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| 委員名稱 |
林倩綺 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:24:37 - 17:45:01 |
| 影片長度 |
1224 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-29T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第2會期第1次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為考試院第十三屆院長、副院長及考試委員任期於113年8月31日屆滿，茲依據憲法增修條文第6條第2項規定，提名周弘憲為考試院第十四屆院長，許舒翔為考試院第十四屆副院長，邱文彥、鄧家基、王秀紅、呂秋慧、柯麗鈴、黃東益、伊萬．納威Iwan Nawi 7位為考試院第十四屆考試委員，咨請同意案。） |
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主席、我們立院同仁有請鄧備提名人請鄧備提名人委員好鄧備提名人您好本席拜讀了您的經歷、自傳 |
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提答等資料以及剛才聽了兩位委員的詢答可以看得出來您本人確實很有心在考試院貢獻自己的專長以及您的專才考試院主要的功能在這個考試權主要設在健全文官體制樹立年能政治 |
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促進建構公基制度．創造人民謀求最大福祉的閒能政府．並透過專門的職業及技術人員質量的調控．提升職業水準．確保公共利益及人民的生命．身體、財產等權利 |
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但是我們經過了幾年來爭議極大的年金改革公務員的士氣受到很大的影響最近勞動部又傳出了霸凌輕生案國家公務機關簡直到了關不了生的地步最後危害的還是全民的福祉 |
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那關於年金改革跟霸凌的問題：最近很多委員都討論過那以您當過公務員、民意代表、行政首長、民間機關的意見領袖本席相信您對本席所提的以上的這一些議題跟問題應該會有誠意的而且很有效度的去處理 |
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在您如果有機會擔任考試委員所以呢今天本席在這邊就先贅述這些重大的需要被解決的問題那以本席的身份想談一個目前普遍大家沒有注意到被忽略的問題也就是原住民族特考 |
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這個問題在現在有很大的一個衝擊最重要的就是原住民族特考報考的人數下降而且因為法令的限制讓本來已經很嚴重的問題雪上加霜那不曉得您在這個部分有沒有一些所聞跟了解呢 |
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謝謝委員指教關於原民特考在過去的10年以我的瞭解他從10年前的每年報考大概3300多人到現在大概1200到1300但是我跟委員報告就是說報考的人數下降有很多的原因那麼據我的瞭解衝擊最大的是當年的主語的認證因為要 |
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保障原住民的權益做了主語的認證以後可能不符合這些原來規範的就比較少來報名可是我跟委員報告就是說原住民特考據我的了解有40多類科有三級、四級、五級而這個40幾類科每年都是針對用人機關的需求提出來以後考選部針對這個部分來辦理原住民的特考所以 |
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您剛才擔心的就是說原住民特考他有受到影響以這個部分來講只要用人機關有需求提出來考選部是不會拒絕他都會報名第二個部分我跟委員報告就是說原住民特考他從以前每年禁用大概有170、180位的原住民這個 |
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委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會委員會 |
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未來如果有機會在考試院必須要注意的我想我們也會來跟委員來請教來做這些方面的一個建議 |
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謝謝您的回應所以真是不愧過往的經歷所以您對這個部分是有相當程度的了解本席在今天希望透過這個機會也讓您知道您知道這個特考是原住民擔任公職很重要的管道然後也是在鼓勵我們的人才透過這一個公共事務來促進原住民族的傳承也能夠參與公共事務 |
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那本席這邊先跟您提出來因為您也知道問題之所在這個足語的認證那為什麼今天會特別提出來是因為今年是113年度那請您看一下我們接下來的這個簡報所以從100年到113年度原住民族特考報考的統計人數 |
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副院長：副院長： |
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比50%再多一點 58.85那等別越高的報考率越低比其他公務人員考試平均報考率70%明顯偏低那為什麼會從110年報考人數更是斷崖式下滑就像您講的其實是受到足以的這個規定的這個衝擊 |
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但是我們也很感謝過去這個考試院尤其是考試院的姚院長在原住民族的開缺還有在原住民族的考試他很清楚地知道原鄉地區的一個需求 |
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但是在很多的文化推動下主語認證成為這個考試很重要的一個關鍵所以有幾方的一個說法本席要提出來的是原住民族的報考人數已經明顯偏低從110年主語認證執行以來又越來越低 |
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這個當然是原住民族的語言發展法的規定讓許多原住民報考的公務人員很困難這個法施行三年後也就是110年原住民族參與公務人員特種考試的還有公費留考必須要取得足語認證 |
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那前面已經取得資格的人可能需要足語的這個相關的學分所以在考選部109年修訂了公務人員特種考試原住民族考試規則之後在第三條的第二項規定從110年1月1號在報考的時候就一定要有足語語言能力初級以上的合格認證 |
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在113年1月1日報考一、二、三等考試一定要取得原住民族委員會合法的原住民族語言能力認證﹐終極以上的合格證書 |
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語言認證的卡關在110年人數已經降到一千多一千兩百五十二已經跟您所認知的三千有很大的差距了通過族語的原住民主要集中在七到十八歲的青少年 |
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但是特考的報考人數大概都是集中在21到40歲平均年齡差不多30歲那有一些人可能某一些原因就錯過了學習的黃金時期 |
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這當然有一個社會的影響第一個部分是我們長期在漢文化的影響下足語有一些流失但是又在整個社會氛圍的推動下又某種程度的被強迫的要把流失的足語給找回來這個在文化上當然是很重要一個認同可是在實際的 |
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社會操作上確實有個案上的一些困難所以本席想要請問鄧平民仁請問您怎麼看待這樣一個事情非常謝謝委員就是說主語的認證在考試規則裡面應考資格的這樣要求 |
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以我個人的了解就是說他是透過用人機關尤其是主管機關的一個意見的徵詢那麼在這種狀況下面如果說這個影響到原住民朋友的這樣的一個應考資格而他本身又是原住民的話這個是可以做檢討也就是說任何 |
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主權任何一個國人他參與國家考試跟服公職的權利這個是應該要受到保障的我想這是可以未來不管是透過教考訓用的平台或者是說主管機關 |
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他直接跟考選部來做應考資格的這樣商量這個主語的認證的部分是可以做到調整我個人認為如果有機會就像剛才跟委員報告就是說一定能夠參與的話我能夠把委員的意見能夠跟相關的這些業務單位來做這樣的一個反應我想這是我可以做的未來如果有機會的話 |
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所以本席這邊有一個方法跟建議這個特考的主語認證那主語法在25條的第2項還有一個規定原住民族專責機關之公務人員還沒有取得原住民族主語認證者每年應該休息 |
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修習一些學分原住民族的這個語言那他修習的時數由中央主管機關來訂定請問您贊不贊成去調整這個報考規定然後保留這個規定呢部長不管是委員或其他 |
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任何的角度來提供這些方面的建議我剛才跟委員報告就是將來在不管是教考訓用的平台或者是考選單位直接跟這個用人機關、儲管機關來做商議這些都可以去納入考量 |
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只要大家討論取得共識我剛剛跟委員報告就是說只要能夠符合應考的權利保障大家應考的權利保障大家服務公職的權利我想這個都值得被考量的謝謝所以你要知道這個報考人數驟降應該會是在考試院的被處理績效的這個部分是 |
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所以在土木工程跟農業技術類科其實是我們很重要如果是在原鄉很需要的一個這個類科那常常錄取也不足耳那麼在每三四年對不起這三年來三四等的考試都錄取不足耳 |
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總計三等考試不足的比例是40.31四等考試是25.77長年不足額的類科土木工程、農業技術三等考試土木工程類科不足額更高85.14農業技術類科55.73四等的土木類科不足額是62.6 |
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6.1 農業技術類科是51.35那很重要的一點值得注意的是土木工程也就是您的專業這個類科缺人的情況是最嚴重的而且還不是只有原住民族特考但是原住民族特考特別嚴重但也是我們需要這個經常被提列需用名額最多的 |
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那這個不足額跟比率也都是最高的那請問鄧提名人土木工程是您的專業您也是所有提名人當中唯一一位土木專業的人員所以對於土木工程那顆嚴重缺材的問題您有什麼看法您覺得是什麼樣的原因然後可以怎麼樣來解決或因應這個問題 |
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我跟委員報告就是說土木建築這些專業技術類不管是在原民特考或者是在一般高普考都有缺額這裡面第一個我認為最大關鍵就是跟私人企業在競爭人才不管是在彈性、薪資、記憶力各方面公家招募人才的機制都沒有辦法跟私人競爭這是一個長期的隱憂第二個部分就是說在公部門 |
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尤其是偏鄉我們觀察到的就是執行土木建築工程的執行工程的安全環境非常有問題也就是說它的關縮壓力讓這些專業技術人員他沒有辦法依法行政所以基於這兩點就是說我認為未來現在考選部考試院已經推動的專技人員的轉任 |
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他未來可以對整個正式考試考選人才不足的部分他能夠用彈性取材的方式就有專技技證照的他就可以透過甄選機關有這樣的需求他能夠進到機關 |
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但是我剛剛跟委員報告如果跟私人企業競爭的能力不足他還是沒有辦法第二個部分就是安全就是未來如果有機會參與考試院的業務我想我能夠做這些方面的建議就是怎麼樣建構我們基層土木建築工程人員在執行公務的時候他的一個安全的環境我覺得這個在制度上能夠給他做保護做避免比如說我們人是 |
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這個陣風系統他能夠定期來關懷我們基層的工程人員你在過程有沒有受到不當的壓迫我覺得對他的保護對他留任的機率都很好當然最後因為這些工程人員工務繁重他都透過相關職系的轉任他就留掉也就是說在機關內部人才流失也是一個非常關鍵在這個部分 |
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謝謝鄧提名人所以您也相當程度的瞭解從公務機關的各種角度土木相關的工程人員的這樣一個問題所以最後一個問題本席想要請教您原住民族特考的職缺都位於比較偏鄉的地區 |
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那107年到113年之間．機關所提報的職缺．六成的職缺．就在全國的55個原住民族鄉鎮市那提缺機關的地域的分布．以臺東縣、新北市、花蓮縣所在的機關最多但是目前涉及在都會的原住民族．已經將近一半 |
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偏遠地區的任職條件跟職癌發展跟都會區我想您也很清楚知道也有一些差距自從姓名法開始實施之後那又有更大的一個比例上的差異所以這也是原住民族報考 |
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暴考率可能偏低的一個原因所以我們也可以發現近三年開缺越來越多可是足以認證的這個規定又讓人才供應不朽所以本席想請教您您是否如果有機會到考試院的話可以幫原住民爭取提升都會區的職缺嗎第二點 |
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最近公務人員霸凌的事件受到關注您剛才也很了解這個土木類科的這個公務人員可能在職場上所遇到的問題那原住民在這裡面也有文化差異上的一個狀況所以我們想請考試院在原住民族公務人員身牽的這個相關的資訊本席也很期待您能夠向了解 |
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土木、類科的直系人員一樣了解一下原住民族的公務人員在整個公務體系工作環境下的一個升遷那是不是在您的任內可以協助解決原住民的相關困難如果您有這個機會的話是,謝謝委員如果有這個機會 |
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第一個就是參與考試院業務委員的指教我們一定把它全盤做一個瞭解就是說原住民朋友在公務體系他的工作狀況升遷是不是有受到這些該有的改善而沒有做的部分我想這個我會來參與那麼您剛剛提到的就是說原住民也好偏鄉也好除了剛才主語的認證我個人也一直觀察就是說 |
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如果能夠按照職責的程度來做職務列等讓大家都能夠公平對待不會說工作多的錢少的官等小工作少的官等大現在我們講直轄市跟縣市要能夠齊一列等其實主要考量也在這一點我們都經歷過臺北縣的升格 |
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升格對工作我個人的觀察沒有什麼變化但是科長馬上升一等副局長馬上升一等這個東西最大的好處在哪裡呢臺北縣原來人才流失非常嚴重不是跑來臺北市就是中央部會又進但是一旦升等以後當時留下來的現在都當了副局長 |
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所以我覺得說縣市的劣等的綜合的檢討我覺得不應該再拖那這樣的話可以改善人才在偏鄉服務的一個意願偏鄉不是不好有山好山好水我個人就認為說比都市還要好這個可能要看個人的這個意願然後想法以前警察調萬華分局那個是很競爭現在警察是調 |
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台東是第一志願我聽說因為輕鬆一樣的這個待遇所以我覺得這個都有各有喜好但是制度上如果能夠讓他公平的話我覺得應該是可以改善委員的建議我們會來參考如果有機會進到立法那考試院謝謝 |
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那本席這邊還是提醒一下那在都會區職缺的這個爭取上您有沒有機會為原住民再多爭取都會區相關的職缺是 若有機會的話我們一定會把委員的意見帶進去好不好 謝謝 |
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本席希望您如果有機會到考試院來投入跟服務的話那請把本席所提的這個問題列進很積極的一個考量跟積極的推動是 謝謝好 謝謝林委員 謝謝 |
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