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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
18:45:12 - 19:05:47 |
| 影片長度 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-12-06T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第2會期第1次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為考試院第十三屆院長、副院長及考試委員任期於113年8月31日屆滿，茲依據憲法增修條文第6條第2項規定，提名周弘憲為考試院第十四屆院長，許舒翔為考試院第十四屆副院長，邱文彥、鄧家基、王秀紅、呂秋慧、柯麗鈴、黃東益、伊萬．納威Iwan Nawi 7位為考試院第十四屆考試委員，咨請同意案。） |
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副院長有請伊萬貝提名人請貝提名人答詢委員好我好大家好這個當了四年了四年的考試委員這個剛有特別提到好幾位委員這個都提到 |
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有關原住民行政特考有足以的考試你認為目前足以認證的資格有沒有造成原住民行政特考考生的資格條件的困難 |
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從這個數據就是說從開始實施主委認證作為這個應考人條件以來我確實有發現有一些就是人數有下降但是我有注意到有一些我們有去勾結到勾結到就是說這個原本可能有兩三千人的報考人數 |
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後來為什麼剩下一千多那我有去勾結到這一個部分有留到蒂特有留到高普考所以我認為可能有部分原因跟主語認證有關不管這個未來未來我先說 |
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這個為了因應相關的法律的規定所以原住民主行政特考必須要通過主委的認證一開始考選部所提出來的條文一開始他們的草案是要終極的終極的認證我經過我的協調我召開協調會 |
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我告訴他們要一步一步來因為為什麼我主要的理由他們就接受了為什麼呢在我們的學生考試的主義考試啊考高中考高中高職他是要初級認證考大端驗校以上是要終極認證通過對不對所以我用這個理由因為 |
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考顏名特考有五等對不對他是高中畢業就可以考了考這個四等也是一樣高中畢業就可以考所以你直接用規定終極考終極認證通過那他們就 |
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高中畢業我們當初在升學的考試的時候他就還沒有得到這個部分所以後來考選部同意先從初級初級通過那現在113年嗎要改為中級了對改成中級了已經開始了嗎開始了所以這個部分 |
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這個不管你有沒有當考試委員我們都要一起去探討是不是造成影響當然今年已經考完了嘛所以如果你能繼續當考試委員更要去了解了解很多管道當然已經報名了你再問他沒有用啊你要問誰呢?你剛才有講嘛 |
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你剛才有講說他去轉考其他的比如說高考、普考或是其他的特考對不對可以去問他們對不對可以請考選部去問他們到底是什麼為什麼你不考嚴明特考一樣的一般行政或是一樣的這個什麼列科你為什麼要去考那個還是說他的理由是不想回到原鄉 |
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也有可能啊這個是一個還是說因為是足矣所以這個部分都是必須要去隨時的去了解是不是這樣是我們看這個這幾年110年我們整個原住民行政特考不足而入企的 |
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比例人數真的是相當高110人是57名而最主要的有包含財稅行政、經建行政、農業技術、土木工程這是三等的部分然後在四等的部分也是一樣財稅行政、農業技術、土木工程都不足而相當多的尤其是土木工程而這個土木工程 |
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又是我們原鄉最需要的這些人才無論是縣市政府或者是鄉鎮公所還包含了我一直要求他們要禁用原住民公務人員就是公路總局相關的工程處相關的工程處都是在原住民地區結果他們好不容易提供了這個職缺 |
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但是又一直不足爾所以這個非常非常的可惜我們看111年也是一樣不足爾入企55名這個相關的列科也差不多都是那個列科另外112年很特殊77名112年竟然一般行政還有不足爾入企7個人所以這個部分 |
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在這個過去的你在服務的期間當考試委員這個部分確實是應該要去特別的去了解你看我們112年的四等也是一樣也是一樣土木工程、農業技術這些還有這個經建行政這樣的一個類科我們看113年 |
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一樣很高79名不足而入籍基本上都還在財稅行政、經濟行政、農業技術、土木工程這個是在三等的部分我們看這個四等的部分也是一樣農業技術、土木工程、經濟行政、財稅行政像這樣的一個情形 |
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應該我們原住民﹐不管是立法委員、考試委員﹐或是園民會顯然我們的合作不足為了這樣的議題﹐大家應該拿來討論有時候考試委員﹐沒有辦法跟相關的部會質詢就應該我們要互相交換意見﹐相互討論怎麼樣去協調相關的部會 |
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去解決這個問題不只是什麼幾個例子哈譬如說教育部啊對不對我們這麼多的地方切這些人啊怎麼樣去開這些班啊對不對開這些班在大學、院校增加這些班我是先舉這個方向你有什麼這個還是已經在進行中的 |
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是 跟委員報告就是我在我的今天口頭報告裡面特別提到在2021開始我就建立這個平台那我自己本身也自己拜訪為了這些現象跟教育部跟園民會我都親自去拜會過那因為專班的成立這件事因為高教其實它是一個自主的所以 |
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他們也沒有辦法就是說強迫學校一定要辦什麼所以我們就拜託原民會就是就這個不足耳的這些類科是不是建議給教育部由教育部來看看有哪一些學校可以來辦相關的一些專班因為他們教育部這邊還是需要原民會的意見這個伊萬呢 |
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專班的可行性可能比較緩慢一點不是緩慢就教育部或是各大專院校而言是比較困難因為你要專班的話就要多少人進來這是一個問題我們要共同努力的我也在要求這個教育部 |
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在這個因為因應我們的﹐原住民跟非原住民﹐的大專校院的30%以上的落差現在而且還加大這8年來這8年來﹐原住民與非原住民﹐大專校院的﹐我們就讀的學生的﹐ |
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連漢的落差百分之三十以上而這8年來還增加拉大這個落差雖然當然我這幾年我從這個第8屆開始當立法委員之後一再的協調教育部後來非常感謝葉俊隆當教育部部長很短嘛很短因為卡關後來就離開了所以 |
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這個這麼短的時間他同意去修了這個教育部的有關大專校院外加2%外加2%的部分多了一計劃可以有特殊情形的時候外加5%外加5% |
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所以這個是誰的前者呢就是教育部跟研運會然後要去協調這個大專校院那基本上現在大專校院都不會反對為什麼呢少子女化學生越來越少他還招不滿呢在這樣的情形之下而且是我們是外加外加百分之二 |
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一部分很重要的需求的列科外加5%的話也不影響一般考生的名額你是多幾個位置都沒有問題嘛何況現在是少子女化所以這個部分就是要繼續努力 |
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這個繼續努力我們共同的去協調當然這是我的責任最重要繼續協調教育部、研民會外加百分之五的比如說土木工程我們就外加百分之五每個學校都外加百分之五的話我們的考生這個畢業的學生畢業的學生自然就多了 |
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當然而且為了就業當然他就會有往這方面去考試當然除了這個之外以前台北市研明會還會開班開補習班為了原住民行政特卡早期現在好像都沒有了 |
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跟委員報告這一點原民會有原民會他在鼓勵各縣市提出這個所謂這個考前加強班那確實也有因為這樣子然後考取的所以我們也希望將來原民會還是可以繼續這個做法我們要繼續做共同的協調顯然啦對我們要看他的列科多有沒有再以這個為主啦是他剛好考上那個是土木的 |
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但是還是我們看這個比例當然還是不夠啦組合真的是太多啦不組合入企真的是太多所以這個部分連那個考生都還不如那個呢需用名額對啊考生都還不如需用名額他還是不敢去考報名的還是不敢去考跟委員報告我們也觀察到就是圓明特考的三等特別倒考率特別低 |
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就有100個人報名但是真正去考的剩下一半對這個也是原民學生應考人的信心可能要這個這方面我們可能要再跟教育部也好或者是原民會我們共同來找一個一個可行的一個方案然後鼓勵讓他們報考以外還要倒考 |
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道考還要錄取就是這個部分來配套來協助我們原住民的應考人所以這個部分我們從這樣的一個 |
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整個從110年到113年而且還是正好你在位的時候當考試委員的一個期間這個不足額的名額反而是加大真的是一個非常可惜的就業的一個機會所以這個部分是我們要繼續努力的地方我們共同的去解決 |
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尤其是有這麼好的一個從國民政府時代開始有的山地行政特考到這個有一段時間是中斷了當時我也是一個協助者之一我那時候還是公務人員所以這個部分我們要繼續的來努力好這個很重要的議題這個國家年金 |
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就是軍公教錦霄軍公教錦霄的年金改革當時蔡總統在105年5月20日就任之後不到一個月就成立了國家年金改革委員會這個邀請了 |
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961.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
989.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
各機關相關機關的代表當然包含當時的考試院、行政院也有立法委員、考試委員還有地方政府很重要的就是還包含軍公教的代表還有勞工勞工的代表、移民的代表都有因為當時的國家年輕改革委員會的目標不是只是針對軍公教、警校還包含勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
990.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1013.199 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
因為當時都認為公保要破產了這個勞保要破產了所以要改革開了多少次會議呢20次的會議20次的會議算很多吧應該是有充分的討論經過充分的討論之後考試院考試院 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1021.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1036.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
根據國家年金改革委員會所做的一個會議而且這個是當時的副總統陳建仁所主持的是成績很高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1039.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1068.266 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
然後提出了由考試院在106年3月30號．函請立法院審議這個公務人員退休複習法因為你那時候還沒有在考試院吧你那時候在哪裡元明會的樣子106年2017在元明會你知道你知道考試立法院通過的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1070.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1099.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
有沒有通過考試院的版本沒有關係我來告訴你通過的是段宜康等立法委員所提案的在106年4月7號就是比這個考試院送來的版本還晚了一些時間而這個版本呢很簡單就把考試院的版本呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1100.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1128.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
砍多少就加砍加砍本來砍多少再加砍是這樣的一個版本那因為民進黨當時是絕對多數所以所通過的是段宜康的版本不是總統府大張旗鼓開了20次的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1131.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1160.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
的那個版本不是喔是段宇康的版本因為有這樣的一個情況當然你會說現在是考試立法院在審查但是考試院的意見也很重要也很重要所以我要讓你知道說這個過程是這樣如果按照當時考試院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1161.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1190.608 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
其實就是挺慷慨了這個時候因為現在已經實施好幾年了所以這個部分當然這個議題是蠻是確實是目前是立法院的事情沒有錯所以未來你也必須要去了解這個部分因為如果你繼續當考試委員的話也有人會問你所以這個部分那因為立法院未來的一個實施的審查情形是如何也還不確定也還不知道 |
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1191.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1215.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
也許是等你上任之後所以怎麼樣去說服未來的考試院院長、副院長或是前序部這個都是一個可能性所以這個部分是有這樣的一個狀況最後剩下幾秒鐘原住民的參政前、政治參與一直到現在 |
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1216.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1229.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
修憲之後到地方制度法的制定都是有三眼平眼現在要把它拿掉是很困難的因為這是保障各個族群好謝謝鄭委員 |
| IVOD_ID |
158016 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158016 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-06 |
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| 開始時間 |
2024-12-06T18:45:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-06T19:05:47+08:00 |
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