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| 委員名稱 |
張智倫 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:33:28 - 10:47:21 |
| 影片長度 |
833 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於大陸委員會單位預算。三、審查大陸委員會函送財團法人海峽交流基金會114年度預算書案。四、審查大陸委員會函送財團法人臺港經濟文化合作策進會114年度預算書案。【所列預算案僅詢答，另定期處理】。） |
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謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請邱主委好請邱主委 |
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張委員你好好 謝謝邱主委今天是這個陸委會的有關於114年度預算的這個質詢跟今天可能質詢的問題那本席想要先請教我們邱主委於今年陸委會於今年的6月1號發布了這個我們臺灣的旅客到大陸的進團令以及6月27號發布大陸的這個大陸的民眾到 |
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大陸旅遊的這個陳設警戒那現在我覺得人民現在我要幫所有的這個全台觀光業、旅遊業來請命了這個禁團令到底什麼時候會取消它的要件為何 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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還沒有真正的對台灣開放團客那他其中一個藉口說我們團客去中國大陸還有限制就是你所謂的禁團令但是我要跟委員報告我們在 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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到大陸的一些到大陸的一些限制。審讀22條。審讀22條。這樣的兩個東西都開放以後才會來正式解除禁團令嗎?喔!不是這個。喔!不是這個。對!所以本席要問你的意見是什麼時候才能解除禁團令的要件為何?我們 |
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剛剛除了我們追求健康有序的兩岸交流兩岸觀光旅遊交流之後我們還有一個我們對於國人賦入的安全我們最關心的是國人的安全所以安全就是因為懲毒22條所以大陸要放棄懲毒22條才會開放禁團令嗎?台灣的禁團令嗎?我們在確定它對國人賦入安全有沒有影響特別是懲毒22條我跟委員報告 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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如果加上11月份的話我相信已經20萬團客到大陸去了所以主委的意思是說現在還有在這個當時6月1號進團令之後的旅遊團因為還沒有出團的目前還有在出團的情況對現在還在繼續出團那大概他們會出團到什麼時候 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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跟委員報告我們一直呼籲中國大陸2020年4月份他們就不讓學位生來那現在來台灣的這個入生的結構學位生現有學位生越來越少剩下1000多人那麼如果說現在比較多的是研修生大概今年1到10月還有2108位那這個當然入生的這個在校園是越來越少 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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中國大陸學生來臺灣留學而且我們也接到許多中國大陸的家長他們希望到臺灣留學但是中國大陸他對於他的國人境外就是嚴格管控所以他們還不能來我們也呼籲他應該讓兩岸的年輕人像我們剛剛今天早上討論到兩岸青年交流很重要最主要是學生交流學生交流應該讓他自由自在自主自然的交流其實入生來臺 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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想要請這個主委來解釋是他的這個登錄的重點是有利於這個國人在遇到緊急事情的時候政府能夠及時聯絡這個緊急聯絡人而提供必要協助是嗎?是,跟委員報告我們這個對國人賦入感目前還有風險的情況下那國人透過這個登錄系統 |
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二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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好那接下來我要請教主委的齁剛剛有提到齁台灣呃台灣國人齁現在去大陸旅遊大概到目前今年為止大概230多萬人有去大陸嘛一到十月一到十月嘛那我想要請教現在登錄系統齁我們可以看到登錄系統這樣的資料齁我們登錄的資料113年目前登錄的資料只有幾萬人欸 |
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那是不是這個登錄系統完全沒有發揮它的作用只有幾萬人登錄兩百多萬人去大陸旅遊可是只有不到兩萬人登錄這樣的系統然後要花人民納稅錢這個六七百萬來建設這樣的系統會不會認為有浪費國家預算的問題那我再請教另外一個問題第一個登錄人數比較少那我想要請教就是說 |
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558.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
583.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
因為花了人民納稅錢大概六、七百萬,因為登錄這個系統而實際緊急處理的人數為何?大概多少人?這個我先跟委員回答,就是說我們以今年跟去年的話,我們今年登錄的人數已經是去年的14倍,我們港澳的部分有6倍,是增加很多,但是我們國人在評估它的風險, |
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584.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
586.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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605.794 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
跟委員報告事實上陸委會提供這樣的緊急服務我請問請問人數你清楚人數嗎?我們的人數基本上是包含海基會的緊急服務專線我請教的不是海基會的緊急服務我請教的是陸委會建設這樣的系統這個港澳台富登陸系統以後服務了多少人我直接跟主委報告服務是0人吶 |
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629.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
631.661 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財二、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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650.912 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
665.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
請教你現在花人民納稅前700萬進入的這個登錄系統有沒有服務到任何我們的國人?我們到港澳的時候會收到了簡訊,大陸也一樣,貴友基安就只有簡訊,簡訊以外上面是我們駐館的電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
668.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
668.593 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
685.951 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
688.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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711.929 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
714.591 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財三、審查大陸委員會函送財 |
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737.055 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
763.215 |
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那請你提供你的電子郵件信箱,只是我沒有填寫啦我沒有填寫我的電子郵件信箱啦所以他這樣的系統也是可以過關的所以我要請教的就是我們立委會這樣子沒有房貸的一個系統要花人民納稅前七、八百萬是合理的嗎?你們有沒有在做這樣的資料的檢核?這個系統已經推了兩年了欸報告委員針對這部分我們事實上有發現我們已經請廠商進行後續的修正 |
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764.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
792.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
針對負照號碼我全部都填了而且這個系統連提供到我們國人要到哪裡附入哪裡的地址也不是必要填寫資訊那這個資訊你要如何去救助需要救助的國人?因為國人不見得希望提供這麼詳細資料但他只要提現在是線上系統他告訴我們是要緊急聯絡人而不是說一定要到大陸的哪一個城市住在哪一個地方 |
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792.597 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
817.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
好所以本席是拜託這個主委主委非常辛苦在你們在做事情的時候要讓用人民大稅錢的時候已經兩年的系統了是結果救助的人是零而且沒有這個資訊沒有房貸的謝謝委員執政我們會不斷的把它優化那到底裡面有多少的錯誤的資訊所以我跟你講這個答案是零也不意外因為根本就沒有這個系統的功能基本上就是零 |
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817.922 |
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818.462 |
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張志倫委員休息5分鐘 |
| IVOD_ID |
157765 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157765 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-13 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-04T10:33:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-04T10:47:21+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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