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| 委員名稱 |
鄭正鈐 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:01:12 - 13:07:51 |
| 影片長度 |
399 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長針對「勞動部勞動力發展署北基宜花金馬分署事件及如何完善申訴管道之具體策進作為及期程」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 我想請一下洪部長各位好 |
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部長好 因為從委員變成部長我們都期待你會更了解民間的聲音基層的聲音我想這是一個民意代表轉成行政官員很重要的一個部分那我在想說今天因為我們是針對勞發署北區分署的一個事件所產生的一個後續的一個專案報告那麼你在報告當中有特別提到說你之後要改進的方向包括 |
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要把現行執行職務遭受不法侵害預防指引的部分提升至法律的位階我想問一下這個部分就是執行職務遭受不法侵害的部分是指針對在民間勞動的環境還是包括公務環境 |
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跟鄭委員報告其實這確實有兩個部分一個部分是一般勞工在一般的職場上面的部分這個勞工部分當然是歸勞工部管的也是歸職安法來管的但確實現在關於公務員公務員的部分他在法規上面他比較是屬於公務員的法庭 |
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跟這位人說明喔 |
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一般勞工的部分當然一定是勞動部管理解理解那勞動部下的勞動部下的公務員我們也有責任勞動部跟所屬下的公務員我們當然有責任但確實現在在那如果不是勞動部所屬的時候你們就沒有責任不是我不是說沒有責任但是我要說確實現在他們所使用的主要的法規他的法體系比較是在考試院下的這個法體系 |
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好 那部長我想問一下因為你在擔任立法委員期間的時候你之前就曾經聽過北區分署這件事情嘛那你當時認為這個普遍性不適當的管理作為你也知道那你知道這個問題的時候可是你沒有進一步去追究你只是反應跟提醒 對不對那導致了後續 |
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跟這位人說明 |
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之前我是聽聞但是我聽聞了謝芬署長的不當德管那不是針對無無姓公務員的狀況普遍性不適當管理罪普遍性當然就涵蓋他的這個部分但是不是都是普遍性的這不是針對無姓公務員的案例我是有聽聞但是當時並不是有陳情人來跟我陳情或者是我手上有明確的證據因為我手上沒有明確的證據 |
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但是有這樣的聽聞所以我當然覺得我還是必須因為因為你當時的狀態你當時也是委員那你知道這個狀態的時候你沒有很積極去做所以我們現在對於你現在擔任部長之後的時候是不是會很有擔當齁能夠去針對這個部分能夠去解決好那我們其實是有一點點質疑啦齁 |
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行政院體系 |
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現在在行政院如果是其他部會的目前當然會是這個還是要等到你當行政院長的時候再去處理 |
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我不是這個意思我的意思是說現在不同的部會先去處理他的部會下﹖因為時間的關係部長我跟你講一下公務之聲靠北電台這裡面從你上來之後一個1.3萬人的粉磚已經有超過300則不同的公務體系的霸凌PO在那上面你知道這件事情嗎我有看過這個粉磚 |
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OK你看到這本專的時候那這麼多的公務體系的時候貼在這上面的時候你是要等到你當行政院長還是你現在就開始跟行政院去處理這相關的事情或者是跨部會去處理跟鄭委員說明 |
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我們的職安署確實在霸凌或者是相關的不法侵害上面他有累積他們一些專業所以今天這其他部會的公務人員他們可能現在還是主要適用的相關的保護法規是在考試院下面的法體系但是我們非常非常樂意提供我們在這方面的專業意見那我先跟你講行政院的 |
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消保處我們辦公室就收到了這樣的一個澄清行政院的下面消保處就有類似的案子我直接跟你講我希望你能夠更積極的去消保處對去處理這件事情就是非常的嚴重那細節我就不講因為霸凌的樣態勞動部應該更清楚那因為時間的關係我最後問一個狀態行政院只是要研議設身心調試架 |
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你知道這件事情嗎有看到這段時間的新聞跟討論那你支持身心調適假嗎當然我覺得對勞工從勞工的出發點來說身心調適是現在在職場上很重要的事情很重要的部分可是現在行政院的身心調適假只針對公務人員所以你這邊提到說勞工也很需要身心調適假那我希望你這邊能夠 |
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請勞動部部長 |
| IVOD_ID |
157816 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157816 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-12 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-04T13:01:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-04T13:07:51+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |