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| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:13:44 - 13:23:58 |
| 影片長度 |
614 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於大陸委員會單位預算。三、審查大陸委員會函送財團法人海峽交流基金會114年度預算書案。四、審查大陸委員會函送財團法人臺港經濟文化合作策進會114年度預算書案。【所列預算案僅詢答，另定期處理】。） |
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主委好好 主委好台灣的民主包容可貴啦其實就在於多元意見的表達多元意見的表達就是你不認同我的話但是我不一定認同你的想法你的話可是我是指捍衛你說話的權益對不對那一樣的道理我想先請教一下賴清德總統從過去到現在你認為他的骨子裡面 |
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他自己也說過嘛,他就是務實了台獨工作者嘛,對不對那賴清德總統2014年他擔任台南市長的時候他也前往過中國大陸做交流,他那時候去上海那時候台南市政府也提了相關的出國報告也講是說兩岸交流尊重且自信的交流穩健良性的交流讓兩岸聽見更多元不同的聲音 |
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賴清德總統有因為去了一趟中國大陸之後回來之後他改變他的台獨思想嗎?就你的理解跟委員報告520之後我們賴總統重申暫穩中華民國憲政體制不卑不亢維持現狀 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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我今天會以一個比較包容多元的方向來看尤其是在這一次這個陸生團來台灣本來我們看到是說第一時間陸委會副主委沈有忠副主委表示說由活動內容項目來講沒有太多的國家安全疑慮啊因為畢竟我們看到是這一次這陸生團他們就是做學術交流有參訪有看101有看淡水有去這個互委砲台 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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四、審查大陸委員會函送財四、審查大陸委員會函送財四、審查大陸委員會函送財四、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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主委,我覺得社會在對立或說社會沒有對立,我某種程度上是你們的敏感神經在作祟。因為就我的理解跟認知,中國大陸的學生如果說他從小到大他可能被灌輸的教育觀念是這個樣子, |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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如果說今天我們要辦任何的一個正常的交流活動我們要求的是別人來到我們這塊土地上面沒有做侮辱性或者是這個攻擊性的言辭但是他一定要講什麼不可的話那我覺得某種程度上我們也算是一種思想審查 |
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主委你會不會覺得我們有必要把自己限縮到這種程度嗎我想已經違反了對等尊嚴的不當說法引起臺灣社會的激烈反應我想我們行政部我真的說實在話你是部委會主委 |
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所以說對於我們來講因為其實本期還有看到另外一個議題所以你今天一開始的時候也有新聞講說解除淨團令那陸委會說持續的評估跟推動但實際上我看內文來講好像其實也沒有任何實質的進展 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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其實我們是在警示是在6月27號提出來的那多少倍就是說我們現在從1月到10月賦入的是230萬人次 |
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主委對業務沒有到很熟齁昨天你們提出來這所謂的專線的時候你們新聞裡面才講增加了五倍 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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因為我們還是有一些被監察、被拘禁、然後刑方不明或是不能讓他或促進管制的這些案例還有所以還是有一些風險所以我們持續的去觀察他個人付入是不是安全如果還是有疑慮的話我們還是要提出各種的警示還有各種的風險提醒所以看起來你不是一個量化指標你是個案的一個評估 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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所以看起來 我說實在話啦大家都期待兩岸能夠正常穩定的交流都能夠有更多元的對話讓兩岸能夠更了解金孟程度上可能會降低這個戰爭風險跟惡意的螺旋 |
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但如果說連我們主旗幟者的大陸委員會都沒有用這種比較客觀明確的一個指標的話我真的很擔憂整個賴清德政府是不是都一味的用更加惡意的方向來持續增加對應沒有我們是為了國人的安全 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
| IVOD_ID |
157819 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157819 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-13 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-04T13:13:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-04T13:23:58+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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