提解決方案,那我希望不要留意形勢,謝謝部長。 |
| IVOD_ID |
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| IVOD_URL |
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| 日期 |
2024-12-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-13 |
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11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
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2024-12-09T09:55:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-09T10:05:58+08:00 |
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