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| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:37:11 - 11:46:42 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-12-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長針對「勞動部勞動力發展署北基宜花金馬分署事件及如何完善申訴管道之具體策進作為及期程」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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蘇清泉議員 |
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部長來我講一個故事給你聽我們的法人醫療法人裡面有一個員工姓謝他是少校少校退伍退伍以後就到我們法人來上班那就在管理部那現在少校退伍都40幾歲了嘛就牽涉到中高齡就業所以我今天講的每一個地方都很tricky |
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我們停車場的管理人是74歲高齡就業所以這樣這一種的中高齡就業、高齡就業我們勞動部要給人獎勵啦要獎勵要撥點預算去獎勵這些這個是要鼓勵企業因為現在到處缺人 |
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他這個這個這個這個員工這個同仁他前一陣子跑來找我他說他要離職我跟他說你為什麼要離職他說我看跑不動就業這個要好好珍惜因為你本來就有退休縫了嘛軍售銷退有月退 |
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他說他要出去創業,我扯住了,說你要創業?你是在討厭問題嗎?他說要做啥?他說要做茶壇。這是什麼涼水的嗎?現在涼水打了什麼什麼什麼,很多的嗎?要做茶壇,要幫他搬一間茶壇。我說,我問他什麼問題? |
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第一個我說,你的本質學能有沒有比原來這個老闆強?第一個第二個我說,你有沒有比他怕拚?因為要賞咧?飲料要賞,酒要賞,有沒有這樣賞?不然像工讀生賞,你有比他比較怕拚嗎?我看你變大變大了第三個,我問他說 |
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他是怎樣才不會做?他說了解了解起來,哇,旁邊四、五大,不一樣的,親親茶良的,有什麼什麼,超多啦,什麼白痴的我講,旁邊那麼多競爭,我講你這三個條件,你有比他更怕拼嗎?你本質學能有比他強嗎?你可以這樣做到暗示十點嗎?再來你有本能要了嗎? |
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同樣的問題 |
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我們何佩珊11月22日在這裡說到六四派我當主席嘛流淚流的事我非常不捨我都把他紊亂 把他勾勒他很害怕他也很害怕他說 |
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公務體系很僵化這他講的就在上面講這裡到那邊我剛剛給他算了差不多8點多公尺啦我這裡打包到那裡他說很僵化第二個水很深所以他人都無奈那剛剛這一些問題我來請教部長 |
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其實我想我非常清楚知道現在勞動部內外面對到的壓力跟狀況其實都有非常非常大的挑戰 |
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那行政院在邀請我出任這個職位之後當然我現在決定我決定接受我就是做全部的承擔跟全力以赴所以從我的角度來說我比較不會去想說條件好壞的問題我現在的工作就是全力以赴把問題一步一步的解決 |
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就是你碰到的問題就是從早上到現在都是你以前幫勞工幫各界幫職業團體講的話今天大家都一一的拿來給你檢視那你講過的話你自己就要承擔當然那你講過的話你要怎麼解決你要有一些負案那公務體系真的是不好搞啦蠻僵化退不動而且 |
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那隊伍那麼龐大我剛剛一個一個勞動力發展署他加上外面的僱員臨時工的800眾室的什麼哈佛隆功加起來就好幾千人 |
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裡面都是業聘人員一大堆真的有公務員人才不到五分之一對不對所以很難做嘛所以你現在自己要面對的不一樣做你為親差公共的去跟那些不可以親差公共的對啦我沒有覺得立委都是親差公共的啦沒有啦至少在這邊執行不用負法律責任嘛所以只要負道德責任 |
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好那我還有2分23秒啊第二個問題我要問你的就是今天出問題這一這幾間都是救援安定基金嘛那勞動部下面有6個基金對 |
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那這個基金舊安定基金收入是298億182萬元支出是273億3000多萬這個是舊安定基金那其他的有勞保的作業基金 |
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現在其實勞務下面有6個基金那這6個基金的性質其實跟這個救援基金的性質比較不一樣因為他其實他的收入跟他的尤其是他的 |
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這些其他的基金很多他都有固定的給付所以他的性質是比較不一樣那個部分當然他的使用上面是我們的基金運用局在做整體的使用那因為就案基金確實他會成績比較多人比方說會有來自不同的申請 |
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包括地方政府也來申請勞工團體公會等等等都會來針對救安定基金如果他符合我們在救福法裡面包括是提升勞工福祉促進國民就業或者是移工相關的管理事務的話他都可以來申請所以他們的性質上面是比較不同 |
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所以其他的作業基金應該是不太會出問題啦比較不會不受控阿亂做我想我們業務單位都非常非常嚴謹的在把關對像勞退基金救治變成國安基金在顧股市的什麼的那個有時候要去操作的那個有法治化有很嚴謹嗎 |
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跟蘇緣報告齁其實我們在這些其他的基金包括勞保基金包括剛才說新制舊制等等等這些基金包括這個自在保險也有相關的基金這些基金我都已經要求同仁在管理的原則上最重要就是要專業就是用專業那 |
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這個有很多管理上面的做法上面我們怎麼樣避免外界不當的干預那尤其是現在逐步的過去確實發生過相關的弊案那但是這幾年也把相關的機制建立的越來越完善這是事實機制的建立已經越來越完善那我現在更要求就是以專業為導向來做這些其他基金運用的管理 |
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好 時間到了齁 不能敲鍋齁 |
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我對洪部長到從立委跑到勞動部去我也是替你爭亂啦我希望好好的做啦各個署各個司要督促我想你當一個政務官就是要好好的盯啊盯住齁那下面的要慢慢改啦事實上 |
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有些有些看起來真的是蠻蠻僵化蠻不好推的齁但是你還是要排除萬難啦謝謝謝謝謝謝蘇委員鼓勵如果總統行政黨支持你那你就好好幹嘛我覺得最重要的是要讓勞工朋友也能夠信任我們然後包括我們部內的同仁能夠信任我想這是最重要的更重要的加油加油 |
| IVOD_ID |
157794 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157794 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-12 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-04T11:37:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-04T11:46:42+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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