| IVOD_ID |
15795 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15795 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-20-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-10T08:30:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-10T13:31:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
05:00:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528e6dd93cf8458dbe42247fba16bfc1c1c43be8d109af184be42f7f7b0136ec32e55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查「所得稅法」12案：
(一) 審查本院委員羅明才等23人擬具「所得稅法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 審查本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員馬文君等16人、委員魯明哲等23人、委員謝龍介等20人、委員賴士葆等17人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員林德福等21人、委員楊瓊瓔等16人、委員賴士葆等28人、委員王正旭等17人分別擬具「所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案」等11案。【本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員賴士葆等28人及委員王正旭等17人提案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
二、審查「加值型及非加值型營業稅法」4案：
(一) 行政院函請審議「加值型及非加值型營業稅法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團、委員黃捷等17人、委員吳宗憲等18人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第八條條文修正草案」等3案。【本院委員黃捷等17人及委員吳宗憲等18人提案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
【11日下午2時止，4月10日及11日二天一次會，僅詢答】） |
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完整會議 |
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08:30:48 - 13:31:00 |
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請報告出席人數報告委員會出席委員與主法定人數現在開始開會請議事人員宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
1878.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
1907.299 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議一、四、六、五時間中華民國113年4月1日星期一九十二分至十三十七分中華民國113年4月3日星期三九十五分至九十十四分地點清仙樓九樓大禮堂出席人林德武等14人、列席人張啟凱等25人列席官員113年4月1日星期一財政部部長莊翠雲金融監督管理委員會主任委員黃天牧內政部政務次長花敬群國家發展委員會副主任委員高仙貴等 |
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1908.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1926.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
113年4月3日星期三金融監督管理委員會主任委員黃天牧財政部部長莊翠穎、經濟部政務次長陳振祺等主席郭昭基委員郭文113年4月1日報告事項已宣讀上市會議議事錄決定議事錄確定二、邀請財政部部長莊翠穎、金融監督管理委員會黃主任委員天牧 |
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1928.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1952.469 |
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內政部國家發展委員會就如何積極推動金融業投注國內公共建設並達成涉財保安護資政策目標進行專題報告並被質詢。經財政部部長莊翠穎、金融監督管理委員會主任委員黃天牧、內政部政務次長花敬群、國家發展委員會副主任委員高仙貴分別提出報告後就委員林德福等19人提出質詢。經經內政部政務次長花敬群等予以答覆。決定一報告及詢答完畢。 |
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1953.149 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1974.889 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
二委員質詢為其答覆過情補充資訊。請相關部會與眾內以書面答覆。委員略要求其見者從其鎖定。委員要求因鎖定書面質詢,即委員牛許廷鎖定書面補充資料,均列入紀錄刊登公報,並請相關部會以書面答覆。通過臨時提案五案。113年4月3日,報告四項。一、處理中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
1976.584 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
2000.335 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
113年中央政府總預算決議有關金融監督管理委員會主管預算凍結書面報告案二十八案。於金融監督管理委員會決議一,凍結第一幕一般行政向下基本行政工作為此中優惠費至資訊服務費預算十分之一。二,金融監督管理委員會決議二,凍結第二幕金融監理預算十分之一。三,金融監督管理委員會決議三,凍結第二幕金融監理向下金融監督管理預算一百萬元書面報告。 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
2001.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
2029.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
四、金融監督管理委員會決議四、凍結第二幕、金融監理向下、金融監督管理七、優惠費預算50萬元五、金融監督管理委員會決議47、凍結第二幕、金融監理向下、金融監督管理預算1%六、金融監督管理委員會銀行局決議一、凍結第一幕、一般行政向下、基本行政工作維持中、優惠費之資訊服務費及設備及投資之資訊欄、硬體、設備費、預算各十分之一七、金融監督管理委員會銀行局決議二、凍結第一幕、一般行政向下、基本行政工作� |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
2031.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
2050.928 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
事務費預算十分之一。把金融監督管理委員會銀行局決議三,凍結第一幕銀行監理預算五十萬元。九,金融監督管理委員會政見期貨局決議一,凍結第一幕一般行政向下,基本行政工作維持中,業務費之教育訓練費預算十分之一。十,金融監督管理委員會政見期貨局決議二,凍結第一幕一般行政向下, |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
2051.348 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
2076.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
基本行政工作維持中業務費之資訊服務費及設備及投資資訊軟硬體設備費預算各十分之一。十一、金融監督管理委員會證券期貨局決議三、凍結第一幕一般行政向下基本行政工作維持中業務費之其他業務租金預算十分之一。十二、金融監督管理委員會證券期貨局決議四、凍結第二幕證券期貨市場監理預算十分之一。十三、金融監督管理委員會證券期貨局決議五、凍結第二幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
2076.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
2097.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
政協企業市場監理向下、政協企業市場監理之業務費預算十分之一、十四、金融監督管理委員會、政協企業局決議六、凍結第二幕、政協企業市場監理預算要十分之一、十五、金融監督管理委員會、政協企業局決議七、凍結第二幕、政協企業市場監理向下、政協企業市場監理中、業務費之國外旅費預算三十萬元、十六、 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
2097.942 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
2122.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
激盪監督管理委員會保險局決議一動決第一幕一般行政向下基本行政工作維持預算三十萬元十七激盪監督管理委員會保險局決議二動決第一幕一般行政向下基本行政工作維持中業務費之資訊服務費及設備及投資之資訊軟硬體設備費預算各十分之一十八激盪監督管理委員會保險局決議三動決第一幕一般行政向下基本行政工作維持中業務費之資訊服務費預算三十萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
2123.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
2144.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
十九、經常監督管理委員會保險局決議四、凍結第二幕保險監理預算二十萬元。二十、經常監督管理委員會保險局決議五、凍結第二幕保險監理預算十分之一。二十一、經常監督管理委員會保險局決議六、凍結第二幕保險監理向下保險監理之優惠費預算十分之一。二十二、經常監督管理委員會保險局決議七、凍結第二幕保險監理預算二十萬元。 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
2146.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
2164.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
23、經常監督管理委員保險局決議8、凍結第二幕保險監禮向下、保險監禮中業務費之國外禮費預算30萬元。24、經常監督管理委員會保險局決議9、凍結第二幕保險監禮向下、保險監禮中業務費之國外禮費預算25萬元。25、經常監督管理委員會檢查局決議1、凍結第一幕一般行政向下、 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
2164.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
2193.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
基本行政工作爲此中、業務費之防護建築養護會預算十分之一。二十六、金融監督管理委員會檢查局決議二、動決第一幕一般行政向下、基本行政工作爲此中、業務費之資訊服務費及設備及投資之資訊軟硬及設備費預算各十分之一。二十七、金融監督管理委員會檢查局決議三、動決第二幕金融機構檢查預算十分之一。二十八、金融監督管理委員會檢查局決議四、動決第二幕金融機構檢查向下、金融機構檢查之業務費預算一百萬元。 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
2194.708 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
2208.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
決定上6、28案均與報告完成,準以動之提拔院會。二、邀請金蘭監督管理委員會主任委員黃天牧、財政部莊部長翠英、經濟部行政院消費者保護處就如何改善我國融資公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
2209.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
2237.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
因缺乏監管,所以演稱之社會亂象,以穩定金融市場並保障消費者權益進行專題報告並被質詢。另邀請內政部警政署、法務部列席備詢。主席宣告,徵詢委會委員意見,鑒於各地陸續有災情傳出,加上餘震不斷,影響質詢及備詢者心情,以為考量集中度風險。本次議程令則即安排。宣布完畢。請問各位委員,對於上次議事錄有異議。 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
2239.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
2255.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
沒有異議、依實如確定。請審人宣渡今日議程。討論事項。一、審查《所得稅法》12案。一、審查本院委員羅明才等23人擬具《所得稅法》第15條條文修正草案。二、審查本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團、委員馬文君等16人、委員魯明哲等23人、 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
2260.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
2281.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
委員賴士葆等18人、委員林德甫等21人、委員楊瓊英等16人、委員賴士葆等28人、委員王振旭等17人、分別擬具所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案等11案。二、審查加值型及非加值型營業稅法事案。以行政院函請審議加值型及非加值型營業稅法部分條文修正草案案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
2281.744 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
2306.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
二、本院台灣民眾黨黨團、委員黃潔等17人、委員吳宗憲等18人、分別擬具加執行及非加執行營業稅法第八條條文修正草案等3案。宣列完畢。好,接上。現場吳秉瑞吳委員。也歡迎王振旭王委員。張志倫張委員。吳宗憲吳委員。 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
2311.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
2339.665 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
黃潔荒委員賴士寶賴委員林德福林委員現場財政部部長莊翠雲、方部長法制處代理處長黃慧玲國庫署署長陳柏澄輔稅署署長宋秀玲官務署署長彭英偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
2342.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2369.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
國有財產署署長曾國基財政資訊中心主任張文希金融建築管理委員會政企局副局長黃厚明衛生福利部長期照護師專門委員王玲怡社會級家庭署科長蔡淑珍 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
2371.684 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
2388.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
國民健康署科長鍾遠芳內政部地政司專門委員何尊達國土管理署專門委員張雲新華部參事林豐文介紹楊瓊英楊委員好,現在請 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
2399.434 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
2408.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
提案的委員啊來說明提案要址先請賴士葆委員說明提案要址三分鐘謝謝謝謝主席以及各位親信我有三個提案我就一併說明第一個案子是1706號的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
2428.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
2446.203 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
主要的就是我們現在這個台灣已經進入高齡的社會很快進入超高齡的社會那這種情況之下長照是一個很大的負擔目前長照的口出額只有12萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
2447.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
2467.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
我們覺得遠遠不夠所以我的提案很簡單很清楚我們希望我們希望這個把12萬提高到24萬以現在的物價現在的情況來講這個提高的其實算很少的啦我知道有其他委員提高到36萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
2468.917 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2493.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
那我是很客氣的提高到26萬請各位為我們支持這是第一個案子第二個案子是1707號的案子也是跟長照有關係的就是我們現在來講的話這個長照支出不斷的擴增我們透過房地合一稅、遺產稅、正乙稅、嬰酒稅補貼支出負擔非常的重 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
2494.201 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2520.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
那可是大家都知道其實醫學啊預防醫學重於治療醫學早期發現早期治療能夠降低重大或者慢性疾病的比例啊以及相應的健保長照的財政負擔因此在17條修正案裡面我加一個加一項再扣除個第六點這個健康檢查費 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
2521.929 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2546.356 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
其實如果健康檢查費你給他某種程度的誘因比較好的檢查能夠給他扣除的話我相信對於我們的這個能夠早期發現一些的問題疾病早期的治療相對可以降低未來健保費以及醫療的相關的支出所以我的扣除額呢就是一年五萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
2547.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2550.398 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2570.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2593.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
老年人在未來的時候他的投資理財比較要保守一點長期的投資所以他們對長期的投資有一定的扣除額那我這裡提到的就是說對於在中華民國台灣境內上市貴公司、股票以及ETF等 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2593.991 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2595.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
監督監督監督監督監督監 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
2615.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2619.955 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2644.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2668.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
能夠來批評,請各位支持。謝謝。好,謝謝賴委員。接著請林德福林委員說明提案要旨。謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
2670.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2697.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
我想除了我個人有提一個長照特別扣除額以外還有中國國民黨也提了一個就是一樣那這個國民黨這裡這個提的就是只有扣18萬但是我認為我就一併來做這個做報告就是兩個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
2698.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2715.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
那我認為說因為現在已經步入高齡化的社會那講實在話這個很多長者啊確實因為家裡齁這個小朋友可能要去讀書啦就業啦等等齁那 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
2716.541 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2730.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
呃家裡連他連續業長就是需要請外勞那外勞來照顧啊實際上目前整個外勞的照顧一個月啊連就業安定基金每個月固定只要2000塊大概一個月啊差不多要3萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
2732.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2760.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
實資額啦真的一定要3萬塊沒有3萬塊沒有辦法撐啦那實際上現在已經步入高齡化社會那我認為說他確實有那個支出本來就應該要讓他扣那麼多所以說我的主張就是每一年啊他有請外勞外傭就是扣36萬每個月扣3萬我認為是非常合理甚至於有的家庭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2761.837 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2770.36 |
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郭文貴等23人、委員馬文君等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員賴士葆等23人、委員 |
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郭文貴等23人等24人等25人等26人等28人等30人等31人等32人等34人等35人等36人等37人等38人等39人等40人等41人等42人等45人等45人等46人等47人等48人等49人等49人等50人等50人等50人等50人等49人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人 |
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因為現在是高齡化社會少子化時代這是很務實的那我們一定要面對不要說去規避逃避那你說為什麼很多小朋友現在不敢生他也是因為家庭的負擔那麼重等等我認為點穴面所以說我認為站在政府的立場這個徵稅的立場應該要多考慮多去考量他們的負擔 |
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2838.471 |
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撐得起、撐不起以上謝謝 |
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2875.75 |
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謝主席楊瓊發言本院委員楊瓊英等16人我們鑒於從1993年進入了高齡化的社會以來長照的需求逐年在增加據國家發展委員會的推估我國在65歲以上的人口將在2026年會突破20% |
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2901.427 |
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那換句話說我們會邁入超高年齡的這個社會那又依據內政部的一個調查國人照顧呢每位長期照顧需求的年發會呢大概要26萬那現在又因為同本的關係還會再增加也就是隨著扶養比例來提高那長照的需求它會引發了國人在整個財務 |
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2917.292 |
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勞動以及心理健康等各層面的一個影響所以政府應該要提早來評估因應同時我們再給一個數據也就是在國防會裡頭的推估我國65歲以上的人口將於2026年突破20%的脈絡超高年齡社會但是我們反看 |
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2925.034 |
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2942.133 |
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介石等福養比將從現在平均每4個人福養1位提升到2030年平均是2.7人福養1位到2040年平均2個人要福養1位那最後到2065年推估每1.2人要 |
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2968.456 |
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福養一位。等於是1比1的比例。所以社會及個人的負擔均日益加重。那麼我們再依照內政部的調查,國人照顧每一位長照需求的年換位,剛剛我們說了,至少26萬,而且通販還會持續在增加,跟現在主計總數平均每個人國民所得85萬相比較。 |
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2990.405 |
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一位年所得收入為國民平均的國人他花費將近三萬塊將近三成以上的所得用於照顧家中的中高年齡最顯見長照的壓力他是非常的沉重所以本席跟我們同仁等16位我們將 |
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2992.325 |
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3009.995 |
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這個所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案呢來減輕國人長照經濟負擔跟壓力那同時我們具體建立在特別扣除額的部分呢長期照顧特別扣除額每人由現在的12萬提升為24萬我覺得這個 |
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3012.196 |
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3012.436 |
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賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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3030.128 |
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3055.565 |
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這個生育率一直下降人數在減少的情況之下目前的推估2065年就1.2撫養一位但是我們可以預估喔如果依照目前的狀態來講呢2065年那麼應該等於是零點幾就要撫養一位那會更嚴重所以我們希望能夠得到行政部門以及各位同仁大院的一個支持讓大家可以減輕這個壓力一起來照顧我們的長輩謝謝 |
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3065.822 |
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好,謝謝楊卓英、楊委員接著請王振旭委員請王委員說明提案要旨謝謝主席今天的緊究對二二一四案進行提案說明主席、各位委員、各位官員大家早 |
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3085.503 |
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3099.568 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第1屆第2會期財政委員會第3會期財政委員會第4會期財政委員會第5會期財政委員會第6會期財政委員會第7會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第8會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第9會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第10會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第11會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會期財政委員會第12會 |
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3116.939 |
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也能夠有效降低後續醫療的支出。健康檢查不僅是針對成人,對象也應該擴及兒童。面對我國高齡化以及少子化的現狀, |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
3118.427 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
3128.872 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
王善等全民健康檢查具有高度的必要性然而根據衛生福利部國民健康署在2017年國民健康訪問調查的結果顯示40歲到64歲的國人中35.5%過去3年從未做過健康檢查那65歲以上的國人 |
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3141.579 |
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3158.076 |
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高達52%在過去一年裡面從來未曾做過健康檢查民眾健康檢查率有待提升可能的因素當然很多其中包括可能請假不義等時間的因素此外 |
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3159.096 |
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3186.734 |
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建檢費用對於不少國人也確實是一筆負擔因此如何有效的提升國人建檢的意願至關重要財政部過去曾於民國90年頒布函式指出如健康檢查與後續治療具因果關係則可依所得稅法第十七條得申報為醫藥費並內舉扣除不過受限於需與治療具因果關係 |
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3188.707 |
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3204.945 |
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這前提以至於多數的減減費用無法列舉扣除。財政部針對各項支出是否納入扣除而定有相關評估原則,包含是否經常性支出或必要性支出,以及該支出是否具有實益等。 |
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3220.704 |
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那民眾：健康檢查費用顯然符合必要性之原則同時也具備實質效益因此本次提出所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案新增支付健康檢查費用於 |
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3221.994 |
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3235.882 |
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公立醫院、全民健康保險特別醫療院所或經財政部認定其會計紀錄完備正確之醫院者每人每年扣除而以一萬元為限。包含未來政府政策規劃以及 |
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3237.463 |
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3262.675 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
WHO永續發展目標均提出2030年將癌症死亡率減少三分之一提升國人的健檢意願落實預防醫學將有助於此目標之達成原此懇請各位委員支持本次所得稅法修正草案以上謝謝謝謝王振旭王委員 |
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3265.305 |
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3269.388 |
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接著請黃婕黃委員說明提案要好謝謝主席 |
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呃在我的提案裡面呢因為其實我長期關注這個月經貧窮的事情那我做一個公衛系的畢業的畢業生然後我也長期非常支持性別議題那過去在高雄那現在在國會我都希望說可以趕快推動性別平權達到月經平權 |
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3315.838 |
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那這個月經貧窮的議題根據統計來看女性從出經到停經經過30多年的時間那一生當中可能大概平均大概是400多次的月經那月經的週期可能會一次用到30到40片的衛生棉 |
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3331.769 |
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那換算下來一生當中要花將近10萬塊以上來購買生理用品那可是在勞動部公告的這個薪資及生產力的統計性別分析裡面台灣社會還是存在非常嚴重的性別不平等的薪資結構 |
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呃就是女性受雇的員工的總薪資只為男性的八成左右也就是女性的薪資是相較於低於男性的那再加上這個生理用品的每個月支出其實對女性的財務來說相對是負擔那月經貧窮的議題它也是一個非常嚴重的健康議題因為處境困難的女性弱勢加上弱勢其實是 |
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3383.523 |
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讓這個女性更容易暴露在健康風險當中那我看一下現在各國的立法例減免生理用品的課稅已經是國際性別趨勢了包括現在加拿大、美國有很多州然後愛爾蘭、德國、英國都已經減免生理用品的課稅那也有一些國家是透過經費的補助或者是用免費提供生理用品的方式來辦理 |
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3411.612 |
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那為了要全面性的達到這個月經平權我現在有提出四項的修正案其中包括學校衛生法就是針對學校裡面的環境還有社會救助法針對低收、針對弱勢的女性還有身心障礙權益保障法針對身心障礙者還有今天要討論的加值型及非加值型的營業稅法把免營業稅的貨物新增一項經主管公告的 |
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3412.594 |
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3430.295 |
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月經生理用品希望可以減低購買生理用品的財政負擔那當然有考量到因為生生理用品的種類非常多元現在也有月亮杯也有月亮褲等等在推陳出新當中所以這個清單的內容由主管機關來定期公告 |
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3431.996 |
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3451.506 |
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那這一次非常難得是有很多跨黨派的委員都有提案所以我很希望說這個會期可以大家來共同討論來把這個修法順利的推進來全面保障學生經濟弱勢、身心障礙還有一般女性在生理用品上面的可敬性以上報告謝謝 |
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3454.602 |
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3454.922 |
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吳宗憲、吳委員 |
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3469.395 |
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3494.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
主席各位立委同仁大家好我提的主要部分跟剛剛黃婕委員的提案大致上類似也就是主要是要朝向兩性平權的方向去努力那我們這一次我這邊主要提的修正草案是針對加值型跟非加值型營業稅法第八條的部分那我們主張主要是經過主管機關他 |
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3495.823 |
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3518.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
公告的有關類似衛生棉、衛生棉條之類的像月經、涼杯、布衛生棉或生理庫方面這些生理用品我們希望能夠納入免稅的範圍來保障婦女的權益那我們也知道在目前我們國內男性跟女性在薪資上面確實有一個落差那1911年勞動部公布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
3521.605 |
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3530.692 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
林鄭月娥等23人、委員馬文君等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰等23人、委員賴清晰 |
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3536.443 |
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3558.484 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
呃的支出那如果就這個部分再加以課稅的話增加他這個這個相關用品的售價這個其實對女性是相當不公平那呃剛剛黃婕議員也有提到每一位女性一生平均的生理用品的花費大概要10萬元其實這個也會造成了呃月經貧窮的這個狀況發生哦所以 |
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3561.727 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3578.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
有些女性她為了節省這些生理用品的使用讓她去延長她的使用時間那會造成一些相關的感染的一些問題發生甚至影響到心理健康那這些一樣也是無形的會影響到健保的支出 |
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3579.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3601.739 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
那這幾年像是英國、蘇格蘭、加拿大、美國的部分州他們也都有免除生理用品的營業稅那蘇格蘭他是更進一步在全境內提供免費的用品生理用品那我想說台灣應該藉此次既然各黨派對這個議題都有高度的共識那希望說藉由這個機會我們趕快推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
3603.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
3605.281 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
主席、各位委員、處理的習慣大家好。 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
3631.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
3652.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
那今天就所得稅法第15條來做若干的修正那也請部長可以關心一下台灣的民眾我們看到整個台灣現在貧富的懸殊可以說差距越來越大問了很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
3653.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
3665.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
年輕朋友那個護國神山舉個例子台積電有沒有買到通通說以前有聽過或許有買過可是你漲了以後他可能就賣掉了 |
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3666.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
3686.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
所以我們希望說能多多鼓勵年輕人對於好的股票他可以長期的持有換言之就是讓這些存股族他不要去擔心或造成很大的一個稅負的一個負擔他可以長期的持有這是最重要的一個精神 |
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3688.416 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
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李卓人等23人等24人等25人等26人等28人等30人等31人等32人等34人等35人等36人等37人等38人等39人等40人等41人等42人等45人等46人等47人等48人等49人等49人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等 |
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光是11住行的都壓的喘不過氣來所以這次本席提案也獲得很多顏寬恒、蘇清泉、洪孟凱等23人大家大力的支持都覺得很有道理 |
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那最主要是為了承襲兩稅合一、設算扣抵、減半制度的精神。那我們提出這樣的一個做法。那過去8.5%計算和扣抵的稅額調整為按10%來計算。那因為我們參考民國110年調整所得稅、免稅額還有標準扣除額薪資扣除 |
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金之所得寇除而知條譜。大家都有條啦齁,所以我們也希望說這個能作以調整。那今天另外有很多的案子啊,其實都是照顧老人、照顧年輕人、照顧女性、照顧男性,其實這個都是很需要的。現在國庫可以說是兵搶馬撞的時候,每年稅收都超增。超增3000億、5000億,變成是常態。與其這個花袋大家都看不到, |
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這個亂亂用倒不如好好來照顧所有的全民大家多多少少在這個高通膨的時代可以得到一點點的小確幸請大家多多支持謝謝謝謝羅昭維來我們來繼續請財政部莊部長說明及回應黨團及委員所提案的這些內容來莊部長請 |
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主席、各位委員先進大家好今日貴委員會審查行政院含情審議的加值型及非加值型營業稅法部分條文修正草案以及中國國民黨黨團還有台灣民眾黨黨團以及大院委員分別所擬具的所得稅法第十五條所得稅法第十七條 |
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以及營業稅法第八條條文的修正草案總共15案本部做一個簡要的報告以及說明進行指教首先是行政院含情審議的營業稅法部分條文修正草案這一次修正重點主要是在定名營業人開立的電子發票 |
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副友依照實現把電子發票的相關必要資訊存證到本部的電子發票整合服務平台的義務以及如果違反這個義務的相關的處罰規定來確保我們買售人正確扣抵競向稅額消費者能夠及時的查詢發票以及它的消費明細那麼保障民眾對獎的權益並且簡化記帳者的申報作業 |
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第二個部分是中國國民黨團以及台灣民眾黨團和各委員所擬具的所得稅法的修正條文總共有12案有關羅委員23人提案修正的第15條有關鼓勵可抵減比例因應盈利事業所得稅稅率的20%的半數10%為準以及按消費者物價指數調高可抵減稅額的上限金額到8.32萬元 |
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由於現行的鼓勵所得課稅制度的可抵減稅額比率8.5%以及抵減金額上限8萬元是根據104年度兩稅合一涉算扣抵制度的平均扣抵比率的8.4%以及中低鼓勵所得加護的 |
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蔻抵金額來訂定的和營利事業實際繳納的營所稅並沒有關聯而且可以抵減的稅額並不是屬於賺取股利的必要費用也和物價指數無關那麼股利可抵減稅額是政府額外提供的租稅優惠那蔻抵營納稅額後有餘額還可以退稅那麼享有比其他類別所得優惠的租稅待遇那麼現行規定還屬合宜 |
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至於有關中國國民黨團以及台灣民眾黨團及各委員所擬的所得稅法17條的免稅額以及扣除額相關的修正草案總共有11案近年來本部持續優化所得稅制以及根據消費者物價指數上漲的程度來調整免稅額以及相關的扣除額的額度經統計110年度全部申報戶列報總扣除額佔全部所得的比率 |
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達到61%。換言之就是只有39%的所得需要負擔所得稅。社會各界對於中所稅的免稅額還有扣除額、旅遊建議增列項目提高扣除額的額度或者是擴大適用範圍等等為了維護財政的穩健有關各黨團以及委員的提案我們將就財政的收入 |
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租稅的公平、還有稅政的簡化等原則來通盤考量,審慎的評估它的必要性、可行性以及有效性。第三個,對於台灣民眾黨團及各委員所擬具的營業稅法第八條的條文修正草案, |
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我國的營業稅是屬於一般的消費稅對於銷售一般貨物或者老物來課徵現行的加執行營業稅的稅率5%已經是國際間的最低那麼營業稅法第八條它的免稅項目都有它的特定政策目的但是並沒有就個別的產品來提供免稅目前大多數採取加執行營業稅國家 |
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並沒有對女性的生理用品可以免徵營業稅考量我國的營業稅是內涵在商品的售價裡面如果營業人並沒有把減稅利益全部都全數的反映在商品的售價那買售人實際上並沒有辦法享受到減稅的利益 |
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反而使國庫每年市以3.8億元的稅收損失來補貼生產以及銷售女性生理用品的廠商也恐怕會引起其他的銷售類似產品的營業人也要求援引比照那麼就會擴大稅收的損失以上的報告及說明敬請各位委員指教敬請會議支持營業稅法的行政院的版本營業稅法修正案的行政院版本謝謝 |
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好,謝謝。接著請台灣民眾黨黨團代表黃珊珊委員說明提案要旨。主席還有各位同仁我想今天台灣民眾黨這個有關加值型業稅的相關的修正案主要是因為我們也希望能夠 |
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校法全世界先進國家。先進國家在我國是東亞國家中最進步的國家之一,但是我國的女性在日常生活中還是面對到非常多的不平等。在國際上已經有非常多的國家都已經免除生理用品的加值型業稅,包括美國有28個州、加拿大、英國、愛爾蘭。 |
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澳洲、印度、甚至英國全部取消生理用品稅。更何況是蘇格蘭已經全境提供免費的生理用品。我在台北市的時候,台北市也針對國中女生已經給了所謂的兌換券,也就是所有在台北市的國中女生現在已經可以免費使用生理用品。 |
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賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、 |
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梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、 |
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月金他不是只有不是人民女性可以選擇而是他是先天被迫而他必須承受的這項的東西我想部長也是女性我們都有一樣的困擾那財政部在這個案子裡面他們說可能會造成紙尿褲或者是尿布他們來爭取我想這個是完全 |
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完全扭曲了所謂的我們今天提案的內容這個提案國民黨團、民進黨團、台灣民眾黨團非常難得的三個黨團都共同的提案所以我剛剛也跟莊惠雄委員、賴美林委員三個跨黨派我們都已經開過記者會也就是我們希望這次在新的一屆國會 |
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第一次有跨黨派三黨都支持的法案。我們也希望這是新國會第一個可以出委員會第一個可以完成三讀的法案。而這個法案除了執行面是財政部要去克服的但是我們要向全世界去宣示台灣是亞洲最支持 |
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女性月經平權消彌的國家。我們也是東亞裡面在性別上面還是維持我們是最先進國家的這樣的立場。所以今天這個法案的提案我希望它能夠各位委員還有財政部我們希望能夠推動以後我們希望成為台灣是第一個在亞洲裡面我們已經非常明確除了 |
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通過同性婚姻,我們也能夠在月經平權上面做進一步的貢獻。謝謝。好,謝謝黃珊珊、黃委員。現在我們開始詢答。那,每委員8加2,列席5加1,今天早上10點,截止團員登記。三,本次會議委員若有相關修正動議, |
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請競送財政委員會議事人員收件以便後續審查的這些程序現在請第一位林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福林委員質詢林德福 |
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委員長部長早部長我想因為剛剛很多委員同仁他們都有提出這是不分黨派的因為女性天生整個生理的構造每個月都有生理期須比男性多支出一筆生理用品的這些費用 |
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那其實現在有不少國家都已經取消這些生理用品的營業稅那不知道財政部對於這個生理用品免營業稅這個財政部這邊的看法是如何 |
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謝謝委員剛剛在報告裡面提到營業稅是屬於一般的消費稅他對一般的貨物都有課徵除了特定政策目的比如說農業的或者社會福利教育或國防等等這樣的因素免徵營業稅之外其他對一般的貨物都有 |
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呃、都有課徵也沒有對特定的項目給予免徵那至於我想各位委員都非常關心就女性生理用品我想身為女性都非常感謝委員對這個部分的一個關注但是我們可能要考慮到他的一個有效性 |
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有效性跟可行性為什麼因為我們的營業稅是屬於內涵在售價裡面如果我們免徵了這個營業稅那他沒有是不是能夠如實反映在這個用品的一個售價上如果沒有實質反映的話那實質上是等於政府的稅收去補貼相關相關的長相我了解不是補貼業者啦問題是你們要去督啊要去了解啊因為吼這個今天吼不管債朝債野那麼多這個委員啊 |
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都有一致性的看法。我認為財政部這方面你們應該要好好地去探討研究怎麼做比較讓兩性能夠平等。我們認為其實剛剛很多委員也特別提到了其實有很多的方式來可以減輕女性朋友在這方面的一個負擔 |
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美國財政部部長葉倫結束訪問中國的行程他提出到中國的這個產能過剩問題相當的嚴峻那美國不會放任中國低價傾銷新能源的產品以至於重創美國相關產業的事件重演甚至於不排除動用加徵關稅等措施那我請問部長你認為 |
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葉倫這趟中國行對美中貿易戰的對立演變可能發生會有哪些的變化呢?這一次美國財政部長葉倫反問中國大陸提出來有關中國大陸才能過剩這樣的一個問題 |
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那後續美國會採取什麼樣的一個措施這是我們持續在觀察當中的那你認為未來會是好轉還是維持現狀還是會惡化呢我想這個部分我們會持續的關注那目前並沒有看到美國提出相關的一些的一個措施那你認為對台灣未來的經貿上會不會有一些影響 |
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呃對於台灣的一個相關影響也跟委員報告啊其實我們這幾個月來啊都是我們的出口都是成為正成長不管一月二月以後呃一月二月都是年增呃百分之九點七那所以整個來說尤其我們對美國的出口是成長到百分之五十四而且對東西的出口成長到百分之二十六這個部分在市場上我們一直做一個然後再加上我們的知通跟視聽產品他是我們的優勢所以成長到一倍以上當然 |
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美國未來的美中之間的貿易的一個征戰會不會有一些什麼樣的情況也是我們要關注它的一個不確定因素之一那目前看起來整個全球的一個景氣復甦的一個力道還蠻溫和平穩的一些上漲而且有關庫存的這個消化也進入到一個正常的一個狀態所以整個出口目前看起來是一個正成長的一個趨勢是的 |
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那你認為業人提到這趟中國行在捍衛美國利益與中國官員會面時重點在關注中國內需的疲軟那中國政府大規模支持電動車、電池和太陽能產品等等這些新能源的這些產業造成行業過度的投資等議題那我請問部長美國對於中國新能源產品產能過剩的主張你認為 |
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對中國台商會不會產生影響或衝擊?你認為會不會?我想我們在中國大陸的台商他其實相關的一些因應措施這幾年已經有做過相關的一些調整 |
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那對於這個我們在台商這裡面的過程當中會有造成會有什麼樣的策略上的一個改變那個涉及到國際間廠商的一個貿易的一些策略還有實務操作跟競爭關係那我想這個部分我相信我們的廠商以及經濟部跟國發會也都會在持續的關注那你認為國內這些上市櫃企業在中國動人會不會打折扣啊? |
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呃這個部分確實有呃含有一些不確定的一些因素在裡面是這樣吼嗯那個上個禮拜六美國依據台美21世紀的貿易倡議首批協定執行法公佈其中有關農業啦環境啦以及勞動共三個章節談判目標及相關的內容那 |
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在這首批協定中臺美雙方簽訂了貿易便捷化你曾說針對報關、快遞業者一年可以節省一億臺幣的成本等於是降低物價的影響還需要估算那我請問部長在萬物其長的環境下你認為是不是真的能夠發揮降低物價的效果會不會 |
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跟委員報告對於台美21世紀貿易倡議的首批協定裡面並沒有關稅減讓這個議題所以沒有降稅跟相關討論以及這樣的一個談判那這裡面有所謂剛剛委員也提到的一個關務行政跟貿易便捷化這個部分那這個部分主要是確保我們關務程序的效率還有透明化然後簡化通關還有邊境查驗的作業可以讓我們透過電子化的方式來加速通關那節省 |
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進出口貿易通關的時間和成本這是這個部分那另外呢我們的行政院經貿談判辦公室呢也委請了中華經濟研究院來做一個評估對這個21世紀貿易倡議的首批協定裡面那大概有一個做一個研究結果預計台美貿易變節化的實施可以降低台灣的3%到5%的一個貿易成本 |
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那你認為到時候反而會不會變成商人擴大獲利的空間?我想這個是一個相互的一個互惠的 |
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那個部長,央行內部研究報告分析近年來通膨結構的轉變指出核心物價漲價週期縮短尤其是近3年平均不到8個月就調漲至少1%這是近年來民眾對物價上漲感受更深刻的一個關鍵那我請問部長貿易談判的實質利益真的是一定能夠落實在降低物價上面嗎? |
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呃,您所謂貿易談判是指台美之間的?對。台美貿易之間這一個部分其實我們這個部分主要是在涉及財政部的部分只是官務的行政還有貿易變節化是在程序部分做一些的一個更為透明更為變節那但是對於關稅的稅率還有減稅的部分都沒有去談判那你認為這在物價全球通膨的影響下 |
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貿易談判的這個物價說不定還有可能會出現反效果。部長您怎麼看呢?這個部分當然因為涉及貿易的一個談判的內容那我想這個部分可能是在經濟部那邊去做談判他們會做審慎的評估也跟相關的目的事業主管機關比如說農業也好或勞動等等這個部分他們會去做詳細的審慎的評估。 |
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媒體報導財政部預估今年出口將是四季紅這是因為各產業去化庫存成果的顯現那中端需求回溫又有AI高效能的運算車用電子等等這些新興科技應用的商機來助攻帶動 |
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高階晶片以及伺服器需求的緣故那部長403地震後你對於財政部原先估算今年的經濟前景你認為會不會有變化在403地震之後那在花蓮地區造成某些產業的一個損失那政府也盡最大的努力來做 |
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呃一些協助補貼以及讓他們盡快的一些復甦那由於我們的出口裡面的產品的品質大部分都是產品的項目倒是在於半導體以及電子產品的產業那在這個部分大概在花蓮地區的這個部分的產業呃設廠應該是沒有大部分都在西部地區 |
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那你認為有沒有什麼變化?是不是衝擊很大?我想我們責任政府的責任就是希望這些受創的一個廠商能夠盡快的能夠復甦。那我們在這個 |
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夏期裡面這個四月的連假期間都沒有停歇不管有到現場去的或者是沒有到現場但是在台北也就對一個部會所能夠提出的相關的輔助的措施都已經羅列出來然後能夠用從速、從寬、從優的方式來協助當地的民眾也好產業也好能夠盡快的部署 |
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中華經濟研究院曾評估921大地震造成310億元的這個收入減少以及1500億的政府支出這個大幅度的增加使得政府財政自治擴大那對於財政危機的警訊無疑是雪上加霜那請問這次403地震會不會和25年前921地震一樣 |
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政府財政也會受到衝擊,會不會?對政府的財政或有影響,但是我想在程度上或第一個程度上跟廣度上應該沒有像921地震這麼嚴重因為921地震以後我們其實採取了相當多的比如說防震係數的提高在建築物的要求上都有比較高的一個要求 |
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那目前來看,比如說那天臺北的許多捷運也好,各項大眾運輸也都維持一個正常﹖所以說你認為不會,我們應該是不是要怎樣去維持這個運作災後整個政府的財政支柱才能夠兼顧災後重建和財政呢?是,所以跟委員報告,我們維持財政的韌性很重要,維持財政的韌性,所以這個部分一直是財政部在努力的部分,就是我們要維持一定的財政韌性, |
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我希望財政部在這方面你們要去未雨綢繆謝謝委員謝謝接下來請吳秉瑞委員諮詢主席麻煩請財政部莊部長請莊部長 |
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是委員好部長剛剛幾位同仁在這個 |
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提案說明跟你們的回答我聽起來最大的差別在哪裡呢?幾位提案說明都誓言旦旦說很多的國家對於這一些女性的那個身體用品已經都免了營業稅但是你的報告裡面卻說目前沒有先進國家沒有人有這樣的做法那到底是誰的說法是正確的呢? |
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跟委員報告這邊我們也收集了相關國際間對於女性生理用品給予免稅的目前是英國澳洲跟加拿大但他們的稅率呢相對都是高的大概有英國像百分之二十澳洲是十然後加拿大是五那其他像匈牙利丹麥瑞典等等都沒有免稅的規定那剛剛提到的好多國家美國啊英國啊什麼 |
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到底誰的資訊是正確的我現在我沒有採一定的立場是我坐在台下聽發現你們最大的問題是你們根本就沒有在同一個平台上面對話啊他們提案說明的人說這麼多的先進國家對女性的這個生理用品都有今年營業稅了結果你們的報告裡面講說沒有啊只有少數國家那當然還有你們還列舉了其他的點啦我只是要跟你提醒 |
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提醒說你們剛剛我在台下聽了半個小時你們的對話沒有在同一個層面上那這個部分我們也可以再去擴大了解大家要了解有調查有了解詳盡了解才能有發言的所有的正確那要跟你請教就是最近因為美國跟南韓同時都發現中國大量的這個電商平台這個西音、拼多多的海外版這個TEMU |
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寄給他們的這個免稅包裹數量非常的龐大甚至認為有傾銷的嫌疑所以在政策上面他們兩個國家都要提出對策這個訊息你知道嗎 |
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是的 了解那美國的這個對策啊他是這個要加強來審查然後對於違反他們認為說有可能這些這麼大量的數有可能違反了這個強制勞動的禁令所謂美國認為強制勞動禁令就是對於新疆這樣子的這個集中營 |
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在那邊製造的東西或是在這個中國的監所加工製造的產品如果用這樣的方式來賣來的話他們認為違反了這個強制勞動的禁令那韓國南韓是這樣子是如果你沒有在當地南韓國落地然後設立辦公室你的這個包裹電商的包裹進來之後會 |
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消費者保護的問題因為將來這些消費者不知道要去找誰如果有瑕疵的時候所以他要求要強制落地那目前這兩個方面台灣都沒踩台灣的策略是過去我一再要求所以你們第一個把免稅的金額從3000降到2000第二個是一個人一年只能六次的免稅額度目前的做法是這樣那他三至十可以工作我想請問 |
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這個電商平台賣到台灣來的這些的包裹第一個他不用繳營業稅對不對在免稅的範圍內的不用繳營業稅對不對對免稅範圍裡面才有超過就要沒有營業稅也沒有關稅所以他的成本比在台灣自己本身製造的廠商台灣的廠商出廠要營業稅捏在我們台灣消費是不是要營業稅今天大家在談的營業稅台灣是5%嘛是的是那 |
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這些產品為什麼這些產品像上一次的所謂的中國震盪就是中國把大量的製造業都搶到中國去美國的報告說鋼鐵業在上一波中國震盪讓美國損失了200萬到240萬的工作機會所以川普才提出製造會重圍美國那現在因為中國的這個低價品的這些大量的傾銷大量的補貼 |
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全世界認為他的產能不當沒有限制然後政府不斷在補貼要引起第二波的中國震盪那我請問你台灣這些大量的包裹都從哪裡來的?主要都從哪裡來? |
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委員報告大概快遞報單裡面你看大概百分之八十八成以上都是從中港澳來的事實上數量是蠻大的對那我想請教你你政策上不能夠再思考嗎我們為什麼台灣的廠商在台灣製造的產品要繳營業稅要繳這個價值型營業稅然後 |
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從中國來的這些這個電商的貨品不用營業稅再來之後再免稅額度你們又不用關稅那我們關稅的目的在哪裡?原來關稅做到的目的就是要保護台灣的製造業啊結果你把關稅免掉了那想要請教有沒有統計中國80%以上從中國地區來的 |
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這一些電商的這些包裹,你們估過它的金額是多少?一兆,完稅價格大概一兆一兆多?那一兆多裡面的免稅額是佔多少?免稅額,目前我們徵稅的金額快遞貨物是310幾億左右 |
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一兆多才300億是幾億了一兆多的貨物假設一兆多的貨物在台灣製造的話光營業稅最少就要500億了更不要講說他企業賺的錢然後在台灣增加的工作機會台灣的員工領的薪水如果超過所得稅一納額他將來隔年要繳的所得稅所以我們放任這樣大量的電商的這些包裹大量進到台灣來是好到誰啊這是一個 |
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要很慎重思考的問題關於整個台灣的產業台灣的稅率的政策我們為什麼要一個這樣的政策呢為什麼要一個兩千萬兩千塊以下的這個免稅額呢原因是什麼報告委員這是WTO世界就是那個還有WTO世界公務組織他的規定全世界各國都有採取低價免稅 |
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那為什麼美國的標準是800美金那韓國是150美金我們台灣是2000台幣所以每一個國家的金額都不一樣差距也這麼大這個你越讓他進來越多對台灣的製造業就越不利啊 |
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那現在中國一個最大的問題被全世界詬病就是他們這些的產品本來對外沒有競爭力因為中國政府的大量補貼他甚至只要賣出國他就賺錢了不論他比他製造的成本高還是低啊那要想辦法現在全球的浪潮美國、南韓這些國家正在重視這些問題我們台灣是不是應該要重視這些問題 |
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是,報告委員,這個如同委員剛所說的,美國他是從2016年從200美金提高到800美金,非常大幅的提高,所以他現在的情況會非常嚴重,那我們從以前就只有3000,後來在 |
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一百零七人降兩千,然後我們有剛剛委員提到的次數頻繁,然後我們有每一件都要過X光,我們都要實名制都要以報單,那這在美國它是沒有的,所以我們對大陸貨物有頻繁。那你有查他有沒有違反他們的強制勞動禁令嗎?我們台灣容許新疆那種集中營製造的這些商品到台灣來嗎? |
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你們沒有辦法查驗嘛對不對目前這部分行政院已經在指示各部會研議當中對於這個強迫勞動的貨品應該要禁止他輸入這已經在研議當中好那韓國他三隻手可以工作韓國的政策必須這些電商要在韓國落地不然他的消費者保護將來瑕疵商品造成的損害賠償他要去找誰 |
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不是只有商品本身的問題商品的瑕疵有可能造成消費者另外的傷害這在民法的損害賠償裡面講得清清楚楚那如果你這個是電商寄來的消費者打開就裡面有瑕疵害得消費者受害照目前的方法要去找誰找誰呢所以消費者保護的需要韓國要求電商必須在韓國落地台灣會做這個方面的要求嗎 |
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呃,包委員,呃,如同委員講的,他韓國是在電子商務法裡面去規範,他電商要落地。是。那這一部分目前台灣的確沒有規範到說電商要在台灣落地。那你們打不打算提出這方面的建議呢?要求電商落地啊,這樣繳稅也清楚啊,那不然他錢賺走了,結果他造成了損害賠償,屁股拍一拍不要負責任嗎? |
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這部分我們再研議一下啦好那部長我現在講其實過去你們因為我的要求所以已經有做了一些改善但是我覺得趁著這個浪潮現在全球是在面對中國第二次震盪這一些大量傾銷補貼傾銷的這個狀況我們要再一次來檢討這個政策既然有規定不能沒有但是金額是大家可以自己高興決定的是 |
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看起來沒有強制規定金額嘛那第一個檢討金額第二個檢討次數第三個要求對於這個強制勞動禁令的這個檢查第四個對於消費者保護要求它落地這一些都是人家其他國家可以提供的這些政策可以供我們參考做通盤性、全面性的檢討好不好是我想謝謝委員的建議這個部分這也是為了保護我們台灣的製造業跟保護台灣的勞工啦好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝 |
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下一位質詢請賴士寶、賴委員謝謝主席以及各位先進有請財政部的莊部長請莊部長委員好部長早安 |
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今天早上總統府那邊公布新內閣的名單還沒有看到財政部長 |
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因為來這邊所以我也不知道他們大概昨天從媒體上有看到你有沒有接到電話這個部分我想對我來說是把現在工作把它做好所以如果電話來你就一不容辭這個不做任何預設還沒有辦法回答這個問題沒辦法回答但是心裡會期待喔 |
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這個個人的去留並不重要,我把現在的工作做好。每天等電話喔?不會。沒有這樣子?沒有沒有。沒有所得電話?電話還要把它放大氣一下,要不然聽不懂。好,我們來看喔。四零三的,零四零三的大地震,你們有提到,可以列舉扣除啦,在民進嘛齁。但是我查了一下, |
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從民國87年開始我們財產的損失因為地震啊是15萬元對吧15萬對15萬元是財產損失那個署長搖頭勒署長搖頭不是啊來來來講多少錢 |
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報告委員,我們對災害損失如果實際有受損是沒有限額限制的。我知道啦,但是15萬以內輸審啦。對,他可以用重大災區他可以由里長。15萬以內輸審,15萬以上你就要去在此地查額幹什麼的啊。我講輸審啦,不是,沒有限制,對啦。好,我有限制就問你了。我現在就問你一個問題了。 |
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現在至少到目前為止財政部有沒有接到指示要提0403的政災特別條例有沒有目前沒有沒有對 |
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如果有的話你們預估大概有多少錢?我想這個部分我們各個部會其實在這幾天一直都提出相關的一些措施那就盡快、盡速的去做目前來說透過有我們的公股、行庫還有金融事業的一些比較寬的一個舒適的處理那對於民眾 |
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副總統、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、委員長、 |
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現在來講的話,這個我就不知道這個應該這樣怎麼算,那我就問你比較具體的,比較具體的。 |
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就是受災戶因為五月份的報稅是受災戶報稅時間可不可往後延這個部分我想讓我們目前來說第一個民眾可以在五月份裡面來申報如果他確實如果沒有辦法在期間內繳稅款的話可以做延期或者說分三年來繳納的一個分期那至於要不要延長這個申報期限我想這個部分 |
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會由我們的北區國稅局來做一個評估,看看提供一個適當的一個協助。什麼時候可以評估出來?這個部分那個北區國稅局...五月馬上要到了耶!五月要開始報稅,純薄居綱啊!你們現在這麼大的事情,怎麼還在研議呢?北區國稅局局長在這邊。為什麼還在研議? |
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不能夠給答案嗎? |
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盧綺申報不延長對,我們會提供額外的輔導申報的措施特殊情況給你延長 |
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阿結果特殊情況你去加幫助人家幫助什麼阿?他巨頭無敵所那個地方可能網路也不通阿怎麼上網報呢?阿可能跑區公所阿都出了都沒出阿你叫他去申報這個東西我願意要申報你沒事 |
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呃委員我想這個申報的期間齁我們會用各種方式認真思考把他延後啦對受災禍當然您的這個建議我們也會認真思考對不對然後看看這把你這麼冷血的這個怎麼會說這一點彈性都沒有來我們來看齁你的那破碎了結果新的措施比如說我們那個宋署長啊一開始念之再之啊搞了好久搞成了CFC啊嗯 |
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老百姓都不知道欸!你就跟會計師說明而已啊!跟其他的企業說明啊!你為什麼新聞稿發一封啊?一般普通人也不知道!CFC也不知道!老百姓也不知道!有,我們就一直在加強的宣導而且在報稅期間我們會有專人服務我打一下CFC都沒有看到財政部! |
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都是會計師的意見都沒有財政部的newsletter加強讓你就知道一下還有第二個第二個是是是手機報稅現在是估算對不對有一個查調的估算估算不是試算吧也就是說他不是試算喔估算跟試算什麼不一樣 |
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姑算這個部分其實因為我們一直在姑算就是粗略的算一算也把相關的所得還有扣除的都已經放進來請問你啊請問你啊你們兩位長官姑算英文講不講?失算英文怎麼講? |
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跟委員報告今年有一個估算最主要是我們未來希望對稅額是如果我是你我去回答說估算就簡單估算就是流氓隨便算你算就估算對不對試算不是精準這樣比較接近事實要試算對啦其實是對啦其實是算的是一樣用不再精準啦然後也會把所得跟扣除的都放在裡面啦兩位長官同樣 |
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老百姓普羅都不知道。你Google一下,看看。看的人也不多,你們發的新聞稿也不多。加強一下。好,我們加強宣導來說明是,謝謝委員的建議,謝謝。對,第二個,OpenAI它有一個產品大家知道,ChatGPT,4月在日本社的辦事處。是。 |
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台灣有沒有要求要做稅級登記open AI有沒有因為根據AI Foundation科技就是AI科技基金會他調查台灣半數以上的企業都用chat GPT半數以上包括人民啊chat GPT用的這麼廣有沒有做稅級登記有沒有好這是是不是由我們署長講的 |
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包括國委員齁目前我們講的確GPT它有兩種賣的方式一種是透過我們Google跟Apple就App Store去賣齁這一種它有報稅因為它是直接由Google跟Apple去報稅那現在委員關切的是說如果它自己賣的部分而且我們台北國稅局已經發函輔導它落極就是落地什麼時候可以確定我們在加強 |
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一月以內可以嗎?一月以內可以嗎?一月!可以嗎?兩個月! |
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這個要了,你們FB已經課了,不,請問一下,FB再次問你FB繳稅的問題還沒給我答案嗎?他已經落地了,而且他都繳稅了。一念水一數水都繳了。都繳了,都繳了,謝謝委員的關心。我們OpenAI用得非常普遍,要課稅,好不好,比照境外電商在國內, |
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提供服務或是銷售服務要課稅。今天發佈內閣,後來請到高雄大廈的賴總統,他說給卓榮泰這座AI行動內閣,簡稱AI內閣,你們財政部要不要跟得上。AI查稅,我懂嗎?AI報稅,我懂嗎? |
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好!這個AI是個部分我們會再運用這個科技來努力!有!有!我們有運用這個!有想過!我一直點頭!我送書長一直點頭!對!有!對啊!是的!會的!好!我們看看第三個題目我跟你講!台灣紀聯公司你知道了!台灣紀聯今天有沒有來?台灣紀聯董事長?台灣紀聯今天沒有來!對啦!好! |
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台灣金融是你們成立的喔!幫公股銀行處理NPL也就是廣義來講接近AMC啦齁股東、合股銀行、第一銀行等等等有十一家結果台灣金融曾幾何時把自己轉型了 |
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草地草房就是台灣今年做的很大主要的業務啊他原來你給他的任務是AMC是國家成立的他現在變成下來草房草地比如說台中市政府的年開債14戶每戶2700萬100封以上的標書他就高價搶標 |
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非常惡劣的示範台灣今年咧他怎麼下來去搶這樣的標五月第二次標售12戶他繼續炒房他帶頭養地炒房台灣今年現在已經被外面他的形象非常不好 |
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他是公家的,他的董事叫施俊齊,當過經國會主委。跟委員報告,台灣今年他當時成立確實為了要處理公股銀行的不良債權。那其實這個部分,他是有很多平價住宅的出售。那上次的高雄那個土地的部分也已經詳細說明。 |
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賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25人、委員賴慧琳等25 |
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主席再給我一小小的,我就,好,你們兩個都請回。金管會今天哪一個副局長的人?政經局。那個部長請回,部長請回。三副局長。謝謝委員。我覺得有一個小問題喔。台廣紅啊,狂稱巴菲特買回台積電股票。金管會說最重關10年,結果呢?結果側文呢? |
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道歉!我都覺得這不夠啊!你們能不能去查他沒有違反政交法155條市場炒作有沒有?你會不會把他移送? |
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這部分我們會有我們的程序什麼時候決定這個我們會在最快的時間那政交所會配合這整個齊交所查的資料他整個合併之後綜合考量這個一看這個是一個很因為很多網紅都發這樣的一個文章我覺得這個你們要趕快去處理是的才能夠遏止這樣的外風了了解了解謝謝謝謝委員資料後補喔是出面的補充好謝謝 |
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接著請郭國文、郭昭瑋質詢主席有請莊部長請莊部長 |
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委員好那個部長那個我們最近的這個房屋薪資佔比齁其實有逐年下降的趨勢齁最主要我們都是想要針對普羅大眾來減輕他的負擔包括我們今年開始試用有關於列舉扣除額房屋房屋房租扣除額的部分從列舉扣除改成特別扣除額的這個部分齁也希望達到這個目標 |
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但是上一次你們在評估這些內容當中都還有寫到有一關可能會影響到稅差損多少錢可是今年的這個報告當中這稅差損的部分你們都沒有寫只有寫到說租稅公平、租證簡化等原則通盤檢查 |
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我是想說後續今天是有詢答後續如果條文在討論的時候能夠具體的寫出到底稅差損害多少這個部長我給你做一個提醒那同時我提醒你一下你上次提到這一個有關這個扣除額的這個部分部長你說減稅會減到30億 |
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副副副 |
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梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬 |
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在房客那因為他報這個扣除額那所以相關的一個租屋的資料當然我們就理解那當然會促使我們的房東能夠是列報所謂的租金收入另外呢目前我們的房屋稅條例也修正了然後對於有出租的話他所適用的房屋稅的稅率也比沒有出租空置的情況下會下降所以這個部分對房對房屋所有權來說他誠實的去 |
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姚珠珠珠珠珠珠珠珠珠珠 |
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公益出租人的部分他的房屋稅還是適用有自用住宅版本因為他的所得的部分也可以每個月一萬五千塊可以免稅非公益出租的部分是不是有其他類似一種特色自首的條款去思考一下部長另外一個部分 |
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今天呢提到有關於這個長照的這個部分的扣除為了這個提升我認為是有提升的必要提升的依據是什麼呢因為過往我們長照2.0的不付的補助金額是12萬接下來呢總統當選的賴清德先生他是提出一個所謂的長照3.0也就是說他這個補助金額已經提高到18萬我們是不是能夠比照這個一般的行情大概是36萬 |
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賴主席賴主席賴主席賴主席 |
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委員報告那因為對長照這個部分委員跟黨團都非常的一個重視都有提出各種不同的版本我想這個涉及到這個所得稅裡面所有的相關扣除額都有相關的建議我想這個部分我們來通盤的演繹在維護財政穩健的情況下這不是從財政稅政的穩健而已還要考慮到政策啦 |
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總共夯不啷噹加起來你看以稅收的影響你12萬的部分也不過12億你變18萬的部分應該也大概18億不過是6億之多而已啊是是是謝謝委員的指教這政府的一個誠意長照3.0800億都在花了你怎麼差這6億呢是是對不對對對長照其實要各個面向除了稅之外也有其他的對還有一個可能性是政府真的都適用在把這個呢扣除的部分呢比照所得稅法第五條之一啊把它準用於啊 |
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有這個按照這個依照所得的水準基本生活的變動情形每幾年評估一次的可能性,把它納入啦。因為目前只有四項而已嘛。包括身心障礙的特別扣除也是如納入四項之中其中之一。長照這個長期的一個政策,長期的一個福利政策應該也要比照納入,你的看法怎麼樣? |
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委員這個建議我們會一併納入演議。這個部分其實應該可以作為思考,不然我們長照政策是一個很重要的國家政策。接下來本席要請教於您,有關於當初的部分,金管會還有部分的券商業者,他們希望常態化,我問一下部長你的態度怎麼樣? |
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呃,我想這個部分當沖降稅、減半降稅這個部分成為常態化可能跟納保法的規定不合,因為租稅優惠一點時間。那你如果不想要常態化,你有沒有可能希望正常化?呃,正常化?什麼叫常態化跟正常化?就是沒有減半啊,就是正常化啊。 |
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那我想這個部分金管會已經有評估對於這個股市交易的動能我現在問你不是要問金管會好不好部長你不要代替金管會回答這裡面當然跟股市的交易動能是有關係的那另外要怎麼樣的股市的交易好我們現在談股市的交易當初就是因為拍板定案的時候在105年度的時候才987億嘛就是要達到造勢的功能嘛 |
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後來第一年的時候1544億嘛,延長第一年,第一次延長的時候就變2698億嘛。現在前兩年已經超過3000億,到今年的第一季為止的日均量,3月日均量已經變5863億了。那我請問你一下,這個造勢的功能,目標有沒有達成? |
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呃,這個部分當然因為股市的交易能量那麼大,除了當沖降稅之外,還有其他的因素啦,不是只有他這個因素啦。所以說已經達成了嘛,造勢已經有達成效果了嘛。造勢已經達成效果,你是不是應該就是退居,退居變成是正常化啦?你怎麼不敢講呢?噢,這個部分我們會一定來審慎的考量了。第一次延長三年,第二次延長三年,現在要延長五年,這跟常態化有什麼差別?他以後再跟你延長個十年, |
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那不是就常態化了嗎?你不是說你反對常態化嗎?再下去就變常態化了,不是嗎?對啊,是啊是啊,對不對?這個就是把特效藥當成保健食品再吃啊!嘿啦! |
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明明是偷消藥材、包裝保健食品政府都一直在鼓勵說那個要長期投資結果呢是鼓勵短期投機啊就變這樣子啊整個政府為什麼會這樣子部長我去查一查我知道原因啦你為什麼為什麼你這樣子笑你這樣子看起來沒有很堅決的反對不想要回到正常化的原因我去算過嘛把這個證交所估計的資料齁我把它算出來 |
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曾教授當中的價差從2021、2022、2023總共當初的價差第一年690億、第二年變372億、第三年變504億看起來這價差好像不錯 |
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可是你仔細看,政交稅的部分我們推估起來,第一年568億,第二年347億、38億。這個政交稅的這個抽稅就高達1297億。第一個好到政府,第二個好到誰?好到手續費的券商。券商抽頭多少?第一年557億,第二年330億,第三年362億。加起來也將近1300億。 |
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結果整個淨收益的結果全部都miles整個股民產賠980億這種推估的結果這推估的結果我再算全體的券商這三年加起來憨不啷噹第一年1050億第二年387億第三年558億大概接近2000億 |
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好到哪?好到券商啊!所以這些券商當然希望什麼?當然希望常態化啊!結果呢政府呢也是抽頭之一啊!當然不是部長你抽頭啦!但是都好到政府結果這些年輕人這些少年股神呢一一沉入股海當中每一個都是韭菜當通條款根本是韭菜條款嘛!割韭菜條款嘛! |
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部長我再問你一次你希望常態化你不希望常態化那你是不是希望正常化 |
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我想委員您剛剛講的也確實是有一個這個面向存在的情況那我想我們都會審慎的評估對於整個股市股、證券市場的交易量這個部分我們會再做評估的是就是說他你就看到這些稅收你在三海財政部立場你就想要多增加一點稅收啊對啊 |
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可是你每年的這個超徵的稅金剩餘增加那麼多?越多你為困擾而已啊,越多立法院問你啊,對不對?不是嗎?你的稅收目標都已經達成啊,你還有需要這個造勢的這種增加出來的稅收嗎?結果這個稅收收了越多啊,韭菜被割了越多啊,年輕人的怨氣越重啊。 |
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這個是我們也要考量的事對啊 這沒有錯啊政府設計一個機制讓年輕人來這邊當所謂他們夢想中的少年古城結果後來就變成韭菜一一跌入古海當中不但如此啊養成一個短期投資的一個投資行為之外還變成啊每天都要專注那些行情大盤 |
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工作表現怎麼會順利?對不對?也會影響到個人的作息。政府有這麼缺稅金嗎?部長。我想政府不是從稅收這個部分來考量的。我想我們不是單純從稅收的面向來考量。因為不是單純從稅收的面向的話,你應該好好考量一下,好好考量一下,大聲的跟金管會的這個主委講。 |
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國家無欠這錢。財政部最近的業績都不錯啦。都抄手了啦。不需要啦。你就跟他講券商賺飽飽了啦。已經賺了兩千億了啦。不需要靠這個啦。所以說ETF的大賣啦。不是嗎? |
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呃對今天最近吧ETF所以我希望部長你有一定程度的發言權你不要回去給我評估當內部在做這個政策討論的時候勇於表達立場可不可以呃會的委員的意見我們一定會表達謝謝委員再請賴委員賴委員 |
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謝謝主席。有請財政部部長、收入署署長、還有我們長照師、專委、王專委。 |
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委員好部長早安我想今天你的報告裡頭我們看到很多的委員都是在提那個列舉那個扣除額的一個增加那我在這裡我想請教那個長照司司那個王專員 |
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這個為什麼這麼多的一個委員這麼多的一個委員他其實在在乎的是錢的問題可是我今天我的角度比較不一樣我認為就是說這個胡老筆跟申報筆不成正筆當然這個部長你看到了這個不成正筆你當然知道原因為什麼申報的戶數僅是5% |
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那是表示大家都不用長照還是說標準太高那我想就是說市長應該來回應這一個問題到底我們整個長照的一個撫養是不是就是說這個這個標準是不是太嚴苛了呢 |
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莊委應該是這麼說我們目前可以申報這個扣除額的部分只要是家裡有那個聘僱外勞或者是說他有使用我們長照給支付的部分或者是住宿在機構這樣子的部分都可以去做這個扣除額的申報那剛剛知道啊我現在只是在問你就是你個人你在這個領域裡頭你有看到了就是說整個長照他每個月其實他簡單的講如果我們家裡頭有一個長照老人他可能需要用到了 |
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賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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跟委員報告因為主要現在國人大部分就是以這個標準扣除額來做使用那因為這是列舉扣除額那目前因為我們就是他這個部分的話我們的一般的民眾如果他是用列舉的部分才會使用到這個特別扣除額 |
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有沒有太嚴苛了呢?有沒有太嚴苛了呢?我只是要問你的專業你認為有沒有太嚴苛呢?一般我們現在在這個標準上面應該是沒有太過於嚴苛沒有太嚴苛?你認為還好?應該涵蓋多數使用長照服務的對象 |
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當然是用在長照的對象啊,你在回答什麼啦?專委,你在回答什麼啦?是不是從八樓到九樓你就換了一個腦袋呢?怎麼到這個地方是這樣的一個回答啦?表示就是說,連你是一個專委你都是這樣的回答了 |
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好部長這個看起來你的責任更重大了跟委員報告先委員關心這個長照的一個扣除額部分跟委員報告長照他是屬於特別扣除額所以他不是屬於列舉扣除額那只要他符合 |
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衛福部相關的規定的話那他就可以申請這個長照的特別扣除那委員這邊提到的一個比例的問題我想先講就是說就分母的部分因為是總申報戶數那分子是申報這個長照特別扣除那但是因為每一個家戶所以部長這個原因剛才郭博文委員在講的就是說 |
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賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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蔣子德一個增加的時候,我們其實都沒有就是去調整到,就是我們的那個通盤。現在就是要提醒你就是說,我們是不是用比較不同的一個另類的一個思考,在這個長照裡頭,我們怎麼樣來照顧這些老人,怎麼樣讓這些要照顧,我們這些付薪水的要照顧老人,這些人 |
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這群人也可以就是說隨著通盤的調整,我們這樣的一個工具給他做這樣的一個調整啊。是,我知道你這樣為合不合理啊?目前,因為目前並沒有隨著CPI的調整,我想委員這樣的建議我們會納入一併來研議的,把它就是說未來可以隨從 |
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類似身心障礙的一個特別扣除而來一起來做調整。我想這個部分委員的建議我們會一併納入考量。是。是。是。所以我覺得說這個是一個非常合理也就是說非常務實我們看待這個問題的真正的一個他需要的一個需要面。這樣子才有辦法真正的就是解決長照的這個問題。我們不管就是說 |
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這個時候就是在賴副總統他的宣誓就是長照他是800億還是未來有很多委員已經喊到1000億的那我覺得說我們應該正式就是通盤應該把他一樣就是放進來那一樣的去參考的話你會比較落實 |
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是,謝謝委員這個建議那在長照是許多面向那稅是其中的一個項目那是我想衛福部這邊對於長照的相關的一些補貼、支應、輔助都有一些支出的一些 |
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郭文貴等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人 |
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學前特別扣除額在今年的年初的已經公布新的修正我們把學前特別扣除額的金額已經大幅提高不僅是在所得稅優化之前其實只有2萬塊後來大幅提高到12萬那在今年修法的時候把第一個孩子就是15萬就6歲以下的一個第一個孩子15萬那第二個孩子以後的都是22萬5千元都有做大幅的一些調整了 |
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所以相對的我們也知道就是說少子化子這個問題非常的嚴重所以這個學校創出了我們也希望就是說藉由鼓勵的方式好 謝謝 謝謝委員 那接著跟那個專委你可以請回了那接著跟部長討論就是說台灣三大方案跟公共建設 |
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賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等23 |
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可以不可以藉由就是PVP的一個模式政府去購買服務然後政府不用付錢那政府也不用舉債又可以就是有大量的一個公共的一個建設一個投資然後地方的一個就是民間的一個油資也不會那個掉到就是草房裡頭去那是不是有更合理的一個方式呢你認為呢 |
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謝謝委員我想民間我們也很希望民間的資金能夠透進入到公共建設然後讓我們的公共建設可以加速的完成讓民眾可以享受到更好的公共服務那比如說您這邊提到的社宅那我們的促參法修正已經把社宅納入了這個公共所謂促參法可以適用的一個項目而且它如果是屬於重大公共建設的話還可以享受相關的租稅優惠至於委員所提到政府 |
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郭文貴等23人等24人等25人等26人等28人等30人等31人等32人等34人等35人等36人等37人等38人等39人等40人等41人等42人等45人等46人等47人等48人等49人等49人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50 |
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7823.129 |
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寬寬的花錢,不要一下子這個財務負擔太重。但是我們這個部分是因為它沒有自償性,有些公共服務並沒有自償性,所以由民間經營然後政府去購買。當然它要符合一個好的服務。如果它沒有自償性的話,如果我們要透過就是整個立法還是我們整個稅法的一個改變,讓這個民間更多的一個錢,我們把它就是把它 |
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7845.299 |
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我們現在不喜歡他我們把錢換到他們把錢換到黃地產裡頭去我們可不可能把錢鎖在這個公社裡頭那這樣子的話他有合理的一個報酬然後又有就是說一個非常好的一個那個稅負的一個優惠是不是有可能有這樣的一個機會呢 |
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委員這個提示非常的好也就是說我們吸引民間的資金進來要給他誘因那給他誘因的話有關稅負的減免裡面在促參法裡面就有相關的比如說他的銀索稅銀索稅還有那個 |
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還有那個關稅也可以減免他要進行相關的建設所需要的設備的話關稅可以減免然後地價稅跟房屋稅也有相關的減免的一些規定所以在稅賦上有一些優惠那另外呢我們也會擴大一些這個案源也就是說對於政府購買公共服務的部分我們也會去做政策性的評估哪一些有必要性而且急迫性的而且政府來民間來做比政府做的更好我們就把這些項目給他提出來 |
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7901.351 |
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賴慧琪等23人、委員賴慧琪等25人、委員賴慧琪等25人、委員賴慧琪等25人、委員賴慧琪等25人、委員賴慧琪等25人、委員賴慧琪等25人、委員賴慧琪等25人、委員 |
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7916.207 |
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7921.809 |
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委員報告對於我們那個條例就是資金匯回條例裡面實質匯回的金額大概有3351億那進行國內的實質投資的有1625億所以在國內的投資非常的大那當然我們也希望這些匯回的金額 |
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7936.235 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
7943.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員賴慧琳等16人、委員 |
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還是有些人在買ETF?是啊,這個都是一個他們的投資。那它又有一個股價的一個風險,如果我們把這些錢導到了公共的一個建設的話,那你認為這樣不好嗎?好。會很好啊。很好。很好?對,很好。我們就跟委員講一樣,把這個資金能夠投入到公共建設,所以我們要擴大案源,提出更多的投資標的,那我們也會辦招商大會, |
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8016.097 |
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把相關的投資的一些標的會在我們的我們今年大概6月還是7月會辦招商大會然後讓大家知道有什麼樣的公共建設可以投資7月才辦招商大會現在是4月嘛那要我們收集為什麼要辦到那個在7月呢520之後是不是會有一個變數呢不是啦那個我們要把案源收集而且一定是在今年的下半年跟明年上半年可以推出的案子那只會推出兩個場次嗎 |
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8043.804 |
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呃一個場次但是我們還有後續我想一個場次是太少我們都已經知道償戶移民了民間的油資這麼多那我想部長你是一個積極有作為的部長我們應該是要非常有積極性的來處理這些問題我們把更多的一個油資投資在這個公共的建設裡頭那也希望就是說本席在這裡要求就是財政部 |
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| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
李慧琼議員 |
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8079.127 |
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怎麼樣導入公共建設的一個解決的方法。謝謝部長、謝謝委員、謝謝委員的指教。下一位質詢請李燕秀、李委員。莊部長。 |
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委員好部長早安4月3號這一場大地震我想震出了很多的問題在財政部這邊我們確實也有相關的策略跟陰影在媒體上我也都看到就是有關於我們災害損失的稅捐減免的部分這一次除了花蓮是6級以上之外其他地區也都4到5級所以其實是全國都有大大小小的災情那有關我們稅捐的 |
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8158.673 |
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檢稅跟檢免的部分明年5月就要報所得稅時我們就要列取相關可以扣除額這個部分我有在媒體上看到但是我們國稅局發布的新聞當中特別強調災害發生後的30天之內就要跟轄區的稅爭機關辦理我知道這個是根據我們稅捐法相關的規定但是 |
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8187.774 |
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三十天之內就要做這個相關的申請跟辦理以花蓮來說我相信非常困難不要說以花蓮來說現在全國各地都在缺工跟缺顏料有些民眾跟我陳情說想要貨比三家想要來報個價沒有人來報價現在隨便找一家來報價他可能兩三個月之後才能來做你要下個月緊急來做他可能又要再加錢 |
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所以現在的規範跟規定我覺得30天已經過時因為現在台灣有缺工跟物料上漲的問題那全國的災區其實現在都在調度一些資源所以民眾現在面臨的狀況是無工可修無料可教的窘境 |
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那現在光是修立即要修可能又要加價一兩個月到底他會是什麼樣的價錢他根本沒有辦法估了價錢到最後拿到了帳單的價錢是不一樣的部長我說到這邊你能理解嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
李慧琼等19人、委員賴慧琼等19人、委員賴慧琼等19人、委員賴慧琼等19人、委員賴慧琼等19人、委員賴慧琼等19人、委員 |
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8270.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
二月六號美濃大地震當時是張山政院長當時的財政部長是張勝和他有針對於國稅局延長寄出各項稅單包括減免的時間申請延長為三個月包括九二一的大地震2009年莫克拉風災還有美濃大地震當時我們都有延長申報所以針對今年我們的申報目前還是規劃在一個月 |
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有沒有機會放寬?跟委員報告好像委員非常關心這一次的各地區的一個災害那在花蓮地區呢我們的北區國稅局已經讓他們延長為三個月不再是一個月不再是一個月那部長不是有一個專人去輔導對 |
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花蓮以外地區民眾可能也需要一些比較長的時間。包括有一些社區的地下室都有大的裂縫,現在要找供水電來修來認證,那客戶要出多少錢,他都可能延長到一兩個月之後。 |
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8314.541 |
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我相信這種狀況其實你非常清楚,台北市也有好幾棟。是,那我想這樣子好不好,那是如果有,我們可以,這些就是說他有這個災損他可以先來報,金額是可以晚一點報,因為他先告訴我們說有這樣的一個災損情形,比如說照片啊,或者是這個,我覺得這個部分要延長為三個月,我覺得我們可以再通盤考量,是不是全部地區我們再來通盤考量,好嗎? |
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梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、梁美芬、 |
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8351.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
8351.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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8390.661 |
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應該要做更完整的思考。然後要把也能夠細緻的一些更詳細的說明,讓民眾知道怎麼樣來申報。好,謝謝部長的答覆。好,那我第二個問題就要回到今天的議題的處理。我們今天提的是稅法修法的問題,這是特別強調到特別扣除額的部分。 |
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割除額的部分其實我們基本上政府的課稅是課稅的基礎其實扣掉免稅跟扣除額的部分就是其實從所得稅的金額部分但是我們免稅跟扣除額的部分其實我們強調的就是民眾的生存必要的費用跟最低的限度那我們目前的扣除額其實在長照的特別扣除額的部分是每一年每個人是扣除12萬 |
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| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
部長今天所有很多委員有提不同的版本我看到你的回應是你都不贊成答案是你都不贊成嘛 |
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8450.238 |
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我想委員因為各委員還有黨團都提出了有關長照這個部分的特別扣除而金額各不相同那我想這個部分我們必須要做通盤的考量然後也要看維持維護財政的一個穩健的情況下來做考量你當然跟委員報告這個長照這個部長沒關係因為我今天時間有限我先請問你以目前扣除12萬 |
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你覺得是不是一個合理的數字我們如果光看這個數字的話也許大家會覺得不符合實際但是我們知道長照的朋友們他事實上他也是一個身心障礙者那身心障礙者他其實也有特別扣除大概21萬8千部長部長我們要提的是其實是照顧身心失能者每個人扣除了對對對你知道照顧一個身心以現在嫂子話來說我的小孩未來要照顧 |
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爺爺奶奶外公外婆爸爸媽媽每一個人可能有6、7個老人要負擔每一個接下來的小孩子我們下一代的小孩子可能都有這麼大的負擔我覺得以幾個數字來說包括平均現在照顧花費每一個人平均花費就要21923塊 |
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8524.072 |
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更何況包括這個照顧關懷總會他們接下來的數字其實包括照顧下一張我們看下一張包括邀請顧用本級看護要32,973塊顧用外級看護要29,191塊然後你如果有機會你可以申請到住宿的話住宿的話那每一個月是24,411塊所以我講這些數字這些問題以後你我都會面臨到這些問題 |
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8558.994 |
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你也非常清楚如果是現行我們要去住的話它對於我們的下一代來說它就是一個負擔所以我才會說12萬它其實不是一個合理的數字所以我覺得我們在討論這些議題的時候不是只去考量到稅期的損失 |
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8560.339 |
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8588.538 |
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你是財政部部長但是你也是行政院整個團隊當中的一份子我覺得政府的角度在思考這些事情的時候不是只考慮到稅基應該站在如何從實際跟稅基當中跟人民實際的狀況當中取得一個更完美的平衡點部長所以我要強調的是你的12萬是不合理的我們應該更站在人民苦民所苦的角度上去處理這些議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
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所以我不希望我從目前至少我看到的數字是你都反對這些數字包括今天提出來各式各樣的版本 |
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所以我期待的是我們的政府其實是關注人民生活的而不是不去管人民死活我只考慮到人民稅基不要忘記雖然你是財政部部長你也是整個行政團隊當中的一份子我們強調說我們是一個民主國家我們是一個全民政府所以我希望在討論長照扣除了這件事情我覺得應該更站在人民的思考點去思考我們高齡化社會之後 |
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我們都要去思考這些事情因為接下來長輩的照顧會越來越多而且這些負擔費用通膨之後只會越來越高我希望部長在考慮這個議案的時候12萬應該要提高它絕對不是一個合理的數字 |
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呃、委員我、我、我也要再說明一下這個12萬好這個情況然後但是我們認為長照的部分當然這個金額可以再來做討論也就各個版本都有我們來來再做通盤的考量但是長照這件事情呃不是只有稅在減免上可以讓他們得到更好的照顧我想政府在各方面的配合的措施上也是有的我想各部會我們都會去持續我想跟委員要說說你了但是我覺得他是一個很重要的誘因我覺得各部會都應該對 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
8676.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
8692.159 |
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要去做更多的思考你這邊也是大家都互相推來推去的時候就什麼都沒有不是這樣那因為其實如果說他原來就是屬於比如說經濟弱勢的話他根本沒有要交所得稅如果你把這個地方提高對他來說沒有什麼利益其實對於一個壽星階級白領階級對他來說這些都是費用他可以省的稅他可以省掉對他來說都是一點每一點對他來說都是非常重要的部長我要強調這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
8705.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
8705.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
現在質詢請王世堅、王偉銘 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
8733.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
8737.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
謝謝主席我請部長請莊部長委員好部長那個我們從民國80年修了這個所得稅法到現在33年沒有修正那現在我們財政部在 |
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8760.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
8770.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
院長他們要求指示下我知道你們現在有在研擬我們要來做一些修正也做一些在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
8773.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
8788.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
所得稅條整上面對全民所得稅的調整你們現在已經在做那現在的標準根據過去的標準而言齁我說實在話實在是金額不高啦那我先簡單問你說誒部長從2022、2023這兩年來通貨膨脹通膨都超過2%啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
8798.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
8822.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
但是我們財政部明知道為什麼這麼晚才來說調整免稅額為什麼已經通膨了這好幾年那你們今年才來要言商說要調整免稅額這是不是緩不濟急啊是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
8824.091 |
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8850.111 |
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委員我想您這提示的是然後因為在目前的稅法的規定是如果說距離上一次調整這個金額的部分然後累積上漲CPI上漲到3%的時候就要按照這個實際調漲的幅度CPI實際調漲的幅度來調漲所謂的免稅額跟扣除額那當然委員提示意思就是說那每年都有上漲那為什麼不每年調那我想這個部分我們是因為到一個目前的稅法是這樣規定的 |
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8851.872 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
8857.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
你們是當事者你們很清楚嘛院長在今年吶兩個月前他提的這個施政報告裡面他裡面就講了啊他說要因應現在物價的上漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
8868.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
8886.099 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
喔!要他我們整體政府我們會來考量要趕快來降低這個對壽星階層他們要繳稅的部分那院長言者尊尊不諱聽者渺渺啦你們很那樣像我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
8891.452 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
8918.862 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
欸進到立法院我一聽到說要調整他報告有很高興我認為你們不但調整而且會在今年我想說欸這個是你們財良權你們就可以做的沒想到你們現在一推四五六說啊這個要所得稅法下去修正啊那現在修正好修正欸轉不轉你們現在修正這個我四個字形容杯水車薪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
8919.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
8930.108 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
你若照現在你們的修正方法十年來你修正多少而已我念一下十年來齁你們從上一次106年條從免稅額從八萬五條到八萬八條三千然後到111年條第二次條從八萬八條到九萬二條四千 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
8949.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
8968.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
今年你們打算調的也是從九萬二調到九萬七二才調五千啦所以這十年下來每一次都調三千到五千十年下來總共調多少而已十年下來總共調一萬兩千塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
8972.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
8987.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
這從八萬五條一萬兩千塊總共啊十年來只調了14%部長我相信你對現在物價漲成什麼樣很清楚十年來啊民生物價調整啊的漲幅啊大概四成啊超過四成你從一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
8994.278 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
9013.309 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
我們生土小民每一天會用到的我比方說滷肉飯、雞排、牛肉麵這些小字珍珠奶茶這漲幅啊平均大概四成以上我相信大概我們普羅大眾都感受到啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
9014.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
9040.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
結果長超過4成我們條14%而且最高的這一次條5000塊的這一次還要明年才能實現我覺得就我講的嘛你這樣子的調整八個字緩不濟急杯水車薪所以我認為要大幅度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
9042.593 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
9058.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
陳建仁院長在他的施政報告裡面他談到的就是這種大幅度的大刀闊斧的不是這麼這麼小心眼的做那部長你也很清楚啊這幾年來啊政府做得到嗎?絕對做得到光這三年啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
9066.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
9094.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
光這三年我就講一百一十年一百一十一年一百一十二年就好光這三年我們政府超收的稅金平均吶每年超收四千億每年超收四千億一百零九年欸一百一十年四千零三十四一百一十一年四千九百五十一今年吶 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
9096.021 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
9100.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
欸欸去年3617億平均啊4000億以上三年啊超收一兆2500億欸部長我以後我們壽星階層我以說我們能夠幫助他們加位他們我就算一千萬位壽星的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
9120.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
9136.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
需要政府來體恤他們的話一千萬位民眾每年少收他兩萬元所得稅也才兩千億不是嗎那你一年超收四千億你做得到嗎政府做得到不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
9139.132 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
9153.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
對政府而言只是要做不做而已那這幾年來超收稅金我還不講更早先前幾年喔107年108年雖然超收的不怎麼多也都超收欸107年897億108年超收621億 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
9160.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
9168.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
那這些很好這表示蔡總統領導的我們整體政府的表現是好的所以我們經濟成長拜經濟成長之事我們政府這八年來超收了稅金這是對可是經濟成長的果實應該全民共享不是嗎應該全民共享啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
9186.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
9198.796 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
那這樣普羅大眾、升斗小民、壽星階層就應該直接受惠於政府在稅務上面對他們的擁惠嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
9200.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
9204.837 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
不是這樣嗎?部長你的看法呢?謝謝委員把資料收集得非常完整我想第一個我們的實徵數就實際收的稅數超過的數字事實上是超過預算數是超過預算數並不是所謂的超收也沒有所謂的超徵是超過預算數那第二個部分呢我想我們的稅收的一個良好情形我們也會在呈現在稅出部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
9226.586 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
9248.961 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
如果以稅出的結構來看其實我們的社會福利支出佔了總預算裡面的稅出佔了27%所以稅收好的話相對政府可以做更多的福國利民的事情所以我們在稅出部分社福支出是最高的第二高的是教育文化的支出那這個部分都是讓這個好的稅收讓大家可以想那至於有關稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
9251.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
9275.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
其實你準備的答詢資料也很齊備啦齁我看這些數字你都倒背如流啦確實確實我們社福這支出確實包括我們應該在教育上的這一部分的增加確實這個都確實沒錯可是直接可以讓我們普羅大眾受惠的就是從稅金 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
9277.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
9293.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
的免除上面不是這樣子嗎?我舉一份民意調查好了。輔大做的。輔仁大學做的民意調查好後我簡單講三點結論。他說有九成的民眾有感到物價上漲。七成的民眾已經認為說這個物價的漲幅已經嚴重影響到他們的生活。那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
9308.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
9329.361 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
還有一個結論有八成的民眾對政府意志物價上漲這個部分不滿八成的民眾不滿政府到目前為止所做的意志物價上漲的一些做法所以我個人看法當然啦意志物價上漲不只是你們最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
9330.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
9347.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
中央銀行、主計處這些都大家要一起共同來針對這一部分來研商但是我認為最直接可以加惠普羅大眾、加惠壽星階層、加惠升斗小民的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
9347.961 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
9372.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
立刻從稅金上面去優惠去寬減這樣才是對的而且這是政府做得到的因為我們經濟成長因為我們超收這麼多稅金所以政府做得到經濟成長的果實應該讓全民共享尤其是讓最辛苦的壽星階層不是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
9373.891 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
9395.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
是的在那個薪資所得特別扣除額裡面我們其實也都會隨著物價指數調整讓薪資所得的可以減輕這個負擔那委員所提的涉及到免稅額還有扣除額等等我想這個部分大家的建議都非常多我們都一定把它拿來考量讓民眾的這個需要負擔租稅的負擔能夠做一個合理化是 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
9396.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
9404.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
莊副長,因為這件事情我認為刻不容緩,是不是你特別要交代這個負稅署宋署長,這個部分是不是快速,最好一個禮拜內能夠給我們一些好的答覆,好不好?一個禮拜內。一個禮拜,刻不容緩,520就要拍畢業照了,不是嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
9417.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
9420.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
那我們再來發言兩位,就休息十分鐘。下一位發言請顏寬恆、顏委員質詢。 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
9452.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
9456.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
呃主席呃主席我想請財政部莊部長莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
9462.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
9482.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
委員好部長好部長今天審查的加值型非加值型年稅法那行政院主要是修訂一些名詞那增加電子發票的這些名稱名詞的修訂本期沒有什麼意見那我相信立法院也會同意但是跨黨派的委員們提案修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
9483.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
9507.6 |
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家職刑、非家職刑因為稅法第八條針對女性生理期不只要接受生理期帶來的不是那也比男性多增加一筆購買生理期費用這些物品的費用所以請教部長說財政部目前的評估如何會不會支持就是說特別針對女性生理期的用品來做一個免稅的一個處置 |
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委員報告謝謝委員對於女性的一個一個關心然後對女性這個生理期之間的不是來做一個關懷我想這個部分剛剛我們也提到了因為目前來說在國際的一個案例裡面我們也看到了大部分的國家對於女性生理用品的 |
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委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴士葆等16人、委員賴 |
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教育文化這個部分那沒有對個別的產品對他的營業稅來給予免納那我們認為呢其實有其他更好的方式讓我們的婦女朋友能能夠得到這方面的一個補助比如說以免費贈送的或者是兌換券的方式 |
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比從這個營業稅裡面來去做免徵更有實質的效益因為這個營業稅是涵蓋在它的售價裡面如果說我們免納了可是這個減徵的這個利益並沒有反映在這個售價上那消費者他其實根本就沒有獲得這個免納營業稅的一個好處那相反的是等於以政府的稅收來補貼生產或者是銷售的廠商或者營業人 |
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那所以我們認為說以其他的方式可能對婦女朋友來說能夠獲得的幫助是可以更大的而相對的比較這個以免納營業稅其實他未必能夠獲得實質的一個利益,不像這個是我們主要的一個說法那你剛剛說的其他的方式說用贈送的方式那你有開始在準備嗎? |
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我想這個部分因為是屬於社會福利的部分我覺得也可以多重的一個多元的一個方式來減輕這個婦女朋友的一個負擔你們這一份報告書裡面有提到就是說考量到這些沒有把減稅的利益全數反映在這些商品的售價所以剛剛有提到說你擔心的部分 |
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那所以他沒有實質的收益,而且可能會讓國庫每年有大概3.8億的稅收的這個損失。啊所以其實你這樣就怕就不敢做你知道,我是說是不是說現在你也沒有拒絕,那也沒有說就反對,那你想要用其他的方式,那其他方式計畫是不是已經開始在設計了,那另外就是說會不會在520之後這個就會來通過,會來扣 |
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審查本院委員會議中﹖ |
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支持於否我認為這個修法是進步的因為在不少國家都意識到這個生理期不平等的現象所以也取消了生理用品的一個營業稅我認為說我們國家跟進這也是對於女權的重視 |
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我想委員提案都是對於女權的一個重視部長也支持那我再接著就是說所得稅法第五條規定說免稅額每日消費者物價指數較上次調漲年度之指數上漲累計達到3%按上漲程度來調整這個3%當時立法的時空這個環境背景是什麼部長可不可以說明一下 |
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呃,我以為您是提到免稅額在CPI上的調整。對對對對。對,那這個部分。超過3%的部分。超過3%的部分我們就會做調整,而且按照實質的CPI的調整的幅度來做免稅額的調整,而且標準扣除額以及身心障礙特別扣除額,還有薪資所得特別扣除額都會隨著CPI來做調整,是的。對啊,那我這邊齁,呃,兩次,我們兩次的調整,呃, |
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上上次調整是106年度然後111年度適用之平均消費者物價指數與106年度適用之指數相較上漲了4.17%那再來就是上一次是在111年度那113年度適用之平均消費者物價指數與111年度的指數相較上漲了5.5%已經達到這個調整的標準所以按照 |
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這個上漲程度調整我要表達是說最近這兩次的調整一次是4.17然後相距五年一次是相距兩年然後呢是5.5%那兩次都有超過所得稅法規定的3%那有沒有可能說針對這個3%的規定來進行調整不要說就是3%是過去 |
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那能夠在未來每年的免稅額的合定能夠及時的跟上現在的物價指數尤其現在是萬物這個物價飛漲的年代反應更及時讓人民更有感可不可以 |
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委員報告當您的意思希望每年條但是每年條可能在作業上我們可能要考慮但是基本生活費是每年條的基本生活費是每年按照物價指數在調整如果用什麼用那個中位數 |
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中位數所得60%再算,所以基本生活費是每年再調。如果它的免稅額跟扣除額加起來,它能扣除的數字低於基本生活費的話,事實上這個差額是還可以再補的,所以基本生活費是每年都會再調整。是用所,對不對,署長講的60%來計算的,對。 |
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好,那我想這個部分還要再加油啦,因為其實竹林調整這是符合現在的需求。是,謝謝,謝謝委員的指教。不要因為說會增加一些這個執行上的困難而就把它烘焙掉。是,是,是,謝謝委員。那另外再提到我們現在地震的議題,因為4月3號台灣發生規模7.2的地震,那最嚴重的是在花蓮。那其實像我們今天早上上台北的時候, |
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監督監督監督 |
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損失金額15萬以下可憑檢查機關或村里長的證明以書面的審核不需要到現場勘查這部分但是你要知道過去15萬可以做比較多的事情那現在的15萬搞不好一面牆都沒辦法做啦而且我有去了解就是說這15萬的審查這個免審查的這項規定是在哪一年制定的部長你知道嗎 |
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你還記得嗎?87年我告訴你民國87年已經26年沒有動過了那這26年我們的現在的整個 |
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吳嘉等23人等24人等25人等26人等28人等30人等31人等32人等34人等35人等35人等36人等37人等38人等39人等40人等40人等45人等45人等46人等47人等48人等49人等49人等50人等50人等50人等50人等49人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50人等50 |
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是謝謝委員我想這個部分對花蓮地區申報這個有關災害損失的部分已經從一個月調整為三個月把時間拉長那第二個對於這個部分呢災損的部分我們是重寬、重塑、重優而且要重減的方式那我們在北區國稅局在花蓮地區呢他採取了非常多元的方式包含跟村里長或村里幹事等等一起以及我們自己的同仁下去輔導受災戶做相關的一些 |
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一些存證以及申請文件的一個書寫這個部分我們都可以去做那至於委員提到就是說這個金額是不是要調整我想這個部分我們也可以來思考看看這個金額是不是讓我們的程序能夠更簡化因為相對我想委員提的就是你把金額提高以後那金額以下的他的程序就可以更為簡化我想目的是這樣這個部分我們可以來思考對那在花蓮地區我們是盡全力的來做 |
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李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼 |
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目前正在訪中的這個美國財政部長葉倫他在上週五有提到說美國財政部一直跟日本、英國還有歐洲國家進行類似的金融災害模擬但是美國跟中國大陸大陸目前為止都沒有進行過這樣的演練沒有進行過這樣的演練但是這一次大型銀行倒閉的演習是華盛頓跟北京改善對話經濟對話的一個具體例子那請教部長 |
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那這件事你掌握的有沒有更具體的可不可以告訴我們?跟委員報告因為我手邊沒有這個相關的資料而且金融災害可能涉及到金管會的部分對那不管是國際貨幣基金組織反洗錢或者是反恐怖主義融資這一些具體的意見的交換你認為美國會不會分享這些金融演習後的成果讓我們來參考? |
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這個部分我不是很清楚,對。好,謝謝,謝謝。是,謝謝委員是。好,謝謝。 |
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好,接下來請羅明才委員質詢主席,個人出列席、官員等,隨刻請莊部長請莊部長副稅署、宋署長副稅署部長委員好4月3號打地震 |
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到現在目前為止,可以說傷亡非常的慘重。其實目前這個死了多少人?當然都在,就我所知花蓮地區吧,因為那個數字每天都在變,尤其在那個沙卡當步道裡面有蠻多的往生,以及在那個天王星的那個部分也有往生的民眾。我看到的畫面,觸目驚心。 |
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不只花蓮,其實在你前面的這個照片,看得到嗎?它是一整排的房子,在一瞬間,八戶全部坍塌。部長。 |
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我們是不是為這些受傷為這些死亡的我們親愛的民眾我們也一起默哀一下好啊好謝謝在這個默哀的這個同時啊我也提醒部長啊莫忘世上苦人多真的人民現在苦哈哈 |
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我在第一時間我到現場去看你看這個整個就這樣坍塌人民的生命財產一瞬間就化為烏有部長你剛才講所提到的都是花蓮花蓮我們責無旁貸全力支持因為他們都是我們的人民 |
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都是我們的同胞那部長那像安坑地區這一片災民是不是也比照花蓮的受災戶一起大家來關心他們是的那應該的應該的是可以齁都應該給予關懷對那請財務部多多協助是的會的我們一定會盡全力協助所以那請問這個標準都是一致的嗎 |
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呃基本上標準是一致但是我們一定會從寬來從幽的然後協助呃災民們看有什麼樣的呃租稅的一個 |
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珠穗的一個幫他們協助度過這個難關然後不管是減徵阿或等等那另外如果像我們還有提出像國有土地如果他是租國有土地的話那租金也可以往後也或者免繳因為他已經受損了嘛所以租金的部分還有使用補償金的部分都有一些減免或還交對我們的措施都會及時的跟上是在第一時間阿我就要拜託你支援財政部馬上過財產署是曾署長這邊嘛齁 |
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馬上就調度協調前面一整片空地供災民停車調度使用所以在這裡也代表我們災區謝謝財政部所做的第一時間的協助也謝謝委員告訴我們然後我們也可以及時的因應 |
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是 謝謝我們就是將心比心在同一個時間大家不分你我一起來做災禍重建的這個工作那我想請問部長現在這個愛心捐款大概已經捐了多少 |
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大約有兩幾個專戶吧。我想這個金額我手上並沒有具體的數字,但是應該我覺得都蠻踴躍的,都上億了。因為你位高權重,是不是麻煩協調一下,我們這一區 |
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這是安坑安泰路這附近的所有的這個災民啊也可以受到政府一點點關愛的眼神這比照花蓮的受災戶一樣能有一些實質上的幫助 |
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這個部分我想看看因為衛福部這邊也有一個專戶我不知道他們在運用上是不是有可以有一些可以幫助我們在不只是花蓮其他地區受災戶也可以獲得相關的補助是拜託協調一下是謝謝另外我們再來講今天的這些所得稅法17條這個15條等等的我在聽起來 |
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部長那你這裡面我覺得像謝龍介委員等所提的就對一些子女的照顧還有一些魯明哲賴士葆所提的委員所提的列舉扣除額的部分保險費列舉扣除額有的是健康檢查還有另外大家今天討論比較多的也是本席長期來最關心的其實我關心的 |
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這個區域啊我最關心的是年輕人的照顧老人的照顧女性的照顧以及學齡前小朋友的照顧我覺得這個都是非常重要的所以剛剛所提的長照特別扣主額的部分有人說提到可以12萬提高到36萬還有包括 |
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呃王振旭王委員所提的這是健康檢查每個人可以有1萬塊這些案子我覺得都非常好本席全部都支持那請問部長這些照顧人民好的這個修正條例你有沒有反對的 |
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我知道委員是充滿著愛心不管對老、少、婦女同胞都非常的關懷那有關相關的扣除額這個部分因為涉及到這個所得稅法裡面整個提案非常的多包含扣除額的項目、扣除額的金額或者是說它適用的範圍那委員都有非常多的建議我想這個部分財政部都會把它收納起來然後做一個通盤的考量 |
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因為這個部分涉及到整個國家財政的一個穩健以及我們的租稅公平還有財政收入跟積增的一個計劃等著我們會一起來通盤做考量我想各委員的提案都有他的一個非常好的用途你如果講這句話我可能考慮說我們就都不休息喔24小時開下去喔因為你不要每次來你對我們的態度都是說在研究在討論沒有一次是很大方的讓人 |
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我對你的印象其實就是很棒很認真但是唯一一點就是小氣你不要讓小氣部長的這幾個字深深的留在每個委員的腦海裡面這個不好啦你看你長得年輕貌美然後又是婀娜多姿又是專業為什麼 |
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莫把這些好的印象繼續把你愛心對人民的關懷就一次性的展現出來啊不要扭扭捏捏的這個是所有的委員不分黨派剛剛對長照對女性生理期的這個支持我聽半天沒有人反對啊那因為我站在 |
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這個坐在台上當召委其實我覺得很難過啊就是老百姓現在生活很痛苦啊所有的物價飆漲滷肉飯一碗25千漲到50塊人民啊已經被生活負擔的壓力壓到喘不過氣來包括本席所以特別希望說為這些年輕人為這些純古族 |
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來爭取一些對他們的關懷。那這個部份部長是不是也應該要支持一下啊? |
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委員一直都苦民所苦把這個對民眾的關懷都放在心上以及一直對行政機關有所督促那我想這個部分委員也提了一個提案也就是對於我們的鼓勵所得裡面的扣繳的比例還有扣繳金額的上限都做了一些建議修正那我們在報告裡面也提到了這個部分可能跟 |
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呃、原來所定的一個用意是不太一樣而且如果我們來看的話現在這個扣除額最高可以到8萬那這樣的話他最起碼可以有到94萬的鼓勵所得而且投資金額會到2000多萬所以我們認為這個金額其實已經蠻高而且在試用上的民眾並沒有都都能夠通通試用到那麼多他大概一般投資人都可以用到都沒有用到上限啦其實這個上限都已經夠用了 |
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這個存股族大概有多少人?人數有多少?現在台灣的年輕人他沒有什麼投資的管道,如果有的話可能就被詐騙。那要麼就是定存,定存利息又那麼低,那你叫這些年輕人怎麼辦? |
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就應該鼓勵他們多多來愛台灣買台股買好的股票然後跟他一生一世永相隨你現在看嘛舉例台積電你如果說20年前有這樣的一個存股的概念你就一直放著一直放著嘛等他配股配息那不就跟著經濟的成長然後享受經濟的紅利了嗎 |
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因為時間關係部長請多多站在民眾的立場多多從這個角度來出發更何況在下個月搞不好都看不到你了賴清德賴總統 |
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有沒有徵詢你?或者是說卓榮泰、中院長有沒有來諮詢過你?我想這個部分我就把我現在的工作做好其他我都沒有去多講那既然你這一句話你就趁你最後的一個月讓它發光發亮啊委員的指教拜託部長多做一點好的事情讓你的這些政績可以長留人心至少讓大家懷念你啊是 |
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好,謝謝委員指教 |
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繼續開會。先為質詢請李昆成、李委員。現場請恢復資訊。謝謝主席。我們請莊部長。請莊部長。 |
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委員好部長好這個上午9點的時候那我們的賴清德總統當選人宣布新的行政院院長這個我們的新的院長卓榮泰院長然後呢這個賴清德總統他對於這個卓榮泰主格他有這個三個期免 |
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那他說希望能夠達到這個AI的這個行動創新的內閣啦這個要聽取民意、解決瞑目、回應人民的期待那我希望說我們財政部也是朝這個方向走好不好 |
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謝謝委員 我們會照這個方向對啊 所以要照這個方向走所以很多委員對財政部的要求我剛剛聽了前面九位委員的對於財政部的一些要求對於修法上面的一些調整我看部長的態度好像是比較強硬一點點沒有達到說要聽取民意、解決瞑目回應人民期待這個方向來走 |
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馬文君,我一個一個來問好了。4月3號花蓮大地震,當然我們都表達哀悼之意。當然後續的重建工作也開始,陸陸續續開始。接下來又要再開始要報稅。4月3號的花蓮地震,我們財政部也在第一時間提醒說,受債戶要損失的一些稅捐要減免,要及時來申報。你們網站上面有寫到有9個稅捐抵免的申報。 |
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那除了這個營業稅還有餘熱稅之外呢其他的要求吼都是限期三十天這限期三十天那請問一下這部長因為這個大地震之後吼這個很多災民吼災後重建吼也需要一些時間那你又限期他三十天吼必須要申報完這個有沒有一些彈性寬限的一個期間吶 |
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呃,委員,呃,跟委員報告,我想這邊的30天其實對民眾尤其是花蓮地區的一個受到重大災害的可能時間不足,我們這個部分會來通案處理,把時間要延長。對,要延長嘛,因為你們現在除了這個營業稅跟娛樂稅這個是說這一個災後呢提出申請,其他7項都在災後內,30天捏,那你可以延長到多久啊? |
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我們我想國稅的部分是屬於我們的部分我們把它延長到90天3個月3個月我們想讓把時間拉得更長那讓民眾可以有比較寬裕的時間來處理這樣的事情我想這個部分我們剛剛已經討論過我們也會討論方向就在在瞻面的角度來想啦那30天實在是太緊了嘛那很多都還要再要重建很多這個搞不好這些政見什麼東西都還找不到咧所以可以延長到3個月嘛 |
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那那個再請問一下齁這次花蓮縣算是重災區齁那這個財政部的這個北區的國稅局花蓮分局呢這也受理這一個大量的這個災損的相關的申報齁那現在就是說齁你們在15萬以內的這個災損是用書面15萬以上是用這一個呃要你們去會刊是不是 |
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那這個可不可以做個調整啊?你們有這麼多能力來做這些會刊嗎?是,我想這個委員剛剛許多委員也都有提示我們這個部分一定要調整因為為什麼?第一個因為災害這一次蠻嚴重的那再加上我們應該要重寬、重數、重優那所以在金額上我們應該可以調高我覺得我們這個可以調高調高到多少?我們初步我想我們可以調高至少可以調高到30萬吧 |
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三十萬。這個其實可以再高一點啦。我是為了你們的人力著想啦。所以我是認為說其實是可以再高一點啦。 |
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好,那我們盡力了,我想這個部分至少我們調到30萬,我想第一個讓人力也可以負荷減少,讓民眾也可以減少一些紛擾,這個部分沒有人齁,我認為在這個時間齁,就相信人民那災民也是非常的,也是這個沒有人願意遇到這個災損 |
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那我覺得就是說在彼此信任的狀況之下讓這個災民能夠方便讓你們的人力也能夠在這個相關的負荷之內能夠把這個事情做好啦所以我是覺得30萬可以再往上再做調整好不好我想這個看實際的需要我想我們先這樣30萬然後我們也從寬、從素、從優來做出來你們有多少人在這個花蓮分局花蓮分局多少 |
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多少人?八十九個。那不可能八十九個都出去外面看啊,對不對?實際上去外面看的有多少人? |
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我們可以排成啦那其實我們在那個4月3號跟4月4號我們已經到就營業營業4月所得稅的部分我們已經到那個美倫工業區跟那個華光工業區那邊其實我們已經都先看完了那個人的部分對那個人的部分我們現在會再跟地方政府或村里幹事這邊來一起一起來會勘對啦我是覺得說就是齁讓災民方便啦也也不要讓你們的人齁太累啦 |
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這個剛剛也很多的委員都提到有關加值型及非加值型營業稅的第8條的修法有關女性的生理用品是不是能夠免稅當然我剛剛也聽了很多部長的回應那我只是說因為這個是幾乎是三黨的共識了那如果說三黨一致決定的話我只問這個部長在執行上面有什麼困難嗎? |
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報告委員主要的原因是因為我們現在營業稅是內涵在售價裡面所以我如果免的話假設他今天沒有去調那個售價最後的結果就是一樣沒有就是我們女性還是沒有得到減稅的利益有沒有那個調這樣售價是誰要去查 |
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這個除非你要特別有人去查價但是現在的重點是因為我們整個減稅是3.8億個別女性家可以得到的減稅利益可能是蠻小的但到最後為了這個我們特別要求廠商因為他要不給人減稅他要改程序我覺得不要去講說對個別的女性來講還是很少月經貧窮這四個字你有聽過嗎那我們講說因為我也是女性所以我可以理解女人何苦為難女人 |
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我絕對不會委員所以我只問,正如你剛剛的署長的答覆其實我都有聽我蠻專心聽的,你們的困難點在哪裡?稅收會減少,然後計政很不容易我只問說如果三黨一致就決定說要做的話你們在執行上會有困難嗎? |
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呃,我想,委員啊,呃,呃,因為這個齁,這個從這個2016年齁,其實在林全當院長的時候就開始講了,講了講講講,已經8年了欸。 |
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你如果說我們減稅以後能夠真的照顧到女性的女性朋友然後在生理用品的負擔可以減輕的話那當然值得但是問題是就是說在售價裡面就內涵了所以他會不會最後反映在全部的售價裡面我是說他如果沒有反映到售價那有另外一個機制來查嘛對不對這個就不是你們財政部了嘛對不對你們財政部就要處理這一個營業稅這部分嘛那到底這個你們比如說免稅之後那到底呢這個 |
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市場上有沒有把這個產品這個這個這個價格把它下降那又是這個其他齁這個其他單位去處理的事情了吧這個不是你們要去處理的吧話是這麼說但是政府其實是一體的齁那在機制上查價能夠真的落實讓女性 |
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朋友可以能夠享受到這樣的一個優惠我覺得當然是好但是我覺得查價機制上恐怕快因為我們也知道嘛都是各種品牌有各種不同的價格嘛他怎麼調的各種有的時候就突然調個一塊兩塊或十塊二十塊這樣調是不是他會跟你講說其他生產成本的提高等等那至於把營業稅這個部分免徵而能夠反映在這裡面這個部分可能在實務執行上確實是很難去辨識的 |
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所以部長還是認為說這一條沒辦法去修就對了我想這個要修要它的有效性在裡面因為達到我們真正的一個目的那是不是有其他的方式可以同樣有其他方式我也聽過了我只是提醒部長很難得這個三黨會有一致的共識尤其這個是在民生的議題上面我還是希望說 |
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部長的原則、困難點我當然知道但是希望你們要去做的是說怎麼樣去突破這個困難點那這樣子這個事情做起來就有意義了如果說有困難點大家又不做那當然我們就是原地踏步但是如果覺得說你能夠突破了那也造福這個女性那我認為說那就成功了 |
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雖然我不知道說520之後是不是還站在這邊但是我覺得那不重要那至少就是說在你任內的時候你能夠多做一些不管是對女性或是對全國老百姓都有益的事情我是認為說這個還是請這個部長還是要來考慮一下好不好因為這個是難得是三黨的共識那時間有限我看到很多同仁就是說所得稅法的這個修改 |
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那當然這個這個條這樣大家都很開心但是我也發現說這個我們所得稅法這個從這個32年1月30號制定之後到112年12月19號修訂了總共69次那尤其這個像第17條 |
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去年12月19日才修法條高幼兒學錢的特別扣除額還有房屋租金的支出特別扣除這個是去年修法113年今年適用要等到114年等於是明年申請才能夠享受所以現在我又看到說相關的提案又提出來了我是建議是不是說我們可以按照這一個所得稅法第五條的修正增訂這個誤條機制 |
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這個在第17條我們也徵定說扣除了的這個誤調機制那不要說這個每一次這個大家就是說對剛修完沒多久大家覺得說不夠還要繼續再降下去那至少是不是有一個機制還可以來做一個一個標準不要說這個每一年或是說每個會期只要修有關這個相關的這個所得稅法修正的時候明明去年才調它今年再調 |
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可不可以按照這個第五條我們增定一個五條機制?委員這個...委員的這個部分的建議我們一併納入演繹跟...一併納入演繹,是一併納入演繹所以會做,是不是?一併納入整體的演繹,是的好啊好,我就來做啦,啊不然這樣子齁這個每個委員當然是說當然希望說能夠稅能夠少繳當然是很好啊但是我認為要有一個機制在啦好不然就變成漫天喊價 |
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好不好?了解,謝謝,謝謝委員好,謝謝,謝謝部長,謝謝主席好,現在質詢,請黃珊珊,黃委員現在12點快到了齁,12點要肚子餓就可以邊用餐,謝謝好,請莊部長請莊部長 |
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委員好是部長今天這個報告是你親自核稿的嗎我有我都是自己看的 |
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有關這個我們不管是台灣民眾黨黨團還是我們立法院國民黨包括民進黨我們早上有幾個委員開了一個記者會包括外美林委員、莊瑞雄委員還有本席跟胡春城委員其實對於所謂加值型、非加值型的營業稅法第八條我們希望增列女性生理用品作為免稅那我看到你的報告其實我非常失望 |
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因為中央政府為了提倡性別平權在全國的學校還有公有場所都提供了免費生理用品目標就是要消滅所謂的月經貧窮這個政策已經實行上路可是你今天的報告跟中央的這個態度顯然有很大的差別甚至是自相矛盾的也就是說 |
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銀葉稅是所謂的消費稅但是在性便宜學上面它是一個性別政策的問題可是你把它當成一般的稅而且把它拿成跟嬰幼兒成人紙尿庫來類比我覺得非常不能不長你是女性你覺得呢? |
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呃跟委員報告哈我想性別平權是普世價值我們也是一直在追求的然後所以我的意思是這裡面有一點點性別意識嗎但是這裡面有一點點性別平權的概念嗎跟委員報告這個稅的部分要達到實際的一個效益才是真的有用的我的意思是稅我同意你們財政部有財政部的立場但是一個政務官所提出的報告裡面對於性別意識完全沒有他的內涵 |
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對於這個態度才是我覺得非常失望的地方也就是說今天提這個案大家不是在討論稅制而已而且有關所謂的營業稅在全世界性別平權提倡的國家現在已經有非常多的先進國家包括英國、全美、澳洲 |
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印度全免、美國非常多的州28個州全免、加拿大、愛爾蘭。你說對於所謂生理用品的營業稅,它其實是一個性別議題,它其實是一個對於女性,你跟我都是女性,我們沒有選擇,我們沒有辦法選擇我要用一輩子,將近一個一生要用40年的東西,它叫做基本的所謂的實質平等權。 |
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也就是大法官會議解釋571號所謂的平等是形式平等還有實質平等其實對於平等權的解釋很清楚要有合理的差別待遇的概念也就是說在今天這個稅法它只是第一步而已它只是讓一個沒有選擇一定要的東西它免除一頁稅而已 |
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但是目標是什麼目標是應該讓性別平權成為我們國家的政策方向而不是財政部的一句話你要去討論成人紙尿褲還有兒童的尿布這兩件事情讓我覺得非常的差異部長我們都是女性我希望這在上面是性別意識跟性別政策的問題不單單只是稅額的問題 |
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呃,跟委員報告,性別意識跟性別政策,我們絕對理解,也絕對尊崇,我想我們可以從財政部的相關的同仁裡面的……是,所以看到這個報告的時候,我非常的難過。我們沒有任何……我們沒有任何在性別上有一些不平等的……那我問一下,上個月行政院拍板大宗物資降稅,降到6月,所以…… |
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免除黃豆、小麥、玉米的營業稅是要用源頭來減輕國內業者營運的負擔所以中央常常可以用各種營業稅減免的方式來符合政策的目標同樣的我剛剛講中央政府已經在公有場館跟學校裡面提供免費生理用品來達到性別平權政策方向其實是一樣的 |
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也就是說稅額是一個手段向全世界宣示台灣進入先進國家之列這個稅額在立法院這一屆新的國會第一次看到一個三黨都提案而且內容都一樣基本上沒有爭議的法案我只想問財政部如果只是單純稅 |
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我們跟兩兆多的預算比起來這個稅為不足道但是他可以成為台灣進入所謂東亞領先的性別平權的國家會邁向一大步我希望他不是單單的來去跟尿布或者是成人紙尿褲來類比這個不應該是財政部的報告 |
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這是我今天的結論所以不管部長一個月後你還在不在這裡但是這個我希望財政部應該是走在跟著政府一起走向性別平權的路上大家要成為他的幫手而不是看到一個很奇怪的報告說你們要去討論一下衛生紙啊、承認紙尿布啊、尿片 |
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兒童尿片頂多2、3年長照需要成人紙尿褲大概也是2、3年頂多長一點7年但是女性生理用品要用40年這40年全台灣有一半的人口都在使用這樣的商品 |
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剛講的如果是廠商不降稅那是我們用另外的機制去限制他用另外的機制去要求他而不是在降稅的這條路上自己先把自己綁住了部長我的態度是我們希望這個案子財政部我相信也只是執行單位可能還是要等到院方有一定的方向但是我想立法院通過應該 |
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不困難所以財政部我希望你們也能夠往這個方向走第二個成為提倡性別平權是部長在你任內裡面以一個女性部長的態度我覺得你可以引領這個風騷的你同意嗎?謝謝委員的指教好所以部長所以我們如果修這個法案的話你們還是反對嗎? |
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呃我想在這裡面我們已經分析這樣的一個情形,我們希望達到真正的能夠婦女平等然後照顧我們女性的一個生理用品所需要的部分。我們還是希望看到的是一個領導女性領導的財政部他在性別平權的方向上面能夠跟著 |
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中央政府他們也想要推動的方向大家一起走這是第一個問題第二個部分就是今天很多的委員都提了所得稅法的修正包括扣除額的部分我想問一下我們現在合法第17條裡面有關房貸利息的扣除額還有房租的扣除額分別是多少 |
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房貸利息是30萬。房租扣除額呢?目前是18萬,再次列為特別扣除額。也就是說,台灣台北,我們不要說台北了,正常啦,一個普通的行政區,不只要認為一個小家庭他大概租金,一個月的租金大概要花費到多少? |
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在哪一個縣市?如果是台北市?台北市的話,一萬五到兩萬之間。在台北市目前我們所調查的社會住宅內政部的參考資料,小家庭每年花費的大概是30萬左右的租金支出。 |
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當然比現在的18萬高出很多那房貸利息的扣除額在12年之內其實已經反映物價調高過4次但是房租的扣除額從2000年到現在整整24年沒有做過任何的調漲去年調漲了一次也就是說 |
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防貸的扣除額一直在調漲防租的扣除額只調漲過一次而現在事實上我們小家庭每年平均的花費大概是30萬左右這18萬是不是也應該調一調了 |
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報告那個房貸的利息支出30萬並沒有調整過是這一次是這樣30萬那至於這個房屋租金支出18萬在當時訂這個金額的時候我們其實已經考慮過為什麼因為現在還有所謂的租金補貼所以這部分是扣除租金補貼以後的房屋租金支出的一個金額有一些小家庭不見得拿得到租金補貼啊你就是說 |
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今天如果大家要討論扣除額就應該符合現實的需求這18萬、30萬它的差距還是相當大所以我們也會希望提案能夠增加一些扣除額因為我們現在的稅收其實也都算是相當的穩定甚至還有超收的狀況所以部長兩件事情我覺得 |
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第一營業稅的部分在我們希望在委員會能夠順利的審議完成我們也希望他是第一個走出財政委員會走出立法院院會的第一個三讀的案子我相信這個在立法院的爭議非常的低第二個部分就是扣除的部分我相信解決人民現在生活上因為物價飆漲的辛苦另外他的稅金稅額以台灣現在的財政穩健其實有關扣除的部分應該審慎來思考 |
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以拜託部長在您任內成為第一個引領風騷、主張性別平權的財政部長。謝謝。謝委員。好,謝謝。好,下一位質詢請吳麗華委員。謝謝主席,有請部長。李中央部長。 |
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委員好部長好辛苦了齁我們在所得稅法的第17條可以看到災害損失呢可以在申報的時候列舉扣除所得稅額齁那他是需要舉證勘查特別是在我們的災損減免專區他有提到拍照純證減負文件 |
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那申請減免,而且是要在災後30天內報請轄區的稅捐機關來辦理。我想我們重大災害的發生,其實有很多我們無法預期的狀況。特別以4月3號的花蓮政災,我們可以看到它其實很多的道路 |
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賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、賴慎 |
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發生30天內要來去做申請檢面其實對他們來講很困難那另外我們在複稅署的申辦網站也可以看到他說收件之後會儘速處理並且以書面郵寄的方式回覆所以這個部分其實他安置在外那他要如何拿到這個書面的郵寄的東西所以特別想要請教一下部長 |
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關於申請災害損失勘查的一個時間限制那未來不知道有沒有什麼樣的規劃那另外關於書面答覆看起來也不符實際狀況所以有沒有要研議更貼近民眾需求的方式部長 |
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呃謝謝委員主指教那剛剛也有好幾位委員都有在這方面的指教那對於申請災害損失的這個申請時間呃我們原來說30天但我們現在一致延長到三個月就是90天讓民眾有比較寬鬆的時間可以來只有單紙這一次嗎 |
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賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
國稅局補充說明 |
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那另外請教一下部長就是關於這個所得稅的部分我們看到所得稅法第17條所謂的列舉扣除額跟特別扣除額想請教您一下可不可以簡單的講就是這兩者之間它的一個差別讓我們的一般民眾可以理解 |
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委員報告列舉扣除額裡面我們有一些項目然後他也有一些有一些是有上限的規定喔等等那他如果說他所能列舉的扣除額裡面如果比標準扣除額來的低的話那他可以直接適用標準扣除額因為列舉扣除額他有一些比證嘛對對對二則一嘛如果這那特別扣除額那是在標準扣除額或列舉扣除額之外你符合這樣的一個情況的話你就可以定額的去扣除這是特別扣除額的 |
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13056.44 |
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13072.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
呃一個方式那基本上都有一些呃特別扣除的裡面都有一些當政策目的比如說有呃少子化嗯就是人口老化是長照的部分或少子化就學齡前幼兒可以那個可以做一些特別扣除好那所以有這樣的一個差別性是好 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
13072.583 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
13072.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
沈淑儀委員長沈淑儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
13089.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
13110.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
長照的費用、身心殘障照顧的費用、子女教育的費用還有這種不可抗力的天然災害導致損失的這些費用他把它視為是特別保障生存所需那您覺得這樣子來看他會比較接近我國的列舉扣除額還是特別扣除額?就是他上面所列的這些在我們這邊對 |
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13118.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
13125.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
您是指說哪一個項目?就是剛才這五項呢?對,這五項是不是?那長照跟身心障礙、幼兒學前的是在特別扣除額。那醫療的部分以及天然災害損失是在列舉扣除額裡面。那您覺得他們為什麼沒有跟我們做同樣的分類? |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
13157.058 |
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呃他因為每一個國家他的稅制是不同的是好那他可能在結構上會有一些不同做分類那在我們這邊的話你這邊列舉扣除額的話比如說醫療的一些費用那現在目前醫療診所的一些費用都可以那你的金額如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
13157.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
13157.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
13177.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
13205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
像這些除序投資的身心障礙、教育學費、幼兒學錢費用、長照費用、房租支出費用看起來都是為了個人的生存權也就是說特別扣除額它不僅僅是我們財政部常常講的愛心半稅而是保障生存權所必須減免的一個項目所以我要再請教一下部長您覺得為何災害損失並不能列為特別扣除額 |
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| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
13217.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
在災害損失他第一個他就要按他實際的損失可以來可以來列保而且他也沒有上限那事實上在列舉扣除對他來說應該是比較有利但是他是保障生存權沒錯吧 |
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| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
13243.628 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
因為他是在這個生活裡面的一個重大的一個支出重大的支出所以在稅的裡面我們要讓他可以從所得裡面來做一個扣除所以如果他有受到什麼樣的一個損害的話他就按他實際損失的情況來列報來做扣除那會比特別扣除更好因為特別扣除他是一個定額的情況定額的情況如果他超過的話他就沒有辦法來列舉了這樣好不好就是 |
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13248.211 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
13269.609 |
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因為很多人關心這個部分特別是這一次的災損那我希望說是不是可以從各扣除目的的評估來評估這個災害損失改列特別扣除的一個可行性的一個報告可以嗎可以的我們再提書面報告那我會這樣提是因為我們在去年年底 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
13270.49 |
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13292.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
因為為了要提供低所得者的一個生存保障所以呢我們在去年底有特別修正一個就是租金列入特別扣除可是呢那個時候也有一個但書就是如果受扶養直系的親屬他在中華民國境內有房屋的就不得扣除 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
這種大家都說是一種通殺式的牌賦,因為我們知道很多很多人,因為他是今年生肖明年要生豹,很多人就會很憂慮,為什麼?因為很多的人他是偏鄉,他來自偏鄉,那家裡也有家屋, |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
13314.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
13341.395 |
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可是呢他必須在都會地區或者就業或者是就學他必須要來去做租屋所以想要請教一下部長您就是如果我們的父母祖父母他在自己的地方他有自由住宅可是他必須要在外地上班就學租屋那他是不是就不符合房屋租金支出的這個特別扣除 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
13343.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
13345.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼、李慧琼、 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
13354.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
13374.756 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
租金支出特別扣除對但是我的意思是說現在他就會面臨天人交戰啊因為你等於是告訴他說我撫養我這個60歲以上沒有工作的爸爸他有房子那或者是我不撫養他我要來報這個租金扣除其實 |
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13376.176 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
13402.404 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
這個對他來講恰當嗎那我現在的意思是說我們可不可以去看一下就是我們受撫養親屬是不是以他的租屋所在地的有房為限我是希望說財政部可以去邀集一些內政部以及相關的單位針對這種社會弱勢的情況去擬一些例外條款那是不是可以提供這樣的一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
13403.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
13424.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
對於委員這個地方這兩項訴求我們再來研議然後3個議員你提報告好那最後一個小問題因為我們今年生效明年申報啦那我是想知道說像這個租金特別扣除他要怎麼申報那財政部會不會跟內政部的租金補貼去自動做勾結我請署長來做這個實務面的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
13430.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
13430.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
黃國昌、黃委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
13469.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
13478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
謝謝主席,麻煩有請部長、國庫署署長以及負稅署宋署長委員好不好意思不是國庫署是國有財產署不好意思曾署長請曾署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
13495.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
13517.647 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
部長好、兩位署長好第一個問題是之前我在這邊公開檢舉足協根本沒有付球員比賽的費用那竟然出具不實的扣角平擔你們那個時候答應我要徹查說在4月2號以前他們會回覆給大家一個答案現在徹查的狀況如何委員是不是請北區國稅局局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
13522.043 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
13535.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
報告委員那個有關足球協會的那個案子他們在4月1號已經就他111年度那個沒有司機給付的出場費跟獎金的部分來更正扣繳評單這是更正就可以解決的問題嗎? |
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13537.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
13557.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
這是更正就可以解決的問題嗎?明明就是造假,用更正可以解決喔?不是,因為委員他更正之後,我們後面會去更正所得人的所得,那所得人的…對啊,我的問題是,這是擺明的造假欸,是更正就可以解決的喔?我就是擔心你們放水啊,所以我今天才繼續質詢啊。 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
13559.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
13576.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
這是造假欸要不要移送法辦還是配合著他用根證就可以解決這就是我今天的問題啊這個叫什麼根證啊明明沒付錢還出扣繳平單我再說一次啊這是刑事犯罪行為啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
13578.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
13598.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
可以用更正的喔?泡河放水嗎?不是委員因為他來更正扣角平單是要來更正所得人的所得所以他當然一定要來更正我先講嘛第一個那個扣角平單是不是業務上面製作的文書?是不是?是不是業務上面製作的文書?是嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
13603.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
13612.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
是嘛!有兩個問題耶!行使業務上面偽造、變造、內容不實的文書要不要移送法辦?還是用幹站就可以了?這就是我的問題啊!立場採清楚喔! |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
13624.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
13653.317 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
立場採清楚這個是我的問題要不要移送法辦還是要搭屁還是要護短不敢送可以這樣搞喔這個是我的問題請回答委員他我們有研究過就是因為他其實是可以開立扣繳平擔的人那他開錯了那當然他是明明沒有繳明明沒有給開出去叫開錯了 |
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13655.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
13681.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
所以你們是在泡河什麼?泡河護航?泡河放水喔?所以我就問你嘛!要不要移送法辦?公務員依照刑事訴訟法的規定發現有犯罪的事實有沒有告發的義務?法務部參事要不要上來協助一下?好啊!我們會後會來研究來看可不可以移送法辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
13685.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
13701.577 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
副理由給我書面,可以嗎?一個月之內,一個月之內,沒這麼複雜。下一個,來請教一下我們國有財產署的署長。因為我現在在追查一件事情,我覺得很奇怪,就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
13703.178 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
13714.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
國家要發展光電好好的做沒有人會反對但不能胡搞瞎搞好請署長稍微看一下2023年年底的時候雲林麥寮 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
13716.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
13736.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
地面他們要進行漁電共生有環境社會檢核依照我們現行的法規環境社會檢核要通過了以後才可以下去處理嘛好那我就看他們評估的範圍劃的土地我發現吼裡面有一大批 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
13737.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
13759.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
全部都是我們國有財產署的土土地。我現在請教第一個問題,國有財產署有沒有參加他們這個環境社會檢核發表意見?你們有沒有收到開會通知?因為你們是土地所有權人嘛。呃,跟委員報告齁,因為依照能源署的規定,他也要通知我們相關的地主到場。 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
13760.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
13786.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
對,你們有到場嗎?大部分的案件有些地方光電業者我們會派人一起過去。這個案子有到場嗎?還是你要回去查一下?這個案子我要瞭解一下。好,沒有關係。也跟委員報告。就請署長回去瞭解。有沒有派人去?發表的意見是什麼?這兩件事情請署長回去瞭解以後,一個禮拜用書面回覆我,可以嗎?可以。可以嗎?好。 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
13787.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
13810.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
那第二個是我後來抽了其中的三塊我就請教國有財產署這三塊地現在的狀態是什麼你們告訴我的是已經出租了那我問出租人是誰你們說不方便講沒有關係我基本上尊重今天沒有要跟你爭執這件事情但我要問的問題是你們是租給養殖戶還是租給光電業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
13815.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
13835.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
這個總可以講了吧這個沒有個資的問題啦你是租給養殖戶還是租給光電業者?個案我可能還是要了解一下啦不過跟委員報告我們是不會租用租的方式給光電業者因為光電業者如果要做地面型的太陽光電是要來跟我簽委託經營7A那委託經營7A的簽 |
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13839.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
13866.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
簽的這個要件是他已經經過能源署已經通過他的一個折射席可所以應該來講我初步判斷應該是租給漁民那漁民要不要租漁電共生我們會尊重陳租戶陳租戶如果今天不願意我們國產署不會勉強我們一定尊重我們的陳租戶非常的好但我今天要跟你講的是什麼請署長回去查我也相信啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
13883.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
你們不是租給光電業者因為要簽委託契約嘛好那你們是租給養殖戶但我現在問題就來了現在社會環境檢核都還沒有做完喔但我去現場看來署長你看一下這個是國有地 |
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13904.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
然後我按照你今天的說明跟合理的判斷應該是租給人進行養殖嘛這當初你們租出去是要養殖嘛來你署長看一下現況有沒有看到推土機在整地的捏那水吼 土打打打沒水啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
13914.903 |
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沒有水了水管被拔了還沒有通過檢核你們租給人家養殖結果現在有人在那邊整地 |
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13915.891 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
13937.156 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
署長,可以這樣搞嗎?呃,各位委員報告,如果他還沒有拿到任何的許可的部分,就是我們講餘電共生也是要經過能源署、能源衛部這邊。所有的問題是可以這樣搞嗎?如果還沒有核准是不可以的。是不可以的嗎?我們查核如果他確實有違規使用,我們會終止企業。好,請署長。 |
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13938.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
13953.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
下去查核、泰人下去查核搞清楚現況因為我上禮拜去看我昨天也去看我連續去看水車的乾乾的然後你們告訴我是租給人家那我現在就搞不清楚喔 |
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13983.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
可以違反法令在國有土地上這樣胡搞瞎搞嗎?這個是我的問題如果他不是做養殖使用但是可能我們也會去查明啦因為一般的養殖他會利用這個養殖的空隙會把水抽乾然後做池底的那個清理我想到底是做池底的清理還是做這個光電那我們查核的情形會跟委員做正式的回覆好一樣嘛一個禮拜請一個禮拜之內回覆好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
13987.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
13990.933 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
宏偉人財政部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
14013.256 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
14037.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
總部長委員好今天我想感謝我們召委特別排這個條文來做一個審議那我特別國民黨黨團我們有這個所得稅法的一個版本修正那以及本席這邊特別關心就是女性生理用品免徵營業稅那本席的這個提案也會在近期內就是送入這個一讀然後來做一個共同審查但 |
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14038.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
14053.442 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
其中我們先看一下今天的第7頁的報告我還是要強調我們報告裡面都一定要如實的給予相關的資料你這邊有特別提到說一般的這個 |
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14057.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
14077.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
大多、大多採加值營業稅的國家未對女性生理用品免徵營業稅。那我不確定說這個大多加值型營業稅國家你們是查哪一些部分。但本席特別去請同仁來去了解美國有些州沒有科 |
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14079.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
14093.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
衛生棉的營業稅、銷售稅視為生活必需用品有些州有科美國是有些州有科有些州沒科加拿大大部分的省份不對衛生棉及其他女性用品來徵收營業稅 |
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14095.762 |
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14114.336 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
歐盟、歐盟的成人國政策不一樣有些國家有科有些國家沒科所以其實並不是說大部分的甚至澳大利亞、澳洲說現在是有徵收消費稅但是政府有承諾未來要把它給豁免這個稅 |
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14116.658 |
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| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
換言之其實這是一個方向或說這可能是世界各國大家都陸續有在討論大家也注意到了女性跟男性很大的區別就是女性確實有生理用品的一個需求那某種程度上也大家也會覺得是說這個就是女性相對弱勢的地方 |
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14131.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
14154.411 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
14155.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
14174.371 |
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其實說實在沒有到太多但是對於個人來講尤其是女性因為這3.8億一定都是女生買嘛所以那等於是國人有一半以上然後又特定的這個年齡的一個族群所以其實對於特定年齡族群又是特定女性來講其實特別有感所以我現在再請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
14175.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
14182.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
如果說各國家其實也都有針對這個部分有去做討論不要去來徵收這個營業稅或是說銷售稅的話那我們這邊真的還是只能鐵板一塊嗎請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
14192.328 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
14207.538 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
謝謝委員那委員對我們報告裡面對於有關大多數國家這個部分那我們這邊提的是指實施加值型營業稅稅率的相關國家我剛講的美國加拿大澳大利亞歐盟有沒有包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
14209.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
14222.466 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
呃那個美國他不是屬於這個加值型營業稅吼那跟委員報告這部分我們也呃收集了相關資料英國他的稅率是百分之二十他目前是免免徵營業稅的哦對生理用品那澳洲他也是免徵英國免徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
14223.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
14227.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
英國免徵、澳洲10%、加拿大5%、其他如匈牙利、丹麥、瑞典、冰島、意大利、埃及、紐西蘭、中國大陸、日本、新加坡、泰國、越南、南韓、 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
14239.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
14264.182 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
都有徵加值型營業稅。這是我們所收集到國際協議案例。所以你的意思是說其他有些國家他雖然衛生用品免徵但是他的其他營業稅比較高是這個意思是不是?所以我們現在所以你第一個開宗明義講是說其實我們現在5%是比較低了所以等於是我們普遍所有的商品相對來講比較低所以說我們不特別針對哪個特定的產品 |
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14264.982 |
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14281.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
是這意思嗎?目前營業稅的架構營業稅法的架構是這樣第一個是5%我們比國際間比較低那第二個就是說在免徵的部分呢免納的部分在條文裡面我們列舉的是屬於政策性的一個一定的需要那沒有對單一的貨品單一的貨品去免納營業稅那這個部分對是所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
14286.312 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
14311.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
本席還是再次強調這個舊事論是我非常理性跟務實的今天我們針對因為這第十屆其實已經有提出過甚至跟之前可能也有很倡議那你們今天兩個理由一個理由是說有些大多數的這個價值型業稅的國家沒有沒有徵收但是本席也去找出其他國家有這樣的一個特例有這樣的一個案例美國、加拿大、澳大利亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
14312.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
14333.668 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
或是歐盟有相關國家再來第二個部分有講是說如果這通過的話可能嬰幼兒成人紙尿布也會比照辦理我覺得這可以討論啊如果說這樣的話是不是可以討論有沒有算過說嬰幼兒或是成人紙尿布我想必須用的成人紙尿布嬰幼兒一年稅收多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
14335.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
14354.635 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
呃這個部分我們那目前沒有我們沒有特別去做這個統計是啊那如果說這樣的話怎麼會不麥公一個政策方向我覺得不應該是說因為怕開了一個門然後怕後患無求如果說他是一個可以讓台灣社會更有討論的一個方向的話我覺得我們可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
14355.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
14373.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
那我也不會說禮盲的講是說啊你以後所有都比較辦理不是我們先開宗明義講說女性生理用品相對來講他是一個對於男性女性來講女性就比較弱勢他要必須支出的東西第二部分我認為說可以加強的地方在哪裡是 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
14374.839 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
14397.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
產品、廠商如果說真的被我們免除稅額的時候他有沒有實際反應到成本上?他有沒有降價?有沒有不要巧令民用變成是說我們變成是讓廠商賺了那個稅額的一個差別然後沒有實際的反應到女性消費者我覺得這個是比較重要的這也是應該是說如果修法的時候大家可以討論如果真的可以免除女性生理用品的這個稅額的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
14398.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
14406.356 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
那我們能不能立其他的條例或是相關的一個辦法來去要求廠商既然我沒有收這樣的一個稅額的話你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
14407.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
14431.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
瘦架就一定要再更低廉或是說要怎麼樣反應我覺得這應該是可以討論但絕對不是鐵板一塊是委員提出了一個重點也就是說我們在這邊所談到的部分就是說我們認為說我減徵這個生理用品的營業稅對不對當然因為委員很體恤我不是要幫廠商講話我也從來沒有打算要幫廠商講什麼我要的是要解決女性消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
14432.426 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
14459.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
的支出、負擔﹑對﹑能夠落實到婦女同胞的身上嘛對不對那如果說他沒有把售價下降的話相對的減稅的利益並沒有到我們真正的婦女同胞身上那所以這個部分變成要這個怎麼樣去查價怎麼樣去查價我想這個部分也確實是一個問題也就是委員所提到的一個重點最後一個部分如果說真的財政部這相關有沒有能不能找衛福部或者是教育部來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
14460.155 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
14478.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
假設我們每年女性生理用品的稅額差不多3.8億那能不能把這3.8億變成是一個專款專用的基金或者說給教育部或給衛福部就針對學校或者是貧窮低收入戶弱勢的女性他可以來提供女性生理用品 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
14480.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
14506.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
變成是說如果說我們真的沒有辦法從廠商源頭端來去減免這個稅額但我可以中低收入戶、弱勢的女性或是說各學校只要有需求的我就讓教育部有3.8億每年至少去購買生理用品能夠在各學校讓女性同學來去做索取或使用我覺得委員您提的這個是個非常務實的也就是說稅如果沒有辦法達到真正目的而是以其他的方式讓婦女同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
14506.357 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
14529.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、賴慎、賴慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
14529.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
14550.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
我們這一次討論的這個免徵營業稅的部分或者是說女性生理用品在教育部或是衛福部但是一起部會共同討論我希望是至少這3.8億專款專用如果說我們已經看到有這樣的一個裁員的話那是可以讓衛福部或是教育部來去做一個使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
14551.008 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
14571.102 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
我想就是怎麼樣落實照顧到婦女同胞可以拿到這個就是說減輕這個生理用品的支出那至於這個金額的部分要不要專款其實用計畫裡面來編稅出預算的話其實是一個方式部長我相信之後還會逐條我希望在逐條之前可以回去跟各同人也去研擬一下甚至能夠找衛福部或是教育部這邊來開會討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
14573.223 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
14592.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
在逐條的時候我一樣會提相關的我本期的版本以及我們會一起共同來討論那這個部分我們真的希望已經講了那麼久了讓國人能夠有更便利、更方便、安全的生活我們一起努力好不好謝謝部長謝謝現在執行請鄭天才政委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
14609.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
14621.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
主席、各位委員、有請部長。請莊部長。委員好。部長好。今天要跟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
14623.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
14624.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
林鄭月娥、林鄭月娥、林鄭月娥、林鄭月娥、林鄭月娥 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
14649.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
14672.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
然後這個第二項的部分的這個第四款受重大災害毀損面積佔整棟面積三成以上不及五成通常會開黃單。像這樣的這個我們防護稅第15條第三項規定防護稅開徵40日以前向當地主管機關申報。 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
14675.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
14704.842 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
那我們房屋稅房屋稅的這個第六條之一第一項課徵的房屋稅以每年二月之末日為納稅一日基準日由當地主管機關按房屋稅集資料核定以每年五月一日起至五月三十一日至一次徵收其課稅所屬期間為上一年七月一日起至當年六月三十日 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
14705.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
14734.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
所以今年五月以前就會收到也就是四月底大概就會收到這個房屋稅的稅單再去課徵七年七月一號到今年六月三十日所以我具體的建議好了具體的建議第一個房屋整個要重建的不能住了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
14735.647 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
14761.242 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
紅丹就不能住了。他從04、03那一天開始就不能住了。所以這個房屋稅的一個到底要怎麼計算。我的建議,具體的建議就是這一次的就不用繳。也就是去年7月1號到今年6月30號的就不要繳。就免繳。 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
14763.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
14770.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
本來就房子就沒有了嘛,就沒有了,本來就不能講。這個部分是不是可以往這方向去做解釋。 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
14773.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
14796.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
我想這個房屋稅因為是從去年的7月1號到今年的5月讓他們開單那現在這一次發生這樣的一個災變房屋稅要怎麼樣讓他能夠減輕我想這個部分我們第一個會跟花蓮縣政府這邊來再做一些研商讓他可以作業可以更好然後也可以減輕民眾的一個負擔對我具體的建議就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
14797.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
14815.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
李卓人等23人等24人等25人等26人等27人等28人等30人等31人等32人等34人等35人等36人等37人等38人等39人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等40人等 |
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| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
14845.153 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
另外再,我們可能再要做議事。往這方向去解釋。另外就是,因為我是拿921的政災災民重建,當初有定這個要點,來去做這個案例。當時購屋及住宅重建貸款,每戶最高350萬元,150萬以下免息,超過150萬,固定年利。當時, |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
14846.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
14863.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
這個事921民國88年現在已經超過20年以上了8898108超過20年以上了所以各方面的物價各方面也都不一樣了所以我的建議今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
14867.955 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
14882.204 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
林四、林三、地震、受災婦希望購屋及住宅重建貸款每戶最高,因為物價什麼都不一樣房價也不一樣啦所以應該要增加到一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
14883.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
14886.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
郭文貴等24人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
14903.991 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
14916.667 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
我想這個涉及到銀行就是金融事業的他們的一些相關規範也涉及到他的相關資金成本那我想在公股銀行的部分呢他們是配合災害防救法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
14917.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
14940.841 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
他已經以他自有資金來辦理多項天然災害的低利的一個融資方案。那我想這個部分的企業社會責任他們一定會盡的。那我們部裡面的網站也已經公告了相關的一個融資方案以及聯絡資訊,讓民眾可以來做一些洽詢。這個部分,這個如果並沒有特別的一個 |
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14943.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
14957.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
監製規定的時候,最好就是能夠去比照以前的,然後配合現在的物價、配合這個房價,能夠去增加。那至於私人、私立銀行的部分, |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
14958.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
14980.597 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
這個當然就是要政府要去協助補貼。政府去協助補貼。這個部分都可以去,你們可以去申請這個相關的災害的救助金,相關的這些災害復健各方面的經費行政院都有這個第二一備金或是災害準備金好不好。 |
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14982.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
14993.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
這一次當然有關相關災民的一個救濟這個部分行政院已經在匯總相關部已經匯總相關部會的相關的一些措施包含金融措施也在裡面盡量去支持謝謝謝謝委員謝謝下一位請楊瓊英楊委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
15009.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
15013.245 |
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謝主席、陽俊發言、邀請部長請莊部長委員好部長本期提了在我們的所得稅法裡頭的第17條那我希望你能夠支持那我們繼續來討論實質內容因為據國發會他推估我國呢在65歲以上的人口在2026年會突破20% |
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賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23人、委員賴慧琳等23 |
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林鄭月娥等23人、委員馬文君等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德等23人、委員賴慎德 |
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郭文貴等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25人等25 |
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都有需要照顧的所以我們就提出了所得稅法的第17條由原先的特別扣除了12萬來提升為24萬那本席認為這個應該要支持讓我們可以喘息一下請教部長你的看法 |
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謝謝委員、謝謝委員目前來說我們邁向高齡化的一個社會那確實家裡有需要照顧的老人確實負擔是重不管身心這個精神上也好經費上的那個經濟上的支出都比較重那現在來說長照的特別扣除是一年12萬 |
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委員和黨團都提出了相關的修正版本來調整這個金額。我想這個部分我們會一定納入考量來做一個通盤的研議。我想在這裡也跟委員報告一下,除了長照特別扣除額以外,現在所得稅制裡面對於身心障礙的特別扣除額也有大概21萬多。 |
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那如果再加上免稅額如果70歲以上還可以增加50%的情況下大概一位可以增加到可以扣除總額可以來說可以扣除到將接近50萬大概45萬的上下都可以扣除在所得稅裡面就家人有一位70歲以上各取所需的類別不一你本席不同意這樣子把它全部夯不啷噹都都在一起就本席所提出的部長你應該是可以認同 |
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應當是可以認同這個方向嘛 對不對我知道認同就是委員對於這個我們一個家庭的一個照顧的一個負擔確實會重我知道對確實嘛所以應該是適度要提高嘛對不對我想因為委員的方向應該是可以討論的嘛這個方向是可以討論的嘛而且是提高的討論嘛 |
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15229 |
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蔣麗芸、蔣麗芸、蔣麗芸、蔣麗芸 |
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那接下來本期也希望到時候真正討論的時候能夠得到你的同意我也希望啦我想我們草野白任何一個人都非常的確實迫切需要那接下來本期要請教403的花蓮大地震 |
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賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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請他們也一起來協助不管是在環繳本席或者是展言借款期限的協助讓他們可以喘口氣 |
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委員報告就非公股銀行的部分其實金管會他已經對於不管是我們公股的或是非公民營的銀行他已經有提出相關的金融機構的一些協助但是一定要落實喔當然要落實這個部分這個很重要接下來國產署跟財政部長在這邊我們討論一下 |
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我們現在已經盤點出活化國有地宜蘭的三星鄉20公頃臺東的池上72公頃左右要做試水溫來辦理要公開照標供氣液來照林這非常好但是本期要跟部長這邊來討論的就是說我們國有地照林標誌涉及到法令的修正還有林業的這個專業 |
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還有減量額度如何來換算這是相當複雜的所以你是不是有積極跟環境部來做討論他已經要標了那要怎麼計算請做說明 |
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賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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15390.658 |
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李卓人、李卓人、李卓人、李卓人 |
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所以我就是要提醒我們有這麼好的事辦一定務必要成功那跟相關單位一定要緊密結合好不好因為現在民眾說這要怎麼計算他們還是不清楚好不好你有一個方案請將書面資料給本席好嗎我們一起一定要將這個試水溫事辦成功好不好一起加油謝謝謝謝委員謝謝 |
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接下來請張雅琳張雅琳、張委員主席好那我們有請財政部部長林莊部長 |
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委員好部長好今天想要來跟那個部長討論有關於這個扣除額的部分就是說過去我們在那個標準扣除額是逐年的來提高今年可以扣除的費用從24點8萬調整到26點 |
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監督監督監督 |
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那在列舉扣除額裡面是有包含的捐贈保險費、醫藥、生產、災害損失跟購物的借款利息。那今天我就想要請教就是家長帶小孩去打小兒自費疫苗能不能成為這個列舉扣除額的醫藥及生產費用。我先說目前的規定是不行啦。 |
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那但是我想跟部長也討論一下就是說其實我們現在一直在鼓勵大家去施打疫苗嘛那世界這個疾管署也一直在講說那個一定要去打疫苗啊來提升自己的這個防禦力啊那其實也是一個公共衛生的一環那也可以來做減少這個重症跟死亡喔那我們一直在講預防勝於治療 |
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那其實當今天家長自己去自費打這個疫苗的時候其實他也是在降低整個國家的一些財政醫療的負擔那他也能夠幫助整個社區是更包含像這個長病毒喔長病毒只要一停一有長病毒小孩就要停課家長就要多花他額外的時間去照顧那其實也會影響到整個班一起來停課其實這整個影響性是非常大的尤其是在今年長病毒的這個 |
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人數是達到了10年來的最高點那我想請教如果我們今天看到這些案例身為父母他會不會去打腸病毒這支疫苗委員當然預防剩餘治療那對於有關那個傳染病的部分我們都希望能夠打疫苗然後讓 |
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賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、賴慧琳、 |
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像是輪狀病毒就三劑然後還有水痘疫苗然後你今天如果去醫療院所的時候他會再貼更多今天身為家長他看到他一定會打除了是照顧自己的小孩健康來說那他其實也是可以避免他可能其他的傳染病可能傳染到其他的小孩或是一些長輩可是小孩的自費疫苗這些都是家長自己在承擔而承擔的費用多高呢我們可以看一下這個整個的金額其實來到了我自己家種計算起來 |
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他已經是三萬七千多了。三萬七千多。如果他今天要再加打長病毒,就是三劑一萬兩千九百元。所以總金額,一個家長他生一個小孩,他就要負擔五萬多塊錢。那像我自己有三個小孩,等於我要負擔的金額是這麼的高欸。 |
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我在想啊就是說尤其像這場病毒它其中有一個就是我們現在講的這個七十一型是有一個非常高的一個病發症所以如果今天我們到底家長看到這個金額他到底要不要打他其實可能會擔憂可是如果我們今天可以讓他變成一個列舉的部分的話是不是可能可以增加這個施打的意願然後同時也可以增加我們整個社區的一個衛生公共衛生的一個防護那 |
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現在就有一個爭議點了到底小兒子非疫苗能不能報稅這個不管是在網路上面有民眾跟我反映或是我們過去在網路上面也有看到家長在這些相關的親子的網站上面留言詢問就是說到底這樣可不可以那國稅局之前一開始是說是可以的你可以列舉但是後來又說可能不行對不對那所以到底 |
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可不可以我們如果認定說這個過去我們都認定說這是醫療必須的我們才可以讓他列舉但是還是回到剛講的嘛預防生育治療那這一個部分我是希望說可以來跟部長溝通我們可不可以把小兒疫苗也納入這個列舉扣除我的醫藥及生產費用的範疇這個部長和署長認同嗎 |
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委員報告目前來說對於施打這個小兒疫苗部分並沒有在這個所謂醫藥費因為除非他這個疫苗是跟他的預防疫苗是跟他的後面的醫療行為是有關係的就可以但是預防但是 |
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我們今天如果有打這個預防疫苗其實就是在降低可能未來產生的一些相關的社會成本嘛可是這些成本不應該都由家長自己來吸收啊因為它等於是為了整個社區整個為了整個社會來去承擔了這樣子的一個費用嘛我們是不是可以往這個方向因為我想會使用的家長其實也不是很多啦這個稅損規模應該都是還好欸 |
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是不是可以往這個方向來去做努力呢?我想當然我們目前也有這個幼兒學錢特別扣除額那個金額在調高其實是在有相關的相關的孩子的一些支出裡面應該是涵蓋在這個整個學錢幼兒特別扣除額裡面如果要單項一項項列的話可能會 |
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蔣麗芸、蔣麗芸、蔣麗芸 |
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欸我想一下喔就我想說明一下我們雖然說我供非疫苗但是你可以看看自非疫苗洋洋灑灑就是這麼多就是有五萬多塊這麼這麼高的一個金額欸那把它放在列舉扣除額上面的因為你剛剛雖然說有誘餌的部分齁但是這個還是因為我們還是會選擇嘛它是要選從標準去扣還是要從列舉嘛那我只是想說我們其實這是一個宣示性的意義啦讓家長可以知道說政府其實是非常看重他們的這些 |
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審查本院議員羅明 |
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我想委員您這個建議的部分可能會跟法有關係我想這個您的建議我們納入一定就是在通盤研議的時候來做考量好了那我想問一下就這個部分的話我們大概什麼時候可以知道有一個進度呢?因為我還是蠻希望說五月報稅的季節我們就可以來納入五月報稅這個部分應該今年是絕對不可能的對 |
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因為就沒有這個項目可以放進去。好,那沒關係,我們就會後持續的討論這個部分,好嗎?謝謝。好,謝謝委員。好,謝謝。接下來質詢,請鍾嘉斌,鍾委員。 |
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好,主席、在場委員、先進、列席的政府機關市長、官員、會長、公眾夥伴、媒體記者女士先生有請我們莊部長跟複稅署的宋署長宋署長 |
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15967.352 |
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15996.097 |
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委員好部長好、署長好有沒有看到這張照片你注意到什麼本店免用統一發票我看到的是吃比瘦更有福你猜這是什麼這是一家餐廳好但是你看到重點了本店免用統一發票來我們今天的主題呢就是要說小店營業稅的查訂課徵落伍耗時營所稅、重所稅開發票一次解決好我們來看一下請問部長、署長有沒有在第一線查過小店的營業稅小朋友們營業人 |
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署長有沒有?我沒有去查過啊來,署長有沒有?沒有我是沒有查過但是我常常協助店家面對我們各地國稅局及分局他們相關的這些救濟好,來我們看一下那你知道他怎麼查的嗎?目前我們小貴模營業人你知道嗎?占我們全國的營業人多少?知道嗎?53萬家占我們全國登記有案的三分之一那你覺得他貢獻的營業稅多少呢? |
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16028.468 |
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16029.491 |
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不到37億只佔我們全部營業稅的0.8 |
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這麼多的小店家,你用什麼?我們稅務人員先啊,費用還原、分業查訂、課稅資料。好,不管。一般人看不懂,往下看。那你知道稅務人員是怎麼看的嗎?一般來講,我告訴你喔,因為我辦過啊,在疫情期間,我們有一個營業衝擊損失。為了要幫助他們,這些小店家可以申請一次4萬元。但是呢,必須證明什麼?營業有損失。你知道他們怎麼證明營業有損失嗎?欸? |
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副總統、副總統、副總統、副總統、副總統、副總統 |
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那個做營業登記後會去做稅籍登記對不對稅籍登記後你們的稅務人員就去看他到底有沒有達到了營業稅的一個小規模營業人20萬開發票的起徵點對不對那你們會根據什麼看他面積嘛這個面積很小大概一個月做不到20萬這個面積比較大你就可以看他約定是不是這樣子簡單講是不是這樣子署長是不是這樣 |
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是不是這樣子?你們怎麼認定他的營業額?委員你講的就是其中的一種,然後我們過去看他的評數。但是實際的營業狀況會有起伏嘛,對不對?所以大概每個月起起伏,有淡季、有旺季。請問你們所有人員可以常常去蘭花草一樣不時的去看顧嗎?你可以判斷他每個月的營業額,兩個月報一次營業額有沒有起伏,有沒有辦法做到呢? |
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不見得我直接幫你答了好再往下看那網購平台就另外講了網購平台呢你們是根據他信用卡他進貨銷貨那有沒有辦法去查出他到底網購他是不是屬於小規模營業人要怎麼認定他的營業稅稅營業稅的營業規模 |
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有困難。我以南區國稅局來直接告訴你答案。南區國稅局的狹內有將近11萬家小店家,就是為了20萬的,只有不到700個稅務員。你覺得他們有多少時間去跟小店家查核,每一段時間他的營業額有沒有達到20萬以上的規模,應該要開發票,還是他營業額下降,應該給他掃課這營業稅,有沒有辦法?能做得到嗎? |
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人力負荷上當然是以10萬加但是也不是每個月都去查嘛我當然知道啦你們連一年去一次恐怕都有困難為什麼因為你們每年要對這些小店家不是只有兩個月一次營業稅一年一度的營所稅跟種所稅還是要認定他要繳多少稅對不對是不是所以你們的人員還是要幫他算一下一年至少一次你認為這個小店家課程營業稅的耗費的比例人力成本符合嗎 |
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他的貢獻稅金不到0.8%他的店家規模佔了我們全國營業人三分之一你覺得怎麼樣簡正變名、減少你們的人力支出? |
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怎麼做?確實我們在我們會這個部分對起徵點的部分也目前正在檢討的那我告訴你一個很簡單的方法首先你們就一次查訂柯真取得三個資料只要他來做營利事業登記他申請稅籍你們就看一下如果他覺得他的規模應該超過20萬的不管他是吃比瘦更有福你就要叫他開發票對不對?開了發票他的營業稅、營所稅、眾所稅是不是就有發票來認定?是不是這樣子? |
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那如果他的營業規模未達20萬那他的營業額你很難估算嘛是不是這樣那你就開始思考囉你們要常常去看他未達20萬的營業額要找多少營業稅這個需求比較強還是基於他的營業成長他生意越做越好你去看他有沒有到達20萬的規模鼓勵他開發票是不是這樣子後者是不是比前者更符合我們徵稅的效益是不是部長 |
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所以我的建議就是說與其你的查訂課徵與其你耗費高的人力成本去積查他兩個月的營業稅他的營業額規模不如你就加上稅務輔導不定時的去看一下他如果到達20萬的規模鼓勵他開發票後面的營所稅、重所稅都一次解決你同不同意這樣的做法 |
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報告喔當時我們在實施加執行營業稅的時候就希望就是以開統一發票的方式來做但是我們考慮到小規模營業人事實上他會有一些開發票所需要一些成本比較高所以才用查訂稅額的方式那所以這個部分是有兩個兩個在這樣子在我再講一次你可能還沒有懂意思如果你讓他確定他的營業額超過20萬鼓勵他開發票了後面的營所稅跟眾所稅你還要不要花時間去估算他的營業額要不要 |
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不用了嘛,他的營業稅也很容易認定嘛但是如果他未達20萬你每次去看一看你是要去看說你48萬還是8萬還是你去看一看是看到說有沒有到達20萬請問哪一種比較符合你們稅務的健全 |
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你與其花時間去認定他會達20萬的營業規模的起起伏伏不如你好好的去認定他如果有到達20萬就輔導他開發票後者是不是比較符合我們徵稅跟人民的感受的效益 |
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所以我希望說請財政部針對小店營業稅的查訂課徵已經過時落伍了我希望你們對於小店家未達20萬營業規模的小店家你不要再用查訂課徵了該怎麼做我想我會再跟你們討論但是呢你針對營所稅、眾所稅、開發票一次並同查訂這個是不是比較容易 |
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委員您提出這樣的一個要求那涉及到成本效益分析是不是容許我們可以三個月內提出書面報告 |
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因為其實一個月後我們內閣就要改組了啦我希望比較有即時性啦我當然希望說未來的財政部呢您繼續領導這個你就可以用到這個書面報告不然也算是做一個沉積讓後期的人瞭解我們的要求一個月可不可以這個我們盡力的盡力做好謝謝謝謝主席謝謝部長謝謝署長 |
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黃婕黃委員不在謝一鳳謝委員不在張志倫張委員 |
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主席好、各位委員、各位官員、大家午安、大家好。我們是有請部長。請莊部長。 |
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委員您好部長辛苦了首先先跟部長報告一下本席是立法院現在唯一一位會計師之前做過會計師今天很開心有機會跟部長來請問一些事情首先要先請問部長就是說4月3號大地震 |
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沛琦等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人等19人 |
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來讓不管是營利事業或是個人來申請這個災害損失的部分我相信這是國人最重視的一個問題之一是不是可以請部長簡單分享一下就關於國人如何來不管是營利事業或是個人如何快速的來申請到這個災害損失的部分 |
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跟委員報對於災害損失在報稅的時候可以把它從所得裡面扣除那在這個部分我們的一定是從素從優從簡的方式來做來做那尤其在花蓮這個部分我們一旦那天4月3號之後我們的同仁立馬就到就去輔導 |
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副董、不管是產業也好或是一般人民也好,我們都去輔導他們去來申請有關災損。那在包含在那幾天連假的時候,我們北區國稅局、花蓮分局還有玉里基徵所也都是在做這樣的工作,而且協助他們來做這個申請。 |
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謝謝部長回答,部長回答得非常清楚。那我先就個人的部分跟您請問,個人的部分因為這個國稅局有一個的辨明措施有針對新台幣15萬以下的災損可以憑這個警察機關或村里長的證明就可以書面審查免於現場勘查,這樣這個方式是正確的嗎? |
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委員報告剛剛也有幾位委員也都提出了就是說這個15萬是不是好啦是不是10真的好啦然後我想這個部分委員這個簡報也提出了第一個我們跟委員報告就是說30天以內申請的部分我們現在已經通案要我們會延一把延長到3個月好謝謝這非常重要那第二個金額的部分勒 |
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15萬的部分我們也會來檢討,我們應該會把它拉高到比較高的金額。沒錯,因為也要拜託部長,你非常專業,因為大家知道現在整個很多的這個東西都變得非常的貴,有些遇到的災戶,整個車子不小心被砸到了,那這個費用都非常的高,因為為了要本席為了要減少這個財政部的人員的這個 |
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副賀、副賀亮。所以希望說這個金額可以提高至少到30萬。希望部長一定要考量。希望可以通過。第二個就是說常常我跟我也本身以前當會計師。常常跟很多的財務人員講說其實財務人員不是後勤組織。他可以創造很多的不可能。所以我常給很多財務人員就是很多的信心的鼓勵。接下來就是要跟部長請益德就是說 |
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這個全台灣現在老屋的數量非常的多我這邊有統計出來大概有非常多高將近六成是老屋那現在全台灣有推動老屋漸減的數量非常的低 |
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那我想請教部長就是因為現在這個大地震過後很多房子急需這個檢查老屋健檢的部分本席在這邊是不是可以跟部長請議說老屋健檢產生的費用是否可以放在列舉扣除我的災害損失中因為就受債務而言我的房子不是 |
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賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員賴士葆等20人、委員 |
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由這個稅務優惠、稅務減免的部分來推動全台灣的老屋漸減,有做一個這個業局扣除額的扣底部分。我覺得這部長你的回答要非常的這個重要啊。委員報告,老屋這件事情確實是大家在 |
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蔡英文、蔡英文、蔡英文、蔡英文、 |
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這非常重要我想這個部分內政部應該也會有非常多的相關的一些措施那至於要不要納入所謂的災害損失這個項目裡面我們是不是來研議一下看看這裡有沒有一些因果比如說它災害有些裂開了對不對要不要去做一些檢查看它會造成一些損害我想這個部分我們可以納入來考量 |
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好拜託部長因為這我認為是非常重要對全民非常的重要如果這個災害損失可以放在列舉扣除額裡面其實就本期瞭解側面瞭解一間老屋建檢的金額可能有時候高達10萬塊以上那是只是初檢而已那詳細的檢查可能會金額更高所以我希望說由財政部這邊如果來做個列舉扣除額的扣除的話 |
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其實我覺得是對全民是有這個誘因的啦那最後我再請教部長的就是說今天這個國民黨黨團提出了很多的不管是這個少子化少子化的這個長照特別扣除額的增加或者是大家所關心的這個老齡化的一些相關的扣除額請問一下部長這邊您今天有同意哪一項的扣除額或是我簡單問啦因為我剛剛聽到現在好像 |
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您沒有一件就是說願意提供出來的就是讓人民比較清稅便民的政策啦。那我想說先請教您說你520會不會繼續留任。這個問題不是我能夠回答的。謝謝我。那你是不是在聽你這樣的講法那我是不是說是不是今天的質詢喔。你有沒有認為是稅務方面哪一些是可以在減稅 |
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剪稅清明的一個部分。因為今天提出了這麼多的剪稅的方案,你有沒有哪一個是你認為是可以推行的?委員您很清楚,您很清楚這個所得稅的部分,我們所得稅制的優化在107年推動以來一直都朝著減輕民眾的一個租稅負擔,而且達到一個租稅公平,而且能夠維護我們財政的一個穩健這個目標。 |
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也做了很多扣除額的一個調整一直提高那今天委員相關17條的相關修正草案非常多其實對於17條的修正歷來都是各界的建議非常多關注很多包含他的項目他的額度以及適用的範圍歷來的建議都是非常多的每一屆都很多那我們都會在這個適當的時機把一併納入通盤的考量然後在剛剛所提的原則裡面來做通案的研議那比如說像今年 |
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年初剛通過的呃幼兒學銜特別扣除額金額也提高了適用的年齡也從5歲到6歲以及房屋租金特別扣除額也都也從列舉到所得到列特別扣除額我想這個部分都與時計進都在調整 |
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主席我在最後一段話齁就跟主席報告我本身我過去也是擔任會計師喔那當然說現在我們全國的國人覺得說經濟景氣不是這麼好可是稅負是非常的重那常常我就跟我們很多的民眾講齁其實會造成最大的問題就是物價上漲 |
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因為全台灣人民百姓沒有認為說台灣的經濟景氣有復甦或是變好的情形那如果稅負在這壓重的話其實人民如果感受到這樣的問題的話其實會造成物價的上漲就好像之前我們常聊的就是說現在可能外面去買一個這個排骨便當貴的一個要120塊貴的雞腿便當一個要150塊就像剛剛很多委員提到了這些這個 |
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小吃店都被要求要開發票所以我要拜託部長的部分就是說針對民眾現在不管是遇到地震遇到疫情過去疫情才剛復出最後遇到地震尤其兩岸觀光客沒有互相來訪台灣的整個環境最近也有一個新聞是花蓮的這個飯店業者 |
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這個大財源的一個部分,所以還是要拜託部長這邊可以苦民所苦好好來檢視說是不是可以有一些就是一些好的稅務政策讓全民有感,謝謝謝謝委員的指教,謝謝 |
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現在請蘇清泉蘇清泉蘇清泉雖然不在請邱志偉邱志偉邱志偉邱志偉委員不在請羅志強羅志強羅志強羅委員不在請蔡易宇蔡委員最後一位嗎?委員方言最後一位齁等一下處理臨時提案好壓軸啦來有請這個部長 |
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請莊部長。委員好。部長好。部長我想跟你聊一下這個境外資金的匯回專法。它是在2019年到2021年。那有開始鼓勵這一些台商或是國外的一些企業來資金回台。 |
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那在2023年欸大概實際匯匯的金額是3351億那國內的創造國內的投資是1757億那國庫的稅收也增加了292億那我想要先請教部長那你對這樣這一個專法所創造的這一些資金的回流那以你現在來回頭過去看 |
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你覺得這樣的成效你滿意嗎?委員是有關資金匯回的專法裡面希望就是說臺商能夠把在外面的資金匯回來然後做實質的投資那事實上也達到了一個效果然後在國內來說其實我們在疫情期間的經濟表現都非常好跟國內的投資的一個倡望是很有關聯的所以當時是鼓勵嘛第一年是匯回來的稅金大概一顆百分之八 |
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第二年、第一年後到第二年是百分之十,就是兩年的時間。那以部長你覺得依現在整個國際的情勢,那有可能再啟動一次這樣的一個專法的方式,再鼓勵更多的台商把資金回來台灣,繼續拚台灣的經濟嗎? |
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呃我想這個部分目前並沒有這樣的一個規劃是目前是沒有這樣規劃對對對好那我覺得這一個部分是可以去第一個啦就是過去曾經有過這樣的一個成績那未來是否要再啟動一次鼓勵境外資金回流這個我覺得部長可以討論看可以思考看看啦這是政府的一個整體政策的部分是好但是 |
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講回過頭,當時我們在訂定這個境外資金匯回的時候,事實上我們有設了這些資金用途的限制。那主要我們不希望當時在金銀專報的賣料,然後可能是投資在台灣的房地產,然後造成整個 |
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委員賴士葆等19人、委員賴士葆等19人、委員賴士葆等19人、委員賴士葆等19人、委員賴士葆等19人、委員 |
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17213.298 |
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第二項依前項第三款規定管理預用資資金應該自該資金存入外匯存款專戶之日起借滿五年使得提取三分之一借滿六年再得提取三分之一借滿七年得全部提取那我要跟部長講一個重點就是說以這個借滿五年的話那大概是什麼時候 |
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今年七月開始。今年七月嗎?我現在只是八月啦,所以今年七月。八月啦,對不起,八月。八月啦,今年八月就是屆滿五年了嘛。如果今年八月屆滿五年的話,部長你覺得這樣的話會得以提取三分之一,這樣會多少錢?我們大概看一下,大概預估是四十億。 |
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四十億而已嗎?就是第一個嘛,就五年的三分之一嘛,屆滿五年開始期許三分之一的部分嘛,對。那怎麼會只有四十億?你們當時匯回的金額是三千多億耶? |
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這個部分我們是不是請署長做一個說明好嗎?好。報告委員,因為他的申請之際未回是陸續,也就是兩年期間要陸續。今年會到期的事實上...我懂你的意思。你指的是今年嘛。對,今年到期。對,但是我們兩個講的是不一樣的觀念。我指的意思是說,從今年開始,八月開始陸續會到期。 |
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盧修慧、稻妻所以你可以想像的最起碼就有這個3300億的三分之一就是將近1000億的金額將會可以讓他們自由提取那我現在要呼籲的就是說這個1000億 |
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然後到了明年八月開始又有三分之一後年的八月開始又有另外的三分之一都陸續要到期了所以表示這裡的錢將會再進入台灣整個自由經濟的市場 |
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自由金流的一個市場裡面那這部分會造成怎樣的衝擊我想財政部有沒有邀集各部會事實上是不是要先做好一個盤整那做一些預先的因應跟委員報告那3000億裡面因為已經有1700多億已經做實質投資了當時的投資把它限定當時的實質投資是有做一些限定的就是說他必須要做 |
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做什麼證券全權專戶、委託專戶、從事金融投資。他說5%是自由運用、25%是做金融投資。但是在第五年開始就自由提取三分之一,就都主要用了。然後這個25%做金融投資,自然也沒有再限制了。所以自然會有比我應該這樣計算起來會比我說的一千億可能還要多一點。 |
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因為已經有些說實質投資了,他不是還在這個專戶裡面,所以這個專戶裡面已經要扣掉有關他進行實質投資的部分。 |
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好,扣掉實質投資,那還是有一定的金額嗎?當然還是有一定的金額,因為他就是陸續從他申請的日期五年內就陸續會到,陸續會到這些錢就會變自由的嘛,所以自由運用的,那我現在要呼籲的只是說當這些錢開始可以自由運用後,會不會造成另外一波的房價上漲? |
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這個我覺得財政部可能要思考一下。當然我不是說你要繼續每人寫很多,但是總是他這一些錢進來後,一定會有相當程度的衝擊啊。對房地產也好,對股市也好,對台灣的市場經濟,一定會有一定的一個衝擊出來。你們一定要防範於未然啊。是,了解。好不好?謝謝委員是。好,謝謝。好,謝謝。 |
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委員已經詢答完畢。現在處理臨時提案。請議事兩人宣讀。 |
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臨時提案三案。議案依據現行入境旅客攜帶行李物品,抱怨稅方辦法,旅客攜帶自用及家用行李物品、管制品及菸酒除外,總值在完稅價格二萬元以下免稅,為二萬元入境免稅額度乃於民國七十八年訂定,考量三十五年來消費者物價指數之成長,並參考鄰近國家、日本的 |
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入境免稅額度規定為20萬日元。原提案要求財政部檢討入境免稅額調整至新台幣4.2萬元。提案人羅明才賴士葆、林德福、黃珊珊、李燕秀 |
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第二案有鑒於403大地震撼動全台繼921地震之後25年來規模最大的地震正後至今超過700起余震除花蓮災區外全國各地皆有房屋工廠受損財政部提出減稅方案包含九大災害損失稅捐減免減免項目包括 |
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17521.823 |
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縱合所得稅、營利事業所得稅、營業稅、娛樂稅、貨物稅、菸酒稅、房屋稅、地價稅及使用牌照稅,幫助受災民眾減輕生活負擔,又縱合所得稅災害申報損失總金額在新台幣15萬元以下者, |
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可自行檢據損失清單及證明文件由國稅局書面審核。經查此項規定為民國87年制定,至今已然26年未經調整。原要求財政部將綜合所得稅災害申報損失總金額書面審核金額提高至30萬元與一週內向立法院財政委員會報告方案進度並公開致財政部官網以便民眾申請。 |
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17554.195 |
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林德福、羅明才、黃珊珊、賴士寶 |
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第三案本案委員王世堅等三人介於台灣通膨率已連年突破2%的警戒線且2023全年消費者物價指數年增率2.50%為15年次高2024年2月之消費者物價指數年增率已達到3.08%為19個月最高另據民間數據中心統計有高達9成民眾有感近期物價上漲加劇7成民眾認為 |
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烏價上漲已嚴重影響生活而今年4月又再調漲電價對民眾的日常生活無疑是雪上加霜在考量外界多有質疑主計總署對於消費者物價指數的抽樣失真 |
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17619.375 |
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臺灣真實的通膨率恐怕更高,原提案要求財政部與一個月內研議對個人綜合所得稅之免稅扣除額、科稅級距等,降低需消費者物價指數較上市調整年度之指數,上漲累計達百分之三以上之門檻,並提 |
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並提高調整金額單位以增加調整頻率及免稅額度,體恤民眾生活之不易。提案人王事件也屬人賴會員郭文。以上宣讀完畢。好,請協商。好,若干已經過協商,來請財政部宣讀第一案。 |
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第一案有沒有意見?修正過請第一案的話謝謝提案人召委同意文字做修正修正的文字就是案有的最後一句原提案要求財政部研議檢討入境免稅額調整至新台幣4.2萬元逗號並於兩個月內向立法院財政委員會提出書面報告句號以上好有沒有意見? |
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沒有意見的話,修正通過請問第二案,行政部門 |
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跟委員報告這邊第二案的部分我們也做了文字修正也請也經過提案委員的同意就從倒數第三行裡面原要求財政部研議就加兩個研議將這個綜合所得稅災害申報損失總金額的書面審核金額提高到30萬對沒動那在兩週內也就是原來的一週修正為兩週向立法院財政委員會 |
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提出書面報告。這個是文字修正。那至於後面的方案進度就刪除。將完整集檢化後的報備程序公開至財政部官網以便民眾申請。所以就做一些文字修正是。好,謝謝部長。所以30萬有沒有問題? |
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會議在那個書面報告裡面一定放進去對原則上是同意的原則上他們同意的好沒有給你們一點時間你們再整理一下資料我們就兩週內對對對兩週內吼好那現場的委員有沒有異議呃就是這一案嗎第二案喔我我要加連署請說喔你要加連署好吳衛人加連署我剛剛質詢也在講這個部分可以好加入連署好那對於剛剛所 |
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宣布的這個內容修正有沒有意見沒有意見確定修正通過第三案 |
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第三個是特別要跟委員報告一下就是說因為委員提出來的這幾項的重大修正必須要去檢討說就是要降低消費者物價指數加上次調整年度的指數上漲達百分之三的這個門檻要件而且要提高調整金額單位這部分因為涉及到比較通盤的檢討是不是可以請委員同意我們三個月內來提出這樣的來研議 |
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委員王世堅、王偉文那個...那個...主席那個...署長齁這個我不能同意你說把它調整為三個月啦因為這件事情第一點三個月你兩個月以後就畢業了不是嗎那就是要在這一個月內在你們還掌握這個狀況的時候 |
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那你們就要可以好好的發揮你們可以用你們畢業前這一個月好好的為國家為人民多做一些事情第二點這些演繹確實你這些演繹啊確實都是重大的演繹那但是你十年沒做勒嚴格講起來從33年前定到現在為止也沒有做任何的修正 |
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17893.628 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
所以看起來表面上好像很殘忍說要你們一個月內那這只是讓你們彌補過去這十年來你們在這一個部分的疏忽嘛好不好所以我希望我期許部長跟署長在你們這個這一個多月的任期內在拍畢業照之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
17894.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
17895.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
賴慈慧、賴慈慧、賴慈慧、賴慈慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
17916.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
17934.265 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
好,謝謝王世堅、王委員我本席也很認同所以我是加入連署的謝謝,這個有道理好,那如果說各位委員沒有意見我們就照王世堅、王委員剛剛所提的內容確定通過好,謝謝今日登記發言委員均已詢談完畢這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
17945.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
17967.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
說明及詢答完畢。委員質詢未及答覆或請補充資訊,請相關部會於一周內以書面答覆。委員另要求期限者從其所定。委員王鴻威、邱志偉所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報,並請相關部會以書面答覆。 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
17968.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
17996.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
是所得稅法第十四條條文修正草案所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案11案加值型及非加值型營業稅法部分條文修正草案加值型及非加值型營業稅法第八條條文修正草案3案。各案 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
17997.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
18015.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
均令哲齊繼續審查請問各位對以上決議有無異議?沒有異議?好那我們就哲齊再審本次會議議程已進行完畢如果有不在場委員補題書面質詢一併列入記錄刊登公報並請議事人員協助處理散會 |