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| 委員名稱 |
楊曜 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:22:48 - 11:32:12 |
| 影片長度 |
564 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員第1次聯席會議（事由：審查
一、委員謝衣鳯等17人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、委員陳菁徽等20人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
三、委員黃捷等22人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
四、委員林宜瑾等19人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
五、委員范雲等16人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
六、委員林楚茵等18人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
七、委員王育敏等18人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
八、委員黃秀芳等18人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
九、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
十、委員林月琴等17人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
十一、國民黨黨團擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
十二、委員洪申翰、范雲等21人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
十三、委員吳沛憶等18人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
十四、委員林淑芬等18人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
十五、委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。
十六、委員張雅琳等21人擬具「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案」案。） |
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謝謝主席。主席,我請一下吳署長。 |
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蘇長好,蘇長我們就是在單身女性跟女性同婚的人工生殖大概大家比較沒有意見對不對,意見比較一致可是我看衛福部的草案裡面大概有明定說 |
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假如要用人工生殖進行前必須要進行子女最佳利益評估這個確實很重要譬如說評估項目有品性、經濟能力等等你個人的想法怎麼讓這些評估不淪為形式上的程序步驟 |
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要怎樣才能踏實?因為這個很重要當然非常重要所以必須要建立相關的評估的機制跟規範還有品質的一個確保所以我們會有第三外督的一個機制我問這個就是因為子女還是最優先要被保障的對象接下來問一下就是 |
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我們現在最大的增值是在代孕升值的部分那衛福部其實五月份就已經有版本出來對不對那12月初前幾天署長對媒體還說就是 |
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不裡面並沒有立場一定要要專章我這樣子的敘述對不對?在程序在走的過程中的確如委員所說那現在在短短的幾天之內又變成一定要立專法我這麼講並不是我反對立專法我是要講說為什麼一個行政機關 |
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等19人擬具:「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案案 案件並不是一個新的議題。」 |
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內清德委員就已經有提過了表示這個在台灣社會其實已經討論很久的東西那你們行政機關在這麼短的半年裡面你們的政策這麼反覆為什麼? |
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跟委員報告現在很關心那其實就是因為討論非常的久而且國民監察署也跟國際、國內相關的專家然後做相關的討論跟研議那也將相關的法條就是預告的版本做完預告那也是回應很多社會的期待還有立法委員當初有提一些版本還有公聽會的一些要求甚至於質詢當時謝前部長的 |
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擬具:「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案 案 行政稿 行政稿 行政稿 行政稿 行政稿 行政稿 行政稿 行政稿 行政稿 |
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那你為什麼12月初還說你們...因為那時候程序還沒有做完啊都還是在做程序啊目前我們的布板才決定而已啊所以就是也算很急就章的在這兩天決定 |
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應該是這樣,跟委員說明一下,其實就是說我們當時把它設計進來的時候,其實是用專章的方式在處理。對,那如果說要把它切割下來的話,我們就把那個專章給剔除而已。那也就是說把專章剔除,然後你們把專章改成專法。未來再做研議,未來再做研議。那你還必須要研議多久? |
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這個還是要重啟,如果它是專法就要依法的程序重新走一次啊還要重新走一次那就是還要等你們我剛剛講了就是說這不是一個新的議題這是在台灣社會已經討論很久的問題甚至於在立法院2002年賴慶德委員就已經有 |
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包括蕭美琴委員我看連署他們兩個都有就是從那時候開始討論我現在並不是說不能立專法只是說為什麼行政機關的速度會那麼慢慢到現在委員的版本一大堆然後大家等你們等你們也沒關係因為我個人的主張是這樣子就是要嘛就是一次 |
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把這個問題一併做一個檢討,把立法完善的完成。我也想要問一下就是說你們預告收集了600多則的意見,署長覺得量體夠大嗎? |
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這是來反映在給我們的意見上面反映本身本來就是反對的會比較勇於表態這個第一點第二點我也不覺得600多則的數量夠我還是回到最初我覺得今天 |
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大家都希望能夠保障每一個人的生育平等我想行政、立法部門沒有人反對而現在我講的是行政機關的立法速度包括署長你在對外發言的時候 |
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等19人擬具:「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員等19人擬具:「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案：立法院第2會期社會福利及法制委員等19人擬具:「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案：立法院第2會期社會福利及法制委員等19人擬具:「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案：立法院第2會期社會福利及法制委員等19人擬具:「人工生殖法部分條文修正草案：立法院第2會期社會福利及法制委員等19人擬 |
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等專法進來一併做討論這樣子比較可以讓整個人工生殖的部分做一個完善的法制建構可是你們真的不能拖延太久我們就衝擊以法治 |
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507.118 |
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那這樣子的一個程序需要多久?他必須還是要做專家會議討論完了以後收集意見、預告等相關程序。那大概多久?這個流程要多久?這個流程當然會比較長。當然會比較長。署長假如說當然會比較長,那 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
514.755 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
527.023 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
那就比較麻煩啦,因為這麼多委員的提案版本,大家能不能等待你們那麼久? |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
528.575 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
557.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
台灣有一些不孕的人工生殖需求的民眾有沒有辦法等那麼久?這個都是一個問題。我們當然要盡快,那是法制還是要依程序來做?你們的盡快在速率上比起立法院真的慢很多。謝謝署長、謝謝主席、謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
560.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
563.944 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
謝謝楊委員、謝謝署長。那接下來我們請陀前紀委員 |
| IVOD_ID |
157884 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157884 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-05 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-05T11:22:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-05T11:32:12+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |