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委員名稱 |
莊瑞雄 |
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09:26:38 - 09:40:38 |
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840 |
會議時間 |
2024-12-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議(事由:審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於立法院主管收支部分。
【僅進行詢答;預算提案於12月10日中午12時截止收件】) |
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謝謝主席請我們立法院副秘書長請麻煩副秘書長他身體不變我們剛剛有選他血氧降到很低問他比較好玩可是因為身體因素我們一定是第一方沒問題當然身體最重要來副秘書長副秘書長是多大你也不知道備詢這個準備這樣不行我來請教幾個問題就我們立法院 |
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這個簽件或者擴建這樣的一個問題我記得我們本來是26個地址選址到最後變成6個那當然現在的一個狀況我看這整個會期這樣子似乎朝野動蕩不安你們可能要花更多的心思在這個議事上但是也快一年的時間對於整個立法院的一個 |
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擴建委員會或者尋找新的一個場域裡面你們現在這個計畫有沒有在進行? |
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好 謝謝委員關心那就是剛剛委員所提到的我們之前有立法院未來國會院警規劃諮詢委員會他的成員有21人召開了6次會議是啦 這就不用再給我拖時間了我就你就簡單跟他說你怎麼有編預算嘛預算也編了 你們編了多少本來去年編了多少好 這個部分709萬709嘛 有開的集嗎 |
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還沒有一家人就沒開到還沒有那你不做事了報告委員這個部分是這樣啦容我再補充一下在113年5月的時候總務處有報請邀請了黨團協商組成國會貴賤規劃暨監督委員會那這個部分我們必須要等到議決以後然後配合預算709萬來辦理後續的規劃如果說沒有在113年執行去年編的709就是給今年用那現在已經12月份了嘛 |
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那你們這個預算怎麼去辦保留?什麼到時候?都12月底了,什麼到時候?那就不可能辦保留了吧? |
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副編長答詢不能開玩笑你動作在這裡我是在跟你開槓這個是很嚴肅的事情啊去年編的預算今年用然後今年用你說可以講了很多理由朝野動盪不安為了整個議事你們這個幾乎心思花在這個地方所以整個擴建我們就全部都停擺了就算你停擺那你這個去年編的錢你今年就沒編了嘛 |
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所以說嘛 從看你們花錢跟看你們有沒有編預算我就看得出來新任院長的心思嘛 不是這樣子嗎 |
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你做一個負密你是負貿要賺而已嘛你沒辦法給我寫嘛就是說這件事情你們不把它當重要的事也沒有關係但是要講清楚怎麼你們連這個去你們自己都不編那去年編的你們一毛錢也都沒用然後你們錢也沒有去辦保留然後今年也不編明年的那所以你的解讀總歸一句話你認為在韓院長任內裡面有會有任何作為嗎 |
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這個部分我是不是請總務處長來做一個補充他沒有辦法回答這個啦搞不好你也沒辦法回答啦我是說從你們沒有編預算還有別人編了預算你們一毛錢都沒花就可以知道你這個態度了嘛這個不要跟我講漂亮的話這個議題是朝野最高度共識的欸到底是你們怠惰 |
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今天幾號?今天幾號你都不知道勒 |
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這不能嬉皮笑臉啦我跟你講我就從第一個上來的答詢我就覺得奇怪你怎麼這樣的一個答詢的一個方式可能你沒有準備喔可能是要周秘書長來自己親自來來來備詢的但也不能這樣像這一種東西就是親著我親著叫一下也能回答什麼你給我回答這樣 |
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我們積極辦理 |
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對啦 要積極辦理積極辦理是四個字積極辦理 你們怎麼積極辦理法 |
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市部的部分,廢後再跟總務處這邊來做商討不行啦,你們這樣不行啦一毛錢都沒有發,你說你要積極辦理你動作大家都中斤啦,這就不對啦立法院,我再另外一個重要的問題啦大家都希望是五指化啦,不要浪費這麼多的一個帳我給你看一下,三天分的那三天的,再過年一個啦你覺得你地下室你看過沒有?有多嗎? |
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有很多很可怕那確實是很可怕那這個議題我倒是這樣子認為我們立法院我們其實也在推這個五子化的一個會議但我相信大多數人也不太清楚你如果從立法院的內網裡面那個網站 |
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獲得獎項 |
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﹚莊瑞雄﹚ |
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拜託你剛才說的 要積極辦理 這都是假話 這都是空話 立法院應該做的是說我怎麼樣去量化我一年我要減少多少值的使用量的一個百分比 然後呢 |
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定期去做一個公佈說無紙化你推動的一個成效的一個數據啊逐步去強化我們整個線上系統的一個便利性跟使用度那我想呢這個最主要是說全球現在都是在推行節能檢探當下無紙化減少紙張啦不是那個不少紙化那個紙這個我相信立法院應該是積極來辦理的我不曉得你們的意見怎麼樣可以再加強嗎 |
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謝謝委員 這個部分我想五指化這個趨勢是大家世界上共通的趨勢然後這部分可以分為兩個部分一個部分是電子公文的部分 一個部分是會議資料的部分這我就知道了 因為先跟你說 我現在跟你說你要怎麼積極辦理就像你剛講的積極辦理 你有簿嗎 我要求的時候你要去做一個量化 |
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指標定期做一個公布你們有誰有沒有辦法來幫忙他副秘書長來回答這個問題我們請公報處長 |
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委員報告 |
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當年的用紙量大概是一萬五千令那到去年大概一百一十二年的統計已經降到四千令所以我們整個很具體的一個節省大概百分之七十三%的一個節省一年減七百一年差不多不知道一百七十三% |
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95年至112年總共減73%本來是15000人今年呢今年大概也會預估大概用了 |
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目前113年到現在用1278令而已。減少的跟去年減少的幅度做比較呢?減少,因為到113年以後就穩定了啦,大概都是用4000令左右。所以我的意思就是說,我希望你們有一個具體的一個指標啦。那我會給你一個辦公室三天就這麼可怕。那那麼多的一個辦公室啊,有點可惜啦。你看那個程序委員會,對吧? |
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議員:莊瑞雄議員 |
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差不多就好了我有請我辦公室去算中興大樓這樣 |
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我告訴你 我要去算過 一天後一百三十八隻 最少我算一百二百隻 辦公室都出動 去數那個機車 數那個機車要幹什麼呢 就是說我們那個整個下去那個坡道 停在外面的機車不算喔 我說停在中心大樓底下的 那變成說我們地下的坡道是暗藏危機 要特別小心 就是說看 |
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秘書長 副秘書長 還是找您總務處長您討論一下就是說那個地下停車場那個坡道可不可以改成比較防滑一點 |
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最後一個問題 |
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委員指的是哪一種顏色的嗎?因為他有分不同的顏色。 |
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市長市長市長市長市長 |
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一些門禁、考勤、交通支付甚至於都讓拿的人都會覺得說他是非常有一個便利性好好的再去想一下讓這些使用的人覺得很便利那也體現一下你們對員工的一個照顧嘛 |
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委員會主席 |
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不然立法院所有的各局處都在處理議事工房沒有這種事嘛你們各個單位全部都是不同的嘛那這個沒有提升的話代表沒有在做事啊你不能說立法院都是沒人管的立法院都是可以管你們的怎麼會不能管我們是說早末每一個政黨早末在政治議題啊可是你立法院該去提升的這個部分跟其他的各個單位啊立法院是一個院欸 |
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謝謝委員的提醒 這個部分我們會來做一個研究提升它的功能 |
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這個有必要啦!不然現在真的是太陽春啦!院欸!我們這叫做院欸!不要開玩笑欸好不好!你那個立法院那個簽件跟擴建那件事情喔不要再推給各黨團好不好!你們錢沒有給人家用一毛錢然後沒有去辦保留然後 |
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明年的今年沒有給他兵辦毛錢這代表叫做不是說你們以後要積極辦理這個叫做怠惰啦好不好謝謝委員我們會辦保留謝謝謝謝莊委員欸那個蜂蜜蜂蜜我想請教 |
IVOD_ID |
157743 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157743 |
日期 |
2024-12-04 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-17 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
17 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-12-04T09:26:38+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-12-04T09:40:38+08:00 |
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