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| 委員名稱 |
麥玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:21:39 - 17:42:50 |
| 影片長度 |
1271 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-06T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第2會期第1次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為考試院第十三屆院長、副院長及考試委員任期於113年8月31日屆滿，茲依據憲法增修條文第6條第2項規定，提名周弘憲為考試院第十四屆院長，許舒翔為考試院第十四屆副院長，邱文彥、鄧家基、王秀紅、呂秋慧、柯麗鈴、黃東益、伊萬．納威Iwan Nawi 7位為考試院第十四屆考試委員，咨請同意案。） |
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謝謝副院長有請我們的納威委員請被提名人伊萬納威委員好 |
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委員好,因為你是十三屆的委員也是要稱呼你委員我也知道說你是代表原住民所以我們也是很支持原住民所以跟高津也是一直為我們原住民爭取一些福利所以今天就是有幾點想要請教你在原住民特考 |
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的目的是促進研究民族群人才進入公務體系並提升研究民的社會與公共事務參與然而依我所知今年研究民的特考 |
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開缺數量減少指等也降低了分發的機構選擇也比較集中未達成我們設立的特考的機制初衷 |
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跟委員報告剛剛所提的問題主要是現在其實原住民現在的選擇因為一方面因為我們也面臨比較客觀的一些比如說少子女化那當然原住民現在選擇的比較多元年輕人現在選擇的工作也比較多元 |
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選擇比較多元所以去考試的人是比較少是這樣子嗎還是說我們是派錢就有領薪水一百多萬就不用去考還有一個原因應該是現在很多原住民我們現在退僱大概60%已經在都市裡面 |
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所以他有時候來考這個員特我們是接到是因為我們認為啦因為看到很多我也是很多的原住民就是在 |
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在讀碩士的朋友因為我們敬禮大學80%的都是原住民的朋友他們都覺得是特考的制度還有目前偏離初中所以考試院採用哪一些具體的措施跟改善讓更多我們的原住民的朋友來去考試這個才是我們的重點 |
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對 但是考試院因原住民組的公務人員在在這體系中發展並貢獻的專業所以實際上公平與能就是這個效能要回應到這次制度還有設立的初衷希望這樣子的話會更多的我們的原住民願意去考這樣子的特考 |
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對 還有就是說因為你現在是在希望就是續聘嘛所以在你的任內對研究的特考的貢獻如何對於研究名錄取名額和分發的單位你有什麼看法 |
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跟委員報告現在我們原名特考的錄取人數其實這三年有成長 |
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在那個錄取率也提高了那剛剛提到一個分發單位的部分因為我們現在原民特考但是依據工作權保障法所以他的分發地區都是原鄉就是原住民族地區跟就是說辦理原住民事務就是他是被限縮就是說 |
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工作限縮、特考限縮、發揮的分發 |
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在工作權保障法方面我們可以怎麼處理去保障各機關對原住民公務人員的禁用 |
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所以我們希望就是要優化分發到各個單位不要集中在一個機構對大家也是要讓大家在不同的地方來去發揮這樣才是對我們的特考人員才是公平也讓他有就很大的發揮的空間所以你也擔任過我們的原住民的 |
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主委、副主委嘛考試院就是因協調人事總署及研明會這樣提出長期的改善還有就是這樣的計畫剛才有次問過你希望你就是要關於這樣子的平台要多琢磨、多用心 |
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好所以希望還有我們再來就想要請教你關於我們新住民我們臺灣民眾黨三個會期有推一個新住民基本法在7月16號就是三讀通過在8月12日呢總統也公告內政部也依新住民基本法第4條在籌備 |
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三級機關新住民發展署所以你知道有這個法嗎我知道我有掌握謝謝委員好所以爭取這個法我們新住民基本法第9條規定政府應與國家考試設立新住民事務相關 |
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類科以應應新住民公屋之需求還有第18條政府應鼓勵新住民．入公共參與推進多元文化所以以上的籌備就是新住民發展署現在我們是簡稱新發署因為這個名稱也是我們內政部他們自己說的所以幾章就是 |
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服務全國的新住民但是面對新住民多元的語言與文化的背景新發署在國家考試與行政用人需求上如何應用還有關於全國新住民的權益所以你可以詳細說明關於這個考試的規定嗎 |
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首先恭喜委員我特別可以感受委員因為過去原名也有同樣的一些經歷今天走到這一步是非常好的一個進展至於有關新住民行政類科這件事只要未來新發署成立之後 |
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因為他會是用人機關只要提出新住民行政類科我們考試院就可以辦理相關的考試這個是沒有問題的當然啦 考試院沒有問題但是問題說這樣子的類科關於這個類科的考試還有應用 |
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還有怎麼樣去執行因為你是我們北庭名人你應該對這一塊更熟悉所以想要請教你未來是要有這樣你有沒有什麼準備或者你針對這一塊有什麼想法這樣才是顯示你的專業是不是 |
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這個新住民行政類科他會當然一般我們還是有一個行政法或者是一些他的專業的法制那我相信因為你是代表我們的原住民你有當過一屆了你應該知道說我們的考試院怎麼樣去編怎麼樣去類科怎麼樣去考 |
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我希望就是我們這個發展署成立後就是有相關這樣子的規定還有制度應該你更清楚才對那是我聽起來好像你都打太極拳了 |
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所以新住民國家考試可能也是面臨就是語言的障礙還有文化的差異考試院也是針對新住民進入公務或者公職人員的挑戰所以一定要設計一些就是知識的措施 |
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語言、輔導、相關教育有哪些不一樣才是真正的配套所以不是說我們講的你們考試院的功能考試院功能不用你講我們都知道是說你未來的發展你要怎麼去用 |
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這才是我們想知道的但是我看了你都沒有講得出來所以說如何將公務員提供這個多元的發展的機會才能避免說語言還有一些文化的隔閡這個部分我希望如果你當選後這個你一定要考量進來因為我們 |
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人多就是需要這樣子的人去服務所以需要這樣的人去服務當然是語言還有一些文化不同一定會有一些差異所以就是提醒你也是讓你知道有這樣子的一個方式所以 |
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因為台灣我們新住民在台灣是希望有機會當不同領域的服務人員不管是公務人員還是公職人員還有各領域希望也要提升這樣子的服務的品質還有促進社會的融合所以新住民發展署因應考試院公務人員考試要設置一些 |
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增加列科的處理的重點要處理的要點這個部分我希望你真正的是用原住民當過委員的高度來去做這件事情來回我這個問題因為在高考還有涉及新住民的列科所以推動相關的機關新住民事務相關的列科經用人員也保障新住民的權利 |
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你獲得上任後你要如何去做也如何積極來去做這件事情因為我已經給你的一個方向還有目標因為我覺得好像是我還比你還會當那個考試員所以問你的都是白問的所以你講完這個你有什麼想法嗎 |
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委員剛剛特別提到新增類科的處理要點事實上就是未來的新發屬的人力要透過國家考試來禁用先有一個考試所以將來如果我有機會我一定會全力幫忙相關的一些預備的工作然後讓這個考試能夠順利讓我們禁用 |
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主席主席主席主席主席主席 |
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阿要需要再來分有權有權就說一律平等就是這個目的啦所以我們就要分的話就是要有不一樣的就是要分不一樣的所以外界對於考試院的行政院在人事行政權上的 |
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執掌都重疊了效率不佳也有成餘力所以在2020年8月6日當時權敘部部長也是現在的本屆考試院的院長被提名人周弘憲先生有提到現在社會各界與各黨都主張廢除考 |
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考監兩院多數認為考試院職權併入行政院而監察院職權併入立法院比較妥當證實了非考兩院的聲音其來有之你覺得呢 |
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呃 我不認為呃 現在需即化因為好 如果你不認為的話就是有專業學者有提到嘛齁考試院只管經用齁 不管進場功能已分到其他各院了所以考試院已需即化了所以請教我們委員你認為考試院的角色是如何 |
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除了剛剛我們講考試以外就是有關公務人員的文官制度的一個這個重要的一個 |
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主席 |
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會有這個當當來去做像你說這樣子的應用嗎如果你覺得說有你是否支持憲法修正就是沒有就是要廢除考試院你沒有你沒有支持嗎所以你要請我們的就是請知我們的那個就是那個什麼 |
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前序部就是支持這樣子的論點我們希望我們的委員在本黨的問卷中回應你的回應就是尊重國會以民意的決定 |
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但我問的是你真正的意向啦不要是說回應就是別人說的不是你說的這樣只是你當這樣子的職務你怎麼樣負這個責任我們怎麼樣把這個票投給你呢 |
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跟委員報告現在目前是五權憲法五權分立嘛就在這個架構假如考試院還在我們就是還有這個職權那假如我們討論到最後或者是修憲以後但是我們的就是提名人我們的院長他都敢大膽這樣去講了你自己的話是被提名你都沒有任何你的意向嗎也沒有你任何的想法嗎 |
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所以考試院是實際已經續劇化了公務人員的考機法由行政院掌管公務人員懲戒法歸屬監察院與司法院憲法應修正 |
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就是廢除考試院．將人事任用考選權統一．單一的機關提升效力．也是避免職權重疊．節約資源．實際就是簡化．讓我們政府做事更有效力是 |
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是嘛 你也認同嘛認同就是把各兩院廢掉所以文官體系是國家應用的根本所以我們國家已經超過365萬我們的公務人員保障公務人員的權益還有保障我們國家穩定的防容近期就是勞動部長的勞 |
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發展署的北分署發生一起公務人員就是親身的 |
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所以勞動部發展署我們的北分署這邊還有我們勞動部長說調查報告將霸凌惡行美化成為利益良善這樣的話引發我們全國的公務機構霸凌事件 |
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真的是處理不當啦也因為這樣子就激怒了我們整個臺灣的社會連國外的人都看不下去所以在我們的2021年由考試院委員質詢就是 |
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前序部對於職場霸凌有無因應措施或者管理機制而在2023年也有考試院委員要求保訓會強化我們的職場霸凌的預防措施但是請問我們這邊的後續發展如何我們沒有看到任何作為了 |
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跟國務院報告因為這段時間我們從院長提名人開始我們就有提到就是說就是把這一個相關的規定能夠當時隊友就是那個全系部保訓會強化職場霸凌的一反但是考試院就是 |
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責無旁貸了一條寶貴的生命你也是當過媽媽了每天等不到孩子回來那種心情所以我們不能是說你推給我我推給你我們再討論再討論再討論下去就沒力沒命了 |
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所以上一屆考試院全體也是積極認識早早就是強化說職場大臨要預防的落實但是到現在還是沒有落實的所以我們希望說我們這個也要有一個相關的就是相行的法規可規範也可以罰則這樣子的話有懲有罰這樣子的一個 |
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委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
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所以希望你當選後﹐要真的有這個機會﹐要好好珍惜﹐重視人生的﹐我們中國人的生命﹐還有我們新助理﹐未來的考試院列科﹐你如何去做﹐才真正的達到我們想要的目標 |
| IVOD_ID |
158012 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158012 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-06 |
| 影片種類 |
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| 開始時間 |
2024-12-06T17:21:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-06T17:42:50+08:00 |
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