| IVOD_ID |
15801 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15801 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-11T08:31:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-11T13:41:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
05:09:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/16eb79f0bb3b77dbf7460912bad191e9ca3bf586b49d470b3be8d109af184be4f2e14d0e1915375c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查：
（一）行政院函請審議「遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員邱鎮軍等18人擬具「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「遠洋漁業條例增訂第十四條之一及第三十八條之一條文草案」案。
（第二案及第三案如經復議，則不予審查。）
二、審查：
（一）行政院函請審議「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員黃捷等22人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。
（六）本院委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。
（七）本院委員呂玉玲等17人擬具「野生動物保育法第十九條、第二十一條及第二十一條之一條文修正草案」案。
（八）本院委員張雅琳等18人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。
（第八案如經復議，則不予審查。）
【4月10日及11日二天一次會】） |
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完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:31:04 - 13:41:00 |
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麥克風測試 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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三十六條之一及第四十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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1343.729 |
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1345.367 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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1481.323 |
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1482.381 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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1755.196 |
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1756.254 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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1864.36 |
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1864.58 |
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條文修正草案案。 |
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1870.694 |
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1873.356 |
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條之一及第三十八條之一條文草案案。」 |
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1897.771 |
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1923.868 |
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二．審查．一．行政院函請審議《野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案》案。二．本院委員鄭天才等21人擬具《野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案》案。三．本院委員賴瑞榮等16人擬具《野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案》案。四．本院委員黃婕等22人擬具《野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案》案。 |
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1924.508 |
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1952.278 |
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五（本院委員吳麗華等16人擬具《野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案》案。六（本院委員郭玉琴等16人擬具《野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案》案。七（本院委員李月琳等17人擬具《野生動物保育法第十九條、第21條及第21條之一條文修正草案案。八（本院委員張雅琳等18人擬具《野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案案》案。宣讀完畢。 |
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1957.067 |
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1959.388 |
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條文修正草案條文修正草案條文修正草案條文修正草案 |
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1982.009 |
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2000.424 |
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主席還有各位委員大家好感謝召委安排今天的法案審查本期提出遠洋漁業條例部分條例修正草案主要是鑒於2022年美國國家海洋暨大氣總署發布國際漁業管理改善的報告 |
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台灣首次在非法漁業及混獲海歸的不明譽版當上榜我國遠洋漁業條例需要進一步修法台灣自從2015年遭受歐盟列入打擊非法未報告及不受規範的漁業不合作國家警告名單後政府積極修訂漁業刪法然而過了七個月 |
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歐盟執委會派員來臺訪視,仍然認定臺灣執法鬆散,強度密度皆下降。此外,包括綠色和平組織、英國環境正義基金會都曾針對臺灣非法捕魚、人口販運及強迫漁工勞動等問題發布調查報告。 |
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並且在2020年在美國發表同工及強迫勞動製品清單台灣遠洋漁獲也被列入導致美國買家反彈政府必須加速改善因此本席提出遠洋漁業 |
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條例部分條文修正草案 本席提案方向與行政院版本相同,包括增訂十四條之一及三十九條之一,規定涉及非法,未報告或不受規範漁撈作業之漁貨物或漁產品不得進口。 |
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以及因應國際條約等需求主管機關得公告限制特定國家之全部或部分漁貨或漁產品不得進口並增訂相關法則等。另外配合農委會改制為農業部修正第三條主管機關名稱以及第四十七條增訂修正條文及實施日期。懇請各位委員支持。謝謝大家。謝謝。 |
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條文修正草案案。 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
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條之一及第三十八條之一修正草案,以加強我國國籍漁船以及對出口業者的管理,並展現我國對於打擊非法的漁撈者決心。」 |
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條之一、第三十八條之一做的新增或修訂的部分特別說明在第三十八條之一也就是最近一年內違反了前項規定兩次以上者 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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其他國家、國際漁業組織或其他經濟整合組織通報涉及非法及未報告或不受規範漁撈作業的漁貨物或漁產品之流通,所以我們明定該等貨物不得進口。」 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、二十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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謝謝楊瓊瓔委員接下來我們請黃婕委員做其案說明 |
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謝謝主席各位主席跟各位同仁大家好在這次的野保的修正案裡面因為我認為台灣是一座非常生態資源豐富的島嶼我們需要大家共同來守護但是這個野保法已經11年沒有修正了跟現在的情況確實不合時宜那我希望這個法規可以隨著我們保育的需求越來越高可以滾動式的調整 |
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條文修正草案．一．三．本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具 «遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．一．三．本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具 |
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規範是過於寬鬆的,所以會導致動物在逃逸的時候這個管領人沒有辦法及時通報或是積極地圍捕,而且過去野保法在制定的時候並沒有充分地尊重原住民的傳統文化,然後剝奪了他們在非營利自用的狩獵權。 |
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所以希望在這一次的修正當中來把這些權利都放進去而且過去在查獲這些保育類野生動物的產製品的時候對於犯案的工作物以及相關的物品的所有權的歸屬並沒有明確的認定所以會導致檢調跟法院在偵審的時候舉證很困難 |
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條文修正草案 案 為了解決以上種種的問題這一次提了四個修正的內容第一個我們必須全面的禁用售假這個我相信是大家對於野生動物保育的共識再來第二個人為的管理的 |
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保育類野生動物如果有發生溢濕的狀況管理人的通報違補相關的規定跟法則必須要放進去再來第三個必須要開放原住民族非營利自用的狩獵活動原本是由事前的申請修正為事後報備即可 |
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再來未來如果有查獲保育類野生動物跟產製品的時候得以不問所有人就來沒收犯罪的工具物以及相關的物品以上是我的提案說明希望大家可以共同支持一起來進一步保育野生動物謝謝謝謝黃婕委員接下來我們請五麗華委員做提案說明 |
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條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
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八零三號解釋,因此在第二十一條之一增列了非營利自用的要件,納入原住民族獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物的除罪化範圍,並且改採被查制,原住民獵捕野生動物以行政處罰取代刑罰。同時呢,院版的草案 |
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也將全面禁用獸匣作為本次修法的重點。不過我們在第十九條的立法說明中有看到本法所稱獸匣是依據動物保護法所定義的列具而不包含原住民的傳統列具基於大法官的解釋對原住民狩獵權的維護 |
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及民間社會提倡的人道考量對於全面禁用售甲本席予以尊重,但是仍需考量法令落實的操作過程可能會有的疏漏,進而在本席所提出的版本予以修正,重點 |
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參見修正動議第十九條及第二十一條之一（本席第十九條修正文字除了一到六款的列補方法外新增第七款使用原住民族傳統列據以及第八款使用授甲將原住民族的列據及授甲分別處理並在二十一條之一的修正文字中將第七款的原住民族列據增列為處罪化範圍 |
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條文修正草案．第十六條之一、第三十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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因此本席於第21條之一增列第三項希望原住民族人使用壽甲得有兩年的免罰寬限輔導期使主管機關檢警以及原住民族人得有充裕的列具汰換以及改善時間以完備本次修法尊重原住民族傳統狩獵文化的主要精神懇請立院同仁以及行政部門予以支持謝謝 |
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謝謝吳麗華委員接下來我們請呂玉玲委員做提案說明 |
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謝謝主席。針對本席的提案是野保法的第十九條跟第二十一條跟二十一條之一的條文修正草案。本席與其他委員共十七人以強化野生動物保育為原則認為應該杜絕殘忍的獵具來使用並應該特殊緊急的情況之下及原住民狩獵傳統的文化中取得平衡點所以在第十九條的部分 |
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條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 |
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條的國際趨勢,另外在第二十一條跟二十一條之一若是野生動物有危害農、魚、牧、業的發展跟民眾的生命以及考量原住民的傳統狩獵文化,可以例外的來使用第十九條的第一項、第三項跟第五項較具有人道精神的獵捕規定以促進尊重動物生命的觀念。 |
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條文修正草案案案案。 |
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三條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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他倘若是危險度較高的野生動物溢失的時候恐怕會危及民眾生命財產因此我的提案內容便是針對第31條中的野生動物要區分類別如果是危險程度較高的野生動物應該備託相關的資料例如針對野生動物的標示方式和溢失之後的維補計畫再報請主管機關備查之 |
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審查之。」此外,我們的提案也針對院版目前的第37條的積極微補提出一個更明確的定義以及指引,透過邀集專業人士的協助微補,才可以在微補過程之中,如果有可能造成的民眾損傷或是財產損失來降到最低,也可以避免當初六福村廢廢事件中因為當初的計劃不周而造成的後續爭議。以上的提案說明,懇請各位委員支持。謝謝。 |
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一、三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之 |
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主席、各位委員那今天在立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第7次全體會議那大便審查有關於行政院所提的遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條條文修正案及審查野生動物保育法部分條文修正案那還有剛才各位委員所提的各版本那以下 |
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本部就相關的這些立法說明做一個概要的一個說明那首先針對漁業遠洋漁業條例的修正的部分那請各位看簡報 |
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那整個遠洋漁業的修正那最主要大家都知道就是國際針對這些打擊IAU是大家國際上共同合作的部分那為了確保整個漁業資源的永續那我們國家過去在相關的遠洋漁業條例裡面第25條已經有針對 |
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條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
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那整個修正條文大概有三個部分,第一個部分是十四條,第二個部分是三十六條之一,還有一個部分就是施行日期。那第十四條之一最主要是針對IU的漁獲的部分,是不得進口的部分。那不得進口的漁獲或者相關的漁產資訊的話,我們由主管機關,就是由農業部來主動公告。 |
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那第三十六條是規範他違反相關的條例的一個處罰那第一次違反的時候是處六百萬到三千萬的的一個罰環那如果重複違規的話是處九百到四千五百萬的部分那我們部裡面也分析了這樣子的一個 |
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條文是不是對我們國內業者的影響那第一個部分我要跟各位委員說明就是我們捕到的漁民不會受到此條文的影響那因為最主要是這個條文是主要規範的對象是進口業者而且我們遠洋漁船所捕獲的漁獲物它不屬於進口的漁獲所以說對於我們的漁民是不會觸法那第二個部分就是過往在一些 |
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條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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同時更可以保障我們漁民正當的漁貨的一個銷售的一個管道跟權益。那至於說整個的IOU的漁貨到底是哪一種是屬於IOU的漁貨那我們會針對相關的一個載運跟捕撈的資訊然後進口業者在購買漁貨的時候一定要去了解他的漁貨的合法性並需要參考公告資訊那最重要就是所謂的公告資訊那 |
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我們在跟剛才委員所提到的各項版本裡面有一個重點就是剛才有委員提到的就是在相關的修正條例裡面就是有關於罰還的部分是希望能夠做一些重複重複重複違規的時候是希望有900萬降低到 |
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八百萬的部分,那我們在這邊我們是建議能夠維持我們行政院版本,因為整個的一個再次的處罰的部分我們是跟出口的這個滑彎是一致性的,不會造成進口跟出口有不一樣的差別待遇。第二個部分是有關於相關的這些 |
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重複的部分剛才也提到了那最後我要跟各位委員報告就是要確保IUE的漁貨不會進口然後避免市場不公平然後保障漁民的權益是我們農業部一直在長期致力在在推動的那我們希望說透過這樣的一個修法能夠把進口IUE的進口跟出口能夠讓這些IUE打擊的漁貨能夠不到進到台灣來然後我們也不會 |
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條文修正草案條文修正草案的部分 |
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條文修正草案案 案件及其他條文修正草案 案件及其他條文修正草案 |
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條文修正草案案 條例第十四條之一及第四十六條條文修正草案 條例第十四條之一及第四十六條條文修正草案 條例第十四條之一及第四十六條條文修正草案 條例第十四條 |
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全面禁用授甲、保障原住民狩獵的權利及除罪化、強化野生動物飼主的責任、當我們稽查時擴大沒收犯罪物品的範圍。 |
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三條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第 |
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那未來修法通過了以後那不論是預防農損或是原住民狩獵這一不得使用授甲那剛才有提到的就是有部分的原住民是用山豬釣的部分那我們在19條的部分也有授權主管機關可以適時的公告相關的這些禁止使用這些列據那目前我們 |
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條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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那修正動點是第二個部分是保障原住民狩獵權益及除罪化的部分那剛才也提到了就是目前的原住民的野保法是針對原住民的傳統文化寄宜跟可獵捕的野生動物那為了符合相關的原基法第十九條第三項的規定我們增加了非營利自用也可以獵捕野生動物 |
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三條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條 |
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那修正重點第三個部分是有關於保育類野生動物溢濕的違補的費用他是由事主來負擔及提高未通報的一個罰則那現行的約法法裡面當野生動物溢濕的時候那事主未通報是有罰則的是一到五萬但是所有的違補費用都是由政府來買單那我們這次的修法就是可以所有溢濕保育類野生動物的時候 |
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條文修正草案案 要及時通報的責任,那如果沒有及時通報的話,我們提高相關的划環到三萬到十五萬,同時違補收容及贊養的費用也規定是由事主來負擔。」 |
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第四個修正重點是針對擴大沒收的一個範圍。那現行的野保法我們針對違法查獲的這些物品或工具如果不是屬於犯罪人所有的時候我們是沒辦法處理的。所以我們先這次的修法是犯罪的物品跟工具不管是不是犯罪人所有我們都可以來沒收來增加整個的犯罪成本有效的遏止相關的一個違法的一個作為。 |
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那我們也比較了委員所提的這些版本那剛才委員也提到了就是主張不可全面禁用獸甲的部分那最主要就是因為整個動保法其實它在一百年就已經公告了禁止使用而且這個獸甲本身是具有強力的彈簧的這些鋸子狀的結構它對於動物本身會造成極嚴重的一個傷害 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之 |
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那另外也有委員提到就是全面禁用金屬套索就是部分就是俗稱的山豬釣的部分那剛才也說了就是因為現在原住民的傳統狩獵或者是在接近山區的這些農民他為了防治這些山豬等野生動物所造成的農業的損失那勢必還是必須用適當的這些金屬的一個套索 |
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但是我也跟各位委員說明了就是我們現在已經有有一些改良式的這些列據那這些列據我們也正在積極輔導我們的原住民部落的原住民以及我們山區的這些農民能夠來替換這樣的一個一個列據那在適當的時間以後因為第十九條有有授權主管機關和公道禁止列據的方式所以我們在一 |
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就是一段過渡的這些輔導區去輔導他改用適當的一個改良式列具以後我們就可以去禁止相關的這些金屬套索所以他是有一段的一個緩衝期能夠來處理 |
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三條之一、第三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條條文修正草案案件及第十七條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案 |
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那另外委員有提到就是說像地方政府辦理保育類野生動物時增加審查的一個制度那在這邊也跟委員說明就是我們這一次條文的最主要目的就是本來是一般的野生動物但是野生動物我們會定期的檢討會有一部分可能會變成一個保育類動物那一般的野生動物已經在飼養牠的飼養都有合法的一個場所的一個查核 |
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當它變成一個保育類動物的時候我們是採用備查的部分那委員所擔心的這些是不是有它的環境或是它飼養的這個相關的規範其實這個規範在其他的條文第34條已經有明定了就是飼養或繁殖保育類的野生動物的時候應該有適當的場所及設備如果說它升級成為野生動物就是保育類動物的時候那就會回到34條 |
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條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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3621.823 |
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那另外委員也提到就是有關於保育類首次違反不罰的部分那這邊其實大法官的8034解釋的部分是應該有一些不同強度的一些管理那原住民的狩獵生物的規範其實已經實施了12年那原住民已經透過各種的媒體 |
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的資訊,那我們農業部,其實我們也針對原住民部列,我們其實有非常多的輔導的機制,我們也會擴大這樣的一個宣傳,所以其實已經沒有手勢違反不法的一個必要性,那我們還會積極的強調會去跟原住民相關的這些部落去做一個宣導,然後也敬請委員支持行政院的一個版本。 |
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那為了符合世界保育的潮流然後強化野生動物的一個保護機制提升原住民傳統文化的尊重以及野生動物保護法的完善所以還請大院各位委員不吝支持與指正以上報告 |
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好謝謝陳部長的報告那有關於原住民族委員會的報告請委員自行參閱並刊登公報那我們討論事項我們有兩案我們就合併詢答但是分開處理委員質詢前原力做以下幾點的宣告每位委員發言時間本會委員五分鐘必要時得延長一分鐘非本會委員四分鐘上午十點三十分截止發言登記首先我們請登記第一位林黛樺委員發言 |
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條文修正草案案。 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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第三個會有具體的建議。」好,在2月27號總諮詢之後請農業部在3個月內嚴厲建立犬貓公益血庫規劃方案含逐年編列的預算來建立一套完善的動物捐血政策跟運作機制目前全台僅有國立屏東科技大學所提供的犬貓捐輸血液服務是唯一 |
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條文修正草案案的全體管理機制的機構也是唯一合法提供捐輸血液的這樣的一個機構而它的產量就是整個現在市場的捐輸血液的5%而這5%是唯一合法的那本席在這個總質詢當中提到希望這樣的一個捐血的一個規劃呢有三個 |
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特赦強調文明、落實道德以及鼓勵公益,強調文明是在犬貓公益學庫的機制定定公益學庫捐血的規範建構可行的服務生態。第二階段是學研合作的研發機制由屏東科技大學為起點, |
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竹年建立北中南示範雪庫平臺法人的軟體平臺技術支援。」這個第一個階段跟第二階段是可以合一的那為什麼我特別指定屏東科技大學其實農委會早就有做這要感謝在105年 |
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這個農委會的主委是林聰賢林主委以及當時的防檢局施泰華施副局長雖然施副局長現在已經不在人世間但是我一定要感謝他也因為他大力支持這樣動物的捐血機制給屏東科技大學三年的計畫 |
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之後平克大他自己獨立站起來現在能夠唯一可以跟國外尤其他是以整個美國的機制來放到我們國內而且他還因為我們國人都是喜歡養小犬比較小型規模的動寵物所以我們也符合國內的一個機制去建立了這建立8年的一個雪庫好那這個概念呢 |
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但是呢我非常的失望你們確實在一個月後啊召開了這個建設國內寵物公益選庫的研商會議你們什麼做呢來看左邊你們的會議結論決議一二三重點就在那個三各校建制犬貓選庫模式推行方式及所需經費本據差異性以逐步完善各校示範選庫再透過經驗交流及經驗這個資源分享這句話的意思啊 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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就補助冰箱,所以對於目前現況並無其他的配套,而且或是積極建設屬於政府自己本身的犬貓捐輸機制。而上次的這個會議討論的這個決議並不是本期在總執行當中所建立的所建議這個設立的犬貓血庫管理總部 |
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與捐輸血液的推廣平台,而你們只是能完善學校的示範硬體,這樣根本無法建立一個完善的犬貓工藝血庫的計畫,也根本無法有效的向民眾推廣正確的犬貓捐輸血液的機制。」重點是什麼?犬貓不會自己來捐血啊!所以你這個總部還富有推廣,跟事主推廣啊! |
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那什麼叫做總部?什麼叫做平台?總部這邊我引用這個你們還委託這個平和大所做的報告我就用這個報告你們補助的報告什麼叫做總部你知道你們現在的第一步從這個環境的建構建立標準程序符合規範合適場地與軟硬體不是所有的大學學員都可以啊 |
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我都知道其中有一個大學是跟非法的養殖場在合作的你們讓他就地合法 |
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好再來你這個總部要做什麼你們現在要做工作分組啊財學檢驗管理供應快速企劃推廣資訊集集合包括重點營運服務你的血液血庫資訊的平台現在你有總部有平台你這當中就要建立你的數據的資料就要建立起來了然後呢這個建立犬貓血品的數位資料庫串聯各捐血中心合作醫院等 |
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在招募跟推廣也是你的營運服務當中統籌捐血犬貓的招募活動並進行教育推廣跟企業合作,原則來講就正式的通過ISO跟TAF的認證成立財團法人動物血液基金會。好,什麼叫做平台?這個也是你們補助的一個報告。 |
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條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案條例部分條文 |
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以及現在你們要建置的各受益相關大學的這個醫院包括所有的捐血保存供應使用這個是捐血的部分要到這邊來捐然後呢受血的部分呢各全國各地我要到哪裡啊來來輸血啊 |
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4092.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
4104.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
全國各地經教育訓練合格的合作動物醫院。這要跟誰合作?跟我們全國獸醫師公會聯合會跟各縣市的獸醫師公會也就是說這個平台建立開始之後我現在就教導民眾跟合格的獸醫師醫院你們現在要捐輸血餘力都到這個平台來總部跟平台你才能量幣缺足劣幣啊 |
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那我不知道而且呢這樣也給重點喔在這個合作推廣中也給予四組捐血的捐輸血液的正確管道勿再進行其他的不正當的來源訊息部長你怎麼看非常謝謝委員齁針對這個血庫的一個 |
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所謂的總部跟平臺的這個系統那基本上我非常認同這樣的一個系統可是在考慮到捐血的部分我們有兩個重點要考慮第一個重點就是這些公學犬貓的福利我們要保障然後第二個就是血品也要保障所以說像屏東大學它本身它現在已經有這樣的一個機制那接下來就是這個總部跟這個平臺之間的串接那其實我們在獸醫師公會在開會的時候其實有討論到非常多的這些細節 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
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條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
4230.431 |
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部長早部長我想進入我們今天的這個條文的詢答之前我還是想要先請教幾個時事題跟我們地方有比較相關的部長大概您很清楚最近因為這個氣候異常這幾年其實對於農民來講都是非常的辛苦我大概整理了一下全台灣大概從二月份開始從恆春南投嘉義 |
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| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
條文修正草案案件及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第四十七條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案 案件,包括龍眼、納瑪夏、青梅、水蜜桃等。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
這個全球的環境劇烈變遷部長我要請教您就是那全台灣中南部其他各區的荔枝不開花都能夠得到了這個災損的補助高雄這一次的災損補助是不是也能夠達標那如果達標的話你們能不能承諾在最短的時間內將災損的經費來合撥呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
我跟委員說明就是高雄的部分我可能要呈現澄清一下因為不同地區本身在開發時間的那個溫度因為荔枝本身需要一些涼溫所以高雄它比較特殊一點所以它有比較慢而不是說公所或是我們同仁在慢我知道我知道那我們昨天去看了而且已經達到相關的一個災損的一個標準了所以我們會盡快的就在今天或明天就會去公告 |
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三條之一、第三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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三）113年投保件數只有六件,高雄的荔枝種植面積有三千多公頃,不然這幾年你們可能沒什麼在推測作物保險,有沒有可能趁著這樣子讓更多的農民其實了解這氣候劇烈變遷的時候,其實投保作物保險的重要性? |
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三條之一、第三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
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我今天也不要求你我覺得你們應該要開始啟動這樣的作物保險的宣導的工作不管你是我們現有的作物保險我覺得應該要開始要讓農民有更清楚的知道政府是在推動這一塊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、二十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
4460.147 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
前一陣子這個寶林茶室的這個中毒案對於客家的米製品其實受傷慘重大家都知道要來美濃吃板條現在美濃的板條街是完全沒有人我是不是能夠要求農委會、農糧署能夠來對於台灣的米製品尤其是我們客家地區的這些板條等等的米製品 |
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| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
條文修正草案案 推廣計劃,尤其是國產的米品。甚至現在的所謂的米孝峻酸這個英文名字其實已經把它改名了,完全按照它的原文的發音。 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
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條文修正草案案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文 |
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好那接下來要討論到我們今天的這個法條齁部長您剛剛花了很多時間在解釋所謂的改良式列具山豬釣啦獸甲齁不過你剛剛有一點口誤你說你們現在在推改良式獸甲應該不叫改良式獸甲是改良式列具嘛齁 |
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三條之一、第三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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推廣的、宣傳的力道、成效什麼樣?我跟委員說明,就是改良室的列具本身,就是如果知道的人他們其實蠻高興使用的。那我們到目前為止已經在原住民地區已經換發了大概3千4百,大概3千7百多了,因為今年度一直累積。 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文 |
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4630.074 |
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其實在動保法裡面我們已經完全禁止獸甲甚至連它的製造販賣都是被禁止的所以照理講在山裡面他應該也是買不到所謂的原始的這種獸甲了嘛因為我們已經禁止他製造販售所以使用獸甲基本上已經是不合法的 |
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三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條 |
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我覺得我們應該盡更多的一點心力。會的,我想我們一定會盡全力針對遠洋漁業部落本身的一個宣導。好,謝謝。好,謝謝邱委員。那下一位請張祺凱委員質詢。 |
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來,請部長。委員長,保庭務,早安。 |
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三月四號本席執行完之後看起來這個進口彈的這個銷毀有加速對不對我看最新資料已經銷毀了三千三千多萬顆現在還有兩萬欸兩千四百四十三到昨天為止齁大概已經銷毀了四千四百多剩下大概三億一千對好盡快齁這是我們會盡快越快人民納稅錢就是越多是我瞭解好不好瞭解不過我請教一下我看這個手機怪怪齁你給我的資料 |
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三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
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所以就是農業部這邊因為去年沒有完成,本來是說去年底對不對?所以已經都花了4330萬是不是這樣?不是這樣子,這個就是說我們把雞蛋就是當作堆肥,這個需要一些成本,這是3000多萬,另外從倉庫的地點運到堆肥廠, |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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4833.653 |
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這每一批的進口放到倉庫然後倉庫去調度到洗煙場的所有的整年度的倉主費用不是報廢雞蛋的倉主費用這沒有辦法拆開的我看你昨天記者會講的是說這是今年的費用我們把它理清楚現在你剛剛講的是說是進來以後從去年開始去年開始進來以後的雞蛋因為他不同批進來嘛一億五千多萬個進來 |
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都會放在倉庫的地點然後再調度到溪泉場那整年度下來的倉儲費用﹖所以是在九年之外到目前為止還是到九年底?到九年底﹖到九年底﹖到九年底﹖對﹖對﹖對﹖所以現在又繞到一半了? |
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| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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從去年的二月份一直到去年年底用了八千四百萬的倉儲費用,對不對?對,大概是八千四百萬。後來有流標,所以給你這個速度 |
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4899.584 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
條文修正草案案案件及第十六條條文修正草案案件及第十六條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十 |
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4934.524 |
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條文修正草案案案件及報廢的因為在同一個倉儲系統裡面沒有辦法去拆開來所以沒有辦法說今年度的倉儲費用就是浪費的因為他要保存一些過程的部分你本身你幾個月內就是要完成銷毀嘛對不對對那你劉彪你今年這個當然是多出來的啊對這個是多出來的我要肯定你最近有加速可是你現在不能夠去辯解說你因為你延誤了多發了這個費用好不好 |
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4939.287 |
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三條之一及第四十六條條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一 |
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二）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具第十四條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之 |
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4995.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
4996.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
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5026.056 |
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5032.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
農業部補助了四千一百萬的倉儲費用,對不對?你另外說是中央市場會,所以沒勝利,中央市場會在看他的醫生。中央市場會我看這個預算書,一百十二年 |
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5061.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
條文修正草案．事由．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一及第八十九條之一 |
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5065.294 |
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5085.969 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
這五點六億的這個蛋的這個產蛋的教訓我們到底學到什麼本席去算了一下從進口進來的時候巴西蛋一顆平均大概八點八塊錢你看買蛋後來壞掉了過期了沒有用了人民損失納稅錢就四億三千五百四十八萬了另外加上我們剛剛一直在談的這個 |
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5088.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
5112.304 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十四條之一、第三十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
主委也下台了我現在不是要追你責任我說你至少做兩件事情第一個速度加快把這個錢省更多好不好這是一個然後第一個要好好想一想這個裡面到底得到怎麼一個教訓例如說你琴瑟跟那個基瑟的這個整個改良我去看你們這個補助標準最多大概一千萬嘛你當初如果不是用進口雞蛋多去改良一下多去改善我們這個琴瑟琴瑟的這個補助有好幾百家可以得到你的幫助欸 |
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5140.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
5166.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
條文修正草案案 令我們的蛋的生產就更穩定,對不對?對,我們當初進口雞蛋跟琴瑟的改良是同步化,所以我們國內的雞蛋的復養率也非常快。抱歉,我最後問一個東西,我上次質詢的時候我特別強調,要讓所有民眾可以安心,所以這個過程,銷毀的過程要公開透明,對不對?有,絕對有第三方,包括縣市政府,還有相關的,我們自己的政風也有參加。 |
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三條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
5197.074 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
5197.934 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
條文修正草案案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
5220.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
條文修正草案案．一、二、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之 |
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5266.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
我跟委員說明就是行政院針對整個這次地震花蓮的話我們在跨部會第一時間就去處理那各部會本身針對各部會所看到的這些災損的部分那以我們農業部來講針對漁業的部分就是我們的定制網 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
5267.293 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
5293.965 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
那有一些農田部分的農田的部分還有畜牧的部分所以因為這是個災情慘重我希望我們農業部可以成立專案重寬的來給他們補助那尤其是像是水路或者是水土保持這個公共設施你們都會去做但是這個情社部分你們也應該重寬的給他們協助來重建我們一定會重寬我舉個例子像漁業設施本身的天然災救助 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
5294.765 |
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5304.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
他大概只有30萬,我們現在已經有把他提高,然後也要報行政院做專案的方式處理。那針對於如果沒有去投保這個農業保險的,他可以申請嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
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5333.358 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
這個跟農業保險沒有關係這個只要是我們認定它是天然災害那第一陣就是天然災害好我們應該從寬來幫忙救災重建這條路很漫長所以要我們政府機關一起來協助來做包括在我們農業部底下有一個農金署我們對於災害的地區的這些災戶我們在這個有貸款的部分我們是可以有展延的這個申請補助計畫對不對有事項對 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
5336.962 |
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5341.357 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
對,那尤其是這次的情況之下我們是不是可以做到一個展言免席的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
5342.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
5346.352 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
5371.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
5372.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
5397.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
5422.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
謝謝那接下來本席就要請問一下我們今天的動保法的法條的修正草案動保法今天在我們經濟委員會已經排審了請問我們今天給保法已經排審了那動保法什麼時候會進來在上一屆的會期第7會期的時候你們說會期結束前會送進來那這個會期還沒看到你們行政院送到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
5423.626 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
5425.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第四十七條條文修正草案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
5437.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
5440.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
有爭議什麼條文不能送進來的?你們從者你們討論研究演繹已經這麼久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
5456.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
5457.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查． |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
5479.691 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
5495.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
5497.225 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
5514.283 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
主委部長剛剛的說法是說我們會改良室改良室我們不曉得改良室是什麼樣的情況那因為我們在另外21條的部分裡面說如果有特殊緊急狀況危害公共安全或者民眾的生命的時候我們可以適用19條的第1項到第6項對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
5518.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
5543.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
對是所以我們應該就把設限進去那尤其是第十九條的第一項到第六項我只看到你們回應的是這個126這這個三項是不可以使用的但是主委最讓我們擔心的就是三四五項他這個毒物還有炸藥還有其他特殊的這個獵捕的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
5545.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
5555.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
主委、本部長我想請問就是說為什麼需要炸藥需要毒物這個你們沒有去回應你們還繼續要使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
5557.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
5575.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、二十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
5578.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
5597.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
5606.778 |
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5629.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
這個部分可能我們就是會再跟這個漁業組這邊會議所以我希望你回應這個炸藥跟毒物的部分好不好對漁機漁法有一定的規範用炸魚這種方式本來就是不允許的所以你們現在回應我是漁業嘛那這個野生動物法這個還可以適用嗎我們署長所提到的就是我們保留炸藥跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
5631.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
5652.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
相關的是因為因應緊急的狀況的時候我們必須要去處理那如果說所以因應緊急狀況的話在19條裡面就有了對不對所以你們必須要去回應嘛是好不好我們在立法聰明裡面再做一個說明那謝謝主席給我最後一分鐘我要請問的就是說現在我們講的這個野生動物的這個37條跟50條裡面我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
5658.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
5684.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
三條之一及第四十四條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
5688.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
5717.624 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
要設立由中央主管機關,是第一線,可是我們中央有專業的技術人員啊,所以一貫是從中央到地方,對,我們一起成長,好,那再把編列進去好不好,好,謝謝。好,謝謝呂玉玲委員。接下來我們請楊瓊英委員發言。謝謝主席楊瓊英發言,邀請部長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
5718.582 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
5719.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
5725.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
5752.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
條文修正草案案。今天討論的議案我們就先針對於漁業的部分那所以呢在2022年美國國家海洋暨大氣總署他發布了發布這個國際漁業管理改善的這個報告那台灣在上面有兩件事情上了榜單這個讓我們實在是第一個就是非法漁業 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
5753.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
5764.539 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
5765.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
5786.204 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
所以因此個人認為我們必須要加油所以在遠洋漁業的條例裡頭的一個修正是非常重要換句話說我們也必須要配合著整個國際間共同合作打擊非法而且在沒有報告而且不受規範漁撈作業的部分我們必須要強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
5789.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
5802.412 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
進口管理的這個措施落實遠洋漁業的管理對不對是是吼那所以本先生想聽聽看當您看到這兩項登上了榜首您心裡做過感想 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
5803.556 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
5829.793 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
我想其實打擊IOU是我想我們國家從108年107年開始就非常非常的努力然後之前的這些黃單我們也好不容易解除了但是在相關的維網的部分有時候會誤補到一些像類似海龜的混獲的部分那這個混獲的部分我們現在漁業署也在處理就是說在漁具上面去做一些改良讓這些像 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
5830.453 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
5850.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
條文修正草案案 案件的緩和減少這些裝置,那這些裝置其實在國外的這些通用的這些漁法裡面都有已經有有很好的成功的案例了,所以我們已經有在加強這部分的這些漁法的一個改良,你怎麼加強請你書面資料給本席,因為如果依照剛剛部長你所說的這個說法, |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
5851.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
5869.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
沒有回答本席請問你說這兩項不明日登上了榜單你的心裡作何感想不好受啊對不好受當然但是我們要怎麼樣積極作為那你如果說這個會去混和到海關沒有人不認識他的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
5870.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
5870.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
全世界各國已經有這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
5885.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
5904.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案的方案都非常好我們趕快拿出來好不好趕快拿出來來檢討接下來本席要跟你討論的就今天東寶團體也在群選樓的外面他們非常的關心大家也關心我相信部長你也非常的關心所以在這樣情況之下因為這個因為這個捕獸甲還有金屬的這個套索那我們所謂的山豬釣 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
5912.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
5936.409 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
條文修正草案案 本集也跟我們同仁也都提出修正動議在第十九條裡頭我們提出的是全面的禁止這個金屬的這個部分但是我們看到你的報告當中你似乎是不朝著全面禁止但是還好你剛剛的報告是說循性漸進是不是這樣子你所謂的循性漸進你說了幾項第一個你說你要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
5944.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
5967.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
改良式的方法改良式的列據改良式你說口小一點讓我們的黑熊不會套進去可是我真的很難過的是說我們竟然在我們的這麼重要的寶貝我們竟然最近有這幾年有五次被夾我看到這個數字我真的心痛啊那怎麼辦呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
5990.194 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
我跟委員說明就是我們這次這些獸甲我們禁掉但是在這個列具的部分其他列具像山豬釣這個部分因為現在目前在我們的農民的靠近山區的還有原住民他還是有有必要的一個狩獵的一個工具所以我們採用循序就是改良式的列具其他國家比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
5994.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
6017.692 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
英國、澳洲、丹麥、匈牙利他們都已經禁止會致命的陷阱啊他們都已經禁止了啊對那是售假他們禁止的是售假的部分對啊對那我現在講的剛才委員所提到的像這支照片所看到的都是劣距就是像山豬掉之類的齁那我們已經有一些你看看那個狗狗腳被截斷了你看看貓貓被截斷了甚至連黑熊都受害對明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
6024.724 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
6053.853 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
所以我們剛才有特別提到在第十九條已經有授權我們可以去公告適當的時間可以公告那我們現在正在積極的推動這些改良式的列據以後那相對的能夠逐步的去取代那再一段時間等起來是沒有辦法接受你剛剛在報告當中說你循序漸進因為我們也聽不到你的循序漸進你的流程你的時間點到底是怎麼樣所以我也希望我也拜託你將你們預計要怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
6054.053 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
6054.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
條文修正草案案案項目。 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
6074.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
6083.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
條文修正草案案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
6099.463 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
6099.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
條文修正草案案案案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
6119.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
6132.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
2017年離婚熱死政策實施之後2018年有6000多隻的犬貓他絕育之後就回制到街頭去但是我們看到每一年逐年的增加2022年到2023年你是突破了2萬多隻所以我們整個的TNR我們的捕捉、絕育以及釋放我們到底要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
6144.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
6145.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
條文修正草案案 案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
6172.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
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我跟委員說明,TNVR這個制度本身他必須要根據不同的地區的環境去處理所以我們本身在相關的這些回制的部分我們現在是採用收容所的部分去處理 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分 |
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條文修正草案案 案。 |
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九七號我想請下陳部長來請陳部長委員長部長好我們今天其實特別針對那個遠洋漁業條例還有那個野保法的一個修法的部分提出一個部分那針對遠洋漁業條例當中的時候我們很重要的部分就是希望涉及非法還有未報告或不受規範魚撈作業的漁獲物或漁業產品不得進口 |
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條文修正草案案案件。 |
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三十三條的加工和貿易公司發現其中只有一家有合法的魚翅加工執照。就表示說只有一家它有一個很明確的魚翅的來源。其他12家情況是怎麼樣的?可不可以請部長回答一下?可不可以請署長來回答?可以。 |
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謝謝委員的關心目前對保育類的鯊魚是禁止捕撈這個是部分另外一般的鯊魚其實還是允許捕撈但是禁止割其氣生理解那我現在想問的就是說如果說就是英國這個NGO組織如果他的調查報告是真實的狀態的時候13家裡面只有一家他有一個合法的一個來源那就台灣來講國際形象一定是不好的所以我們這次在修這個遠洋漁業條例的時候 |
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條文修正草案案案件事項。此外,我們也希望說後續能夠把這個可能產生的一些問題把它圍堵起來。對消費者來講的時候,比方說可能有很多人喜歡吃,可是他們也不想吃到非法的一個來源的部分。餐廳他們在做這個食材的過程當中,他們可能也不想要進口到非法的食材。那我們政府如果去確保你進來的食材是能夠是合法的,是符合我們自己修法的規則的。 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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三條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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七十九人 七十九人跟我得到的數字差距很大齁那不管是我這邊得到的是二十九人或者是你講的七十九人我們最後再來釐清一下我這邊得到的數字是二十九人那一千零三十三艘遠洋漁船當中你要去做這樣的一個檢查顯然是不夠的那如果說我們接下來的時候我們修法之後我們希望能夠說漁獲都是合法的狀態我們認為限於檢查員可能要再增加好不好 |
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條文修正草案案案件。 |
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理解 那我們希望能夠真正去落實因為這樣落實過程當中不只是對於漁民來說來很重要對於所有的整個產業鏈當中包括餐廳包括消費者都是很重要的一個保障好不好那我想說我們今天還修了一個部分就是野保法的部分我想請教一下那個部長因為不管是動保法或野保法主管機關都在農業部 對不對 |
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條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一 |
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你所說的就是當發生這樣的穿途的時候主管的到底是要用野保法還是要用動保法?這個要看好他本身的動物類別那一般的所以現在動物類別就是白鼻青是保育類啊別盪犬可能就是一般的那個白鼻青現在已經不是保育類的OK那如果是不到保育類的狀態的時候你要怎麼去做處理? |
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一般我想我們用野保法最主要是,如果說它是一個保育類的動物的話,我們通常會用野保法去處理。OK,冬肺肺肺就算野保法,保障的範圍對不對?冬肺肺肺,之前六不春的生物跑出來,對不對?那它是用野保法還是要用凍保法?應該是野保法。 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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對,他出去的時候他本身的動物是用野保法去做相關的資質。所以我舉這幾個例子最主要就是說因為以現在的一個狀態的時候很多時候野保法跟凍保法它其實是混在一起那對民眾來講其實也是混淆的那主管單位一個是野保法是林業署在管對不對那凍保法是凍保室在管 |
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三條之一及第四條之一及第七條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條 |
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或者是一個動物的保護專線,動保專線,或者是也是一個保護專線。現在本來就有對不對?對,本來就有。OK,那我們對這部分是不是能夠去加強一個宣導?因為在2021年的時候新竹南寮發生了一個那個遊蕩犬追負人,結果後來負人跌倒,死掉,引起國賠的事件。部長知道這個事情嘛對不對?對。那麼我記得我們在2021年之後呢,其實就 |
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條文修正草案．一、三十六條之一及第十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案� |
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因為禁止餵養以後．．因為時間有限我想問一下就是在2021年這一次的會議之後我們有哪些改善我今天講因為在那一次當中我們跟地方政府的一個承辦人員問鑑調查當中大家都認為很重要的一個部分就是要增加行政資源請問三年過來了我們農業部這邊給了地方政府多少的一個行政資源的增加 |
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| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
條文修正草案案案案案。 |
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條文修正草案案。 |
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三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具 «遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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我想跟委員說明因為在18法裡面第19條就有規範就是我們今天除了這些售假以外我們針對其他的這些補列的這些列據的部分我們可以會可以得我們來公告 |
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條文修正草案．一．三．本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．一．三．本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具 |
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列具,那這樣的一個列具我們在過往其實推動的包括宣導已經宣導的蠻普遍的,那我們希望說在一段時間之內如果把這個改良式的列具推到某個程度的時候,那我們就可以根據第十九條去做一個公告,禁止這個現有的原來的山豬料的一個製造。部長 |
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三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具三）本院委員 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案 案件中的其中一項條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分 |
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但是你們話沒有講清楚啊好我跟委員說明齁其實除了業績以外我們農業部的立場對山豬調也是反對的但是以剛才講的因為山豬調現在有他繼續用的一個需要改變名字嗎我們不要用山豬調啦對就不要用這個我們用改良式的業績他不再是山豬調了對我們現在的改良式業績我們未來只要是我們正式在三至六個月我覺得你這個時間要有要有魄力啦是到底是三個月六個月給你們宣導 |
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然後如果宣導了我們希望大家用改聯式的列句不是刪除掉之後我們全面禁止刪除掉 |
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我想比較務實的部分我們可以承諾就是說在一年之內因為我們把這些改良式的列據跟原住民特別是原住民地區的狩獵要更好的一個溝通所以我們承諾說一年之內我們改良式的列據推廣我們就把刪除掉現有的原來的刪除掉就把它禁止用變成一個改良式的列據用19條的部分19條你們直接公告禁止 |
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條例部分條文修正草案 案。 |
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條文修正草案案件事項,並不是直接影響到所謂獵捕了這個大型的野生保護的一些動物。所以我就要講清楚,否則每一次好像我們修了法都走那個一半的。 |
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三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具《遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一、第三十六條條文修正草案》案。 |
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所以就是一年一年之後你們就會公告禁止所以這一年讓你們去做一些推廣改良式的列據把改良式列據把它宣傳宣導這樣子這個要很確定這是在這裡講的我們在左條審的時候也會把它納入所以我覺得這個部分還有 |
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現在行政院版本有針對持有販售製造陳列輸出入進行納管那重點是你們要怎麼去從源頭管理啊 |
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條文修正草案案案件。 |
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謝謝陳廷飛委員接下來請鄭天才委員發言主席各位委員有請陳代理部長來請陳部長 |
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部長好 委員好今天審查這個《野保法》還有《遠洋漁業條例》原住民族基本法第十九條是在94年2月5號就公布施行原住民得依法獵捕野生動物而且是以傳統文化距離自用為限 |
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九十四年到現在一直沒有辦法落實。我們曾經也在第九屆提出《野保法》但是草譯協商沒有完成沒有辦法刪讀。106年2月24號草譯協商然後在第十屆就是上一屆我們再次的提出《野保法》的修正 |
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同樣,雖然經濟委員會審完了,但是草也協商沒有完成。所以,因為《野保法》21條之一遲遲未通過,導致原住民主一直被起訴,然後打官司要打很久。我們看這個2017年、106年, |
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這個本席特別去聲援布農族的獵人王光祿我特別提了這個牌子國家違法因為也是原住民族基本法已經規定的很明確了但是野保法一直不修很多的你們的官員包括檢察官就起訴 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第四十條條文修正草案．立法院議員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一及第四十條條文修正草案．立法院議員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．立法院議員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．立法院議員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．立法院議員楊瓊瓔等21人擬 |
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條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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第五十一條之一、本席的修正條文跟行政院版最大的差距。」 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
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我想跟委員說明我們新年版本裡面我們大概有分為保育類跟一般野生類的部分因為在整個動物保護來講一般野生動物跟保育類動物他是有不一樣的概念保護的概念所以我們有不同的這些處罰的一個條例這個條文我先談剛才一直農業部 |
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條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
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所提出來的我們的尊重但是也要尊重原住民族在台灣這塊土地上千百年來造成這個野生動物各方面造成的減少絕對不是原住民 |
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| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
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條條例部分條文修正草案案。以這條條文來講就是要希望能夠維持維持現行的條文然後做適度的一個修正其實這個部長還有署長去打獵的時候你能看得清楚這是保育類還是不是保育類嗎?晚上怎麼看得出來呢?對不對? |
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條文修正草案．第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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條文修正草案案 案。 |
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7524.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
7528.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
條文修正草案案 案件,其中一項負面負面負面負面負面負面 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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沒有配合《原住民族基本法》去修正。據我們而言,就你們而言,因為已經12年了,所以已經宣導過了。但是據我們而言,這次三讀通過之後才開始,所以這事上會有很大的差別。好不好,希望不要堅持,希望能夠照我的條文。以上,謝謝。謝謝鄭天才委員。接下來我們請張嘉峻委員詢答。 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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7633.2 |
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條文修正草案 案 案 條文修正草案 案 |
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不曉得部長知道漁業證照裡面會註明的內容是什麼?這個漁業證照裡面會載明其漁船名然後船體的各項數據包括母港跟國際呼號等等,署長對不對? |
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7710.675 |
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那這些事項其實是並不會太平凡的變更假設變更也必須要主動申報然後來換照那也就是說漁民可能他經營了幾十年他的漁業證照內容是不會百變的團員手冊也是一樣就像一個身分證或者是護照一樣那送訊之後基本資料基本上都是固定的 |
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其實沒有必要那麼頻繁的來更換所以這一次連部長不曉得部長怎麼看你覺得五年這樣子更換會不會太短?我個人覺得齁如果說他的他的異動不是那麼頻繁然後我們也確保又回到我們發正的原始精神如果說不違反這個原始精神的話做適度的放寬我是我是覺得應該可行的 |
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7735.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
條文修正草案案 案件中﹚一、審查：一、審查 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、二十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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所以我建議既然部長今天支持是不是可以儘速的來修改是不是5年把它延程10年比照互照一般讓這些漁民可以減少這些例行性的行政作業然後對基層的公務人員也有注意?部長是否同意?我們會來檢討那特別是我剛才講的就是說我們這個 |
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條文修正草案案的安全性我們如果能夠克服包括說回到原始精神我們發正的原始精神那哪一些該注意的我們去做檢討那檢討的時候才會去思考說怎麼樣放寬跟放寬的一個年限是因為 |
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三條之一、第三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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他如果沒有主觀申報是違法的。有一個重要的是傳播安全檢查,這個是不是可以容許署長講一下。好,來,署長。跟委員報告,特定漁業執照會五年為一個期限,最主要是搭配我們傳播安全檢查還是五年為一個期限。那我們要確定這個傳播安全的才能夠發給他特定漁業執照,這是大概第一個。 |
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條文修正草案案件事項及其安全性等條文修正草案案件事項及其安全性等條文修正草案案件事項及其安全性 |
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| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
後來又變成六年,現在變成十年,所以這不是沒有檢討的空間嗎?所以一定不要再繼續饒民傷財了。我跟委員說明,我們會來檢討,但是漁船證跟船員證跟護照是不一樣的概念,因為船員證本身他出海以後他的技能他的安全務必要特別考量。這一點我拜託部長還有署長是不是儘速的來研議,能不能 |
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條文修正草案案 案件及其其他條文修正草案 案件及其其其其他條文修正草案 案件及其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其 |
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| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查 |
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| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
8039.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
這一點我也非常讚許部長一定要趕快把我們主管機關農業部的立場說明白我們是支持我們的弱農我們是支持標示鮮乳跟保酒乳一定要分開讓他識別清楚讓消費者也清楚啊否則這是在誤導消費者雖然這件事情是這個衛福部要去調整的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
但是主管機關農業部的立場你這樣子鮮明的表達出來這對弱農就是一個強心劑就是讓我們的弱農知道說至少我們的農業部主管機關是支持我們台灣弱農的我想我們針對弱農的一個輔導其實持續在做特別是在從今年開始我們像 |
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| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
跟行政院提供了一個弱農的一個產業的一個正新方案。那裏面就有很多的測試從生產面到產品面的……是 這個本席有瞭解我就是說可是這個提案真的有點慢欸就是弱農業、汰換這個老弱乳牛等等從去年研議到現在 |
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都還沒有辦法實施到底是為什麼?我跟委員說明就是改名詞不是說我今天改了大家同意就改了因為它牽扯到很多國際貿易的接軌所以很多必須調和的是這個我完全同意但是我希望要求部長要求我們的農業主管機關一定要 |
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來明確的要求衛福部增加產品的辨識度,讓消費者能夠更客觀的選擇。」對,我們會持續跟衛福部做溝通。好,謝謝。謝謝張家俊委員。接下來我們請謝伊鳳委員發言。我們在邱志偉委員發言結束之後休息五分鐘。 |
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條文修正草案案。 |
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首先我跟陳部長你先澄清先來釐清一個事情就是說我根據明報的報導說就是他是說進口雞蛋跟整個就是銷毀的過程多花了納稅人八千多萬但是你們澄清這些都沒有多花納稅人的錢但是我們看到中央續產會裡面 |
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條文修正草案案 案件,不論是在他的收入裡面,都是40.33%都是政府委辦的計劃,有百分之將近52%是政府補助的計劃,所以這92.多%全部都是來自於政府,來自於人民的納稅錢,是不是? |
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我跟委員說明,續產會本身的相關的這些計劃的,它有的部分是做產業調節還有一些續設改建,或者是由中央委託續產會去做的所以從整個的收入來講,就是大概就是就像這邊所說的就是說都是政府補助跟政府 |
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條文修正草案案件事項﹖一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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條文修正草案 案。 |
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條文修正草案．一、二、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
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條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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條文修正草案案件事宜,為何我們彰化找不到?現在就是說,人力團本身可能要有一個組。我們現在是透過農會,如果農會願意的話,我們會協助他成立一個人力團。甚至有一些外展的,就是外籍移工進來做農務的部分,總共有一萬兩千人。所以說,如果彰化地區那邊有比較需要的時候,我們也會來協助農會那邊去成立這樣的一個團來協助。 |
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等到需要再成立的時候都已經來不及了。這種東西你一定要先成立。我知道我現在我們也會像我們輔導書積極的跟農會因為他本身的外展的部分都需要有住宿還有一些管理所以我們持續在跟農會看適當的農會有這樣的條件我們都會來協助 |
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還有農民職災保險的部分我們看到了現在農民職災保險你們預計是要達到75%可是現在離75%有多少大概還有5萬農民職業災保險在新的辦法裡面先加入農保的就是強制的 |
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條文修正草案．一．三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
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五十點九萬五十點九萬嘛。那75%就是多少?三十八萬嗎?三十六到三十八左右啦。那我就說啦,你現在還離那個有五萬,那你怎麼做? |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十條之一及第四十條之一及第四十條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
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就是不要再以主要是農民職災保險的因果關係例如像什麼噴灑農藥或熱衰竭那例如像這樣子感染登革熱算不算不能重農算不算是農民那個農民職災保險我跟委員說明其實登革熱那個時候 |
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我們也主動的為農民去爭取其實在登革熱本身他不是直接的職業傷害那我們也去積極的去爭取打納入我們的農業職業災害的保險的範圍那這是第一步那接下來委員所說的我非常認同就是說有很多那個起始點的部分跟他的樣態的部分我覺得我們可以有精進的地方 |
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還有我們今天討論的是野保法那我想要請問在2023年如果就是說我們所要保育的這個台灣黑熊所受傷的十三例全部大概有十一例都是跟人為的狩獵是有關係的那你要怎麼樣子降低這樣子的狩獵行為以及 |
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條例部分條文修正草案 案 。 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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8620.387 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第四十六條條文修正草案案。」案。 ︎二）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．一、三十六條之一及第四十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條 |
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當我捕獲了以後當他復原了以後我就隨便的去做野放那這樣的可能會侵害了一些附近的這些居住權所以我們未來我想我們會在這個部分找到一個更適當的一個平衡點 |
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條文修正草案案案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
8689.267 |
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我跟委員報告那個黑熊的族群是逐漸在擴張所以他進入到人跟人越來越接近這個是未來我們一定要面對我們現在做的就是在這兩者之間能夠達到橫評所以我們會推改良式列舉第一個第二個我們在黑熊野放的時候也都會徵詢當地社區或者是部落居民的意見他們同意我們才會這樣子做 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
8734.344 |
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對,預警還有可以捕捉他然後再把他回到他原本的棲息地這個過程你都要有整個配套不要發生的時候才導致於居民的恐慌疑慮那甚至對於我們保育的這個保育類動物也沒有辦法真正的對他進行保護啊,是不是?我們在努力朝這個方向 |
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條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
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剛剛參政卿委員談到酪農,我們進來的那個牛奶的一個問題。那大概這個問題我處理過兩年。 |
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在苗栗縣趙橋鄉只有小小的幾家,但是生產量過剩的時候都沒有辦法解決。現在從紐西蘭零關稅的進口,牛奶的品質又好,它又有科技化把它結成一個冰下來。所以剛剛講說你們對酪農要怎麼輔導,我不抱著期待。 |
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我相信臺灣的肉農會慢慢的被消滅,會逐漸的凋零,逐漸的消失,因為我們的競爭價格實在比不夠好。所以我正在處理那個事情我就感覺啊,算了,他也把那個肉牛的母牛都賣了很多頭啊。 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查． |
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就是我們現在的國產的牛乳大概有佔的將近八成九到九成的之間那本身我們怎麼樣讓我們的國產牛奶做市場的區隔然後增加它後端的一個拉力那是我們積極要努力的現在我只跟你講若龍養的肉牛一直在減少終究會被淘汰在五年之內不然我們來看看你們仍然在此準備看看你的結果我覺得不會 |
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第二點因為冷鏈物流一直是農業部在推動苗栗縣好像那幾年都沒有申請到但是我記得保留到明年度我們的中東景縣長對冷鏈物流非常的重視麻煩是給我們加強我想冷鏈的部分我們其實正在建構整個臺灣島的冷鏈物流網它不會特別就是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
條文修正草案案 條例提出我常常懷疑一個問題 |
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| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
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十五是苗栗縣的縣府一個一個標誌的一個保護的動物那苗栗縣也推展成功但是我每次跟你為什麼討論這個問題我一講到十五我選舉的票就少了幾千票但是我是很務實的人我要把地方的情形其實的反應我只現在要求你一點 |
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因為我選舉期間在海縣地區海縣苗栗縣有四個鄉鎮直蘭鎮沒有那支食物保護區後龍、通宵、燕尼你把它那支食物的保護區那我一直反映了好幾次那我為什麼一直要反映雖然我的票為了這樣減少但是我從來要轉向的海靠海的地方 |
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第十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
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8995.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
9009.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
三條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
9010.991 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
9013.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
9038.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
9041.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
9068.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
9069.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
9079.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
9106.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
9112.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
9129.433 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
那個張市長我很謝謝你對苗栗縣的漁港這樣建設跟支持但是我今天看了一個資料說你們去年1月時跟人員時討論成立共存共榮基金在離岸風力 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
9131.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
9156.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
共存共榮基金是要以漁民的補償還是地方的回饋?各位委員報告這個是整體的方案一個是給漁民的協助第一個部分就是漁民受到的損失給他補償第二個就是漁民可能要做一些轉型或者是在地的一些資源的養分所以這個共存共榮的基金是在漁民之間使用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
9157.891 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
9183.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
我跟委員說明一下那個整個的一個像風電的部分他有補償但是他有一個共農基金他不是一個直接的補償他是利用這個共農的基金本身所的費用能夠做整個漁港的包括漁港的建設然後會來漁港的這些文化還有漁民本身的一個進出所以他是一個綜合的一個他是由相關的漁會漁會的部分去做相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
9185.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
9187.053 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
條文修正草案案案案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
9211.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
9211.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
9230.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
9231.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
9245.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
9265.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
你說在一百一十三年以後,阿我讀的我阿哥到海,前臺灣省第一座離岸風力車在我苗栗縣,阿他們以前做了都沒有回饋,後面的有回饋,你看我要怎麼來討論這件事情,阿想做人就想討論,你知道我講的意思嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
9267.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
9292.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
我們在竹南地方有一個四萬的那個離岸風力的在那一邊現在你這條設下來後面的人就有共存共農資金那以前設立我先做我先做我沒有一點收穫沒有離岸風電他補償補償費有補償費那共農基金有共農基金那我們在1月23號所以你現在補償費跟共農基金都要跟我講嗎沒有這兩個是分開的喔這兩個是不一樣的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
9296.752 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
9310.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
市長,你下來下鄉好好解釋這一條。你現在有補償會,還有共榮、共存基金都拿走,一些地方政府都拿不到了。我想我們會再積極的去做一個宣導。 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
9311.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
9333.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
這個共農基金不是只有農會可以使用,它是一個管理委員會的方式去執行的,我想我們會加強這方面的一個現場。我先講好了,不然會增加我們困擾,尤其現在我們苗栗縣的風力最強,高高風,我每天給人家擦到頭暈眼花了,下來幫我說明清楚,更了解一下。還有我跟你講,跟能源使一起要討論。 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
9334.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
9335.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
9363.746 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
9392.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
部長今天要處理這個遠洋漁業條例我想台灣作為漁業的大國也是我想我們一定是跟國際相關規範來走那我們大概來做一些相關處理但是我還是要再提醒農業部其實從全球的漁業的狀況來看這未來的十年其實還是會呈現上升的一個趨勢包括人類對於魚類的它是一個很好的蛋白質來源我想這都會持續的來增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
9392.602 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
9415.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
特别是在高收入的国家,它的量会持续的增加,所以作为本来就是远洋漁业的大国的时候,其实这是我们的一些优势,那我也希望农业部跟漁业署能够持续的强化,强化我们在漁业上面的这些优势,不要让我们很具有竞争力很有优势的一个产业,然后在国际竞争上面去一个弱势。 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
9416.766 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
9434.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
9434.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
9435.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
9462.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
9485.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
那我們的遠洋業其實真的是相當具有競爭力在2022年的時候遠洋漁有48萬噸年產值大概355億這還不包括了包括上下游的相關產業包括整個加工業包括冷凍倉儲包括修造船或者是漁網漁具這個都非常的強這個都是在全世界那如果整體來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
9486.306 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
9511.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
條文修正草案案件事件。但是從去年前政院館發生的事情就知道其實很多國人其實並不了解甚至很多的當時的議員要選立委的都還不太清楚所以我意思說這個還是希望部跟署裡面要加強去做宣導我們有這麼強的一個遠洋的實力那如果連連要參選立委的都搞不清楚還在講什麼抓歌集啦還在虧這種的話顯然是完全不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
9512.008 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
9540.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
一般的國人可能更不一定那麼清楚甚至被似是而非的言論去講我還是希望未來加強去做宣導我們的漁業是一個很強的有一個高產值甚至於在很多的產業方面是養家活口造成很多人的一個生計的我覺得這個要不斷的讓國人更清楚的知道我想我們會持續加強遠洋漁業本身的正面的這些貢獻雖然說有少部分那種偶發的而且是這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
9542.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
9544.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
9566.297 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
9568.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案條例部分條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
9583.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
9611.283 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
三百零三艘的漁船被開罰也就是說大概我們總數一千一百艘大概有將近三分之一超過四分之一啦是踩到了這一條線被踩罰了那顯然在很多的宣導跟溝通跟輔導上我們還有更多加強的空間是不是也請部長跟署長一個月內的時間我們再整體盤點一下好不好對一些輔導的機制整個什麼樣的機制讓我們的這些漁民們不要那麼輕易的踩掉這一條紅線好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
9612.463 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
9614.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
條文修正草案案案件及其其他條文修正草案案件及其其其其其其其其 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
9633.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
9633.978 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
9655.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
9673.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
條文修正草案案案件的成敗的關鍵來自於將來是不是找到一個好的產業能夠進駐進入進來成指標性的產業進入進來的話對整個前陣營港這個會有相當大的一個進展那我知道後來因為也這個農業部有採用OT的一個方式來進行我問一下部長現在進度到哪邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
9674.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
9702.356 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
這個初步我可以請那個業主先回答一下目前我們已經完成初步的整個可行性評估然後因為這個OT的部分促參的部分我們必須經過農業部的審查那我們已經送到農業部農業部也排很快的時間之內就會進行相關的審查部長一定什麼時候可以來審查完畢來進行整體的部分就是已經可以去處理的我希望說能夠都能夠到四月底到五月底之前都會把它完成第一階段的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
9702.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
9713.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
條文修正草案案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十七條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
9719.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
9741.856 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
但是我們之前我們會有階段性的一個審查的對話我希望部長這邊跟署長這邊加快這個速度好不好 這個越早招商完成越早把好的廠商找進來會加速整個地方上面的一個推動那再來是我看到年限上面後來也做了一些調整30年的時間從最早期的時間拉長那30年當然將來業者他投入的時候他比較能夠去估算他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
9742.336 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
9750.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
整個未來投資有20加10這樣的方式。但是我看到五十漁港有到五十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
9753.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
9781.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
我還是請農業部省內思考啦但我還是希望你們去邀商的時候多聽聽看業界的一些聲音重點是招到強的廠商進來好的廠商進來的話就很輕鬆愉快的經營啦但是如果你找到的是不是一個強的廠商的話恐怕後面就會讓大家很擔憂那個廠商他需要多長連線恐怕大家有很多人他們會有很多的一些整體的思考他要投入很多的規模的話他要相當的那因為我們現在在努力把捷運黃線能夠拉進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
9782.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
9785.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
9816.941 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
9824.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
改良式的劣距也有包括金屬的材質嗎?因為今天很多版本都是希望全面禁用金屬材質 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
9835.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
9837.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
9867.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
9884.312 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
所以大部分是金屬嗎?對,所以金屬材質其實不是問題,是它的現境,現行的那個市售的現境過期。所以你推廣了兩年,為什麼還提那麼多的修法,都是全面禁止金屬?這是全面禁止是售假,售假全面禁止。 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
9885.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
9908.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
現在的那個高分子的技術,它也可以做成是塑膠線,那個殺傷力會更強,它不是金屬。你說山豬釣那個部分嗎?對,我想跟委員說明,今天最主要就是售甲的部分我是完全禁止,但是針對山豬釣的部分,我們在這次的修法並沒有去提,但是在19條裡面,它有一個我們還可以依照主管機關公告的這個列據, |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
9909.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
9936.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
那現在刪除掉還有它必須要存在的一些原因所以我們現在積極的在推動改良式的這些列據你應該跟所有提案委員做充分的說明啊對剛才有說就是我們會推這個所謂的然後在一年之內盡可能的因為這樣解釋得很清楚我了解接著這個遠洋遠洋漁業的問題目前我國從事遠洋漁業的這個傳言人數大概有多少我國籍的大概有多少人數我國籍的 |
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9937.219 |
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五國籍的大概在兩千人左右。」遠洋漁業有高風險,包括機械故障,包括船員傷亡或傷病,甚至船員失蹤。你們在2017年就成立這個漁業監控中心,針對各項的狀況你們都有掌握,都有通報,五年770件。 |
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一年大概154件,當然主要是集中在機械故障、傷病、冤死亡。所以你們有沒有什麼方法可以讓機械故障的這個案件數能夠下降,能夠確保漁船在作業或者在遠洋的過程中能夠符合四航標準,有沒有更積極的作為? |
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條文修正草案案案件及其安全等條文修正草案案件及其安全等條文修正草案案件及其安全等條 |
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這部分已經經過協調了那大概相關部會也都支持我們會針對船上常用的這個部分讓他可以攜帶足夠的藥物所以你要去宣導有共識之外就去宣導讓這些遠洋漁業的這個從業的這個船員能夠了解他們的這個權益另外失蹤案平均有9點事件那這個算是高喔漁業署有沒有加強監禁的作為 |
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對因為失蹤案就主要發生的原因就是意外落海那現在我們有推救生衣的部分就是遠洋漁船大概總共會補助兩萬件等於是船上幾乎每個人在甲板上工作規定就是要穿救生衣那落海之後就是比較容易收救另外給他定位指示器這個會補助一萬具那這個就比較容易收救這降低這個失蹤數這個大概是確保他們的安全另外韓國有個經驗就是說 |
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二（二二二KBRAND韓流行銷作業結合他們觀光、結合他們相關的部門,特別是把農產品、農漁產品透過平台、透過跨部會的合作一起來行銷韓國主要的商品。 |
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當然農業部也有加長農產品國際行銷方案,但是我是覺得只局限於農產品,也應該更大的思維、更大的視野,結合其他不像說體育、文化或者藝術 |
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把這個整體做一個臺灣整體的行銷啊,這個部分可以參考韓國K不認經驗。」這個部長。我還很謝謝委員的建議齁,就是過往其實像在東京之別兩大的展覽我們都是以農產品為主,但是我們在建築或是其他的部分的活動的時候是有跟其他的文化產業連接在一起。那剛才委員提到就是說應該更鏈接其他的部會齁一起去行銷,那這個部分我想我們會積極來努力。 |
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對,包括體育啦、文化啦、藝術啦。對,我跟委員說明,我們現在正在推,就是體育,就是奧運有沒有,我們現在飛機上面去弄一個農產品,臺灣雲南農產品的這些東西,推到飛機上去,這個就是一個例子。這個最好是有個T-brand,那T-brand一定要包含這個石斑跟這個虱目魚。 |
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二）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
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能否仿照歐盟跟美國的做法?美國有SIMP,對不對?那歐盟有漁獲證書計畫,這都很嚴格啊。確保這個所有漁獲並非來自IUU。那我們的查驗能力,修法之後我們的查驗能力夠不夠? |
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第一部分就是說我們會去公告就是不能進口的這已經符合IUU的規範不能進口的然後進來的時候我們在邊境會做把關那邊境如果是像魚類是凍品的時候他會經過衛福部的非追不可的系統第一階段他會登錄 |
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條文修正草案案案件及其成本等條文修正草案案件及其成本等條文修正草案案件及其成本等條文修正草案案件及其成本等條文 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會及第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一 |
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國際上打擊IU是不遺餘力所以我們包括對出口對進口的部分都有相關法規來做規範所以這個部分我們是把進口這個部分把它補足那就是說我們是跟國際同步的而且避免以後發生這樣的事但是我們裁法不是我們的目的而是不要發生這件事所以我們有相關的措施來努力另外這個如果強迫勞動的狀況 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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這個所謂的血汗海鮮會不會未來也會變為IUU的一個樣態之一?各位委員報告目前美國已經把強迫勞動列為是IUU的樣態之一那我覺得把台灣認為是強迫勞動的這個對我們的漁業是不公平的 |
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不能因為少數個案而且未經證實的就把臺灣的漁業認為是血岸海鮮。有沒有跟相關單位來反映?有。那目前我們漁業與人權這個行動計畫其實針對很多方面都已經在做努力。那國外包括NGO、初步也都認同臺灣的努力。那這個後續我們還是要...什麼時候可以提出這個名單呢? |
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每年公布嗎?每兩年公布一次。對啊,你從2020第一次被列入名單,2022也有一次,對不對?是。現在就2024了喔?對。那2024會不會還是被列入名單?這個我們在努力,也跟在做相關的國際溝通。不能因為個案而影響到台灣整體的形象喔?是。好,一起努力喔。好,謝謝。好,謝謝邱智維委員。好,我們現在休息。 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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謝謝主席,來有請部長。來請部長。部長好。2022年我們開始從日本專案進口雞蛋,然後有相關的報告在2022年的時候其實有揭露。我在2月20號的時候開始發文跟我們的農業部 |
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以及中央續產會調2022年我們日本進口雞蛋的補助金額、採購的數量跟金額還有跟哪些廠商採購。到今天為止我2月20號發文,到今天為止我沒有得到我需要的資訊。在農業部 |
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回給我的公文當中三月二十一號說沒有簽訂採購合約三月二十五號說部分系以合約執行所以到底哪一個是對的? |
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我想我第一個先跟委員致歉就是說因為整個的一個雞蛋的一個執行是由中央序長會執行的那我們在第一時間我們先...中央序長會的董事長現在是哪位?是我們現在董事長是由我們的杜文貞次長當代理董事長所以你們兩位溝通應該沒那麼困難吧?沒有這個就是我們第一時間去問中央序長會的時候他回給我們說是...所以是你們的次長搞錯是不是? |
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所以我想是應該是在承辦因為在整個雞蛋的調度的過程中那本身我們也做了一些內部的一些行政的一些查核的過程中那因為承辦人所以說後面的還是對的有部分的好來我們繼續看2022年日本章案進口雞蛋到底進了幾櫃 |
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你們回給我的是211貴我看去年市場會的決算數是192貴哪一個數字才是對的? |
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我們那個要分兩個部分因為在111年的時候當時還沒有開專案進口是美國、日本跟澳洲的部分回給你的部分可能是針對日本的部分所以你看嘛續產會的決算書日本後面寫幾個日本後面寫幾個那你回給我寫幾個 |
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二一一一百一十一年的部分所以我問你哪一個是對的嗎?應該是二百一...二一一是包括美國跟澳洲二一一是包括美國跟澳洲的部分那一九二的部分是日本的部分來來來來來看一下一百一十一年中央續產會與自由基金委託貿易商代理製日本專案進口雞蛋計兩百一十一貴寫的是日本 |
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條文修正草案案 案。 |
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中央訊財會以自有基金委託貿易商自日本專案進口雞蛋計211棍。」所以你今天告訴我 這個描述是錯誤的 是嗎?根據我們現在最新得到的訊息 這個是錯的這是兩年前的事情了我跟你們所知整整超過了一個多月到我現在連這麼粗略的資訊都可以搞錯 |
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中訓場會是螺絲掉光了嗎?如果211是對的那你們去年那個決算書內容不就虛偽不實?我有說錯嗎? |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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條文修正草案案件事務委員會負責修正草案案件事務委員會負責修正草案案件事務委員會負責 |
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結果你們回復我說這是商業機密請問這是什麼商業機密我們用納稅人的錢去買雞蛋我說跟哪一些貿易商計不能夠講在遮掩什麼不過我想我們絕對不是遮掩因為相關的這些進口專案合約因為並不是農業部訂的是由續產會跟貿易商訂的那以他們的合約的部分他們列有相關的保密條款來他保密條款是怎麼寫的 |
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二〇二三年我們可以公告進口雞蛋的廠商這是二〇二三年了嘛全部都公告了嘛哪一家廠商進了多少蛋多少錢這個是國民有權利知道的這絕對是國會應該監督的 |
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你們2023年可以公告結果2022年現在是涉及到什麼跟哪一個廠商買是涉及到國家機密我跟委員說明在2023年的時候一開始的時候我們也沒有同意那我們是一直跟廠商溝通得到雙方合約雙方同意以後我們才公告的所以我問你保密條款你說你2023年也沒有同意來看一下看一下2023年你們的進口雞蛋合約漲降對不對 |
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條文修正草案 案。 |
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我所瞭解我所掌握的訊息當初本身的合約不管他有沒有列保在2023年齁不管他有沒有列保密條款一定要經沒有就要經過雙方同意才能夠公開對嘛你如果有這個合約的官方我就問你寫在哪裡嗎就算因為我問過法制齁就算合約裡面沒有寫的時候然後那個契約本身是秘密 |
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不是他要雙方同意以後才能夠公開我現在在問你齁說當契約裡面有保密條款我是唸法律的人啊我契約裡面的保密條款就找了半天到底寫什麼嘛來你把你現在手上的保密條款唸給大家聽怎麼寫的以方因本件買賣而窒息甲方營業上或標示上物的資訊、情報、計畫、機密等其他相關 |
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三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具 |
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明明是以防復的保密業務!你在站在國會裡面胡扯喔!我沒有胡扯我跟委員報告齁就是我所知道因為我不是學法律但是從法務我們的法務人員給我的訊息就是合約不管有沒有寫保密的一個條款 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
11210.828 |
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11230.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
主席站起來了我尊重主席你要回答也可以請報告委員我們行政機關要提供資料出去原則上要適用政府資訊公開法所以政府資訊公開法的第18條的規定有寫說政府資訊屬於下列情形之一者應限制公開或不予提供之 |
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11254.606 |
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那委員您看一下這個18條的部分裡面來講有關於第18條的第7款的部分就是有關於法人或團體營業上的秘密或經營事業有關的資訊他的公開或提供有有侵害法人的權利或競爭地位或我現在的問題就來了政府執行公開法絕對不是按照你這樣解釋的 |
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11256.286 |
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11282.86 |
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公開這個合約是侵害到那個法人什麼營業秘密啊你站在國會上面鬼扯喔黃委員黃委員請息怒因為我們今天討論的是東寶法野保法所以可能相關的資訊準備的不是那麼充足是不是能夠讓他們再來跟黃委員報告好不好那因為我們後面還有很多委員要可以啊主席才是了我等了一個多月終於有機會諮詢你們 |
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11284.52 |
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11295.59 |
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到現在還在胡扯用政府資訊公開法前面說有保密條款被我抓出來以後根本沒有現在改扯政府資訊公開法。接下來我們請鍾嘉斌鍾嘉斌鍾嘉斌委員不在我們請高金素梅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
11319.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
11320.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
11326.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
11340.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十七條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
11351.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
11375.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
我竟表支持也謝謝署長謝謝但是呢今天我有幾個修法的問題我要跟部長來討論一下第一個就是原住民首次違反規範的免罰制度也就是野保法第51條之一過去針對原住民如果誤觸本法的規的話我們會有首次違反不罰的機會為什麼這次要刪除掉請問一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
11376.435 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
11377.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
條文修正草案案案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
11391.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
11407.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
三條之一及第四十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
11409.372 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
11410.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
11436.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
11437.746 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
11454.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
11482.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
條文修正草案案的修假。如果說我們有緩衝期的時候,那大部分都會等到緩衝期過了以後,或者是首次不罰等第二次以後再來處理。所以我們用整體的考量是希望說,同時居民禁止。就是說在110年的時候呢,跟園民會的會議裡面,園民會其實也希望就是這個你們不要把首次這個免罰的制度拿掉。 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
11483.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
11484.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
條文修正草案案案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
11506.162 |
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11529.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
所以您剛剛講到的就是用鐵匣的這個部分可是您知不知道陽明山國家公園官網的說法跟農業部的見解不一樣請問一下哪一個是錯誤的解讀陽明山國家公園所謂的鐵匣的部分跟我們的這個農委會是不一樣的說法我想我們的整個獸匣的部分我們是有定義的很清楚的定義在動保法裡面有清楚的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
11530.253 |
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11549.025 |
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你看到陽明山國家公園了嗎?他說只要是此狀的陷阱即為售假,然後農業不適,你們是要具有強力彈簧。到底這兩個到底是誰?我們在後面的實行細節我們會把它做一個更詳細的區分。所以你說在說明細節裡面會實行細則,裡面會講清楚,會講清楚,就不會有現在我給你看的這個陽明山國家公園跟農業不一樣。 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
11556.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
11573.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
11585.811 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
11604.004 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
11612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
11618.613 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
11629.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
11647.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
11648.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
11650.113 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
11664.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
11690.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
其實事實上我們的獵人都喜歡是永續的但是現在物種的滅絕不要把它全部怪罪到原住民的獵人而是我們原住民獵人夯噗隆咚加起來可能才不到10萬人也可能也沒有那麼多整個台灣的物種的滅絕把它歸類或者是無限上綱到原住民的獵人 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
11691.201 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
11708.616 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
我覺得這是非常不公平的一種說法。」我同意委員說這絕對是不公平因為保育類的動物的一個滅絕它有非常非常多的原因謝謝部長我們要做的是如何把原住民傳統山林狩獵的智慧留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
11709.577 |
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11730.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
然後讓我們的獵人做第一線保育的工作者而不是用所謂的這些法西斯的保育動物的思考模式來強加造原住民族的身上這是非常不公平的本席身為一個原住民的立法委員必須要跟這些朋友希望他們能夠理解 |
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11733.3 |
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11757.486 |
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不要都把所有的罪過放在原住民族獵人的身上,包括如果今天有崩塌,就是說原住民在山林濫砍濫伐,這樣子的錯誤觀念我們是沒有辦法承受的。」我也是認同那個委員的一個看法,絕對不能把所有的責任都怪罪在原住民。我們應該是要共享,然後共同來保護這塊山林。 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
11759.446 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
11763.908 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案 |
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11788.978 |
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11789.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
有請部長。來請陳部長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
11798.004 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
11799.085 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
11822.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
11832.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
是嗎是好那另外呢其實在野保法的21跟21之一條其實我們開了一個例外對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
11834.386 |
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11852.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
11852.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
11871.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
11881.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
11888.383 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
條文修正草案案 案件,以及其他條文修正草案 案件,以及其他條文修正草案 案件,以及其他條文修正草案 案件,以及其他條文修正草案 案件,以及其他條文修正草案 案件,以及其他條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
11890.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
11914.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
我跟委員說明就是在這次修法裡面授甲本身我們是全面禁止那後續的這些平台上的稽查我們會更強烈去處理那委員這邊所提到的山豬釣的部分因為山豬釣目前在靠近山區的這些農業地區還有原住民在狩獵的時候他可能還是必須使用那同一個時間點這個是他們傳統式的山豬釣但是相對的就是山豬釣對於動物的殺傷力蠻高的 |
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11916.693 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
11931.849 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
所以我們一直積極的推動改良式的這些列據那這樣的一個列據本身如果說能夠更大的推廣的時候那相對的就能夠取掉刪除掉那剛才我們也承諾就是說我們在改良式的這個列據裡面去積極的推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
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11954.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
條之一及第十九條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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11959.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
11966.669 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
對,兩年多前,那我們中間有再改良,現在是到2.0版,因為這個必須要給農民試用有效,大家才會明白。 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
11969.076 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
11994.409 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
我們大概將近3700多具那最主要是山豬尿同樣是鋼索但是鋼索的陷阱跟他的那個口徑的大小會影響到他的動物的這個被捕獲以後的那個受傷程度所以我們針對改良式的列具裡面就針對他的陷阱變粗應該這麼講目前有效的汰換率如何 |
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11995.009 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
12023.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
就是已經有試用過這麼多了嘛因為我們已經推兩年了嘛但是問題是目前我們的汰換率如何如果還是很消極的做法其實傳統的山豬釣它依舊存在我跟委員說明就是用過的人都會覺得它好但是相對的就是說我們的宣導要更積極因為有些原民部落我們要更深入原民部落裡面讓那些部落的長者能夠做有效的那比較年輕的大概一看到這個特別是在山區的靠近山區的農民 |
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| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
他們願意試嗎?而且是免費的嘛。我們是免費的汰換喔。比較年輕的。所以說年輕的族群,特別是農民,三巡農民,他們汰換率就比較高。但是在原住民,特別在深山的一些部落的長者,他們可能訊息不是那麼了解。所以我們這部分我們要更積極的去處理。 |
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其實我今天就是兩個重點第一我們在市面當中依舊還是看到有所謂的山豬山豬的陷阱他們這些陷阱的販賣依舊還在存在那我們是不是一樣可以依照所謂的動保法十四第二條十四之二條其實未經主管機關許可其實任何人是不得製造販售以及陳列甚至輸出這些所謂的金屬的套具這個是第一個我們一定要積極 |
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12070.805 |
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12077.292 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
條文修正草案案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文 |
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12085.762 |
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12111.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
一打出來我隨便搜尋其實還是一大堆那第二點其實真的就是我剛剛所說的既然我們的改良是你們也認為比較人道也比較好動物比較不容易受傷那這個部分我們就積極的去推廣積極的去汰換那我們不是說不能讓21或者是21之一條開例外但是就這個部分我們繼續努力好不好好謝謝謝謝部長謝謝主席 |
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12114.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
12116.029 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
條文修正草案案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
12142.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
12156.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
好沒關係我們先開始好了那就是說在針對我們這次的野保法修法其實是已經是非常非常久102年之後的第一次嘛那我也知道說林業署這幾年其實一直都在今年應該是有做一些研習也會有些相關的座談會來做一個通盤的檢討 |
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12177.513 |
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但是我認為我們現在不能只有處理野保法我們同時是要一併的來考量我們的所謂的動保法那主要來看這個定義上面我們的野生動物保育法第三條對於野生動物的定義是指說一般狀況之下應生存於棲息環境下的哺乳類等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
12178.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
12180.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、其他人為飼養或管理的脊椎動物。」 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
12197.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
12198.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
12222.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
12246.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
對,所以我就在定義上面其實有是有要再做修正的地方因為我們來回到上一頁上一頁你看他是指犬貓及其他人為飼養的脊椎動物所以剛剛那個犬貓並不是人為飼養的所以這個地方是不是要去做一些調整所以我的想法是這樣子就是說我們動保法裡面並沒有包含無脊椎動物可是我們現在有很多人是養一些無脊椎動物當寵物那難道就要用野保法來管嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
12248.466 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
12263.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
12263.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
條文修正草案案 。 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
12289.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
12289.907 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
條文修正草案案案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
12305.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
12307.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
12326.215 |
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12352.375 |
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他們都會去要求在申請書上面要填寫這個動物識別的方式那也就會造成說當他這個動物溢失的時候他們可以去辨別他那可是我們現在是我們現在的並沒有做這樣子的一個識別的機制不管是對動物我們一般的飼養或是針對保育類的部分有保育類的方式你看上面是沒有任何的識別的方式欸 |
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| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
12355.156 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
條例部分條文修正草案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
12363.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
12390.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
12391.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
12403.156 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．第十四條之一、第三十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
12412.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
12413.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
條例部分條例部分條例部分條例部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
12440.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
12445.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
條文修正草案案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文修正草案案件及其他條文 |
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12467.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
12471.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
條文修正草案案案件及其其他條文修正草案案件及其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其其 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
12494.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
12504.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
主席先宣告一下我們中午不休息 延長開會時間謝謝主席 那我們是有請我們部長來請陳部長委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
12512.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
12533.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
部長雖然今天講漁業跟動保那我有一個比較我感覺比較急的事情想要跟部長講一下就是說我們今年第一期的水稻在嘉義跟台南本來照這個輪灌的一個制度去年是嘉義停灌 |
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臺南亭灌輪灌、臺南亭灌、嘉義耕作,因為我們趕翻是烏山河水系的。今年就因為去年有比較長的九年欠水,所以後來把臺南的部分讓它恢復公灌,也就是它可以繼續種植水稻。現在產生一個問題來了,過去,因為我們這台是後面比較固定的,過去水利會, |
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12581.211 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案 案件中,他會做分區供水。分區供水最主要目的當然就是為了讓水稻是可以在賣工時間作為修行。那後來因為我們臨時改變了這個政策方向,定義有打破原則啦。 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
12582.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
12583.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
12598.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
12599.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
國務部長你有注意到這件事嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
12629.501 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
12633.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
條文修正草案案 案件及其其他條文修正草案 案件及其其其他條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
12650.518 |
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12676.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、二十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
12677.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
12677.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
條例部分條文修正草案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
12693.584 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
12718.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
所以他們的工資變成他們很重要的身分的一個來源所以我現在歡樂的就是說又遇到這樣的話看起來今年的產量是會因為又在同一時間會有相對衝高的一個效果我歡樂今年齁一起的價格跟他的成本萬不幸齁這個介紹不夠漂亮啊他的身分都卡關 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
12719.744 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
12735.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
三條之一、第三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
12736.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
12746.795 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具 «遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
12755.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
因為水稻如果說供糧提高了以後,從我們過去的經驗,當年可能不錯,當年民糧也會跟著走。」市長、部長我都知道你的意思啦,因為很多農民,他們的心想就是說,要不然這個供糧的價錢來優管,尤其我們在剛才喔,價錢不好的時候,哇這個聲音就會更大。對,我們會...部長你必須要正視農民有這樣子一個聲音。我絕對會正視齁。你一定要正視農民現在對於整個齁, |
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| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具 |
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| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
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三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
12825.231 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
12834.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
12851.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
12852.045 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
條文修正草案案 。 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
12872.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
12872.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
三條之一及第四十四條條文修正草案案。」案。 |
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12891.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
12896.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
條文修正草案案 案件,其中其中其中其中其中其中其中其中其中其中其中其中其 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
12920.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
12922.478 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
12950.077 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
12951.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案。」案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
12964.248 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
12964.929 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
條文修正草案．一．一．三． |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
12984.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
13004.201 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
即宜或非營利自用的墓地的話是免罰但是需要被查。一般野生動物在非原住民的話依據21條是免罰並沒有需要被查。另外一個部分我們也看到院版關於第十九條的部分關於這些列補的方法 |
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13005.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
13018.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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13023.591 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
13045.602 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
這樣的一個文字。」所以我自己在修正動議我是希望說把原住民族的傳統列據把它分別的列出另外也連動到21條之一也希望去做一個分別的處理把它納入傳統列據再來就是希望能夠鑑於資訊落差有一個兩年的輔導期 |
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13049.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
13050.326 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
條文修正草案案案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
13064.867 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
13086.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
所以我們這次的修法台用這個授甲的部分是很明確的而且還有它的定義的部分那第二個部分就是您提到說就是當我實施以後有兩年的一個緩衝期的部分我要跟委員說明就是說當我們做禁止的時候我如果提供了兩年的緩衝期那對於在使用這個獵具的人他就會 |
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13087.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
13116.933 |
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等到兩年以後再說,那我們同步在推改良式的這些列具,所以我們希望說改良式的列具能夠盡快的去推。所以我特別要請袁明慧這個地方要幫忙一下,就是關於什麼是傳統列具,它的規範、它的輔導,那個我希望袁明慧一起來推動這個部分好不好?好,各位委員報告,其實相關的辦法我們也跟這個林保署也開過很多的會議,那如同剛剛部長所說的這個負面表列的這個部分, |
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條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案 |
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他的案件申請是每一年的一月一號到四月底但是呢根據我們的草案說施行後的一年內他是用框定一年內如果你要針對七年的以上的照領呢要終止他要加入進法補償是很好 |
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13193.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
免返還已領取的照領獎勵金。」所以這個部分是很好的一個權益可是我們很關心何時上路因為他進法補償的申請到四月底如果沒有配合的話他們這一整年的權益就會損失所以希望農業部跟園民會能夠把這個空窗期去研議一下他是要針對今年做一個例外展演還是怎麼做我希望這個部分就是做一個提醒 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案。 |
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他因為年紀沒有趕上國民年金的上路所以他現在變成被排除的一群老人家處境牽連那我覺得政府對於不能夠改善他們的問題我也覺得過不去啦吼那我特別看到農業部這個地方其實有講到辦理農保的目的是為了要照顧長期從事農業工作的農民在發生事故的時候他的經濟生活可以保障可是另外也特別提到說 |
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條文修正草案案 並不鼓勵長期從事其他職業領有社會保險其他的老年給付的。」那因為就把他認為說他已經有晚年生活的基本保障所以他不得參加農保可是我有講到 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
三條之一、第三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
13296.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
13319.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
條文修正草案案案件事宜（三（三月一日的院會質詢（三（三月一日的院會質詢（三（三月一日的院會質詢（三（三月一日的院會質詢（ |
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| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案案 。 |
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13355.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
13375.03 |
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但是能夠有房舍卻不能夠有這種露營帳篷其實這是蠻奇怪的而且土石流潛勢去把它劃設他只是希望我們能夠去做一個防減災的工作所以我希望說這個法源依據他的理由我還是希望能夠到我的辦公室來做說明好不好 |
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條文修正草案案 案件。 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
13403.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
13408.202 |
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謝謝吳立華委員。接下來我們請洪孟凱,洪孟凱,洪孟凱委員不在,我們請洪勝翰委員發言。請陳部長。 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
13457.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
兩位好部長我想你應該知道地面型的光電是其實在近期在中南部其實引起了很多這個環境生態相關的討論是那我們在很多報導裡面其實看到好像變成業者社區NGO其實常常處在一種衝突的關係是局面下 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
13479.456 |
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但其實我們仔細去看國外的一些做法會發現其實國外好像已經有很多成功的案例透過一些我覺得很具巧思的設計跟配套讓光電在自然生態跟農業生產其實蠻多融合雙贏的例子比方說你看一下在左邊這個英國的案例裡面你可以看到 |
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| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
13495.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
13510.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
13518.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
條文修正草案案 讓這透過設計讓衝突能夠走向共榮甚至是多贏。部長你覺得值不值得推廣? |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
13520.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
13545.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
我個人認為光電結合農業就是以農為本光電加持這個概念那最重要的一點就是在臺灣現在當然沒有錯很多地景會都很好那不過我以實務上來看我先問你說如果能夠做得到我先說如果能夠真正的做到像歐洲那樣子的話我覺得是絕對可以往前去思考你覺得同不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
13545.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
13559.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
13561.135 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
13561.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
三（三（三（三（三（三（三（ |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
13584.076 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
13596.384 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
那這個光電業者是委託人提撥了一筆所謂生態補償金那銀行是作為受託人那銀行在把這筆錢給生態跟環境專業的NGO |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
13599.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
13617.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第四十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條文修正草案．一、三十六條條條 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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13644.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
13658.613 |
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不過我想信託是一個方法之一但是我要回到本質就是說當我這個光電進到這個場域的時候是不是能夠維持那邊的勝那才是重點而不是用信託我今天跟你討論這件事情最重要的事情是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
13680.501 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
其實有很多民間的團體包括環保團體在做各項的嘗試但是他們現在他們希望能夠用公益信託的方式我們公益信託其實是要跟主管機關來做申請但我們其實目前生態保育的主管機關我們沒有訂公益信託的執法所以呢 |
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13702.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
這個現在反而是這些思考能夠怎麼讓事情能夠更雙贏的NGO的組織他必須要用所謂的他意信託的方式這個他意信託他最高反而要繳20%的稅額部長你覺得在你心中公益信託的理念假如他真的有公共利益的話 |
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13703.561 |
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13724.526 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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13726.627 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
13730.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
他不是針對生態保育部分的。我同意他應該要符合所謂的公義但是我們連執法都沒有我們連要去判斷他符合公義都沒有辦法了解 |
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| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
13762.121 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．一．一．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二．二� |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
13777.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
13779.253 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
13794.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
13816.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
條文修正草案案 案件,不僅與你剛才的觀念是兩件事,不一定是結在一起,因為它有很多很多種生態的保育是由保育團體來做的。我認為剛剛我講的案例有機會成為公益系統裡面好的案例,但這件事情當然不是唯一的,可是大家可以專業來做判斷,可是當你們執法都沒有的時候,連判斷的依據,連判斷的操作執行都沒有。 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
13842.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
兩個月內把我們公益信託的執法給訂出來來參考其他部會至少把執法訂出來有沒有問題?我想我可以承諾就是把執法的草案我們先跟公益團體討論以後一個基本的草案不是把因為訂出來本身要有非常多的程序是我們把整個的規劃的草案先兩個月我們找相關的團體包括業者等等等我們討論包括也許銀行 |
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13843.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
13846.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
條文修正草案案案項提出來,然後找相關的團隊大家一起討論,我覺得這是一個重要的基礎。」 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
13874.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
13897.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
條文修正草案條例第十九條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
13902.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
13921.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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13925.433 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
13942.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
台灣黑熊、川山甲、台灣水路、山羌這些例子都還是有在發生那這件事情已經討論很多年了我還是想要再次請教我們農業部有沒有機會再把這個山豬釣放進來如果沒有辦法配套措施是什麼 |
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你跟委員說明就是我們現在目前把這個售假的部分先做全面的禁止那至於刪除掉的部分我在一開始報告也說明了就是說因為目前靠近山區的農民還有一些原住民部落他還有必須使用的空間但是同一時間我們也更積極的推廣改良市的這些列據那我們希望說讓改良市的列據更積極的推動 |
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那因為19條有授權我們可以公告其他的這個禁止使用的這些列據所以我們預計齁如果說我們順利的把這些改良式的列據推廣以後我們在一年之內就可以把這個刪除掉的部分去做一個禁止好謝謝部長的說明意思就是說我們在一年內會把這個過渡期完成讓 |
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可以全面的汰壞成改良式的列具。好,那這個承諾必須要去執行希望今年底之前我們在一年內就讓它可以完全的汰換掉而不是繼續的無限的繼續讓有這個空間使用那變成說山豬釣其實一直都還是存在 |
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條文修正草案．立法院第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
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條文修正草案．第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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因為當這個等你們公告出來之後刪除掉就是非法的我希望讓大家有一個明確的認知然後也有這個充分的溝通那最後還是要問一下說因為這個其實在你們這個19條裡面有講到說其他金主管機關公告的禁止的方法是可以有一個空白的授權 |
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| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
14131.698 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
14132.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
14152.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
14153.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
條文修正草案 案 案 案 案 案 案 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
14167.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
14168.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
條文修正草案案 案 。 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
14185.832 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
14214.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
那討論事項所列遠洋漁業條例及野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案合併詢答結束現在進行廣泛討論。廣泛討論沒有人發言登記接著我們進行逐條討論請議事人員宣讀所有條文若有修正動議及附帶決議請一併宣讀宣讀完畢之後再進行協商請宣讀那宣讀的期間我們那個同仁可以自己先行用午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
14215.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
14225.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
請宣讀。宣讀海洋漁業條例行政院提案第十四條之一涉及非法未報告或不受規範於撈住業之漁獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
14228.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
14250.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
於貨物或漁產品不得進口,前向於貨物或漁產品之品項載運或捕撈資訊由主管機關公告之因國際條約協定聯合國決議或國際合作需要或未打擊非法未報告或不受規範漁撈作業之目的,主管機關得公告特定國家地區之全部或部分漁獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
14251.218 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
14266.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
物或漁產品不得進口不得進口之原因消失時主管機關應急公告解除其限制。第36條之一有下列情形之一者處限臺幣六百萬元以上三千萬元以下罰還。依違反第十四條之一第一項規定 |
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14294.187 |
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進口涉及非法未報告或不受規範於撈作業之漁貨物或漁產品。二）違反第十四條之一、第三項鎖定主管機關公告至特定國家或地區進口漁貨物或漁產品。最近一年內違反前項規定第二次以上者處新台幣九百萬元以上、四千五百萬元以下罰款並得按次處罰。第四十七條本條例自公布後六個月施行本條例修正條文自公布日施行。 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
14324.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
委員邱鎮軍等18人提案第三條本條例是主管機關為農業部第十四條之一除第三項第一行協定因國際條約協定聯合國協定聯合國之間沒有動畫其與同行政院提案之內容第39條之一同行政院提案第36條之一條文內容第47條同行政院提案委員楊瓊瓔等人提案第14條同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
14324.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
14336.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
第三十八條之一、第一項同行政院提案第三十六條之一條文內容第二項最近一年內違反前項規定第二次以上者處新台幣八百萬元以上四千萬元以下罰還並得按次處罰 |
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| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
宣讀野生動物保育法行政院提案第二條本法所稱主管機關在中央為農業部在直轄市為直轄市政府在縣市為縣市政府但海域野生動物保育之中央主管機關為海洋委員會第十九條列補野生動物不得 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
14388.665 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
以下列方式為之一使用炸藥或其他爆裂物二使用毒物三使用電器麻醉物或麻痹之方法四架設網具五使用獵槍以外之其他種類槍械六使用陷阱或特殊獵捕工具七使用獸匣八其他經主管機關公告禁止之方法使用前項各款鎖定方法獵捕野生動物者主管機關得盡以排除或拆除 |
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| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
並銷毀之土地所有人、使用人或管理人不得規避、拒絕或妨礙、第二十一條野生動物有下類情形之一者得與獵捕或宰殺不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項、第一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
14431.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
至第六款規定之限制但保育類野生動物除情況緊急外應先報請主管機關處理一、有危及公共安全或人類性命之餘二、危害農林作物家禽家畜或水產養殖三、傳播疾病或病蟲害四、有妨礙航空安全之餘五、其他經主管機關核准之情形保育類野生動物有防 |
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14431.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
14447.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
有危害農林作物家禽家畜或水產養殖在緊急情況下未及報請主管機關處理者得以主管機關和定之人道方式予以獵捕或宰殺以防制危險。第21條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
14449.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
14468.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
台灣原住民族與其傳統文化既宜或非營利致用而有獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物之必要者不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項、第一款至第六款規定之限制,前項獵捕、宰殺或野生動物之必要者不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項、第一款至第六款規定之限制,前項獵捕、宰殺或野生動物之必要者不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項至第六款規定之限制,前項獵捕、宰殺或野生動物之必要者不受第十七 |
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| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
或利用野生動物之行為應經主管機關核准或被查其申請核准或被查之情形得獵捕、宰殺或利用保育類野生動物必要情形申請程序應檢附文件獵捕方式獵捕動物之種類數量獵捕期間區域管理及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同中央原住民族主管機關定之。 |
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14512.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
第三十七條保育類野生動物於飼養或繁殖中應妥為管理不得易失如有易失時所有人或戰友人應通報當地直轄市縣市主管機關及自行積極為補並得報請該直轄市縣市主管機關協助為補協助為補所需相關費用由所有人或戰友人負擔 |
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| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
14537.929 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
議事之保育類野生動物直轄市縣市主管機關必要時得主動維補,其維補收容及佔養所需相關費用得由所有人或戰友人負擔。第五十條之一,保育類野生動物之所有人或戰友人違反第37條第一項規定與保育類野生動物議事時會通報當地直轄市縣市主管機關或為積極維補者處心臺幣三萬元以上、十五萬元以下罰還。 |
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14569.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
第五十一條有下列情形之一者處心臺幣一萬元以上五萬元以下罰還一違反第十二條第一項規定無正當理由規避拒絕或妨礙野生動物資源調查或保育計劃實施二違反第二十條第一項規定未經登記進入第十七條劃定區列補一般類野生動物或主管器官劃定之垂釣區或離開時未報名獲取野生動物之種類數量 |
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| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
三）違反第24條第一項規定為經中央主管機關之同意輸入或輸出一般類野生動物之活體。四）違反第28條規定為於輸入輸出保育類野生動物或其產製品之日期一年內向中央主管機關提出相關報告或提出之報告內容不實。五）違反第31條第一項規定於中央主管機關指定公告前飼養繁殖保育類 |
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| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
14625.356 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
或有害生態環境人畜安全之餘之原非我國原生種野生動物或持有保育類野生動物產製品其所有人或戰友人為一線報請當地直轄市縣市主管機關登記備查或登記備查之內容不實又違反第31條第二項規定於中央主管機關指定公告後輸入轉讓取得保育類或有害生態環境人畜安全之餘之原非我國原生種野生動物 |
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或保育類野生動物產製品,其所有人或戰友人為依現象直轄市縣市主管機關登記備查或登記備查之內容不實。七（違反第31條第三項規定,未經主管機關同意繁殖保育類或有害生態環境人畜安全之餘之原非我國原生種野生動物。八（違反第31條第六項規定,無正當理由規避拒絕或妨礙主管機關或其委託之機關團體實施註記或查核。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
九、違反第35條第一項規定被意圖販賣而未經主管機關之同意在公共場所陳列或展示保育類野生動物或其產製品。十、違反第38條規定於濱林絕種或珍貴稀有野生動物死亡時,所有人或在有人未依現將死亡解剖書或死亡證明書送交直轄市縣市主管機關備查。 |
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十一所有人或戰友人拒絕依第39條規定出售野生動物之屍體。第51條之一,原住民族基於其傳統文化、記憶或非營利自用、獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物違反依第21條之一、第二項鎖定辦法中有關申請核准或被查之情形,得獵捕、宰殺或利用保育類野生動物之必要情形、獵捕方式獵捕動物之種類數量、獵捕其間區域或管理之規定者, |
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| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
一下列規定處罰一屬保育類野生動物處新台幣二萬元以上十萬元以下罰還二屬一般類野生動物處新台幣一千元以上一萬元以下罰還 |
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14723.629 |
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14752.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
第五十二條辦第四十條、第四十一條、第四十二條或第四十三條第三項之罪查獲之保育類野生動物與其產製品及供犯罪所用之劣具、藥品、器具、工作物施工材料及所使用之機具不問屬於犯罪行為人與否得沒收之違反本法之規定除嫌像規定者外查獲之野生動物與其產製品及供違規所用之劣具 |
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| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
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藥品、器具、工作物、施工材料及所使用之機具不會屬於何人所有,得目錄之。請向經目錄之務必要使主管機關得公開放生、遣返、典藏或銷毀之。其所需費用得向違規之行為人收取。海關或其他查緝機關對於依法目錄或處理之保育類野生動物及其產製品,得委由主管機關依前項規定處理。 |
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14780.219 |
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委員鄭天才等提案、第二條同行政院提案條文、第十九條同行政院提案條文、第二十一條同行政院提案條文、第二十一條之一第一項同行政院提案條文、第二項前項列補宰殺或利用野生動物之行為應經主管機關備查,其得列補宰殺或利用保育類野生動物之必要情形、申請程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
14803.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
14825.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
應檢附文件、列補方式、列補動物之種類數量、列補其間區域管理及其他應專行事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同中央原住民族主管機關定之。第37條同行政院提案條文,第50條之一同行政院提案條文,第51條同行政院提案條文,第51條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
14826.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
14854.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
原住民族基於其傳統文化、技藝或非營利資用、獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物違反依第21條之一、第二項鎖定辦法中有關申請被查之情形、得獵捕、宰殺或利用保育類野生動物之必要情形、獵捕方式、獵捕動物之種類數量、獵捕期間、區域或管理之規定者處新台幣一千元以上、一萬元以下罰還,但首次違反者不罰。第52條同行政院提案條文。 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
14856.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
14879.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
委員賴瑞榮等提案。第十九條第一項第一款至第六款同行政院提案條文。第七款使用壽夾、金屬製、金屬套索等易造成目標以外野生動物永久傷殘死亡之工具。第八款同行政院提案條文。第二項使用或設置前項各款之物品、網具、陷阱、壽夾或其他列具者 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
14879.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
14905.189 |
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主管機關得禁與排除或拆除並銷毀之土地所有人、使用人或管理人不得規避、拒絕或妨礙。」第21條同行政院提案條文。第21條之一、第一項同行政院提案條文。第二項,前項列補宰殺或利用野生動物之行為應經主管機關核准或被查,其申請或被查之應檢附文件程序及其列補方式、傳統列據、列補動物之種類數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
14907.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
14916.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
列補期間區域及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同中央援助民族主管機關定之。第51條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
14917.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
14943.355 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
原住民族違反第21條之一、第二項規定列補宰殺或利用野生動物違反一、第二十一條之一、第二項鎖定辦法中有關申請核准或被查之應檢附文件程序及其列補方式傳統列具列補動物之種類數量列補其間區域及其他應遵行事項之規定者依下列規定處罰第一款及第二款同行政院提案條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
14943.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
14966.813 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
第五十二條犯第四十條、第四十一條、第四十二條或第四十三條第三項之罪查獲之保育類野生動物與其產製品及供犯罪所用之劣具、藥品、器具、工作物、施工材料及所使用之器械工具不問屬於何人所有,得沒收之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
14967.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
14993.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
違反本法之規定除前項規定者外查獲之保育類野生動物與其產製品及公違規所用之列具藥品器具工作物施工材料及所使用之器械工具不問屬於何人所有得目錄之第三項同行政院提案條文第四項海關或其他查緝單位對於依法目錄或處理之保育類野生動物及其產製品得委由主管機關依前項規定處理。 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
14996.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
15018.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
委員黃婕等提案。第十九條同行政院提案條文。第21條同行政院提案條文。第21條之一同行政院提案條文。第37條同行政院提案條文。第50條之一同行政院提案條文。第51條同行政院提案條文。第51條之一同行政院提案條文。第52條同行政院提案條文。 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
15019.175 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
15043.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
委員吳立華等提案、第二條同行政院提案條文、第十九條第一項第一款至第五款同行政院提案條文、第六款使用陷阱售夾或特殊獵捕工具、第七款其他經營主管機關公告禁止之方法、第二項同行政院提案條文、第二十一條野生動物有下列情形之一者 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
15044.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
15055.777 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
條的予以列補或宰殺,不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項各款規定之限制,其文字同行政院提案條文。」 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
15057.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
15076.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
第21條之一,臺灣原住民族基於其傳統文化既已或非營利自用而有獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物之必要者,不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項、第十九條第一項各款規定之限制,前項獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物之行為,應經主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
15077.666 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
15091.593 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
合准或備查、其申請或備查之情形、得獵捕宰殺或利用保育類野生動物之必要情形、程序、因檢附文件、獵捕方式、原住民族傳統獵具含售甲、獵捕動物之種類數量、 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
15093.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
15107.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
列補期間區域管理及其他應遵行事向之辦法由中主管機關會同中央原住民族主管機關定之。第37條保育類野生動物於飼養或繁殖中應妥為管理。 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
15108.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
15129.178 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
不得易施,如有易施時,所有人或戰友人應通報當地直轄市縣市主管機關及自行積極為補,並得報請該直轄市機關協助為補。協助為補所需相關費用由所有人或戰友人負擔,易施之保育類野生動物直轄市縣市主管機關必要時得主動為補。 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
15130.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
15159.188 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
其微補收容及佔養所需相關費用應由所有人或佔有人負擔。」第五十條之一同行政院提案條文。第五十一條第一項第一款至第八款同行政院提案條文。第九款違反第三十五條第一項規定非意圖販賣而未經主管機關之同意在公共場所陳列或展示保育類野生動物瀕臨絕種或珍貴稀有野生動物產製品者。第十款同行政院提案條文。 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
15159.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
15186.382 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
第十一款,所有人或戰友人拒絕依第39條規定出售野生動物之屍體者。第51條之一,原住民族基於其傳統文化、記憶或非營利自用、獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物,有違反第21條之一第二項鎖定辦法中有關申請核准或被查之情形,得獵捕、宰殺或利用保育類野生動物之必要情形、獵捕方式、獵捕動物之種類數量、獵捕其間區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
15188.303 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
15216.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
或管理之規定者處新臺幣一千元以上以萬元以下罰還但首次違反者不罰。第五十二條第一項同行政院提案條文第二項違反本法之規定除前項規定者外查獲之保育類野生動物與其產製品及公違規所用之列具藥品器具工作物施工材料及所使用之機具不問屬於何人所有得目錄之第三項及第四項同行政院提案條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
15218.362 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
15247.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
委員郭玉琴等提案。第四條野生動物區分為下列二類一、保育類指瀕臨絕種珍貴稀有及其他應與保育之野生動物二、一般類指保育類以外之野生動物前向第一款保育類野生動物由野生動物保育諮詢委員會評估分類由中央主管機關指定公告製作名錄並每年更新一次。第十九條第一項第一款至第六款同行政院提案條文第七款 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
15248.258 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
15270 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
使用瘦甲金屬製吊索等抑制目標以外動物死亡受傷之無差別式列具。第八款同行政院提案條文第二項使用或設置前項各款鎖定方法列補野生動物者主管機關得禁與排除或拆除並銷毀之徒弟所有人使用人或管理人不得規避拒絕或妨礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
15271.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
15287.744 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
第21條第一項野生動物有下列情形之一得予以獵捕宰殺不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項第三款至第六款規定之限制後段文字至第四款同行政院提案條文第五款 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
15288.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
15311.219 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
其他經主管機關核准者。第二項同行政院提案條文。第21條之一,臺灣原住民族基於其傳統文化既已或非營利之用而有獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物之必要者,不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項、第三款至第六款規定之限制。第二項同行政院提案條文。 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
15312.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
15339.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
第51條之一同行政院提案條文第52條同行政院提案條文委員呂玉玲等提案第十九條第一項第一款至第六款同行政院提案條文第七款設置金屬材質之套索陷阱第八款同行政院提案條文第二項未經許可擅自設置網具陷阱售夾金屬材質之套索陷阱或其他列據主管機關得禁與拆除或銷並銷毀之 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
15342.216 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
15368.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
土地所有人、使用人或管理人不得規避、拒絕或妨礙。第21條野生動物有下滅情形之一得予以獵捕或宰殺不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項第三款至第五款規定之限制後段文字至第四款同行政院提案條文第五款刪除第六款其他經主管機關合準者第二項同行政院提案條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
15369.298 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
15388.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
第21條之一,臺灣原住民族基於其傳統文化記憶而有獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物之必要者,不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項、第三款至第五款規定之限制,前項獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物之行為應經主管機關核准。 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
15388.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
15399.536 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
其申請程序、列補方式、列補動物種類數量、列補期間區域及其他應遵行事項之辦法由中央主管機關會同中央援助民族主管機關定之。 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
15401.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
15420.837 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
委員張雅玲等提案、第二條同行政院提案條文、第十九條同行政院提案條文、第二十一條同行政院提案條文、第二十一條之一同行政院提案條文、第三十一條於中央主管機關指定公告前饲養或繁殖保育類及有害生態環境人處安全之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
15421.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
15449.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
支援非我國原生種野生動物或持有中央主管機關指定公告之保育類野生動物產製品其所有人或戰友人應填具資料卡與規定其縣內報請當地直轄市縣市主管機關登記備查或審查並跟時一同與中央主管機關指定公告後應核准輸入、轉讓或其他合法方式取得前項所列之野生動物或產製品者所有人或戰友人應於規定其縣內 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
15449.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
15474.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
此證明文件向直轄市縣市主管機關登記、備查或審查並更實一統一前二項之規定辦理者,使得繼續飼養或持有,非基於教育或學術研究目的,並經主管機關同意不得再行繁殖。裝主管機關針對第一項、第二項登記、備查或審查之野生動物及其製品,應公告相關程序、種類及其他應遵行事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
15475.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
15497.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
因遵行辦理事項,依第一項、第二項之規定辦理者,使得繼續飼養或持有,非基於教育或學術研究目的,並經主管機關同意不得再行繁殖。本法修正公佈施行前,以飼養或繁殖之第一項所列之野生動物,主管機關因於本法修正公佈施行之日起,三年內輔導業者停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
15498.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
15509.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
條文修正草案案 並得視情況予以收購,前向收購之野生動物主管機關應為投擅之安置及管理,並得分送國內外教育學術機構及動物園 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
15510.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
15531.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
或委託主管機關評鑑合格之管理單位代為收容戰養,主管機關認為必要時得自行或委託有關機關團體對第一項、第二項所列之野生動物或產製品實施註記,並得定期或不定期查核,所有人或戰友人不得規避、拒絕或妨礙,前項需註記之野生動物及其 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
15531.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
15555.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
及產製品質種類由中主管機關公告之。第37條保育類野生動物於飼養或繁殖病齡絕種及珍貴稀有野生動物中,依本法第31條規定辦理登記審查,應妥為管理,不得易失。如有易失時,所有人或戰友人應通報當地直轄市縣市主管機關及自行邀集專業人士協助為補,並得報請該直轄市縣市主管機關協助為補,協助為補所需相關費用, |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
15561.064 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
15589.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
由所有人或佔有人負擔,中央主管機關應公告為補執行流程,供直轄市縣市主管機關遵行,亦施之保育類野生動物。直轄市縣市主管機關必要時得主動為補,其為補收容及佔養所需相關費用,得由所有人或佔有人負擔。第五十條之一同行政院提案條文第五十一條同行政院提案條文第五十一條之一同行政院提案條文第五十二條同行政院提案條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
15596.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
15612.647 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
委員張祺凱等所提修正動議,第51條之一,第一項同行政院提案條文,第二項首次違反前項行為者不罰,第三項因過失犯第一項第一款之行為者處心臺幣五千元以上,二萬元以下罰還。 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
15615.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
15640.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
委員楊瓊瓔等所提修正動議第十九條第一項第六款使用陷阱售夾或特殊列補工具第七款設置金屬材質之套索陷阱其餘條文同行政院提案條文第五十一條有下列情形之一者處新台幣二萬元以上十萬元以下罰還其餘條文同行政院提案條文 |
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15643.971 |
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15660.86 |
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委員林大化等人所提修正動議第十九條第一項、第七款使用原住民族傳統列據、第八款使用壽甲、第九款其他經主管機關公告禁止之方法其餘條文同行政院提案條文。第21條同行政院提案條文。 |
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第21條之一、第一項,臺灣原住民族基於其傳統文化、技藝或非營利資用而有獵捕、宰殺或利用野生動物之必要者,不受第十七條第一項、第十八條第一項及第十九條第一項、第一款制、第七款規定之限制,第二項同行政院提案條文。 |
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新增第三項因第一項情形而使用授甲於本法中華民國全年全月修正後二年內項中央主管機關自動報假免受其處罰,其期間必要時得延長一次,不得超過一年,中央主管機關應輔導其取得所需之改良式列具。 |
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15722.342 |
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委員蔡宇等人所提附帶決議,野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案第21條之一,定名原住民族獵捕宰殺或利用野生動物之行為應經主委機關核准或被查,違者將依同法第51條之一, |
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15726.084 |
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15742.451 |
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條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查之相關資料具建立資料庫並定期進行研究分析探究原住民各族群傳統文化生活區域獵捕行為獵捕種類與數量違法受罰探樣 |
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與各類野生動物棲息保育之關係,藉此滾動式檢討原住民族狩獵自主管理政策,以達成堅固原住民族傳統狩獵文化與野生動物保育之目標。」宣讀完畢。好,我們現在開始進行協商。我們先處理討論事項第一案,遠洋漁業條例。來,請各位委員。 |
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那遠洋漁業條例現在有邱鎮軍委員提案的是第三條本條例主管機關為農業部我們是不是就照案通過好不好照那個邱委員的提案好謝謝那請大家看接下來我們請看第十四條十四條之一對不起十四條之一 |
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對,行政院版跟邱鎮軍委員還有楊瓊瓔委員的版本都相同,那我們是不是就照行政院版來通過。同意。條文的部分我沒有意見,但我只是提醒那個農業部的,在這個未來條文通過實行的時候要提早跟漁業界相關做更多的溝通跟輔導好不好。 |
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條例部分條文修正草案案 。 |
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15846.247 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條條 |
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15858.636 |
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15860.737 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 |
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兩邊的大螢幕紅色的那個是不是我再念一次我國漁傳說捕撈之漁獲物為國產漁獲非本條所規範之對象那這條最主要是讓我們國內的漁民不要擔心這樣更清楚了 |
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條條文修正草案案。」案。接下來我們請看行政院版第36條之一、邱鎮軍委員版第39條之一跟楊瓊瓔委員版第38條之一的修正條文。大概就是對於罰還的部分的罰金有不同。楊委員的是800到 |
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15938.234 |
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15943.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
條文修正草案案案件的條文修正草案案件的條文修正草案案件的條文 |
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條文修正草案案案件及第十六條條文修正草案案件及第十七條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十五條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十七條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條文修正草案案件及第十八 |
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第二項有關於罰還額度的部分跟各位委員報告是說第二次違反的時候依照我們法制的體力是原先第一項的罰還額度的1.5倍這是慣例第二個我們有關於進口跟出口 |
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條的違反的額度目前再次違反的部分出口的部分是在25條的違反25條第三項罰則是在38條第一項第一款我們的額度都是一樣是900到4500萬所以建議各位委員是不是維持行政院版好那個楊委員您同意嗎那你那個條子要怎麼調來 |
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是行政院版的條字在三十七條的前面也就是現在我們排的三十六條之一。但是你後面的那個部分呢?後面的第二次違規嗎?第二次違規就是行政院版的九百到四千五 |
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條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條 |
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16077.104 |
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16077.824 |
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條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
16092.54 |
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第二條同意,因為我們當初版本送到立法院的時候,那時候還沒有改組。也包法的第二條,各委員的版本都一致。每個委員的版本都是把它改為農業部號,那我們是不是就照行政院版修正通過,好嗎?好,謝謝各位委員。接下來我們請看第十九條。 |
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條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
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16169.853 |
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九條我們是在第八款其他經主管機關公告禁止之方式我們後續會依這一款來針對現行市售的那個山豬釣的口徑來說小然後它的限定也規定要加粗那用這個方式來減少所謂現行山豬釣對這個野生動物的過度的這個傷害但是呢也可以讓 |
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三區的農民跟原住民在進行受力的時候他還是有工具可以使用避免未來這些需求都存在的情況下所有的使用通通都走向地下化反而不利管理所以我們希望說請委員能夠支持我們行政院版本鄭天才委員之後楊瓊瓔委員請農業部說明一下 |
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這個線型條文第十九條的第六款線型條文本來就有售假你現在單獨把它拉出來這個成為第七款 |
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16221.053 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
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條文修正草案條例第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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條條文修正草案案案件及特殊列補工具在原住民是可以用的,但是我如果不把他拉出來,他就很難處理。因為這條條文會跟後面的條文有關係,尤其是針對第八款的部分, |
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及第八條條文修正草案案。」案。因為剛才這個農業部包括林業署的說明針對第八條 |
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16292.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 |
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16317.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
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條文修正草案案案件 委員我們要先說明一下,授甲的部分應該所有委員應該都是同意授甲然後21條21條之一我們都是處理的那現在可能焦點是在於金屬套索等意造成目標以外野生動物永久傷殘的這個這一段的那有些委員的版本是特地都拉出來但是拉出來之後他寫在後面的條文 |
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16376.478 |
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很多的委員都是全面禁止的所以委員可能要先討論是金屬套索等這種金屬套索是要全面禁止還是要部分禁止我知道我先說明 |
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| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
我強調一下現行的條文的第二十一條現行的條文第二十一條對原住民主的部分第十九條第一項各款規定不受第十九條第一項各款規定包括主管機關公告那個部分對不對那現在因為你的這個第十九條 |
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及第八條之一、第三十六條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條 |
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16443.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
條文修正草案案 。 |
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是一個是要去在在省走的地方啦。我想跟委員說明一下齁就是第一辦法本身齁就是其他經中央主管機關公告的一個方法那委員擔心說這個這個授權的範圍過更大嘛那因為我們考量到其他的版本其實大家最在意的就是刪除掉的部分的一個全面禁止那我們也說明了刪除掉在現行是有他必要必須要使用的一個方法所以我們也說過這個用決議的方式看可不可以用決議的方式處理 |
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條文修正草案案件事項及三）本院委員會及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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第十九條及第21條之一都保留。 |
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條文修正草案案 案件中﹖一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
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條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八 |
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條文修正草案案。 |
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條文修正草案案的部分大家都認為其實它可以應該要有緩衝期剛剛你們也講到一年一年的時間嘛除了去加強推廣以外也把這個慢慢的退場所以這個部分是不是能夠把它放在立法說明裡頭讓大家更清楚的知道也會避免掉那個政委員他們認為完全空白授權給農業部然後 |
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三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具、「遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
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條文修正草案案 案 。此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外,此外, |
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16686.353 |
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條文修正草案案 第1至第6條條文修正草案案 第1至第6條條文修正草案案 第1至第6條條文修正草案案 |
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16702.754 |
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| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
包括山珠釣的部分所以這個部分我建議主席我建議這個就先保留宋協商了沒關係那個我先讓洪孟楷委員 |
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16713.43 |
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16734.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
我只是一個地方在確認因為剛剛部長講的是說一年後你是要全面公告會禁止山豬釣還是會改成比較縮小因為這兩者還是不同看你們的這個立法說明的就是給委員的這個回覆其實你們是講是說是會改良式喔那還是一樣會使用金屬釣索對不對 |
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16757.763 |
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三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具:「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案．一、二、三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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16787.189 |
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但你這樣還是沒有排除金屬套索嗎?那這樣其實是跟某些委員的版本是不符合的喔。山豬釣所謂現在大家詬病的所謂的危害是因為他的陷阱過細。對我知道,這個我都了解啊。故事造成是說有些這個野生根本他可能會到時候被截肢嘛。比如說他把他換成像釣魚線那樣子,他不是金屬。 |
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16790.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
條文修正草案案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條文修正草案案件及其中一條條 |
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16807.948 |
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| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
主席我是建議說因為這個大家在取得一個啦,養殖動物的永久性的傷害跟原民的權益間取得一個平衡點啦,那我是建議這個細節的部分是不是要詳細再做更清楚的溝通之後,那可以先保留,後面蔡徐翔再來做處理。那我們先19條先保留一下,然後等一下再回來。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
16826.627 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
條文修正草案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
16853.815 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
16875.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
條的部分其實各委員的版本在於所謂的第一項的那個序文有關於19條到底哪幾款是要可以做例外的排除可以適用那目前來講我們行政院版的部分一到六款是一到六款的部分就是也就是說19條的第一項的第七款第八款是不可以用的那 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
16876.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
16902.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
那現在其他委員的版本有的是三到六三到五差別只在這邊所以現在的可能討論的部分我們還是建議是說是不是說排除的部分我們是不是第一款第一款還是不同的部分我覺得第一款是不是把它排除啦因為那個炸藥基本上你現在也買不到你也沒辦法使用嘛所以這樣的話我們可能就會變成是第二款至第六款如果第一條 |
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| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
二十一條的虛文排除的那個是從第二款到第六款沒有意見不過這個會不會因為這個第十九條因為我們剛剛是保留所以是不是這個文字的部分是要配合十九條最後的結論後再做這個文字的調整對因為這個跟第十九條有關係所以這個部分也是先保留了 |
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條之一及第四十九條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
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第十九條第一項各款,所以你現在這邊改了,會跟前面的第十九條未來是怎麼改,所以會有連動,所以我是建議這個也是保留。所以這跟第十九條有關係的。 十九條各款的問題會影響到這邊的各款,還包括二十一條也一樣,二十一條之一也一樣。 |
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16986.994 |
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16998.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
條文修正草案案 案件 及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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17026.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
條文修正草案條例第十九條之一及第八條條文修正草案條例第十九條之一及第八條條文修正草案條例第十九條之一及第八條條例第十九條條例第十九條條例第十九條條例第十九條條例第十九條條例第十九條條例第十九條條例 |
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| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
所以他沒有到動到第八款如果說21條可以先走那主要是第八款那個山豬釣的退場時機跟能不能退場要不要退場及何時退場那個大家現在有意見我們先暫時保留所以假如21條大家沒意見的話我們是不是可以21條先走同意啦因為第21條的線型條文 |
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條之一及第四十九條之一及第四十九條之一及第四十九條之一及第四十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一及第十九條之一 |
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這個行政院版的第十九條,因為有變動,第六款的變動就是說到底這一個授甲要放在第七款獨立的第七款,或者是原本是放在第六款的 |
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17111.463 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
17131.082 |
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在每一個委員的修正版本基本上也都沒有在其他的版本的對跟委員建議就是說我們現在看的時候19條也是要看行政院新體的版本跟21條這樣對的時候就沒有沒有一些差異性就一二到六二到六是大家有共識的所以我們現在看的我們現在因為在討論修正版所以我們現在看的不是看現行法我們現在要看新的提案版本 |
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我們用從新的修法的提案版本來對照來比較。」我來說我補充說明就第19條第19條各委員的版本也不太一樣第19條各委員的版本也不一樣所以既然還沒有確定如果最後還是維持到 |
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現行條文的第十九條的款各款一到七這樣的款如果還維持第十九條如果是維持這樣那你第二十一條是不是就會受到影響有影響啊就我們就以售假來講有緣有緣的版本還是放在第六款呢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
條文修正草案．立法院第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及 |
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17233.305 |
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17257.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
第十九條的第六款跟現行條文的第六款一樣嗎?跟政委員報告一下其他委員的版本基本上我們大致上都已經有先溝通過先有共識了所以他們不堅持他們就是尊重行政院的版本那現在您要講的那個部分是第八款的部分所以您是希望能夠保留這個山豬調 |
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| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
17276.669 |
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是不是包括它的落日年限、落日的期程?好,那這個跟其他的是比較沒有關係的。如果說第21條我們的第二款到第六款這個部分大家可以先同意的話。來,山翰。那個我想要請教一下齁,因為 |
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17284.252 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
17302.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
第十九條條文修正草案案。因為當然現在一些版本裡面有把這個壽甲或者是放但是要放在第七款或第六款的差異但是我們在看他這個法第41條這次我沒有修的範圍那我念一下41條的內容好不好 |
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17333.877 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
因為有點連動到罰則啦齁簡單來說第41條就是下列情形之一處六個月以上五年以下的有期徒刑那在第三項部分有一個部分寫到說第一項之未遂犯罰之簡單來說如果從這個條文來看我覺得有些條文的處理上面這個罰則上面來看變成說如果家中 |
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| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
17338.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
17357.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
17358.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
條文修正草案案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
17381.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
17384.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
條例部分條文修正草案案 案件中﹖一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
17410.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
委員因為現在我們把原住民的部分的條次通通拉到21條之一所以呢原住民的這個條文19條的部分原住民的部分都會專注都是寫在21條之一所以如果原住民有這樣的問題是用違反21條之一的罰則 |
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| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
17417.058 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
這件事情目前就我知道有引起一些疑慮啦這個他們剛剛的說明是非常清楚嘛你必須使用才會構成刑責嘛因為過去的人過去不管是原住民或是過去有一些人會使用獸匣但現在禁止使用了但他不見得會把那個獸匣丟掉他有可能還是擺在家裡但是他沒有使用的話你就不會有所謂的未遂這件事情而且我要保育類野生動物 |
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| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
條文修正草案案 條例第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
17502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
條文在這,條文在這,未遂犯法則。」主席還有各位委員大家好,那我們那個刑法上的所謂的未遂就是必須要著手於犯罪行為但是未遂,那他的過程要見很清楚的就是說他必須要這個使用這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
17529.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
禁止方法獵捕宰殺保育類野生動物,所以他必須要一個著手的動作,那如果你單純只是把它擺在家裡面的話,你沒有著手,那沒有著手的話就沒有未遂犯的問題。以上補充報告。這樣清楚齁。好,來,請問,好來,請問各位委員,那第21條,你們還是要保留嗎?因為跟第19條會有關係啦。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
因為第十九條竟然保留,所以建議二十一條也是要保留。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
17548.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
17569.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
17570.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
條文修正草案案案案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
17595.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
17603.109 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
17612.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
17614.296 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
17635.383 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
17640.046 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
條文修正草案案案件 及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
17661.658 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
17663.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
17679.585 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
17703.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
所以我們才會說希望21條之一是我們這次的重點目標我們希望這個條文能夠儘速通過能夠也達到放寬原住民他對於獵捕野生動物被查的一個目標啦但是如果現在不通過我們現在執法規目前授權就只有核准我怎麼去放寬成被查 |
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17719.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
這個你們一樣可以依大法官的解釋來備長所以這個部分這個不是不行所以這個部分這個因為主席因為這跟第十九條有關係這個第21條之一一樣跟第十九條有關係的 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
17729.038 |
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17752.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
大法官當然是針對那個個案去做解釋但大法官的但書是希望他們要提修法你才能夠一體適用未來有可能發生的這些情勢所以這也是為什麼他們現在提出修法的版本出來那我們既然不處理的話那未來繼續有這樣的一個事情我不能再拿前面大法官的那個案例解釋來處理這個不要隨便點頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
17756.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
17757.707 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
17772.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
17774.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
17788.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
17792.917 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
17821.853 |
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17847.586 |
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全體委員會按照大法官的解釋了。法務部。法院現在所有的案子都照大法官的解釋。你這樣講好像是這個大法官的解釋一點效用都沒有。不是。不是。不是一點效用都沒有。很多法院就按照大法官的解釋。行政機關也要按照大法官的解釋。 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
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二）行政機關更要按照大法官的解釋。」我剛講了從民國94年2月5號延期法公布之前我們可以非營利自用我們不斷的修法修法 |
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就是因為在內政經濟委員會審查完還要協商然後協商啊協商我們開了很多次協商就是沒有通過第二十一條之一就是沒有通過現在要增加很多的限制增加了我們很多的限制當然我們還要我們這幾天啊每天說到我們鄉親的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
17896.274 |
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17916.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
條文修正草案案案件及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
17917.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
17918.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
條文修正草案案 案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
17939.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
17941.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 條文修正草案案 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
17954.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
17982.463 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
那張委員有同意我們就不予修正齁?欸 幫他所補充一下意見喔就是說我支持願版但是我還是要求就像我今天質詢的喔農業部還是要做這個動物野生動物的識別跟一些相關的微博計畫齁這地方還是要去做一些規劃的流程啊這樣才能夠避免未來還有像之前那樣的原因好不好?對對我剛才在質詢的時候有回應了欸那我們就要維持現行條文但是那個相關的那個說明修正的部分還是請農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
17987.235 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
17989.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
三十七條之一及第四十七條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
17991.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
18017.218 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
三十七條有行政院版有鄭委員、黃委員、吳麗華委員、張艾玲委員。行政院版的版本跟鄭天才委員版本跟黃潔範版本是一致的。然後那個吳委員的部分那因為吳委員第一項的部分要說明那個不是只有該直轄市機關應該還要少縣市的部分所以我們還是建議是說維持行政院的版本。 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
18018.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
18021.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
那另外張委員有關於說要登記審查的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
18022.776 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
18044.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
條文修正草案條例第十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
18050.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
18052.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
18066.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
18074.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11會期經濟委員會第十四條之一及第四十七條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
18082.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
18101.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
五委員的部分的第九款但是因為我們要回歸到違反第三十五條第一項的規定第三十五條第一項的規定是保育類野生動物及其產製品非經主管局院的同意不得買賣或在公共場所陳列或展示所以標的只要寫到保育類野生動物就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
18101.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
18121.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
那五委員的部分是還加了濱林絕種珍貴稀有那在35條是沒有的所以我們建議第九款還是維持我們行政院的版本然後再來就這樣其他的都一致好來請問各位有沒有意見沒有我們就照行政院版本通過好不好好謝謝好來接下來我們請看第51條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
18124.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
18149.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
五十一條之一的部分所有的序文的部分大家所有的委員的內容都一致那唯一有區別是在於是說保育類野生動物要不要加重處罰的部分那在行政院版的部分認為說保育類野生動物是要處二萬元以上跟十萬元以下還有第二個不同的部分是首次部分不罰的部分那在這一次行政院版是刪除的 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
18150.009 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
18152.173 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
18162.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
18164.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一． |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
18181.778 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
18203.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
相關的這些跟前面的那個原住民的條款有關係所以有關係所以這個部分我是建議也是保留了委員我要做個說明這個地方列補你要說明的是這個沒有依這個問題是這個會涉及到核准跟備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
18204.434 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
18209.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
條文修正草案案 條例文修正草案 條例文修正草案 條例文修正草案 條例文修正草案 條例文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
18233.413 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
18233.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
18250.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
18271.201 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
我還是跟委員報告一下大法會解釋的內容。我知道,我都看了。他的理由寫:「主管機關因審酌、和平、野生動物的保育、物種多樣性的維護及自然生態的平衡等重大公共利益,尤其考慮其珍貴性、稀少性跟存續危機的具體情形, |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
18271.801 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
18296.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
就原住民基於傳統飲食及文化的下因非營利自用之需而申請獵捕宰殺利用保育的野生動物部分持採特別嚴格的管制方案僅於特殊利益外,使得予許可,以求憲法上相關價值之衡平。」所以他大法官一解釋是希望我們要橫著這些因子去修這部法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
18297.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
18318.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
條文修正草案案 條例第十四條之一及第十六條條文修正草案 條例第十四條之一及第十六條條文修正草案 條例第十四條之一及第十八條條文修正草案 條例第十八條之一及第十八條條文修正草案 條例第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
18326.976 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
18354.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
包括在這邊51條之一不是說你列補這邊罰的是說你沒有來報備你沒有來報核准如果你有定情證契約也不會有違反這個的問題這個只有針對一般狩獵你沒有來報准你就去列補保育類野生動物我們要跟委員做個說明主席堅持保留嗎不是因為前面也是要保留好那就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
18356.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
18377.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
條文修正草案．事由．一．一條之一保留。來,五十二條。五十二條的部分,各委員的版本意思其實幾乎都是一致,只有小部分的文字。那賴若洋委員的那個第一項的那個前文,因為我們後來有做文字的修正,因為會重複,因為性情條文的文字是前後有點重複,所以我們把它做得更精簡的文字的調整。 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
18380.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
18400.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
第二項部分第一項是保育類野生動物第二項是違反本法的規定是針對所有的野生動物所以我們認為第二項的部分不能僅限在保育類必須是野生動物這樣才是會把所有的部分都涵蓋第一項是保育類第二項是所有的野生動物 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
18401.169 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
18401.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
條文修正草案案 。 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
18417.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
18438.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
條之一、第三十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第四十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
18438.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
18455.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
條文綜上農業部應就其定義明定於《野生動物保育法》施行細則,相關定義應納入必要時的邀集專家學者之精神,協助野生動物易施為補作業,避免造成民眾受傷或財產損失或野生動物傷害。 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
18457.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
18473.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
委員張祺楷等人所提附帶決議部落的狩獵依據傳統文化規範和禁忌衍生出與自然共生永續利用的智慧對於山林資源的永續利用作為首年但此事修法對於有狩獵文化的原住民族有些許影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
18474.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
18503.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
原住民需要一段熟悉與適應法規的時間,因此請農業部於本法草案通過三個月內在原住民族地區加強辦理修法說明會,並將修法說明會的時間與地點其成報告,送至本院委員會,宣讀完畢。好,來。負責決議第一案。第一案因為我們剛剛第21條已經保留了,所以那個深漢委員您的提案就保留了,好不好? |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
18504.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
18506.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
18522.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
18539.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
宣讀遠洋漁業條例協商結論,第三條趙委員、邱鎮軍等人提案通過,第十四條之一趙行政院提案通過,增加立法說明補充,第三十六條之一趙行政院提案通過,第四十七條趙行政院提案通過, |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
18540.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
18555.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
宣讀野生動物保育法第二條照行政院提案通過第四條維持現行法第十九條、二十一條、二十一條之一均保留第三十一條維持現行法不予修正 |
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、第三十七條造行政院提案通過、第五十條之一造行政院提案通過、第五十一條造行政院提案通過、第五十一條之一保留、第五十二條造行政院提案通過、附帶決議第一案保留、第二案、第三案均照案通過。 |
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好請問各位同仁照剛剛宣讀的協商結論有沒有意義沒有意義好沒有意義我們就通過討論事項所列遠洋漁業條例及野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案均審查完畢梁岸軍擬具審查報告提報院會討論那遠洋漁業條例的部分是不是要叫黨團協商 |
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條例部分條文修正草案．第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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三條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十 |
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條文修正草案案 案 及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |
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三十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及 |