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| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:46:19 - 13:56:04 |
| 影片長度 |
585 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長針對「勞動部勞動力發展署北基宜花金馬分署事件及如何完善申訴管道之具體策進作為及期程」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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首先請問,霸凌案後現在大概是一個月了,到底我們現在的狀況是怎麼樣?因為我們看到這個一個月當中,很離譜的一件事情, |
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部長你知道嗎在你還沒有擔任部長你是立法委員的時候那一篇所謂的利益良善的那一篇這個目的良善的那一篇你認為適不適當 |
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請針對本席的提問,你知道那一份報告在什麼地方可以再看到嗎?對,它公開了,現在還在哪裡? |
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在哪裡的意思是在你勞動部的官網但是他是全文公開的他早就全文公開了在你勞動部的官網仍舊維持目前你們要重新調查但是現在還在你的官網上你只要點了你就可以看到目的良善你這份報告你身為部長你認為這一份是不盡完善的嗎對 是 |
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是不禁完善,好,不禁完善,現在還在你的官網上請問,被罵爆了之後呢,請問到底為什麼陳情的管道都失靈了呢?為什麼?因為你在當時擔任這個立法委員的時候,你也曾經有這個語言說,其實這個事情你早知道了 |
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不是無姓公務員的事情我說的不是無姓公務員的事情對就是說我說的是謝義榮的不當的管理的傳聞你就已經早有傳聞嗎有有耳聞傳聞你看喔都是外圍知道喔當時的勞動部都不知道是 |
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你勇於承認當時的勞動部不知道當時都是外圍知道為什麼這個政府會變成如此應該勞動部是勞工的靠山怎麼會如此怎麼會勞動部的長官變為慣老闆這樣的事件發生了這樣的憾事心很痛啊現在怎麼辦 |
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所以我們現在在重新調查我們希望能夠更進一步的把事實還原把事情還原把事實還原然後也比較知道我們過去到底犯了什麼錯在了解犯了什麼錯的狀況下面才能夠提出改善的做法你說的希望知道以往犯了什麼錯因為以往大家針對這個事項都認為勞動部一開始就想要輕輕的放過 |
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你會同意輕輕的放過嗎?當然不同意,絕對沒有這件事情。好,所以你重啟調查。那調查的內容,因為上一份是失敗的調查,所以要請教,勞動部到底有沒有持案?有沒有持案?包庇的為師,大致是誰處理? |
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是誰決策都會納入這些的因子會納入在你的調查嗎因為本席在商議院的部長我已經提出但是我看不到所以我希望能夠在你有為的作為以上剛剛本席所說的你會納入在你的調查的因子內嗎請做說明跟楊瓔說明吼現在調查報告的因為每一份報告還是會有它的範疇這個調查報告的範疇基本上我們會針對 |
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但是這個就是重要的案子 |
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委員我們關於申訴管道過去失靈的部分我們現在正在做檢討本席所提問的這事項你贊不贊成要列入在你的 |
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288.507 |
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288.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
主席主席主席 |
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304.503 |
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提起針對你現在是部長要針對立委的提問這些事項本席希望能夠納入在你調查的範疇之內你才能夠真正的水落石出所以你剛剛告訴我你們絕對不會吃案那以往有沒有吃你要去調查 |
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所以本席要請教就你看這個事件以往你是幾天前你是立法委員現在是部長你認為何佩珊到底有沒有關關相呼有沒有 |
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367.23 |
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這位委員我覺得我們從機制我們會比較從機制面來看待這事情你以前是立法委員阿你現在是部長你更有power有權力阿你要查明真相阿到底他有沒有有沒有關關相互如果機制設計的不妥當就容易出問題你現在解讀是他有包庇有關關相互機制設置不妥當可以這麼解讀嗎 |
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那個楊瓊瓔你現在是部長喔機制如果設計的不妥當就容易出問題那本席請問機制在你還沒當過部長以前他的目的良善的這樣子機制有沒有出問題這一篇報告這一篇報告裡面的內容我認為是不盡完善的 |
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北京完戰就是有問題嘛所以你直接回答就在本期最後一個議題請教你您說的您上任之後您說要實施什麼實施尊嚴 |
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| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
入法什麼? |
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| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
439.504 |
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你說的是哪一個標的入法哪一個就你剛問我什麼事情你認為這個霸凌事件要不要入法 |
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440.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
459.351 |
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你要讓他有尊嚴啊尊嚴的勞動這是核心價值因為我們現在在法規的修訂上面指安法不足以你自己擔任過立法委員你現在是部長指安法不足以去保護不足以所以在法的立場你會沒有討論的空間因為我們現在正在推動跟規劃防治職場霸凌的法制化 |
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467.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
請問大概多久時間?因為勞工很希望能夠看到有所作為有所方向 |
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514.407 |
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因為有一個時間我們在版本我們其實剛才在前面的委員會裡面有講到說我希望能夠在下個會期能夠提出下個會期來提出相關的草案相關的草案就是為陸法好好的去做一個整體性的一個檢討因為我們現在看到比如說五億勞動錢到底要不要放假會不會是國定假日就像立法院一樣我們是廣義的公務人員但是我們的助理是勞工 |
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533.936 |
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那這個整個社會的氛圍怪怪的在運作上面它沒有效能所以你會不會考慮建議五一勞動節全面放假那個跟委員長這些相關的討論我們當然都會跟其他的權責單位一起來討論我們都願意來討論都願意來討論你的立場 |
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你的立場呢是朝方向因為這涉及到這個其他的權責單位所以我們都願意一起來討論當然所以你的立場也就是跟以往你說的要還原7天的國定假日那你目前的立場你現在是部長是不是你的立場還是一樣 |
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謝謝楊瓊瓔 |
| IVOD_ID |
157827 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157827 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-12 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-04T13:46:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-04T13:56:04+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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