| IVOD_ID |
15769 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15769 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-15-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-28T08:29:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-28T10:10:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
01:40:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3eaa91999d46b611e449b5fa2f296a935343be8d109af184be4ebf176f7ed7d10535ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查行政院函請審議「海洋保育法草案」案。二、繼續審查委員楊瓊瓔等20人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。三、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。五、審查委員黃捷等18人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。六、審查委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。七、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等19人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。【第四案至第七案，如經復議，則不予審查。】八、審查委員蘇巧慧等16人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。九、審查委員羅美玲等17人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。十、審查委員許宇甄等20人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。十一、審查委員莊瑞雄等20人擬具「海洋保育法草案」案。【第八案至第十一案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查。】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:29:59 - 10:10:00 |
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審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保育法草案。四、審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保育法草案。五、審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保育法草案。六、審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保育法草案。七、審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保育法草案。八、審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保育法草案。九、審查委員王美惠等19人擬具、「海洋保 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第7次全體委員會議一事錄。時間113年3月18日星期一上午9時至下午1時9分。113年3月20日星期三上午9時至下午1時30分。地點紅樓202會議室。 |
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保育法草案案。五、出席委員蘇巧惠委員等13人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。六、列席委員洪生亥委員等37人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。七、請假委員麥玉珍委員擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。八、列席官員3月18日內政部部長林佑昌及相關人員、三月20日內政部部長林佑昌國土管理署署長吳興修及相關人員、民主民族委員會政務副主任委員及相關人員、主席高金召集委員宿銘、 |
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報告事項一、宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定。二、邀請內政部部長率同所屬練習報告業務概況並備質詢。內政部部長林佑昌報告委員蘇巧慧等20人質詢。分別由內政部部長林佑昌及相關人員答覆說明。決定一、登記發言委員除不在場者外其餘均已發言完畢,詢答結束。二、委員賴益臻 |
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牛許廷、陳冠廷、林俊憲、劉建國等5人所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報。三、書面質詢集會及答覆部分請相關機關與議政內令以書面答覆並複製本會,通過臨時提案期按。3月20日,報告事項,邀請內政部部長及國土管理署署長、原住民組委員會主任委員就國土計劃推動辦理請勤進行專題報告並備質詢。內政部部長林永昌、原住民組委員會政務副主任委員 |
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報告,委員高金素美等26人指詢,分別由內政部部長林友昌及相關人員、原住民組委員會政務副主任委員及相關人員答覆說明。決定一、登記發言委員處不在場者外區其餘均已發言完畢,詢答結束。二、委員蔓玉珍、林德福、陳軍宇、劉建國、王宏威、張祺凱等6人所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報。三、書面質詢及未及答覆部分請相關機關於一周內另以書面答覆並複製本會,通過臨時提案罷案,宣讀完畢。 |
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好,請各位委員,上次會議議事錄有無錯誤或遺漏?沒有。好,那我們議事錄確定。那我們繼續進行本錄議程討論事項,請先讀。好。好。 |
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審查委員王美惠等16人擬具、「海洋保育 |
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法草案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。八、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。十、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。十、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。十、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。十 |
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經過星期一的公聽會,發現本草案眾多,有多項的爭議。今天我們帶審除院版外,上有十幾個版本。今天針對爭議小的條文進行處理,爭議大的我們則取再處理。那現在我們陳希花議員請我們照位。 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具:「海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。八、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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草案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具 |
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海洋民族的族人。」 |
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保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具 |
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保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具 |
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保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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審查委員王美惠等16人擬具〈海洋保育法〉案。 |
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審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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保育法草案案。 |
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主席還有各位同仁先進大家好我想今天召委排審這個海保法事實上是讓我們有一點錯愕啦因為3月25號才辦完公聽會星期四馬上就要逐條審查我是不曉得為什麼壓力要如此粗促的這個在沒有完全溝通的情況之下要通過海保法我想這個整個立法的過程如果以搭高鐵來說的話 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。八、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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目前是都沒有在各地辦理公聽會然後充分溝通之後才能夠完善中研的立法。那第三公聽會都還沒辦就要進入逐條審查事實上是非常倉促的尤其是星期一的內政委員會召開的公聽會的審查報告也還沒出爐我們就要馬上進行逐條審查對參加公聽會的學者、專家、漁民代表、原住民代表都是非常的不尊重 |
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不可以為了立法而犧牲漁民的權益,犧牲原住民的權益跟生計。其實大海就像漁民的家,沒有人比他們更希望好好的保護這個家園,好好的立法。所以是不是等地方的公聽會辦完之後,充分的跟地方溝通之後,我們大家打成共識,等審查包括缺乏之後,我們再來逐條審議。那我們今天有一個提案,希望交委能先處理,謝謝。 |
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海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具 |
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大家剛提到的不管是漁民不管是原民這個我們當然都尊重以我屏東來看的話我們有漁民我們也有原住民我們更有運動產業所以其實大家在關注的整個海保法裡面還有好多團體裡面大家來關注的我相信它的核心問題答案很清楚 |
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《海洋保育法草案》案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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各個黨派我們都去尊重,讓整部法令的一個審議的時候能夠更充實,能夠更完備。這我都贊同阿,但記者你也要還這提案,還還提案說明阿,這是最基本的吧,對不對,你說要怎麼審,誰會期待說今天這個法令會通過,那不可能的事情阿,但是阿,總是阿,有一部法令以後阿, |
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審查委員王美惠 |
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審查委員王美惠等16人擬具 |
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審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。 |
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保育委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。 |
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草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具 |
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提案說明是沒問題的,但是剛剛徐議政委員賴媽也提出說我們今天有些難受的案,你們不希望召委員讓我們用一次提案嗎?是,至少有一個保障、一個公平的環境。啊,不是已經公眾會了嗎?昨天可不可以處理臨時提案喔?啊,昨天?我猜就是召委員,意思就是說今天我們有臨時提案,我們的臨時 |
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保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具 |
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好,我們現在開會了。好,那我們現在進行我們下面議程,就是讓我們提案委員先來說明。好,第一位我們莊瑞雄委員。 |
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草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具 |
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草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具 |
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應經審議會議 化為海洋保護區。那審議委員到底用哪些人來組成?比如說專家、學者、民間團體、法人、原住民以及居民等不具官方代表,這個部分比例到底要多搞? |
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海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬 |
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世界保護海洋與海洋共存的趨勢。」那我們今天本來要審查的這個海洋保育法正是要彌補台灣落後腳步的重要基石主要的宗旨就是要保護海洋的生態環境並要海洋資源能夠達到永續在保護海洋和漁業資源利用之間要取得平衡 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法》案。 |
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法律規定,海洋保護區的可發射範圍應該擴及所有可管轄的海域,包括經濟海域與大陸礁層,並且針對違規太陽應該有連續罰級負擔回復原狀的義務,這是第28條的機制。第二點,我認為《海洋保育法》作為我國海洋保育之專法,應該負擔其整合跨部會海洋保育量能的工作,因此在資料庫建制第7條以及海洋保育知識的傳遞第5條, |
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但事後考慮我國的量能保護與保護區劃設所需的大量前置工作,因此我們明定中央主管機關應根據實務狀況與其執行量能,定定海洋保育的目標與其成,並且要定期檢討。」這是我的第二條第一項,那希望大家能夠支持,謝謝大家。 |
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臺灣四面環海,海洋面積臺灣陸地面積1.78倍。 |
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法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律 |
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海洋保護區、海洋庇護區審議會應有原住民代表。 |
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保護跟保育是兩個不同的概念保護是個體受到合理的對待享有福祉而保育是族群永續存活維繫生物的多樣性既然保育著重在族群跟他生活的一定範圍領域利用單靠政府的力量有他的極限必須運用民間的力量 |
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因此本席在草案第7條明定為了辦理海洋保護區海洋庇護區化社所成立的審議會相關利害關係團體包括原住民都應該有權利參與他的成員中也要有原住民的代表 |
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法草案。」第二、海洋保育法應該要有原住民共管機制。雖然原基法第22條規定政府與原住民族地區劃設國家公園、國家及風景特定區、林業區、生態保育區、遊樂區 |
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法及其他資源治理機關時應徵得當地原住民族同意並與原住民族建立共管機制,但是雖然原基法的授權並有原住民族地區資源的共同管理辦法作為原住民共管的法源依據,但是該共管辦法的第三條至第五條關於劃定資源治理區域前的規定跟海保法 |
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法草案第8條規劃定海洋庇護區後才擬定保育計劃已經有所衝突。行政院的草案第8條第4項雖然規定有海洋庇護區保育計劃的擬定,但是 |
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這只是一種強調性質的宣誓規定並沒有明確說明海洋庇護區是否有原住民共管機制的適用。原此我提出了修正動議在海保法中訂定共管機制的授權條款以上請大家支持謝謝 |
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謝謝吳麗華委員請徐鈺臻那再來我們請徐鈺臻委員提案說明主席還有各位同仁大家好 |
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為保育及利用海洋生態確保生物多樣性,防止海洋環境的劣化,促進海洋保育區域的整合規劃及執行,及尊重農民的生存權利,創造健康海域環境及促進資源永續,擬具海洋保育法草案。2014年 |
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聯合國大會通過聯合國的永續發展目標,促進擴大全球海洋保護區範圍與促進現有的海洋保護區的有效管理,作為養護海洋及其生態系統的主要工具。台灣本島位於全球海洋生物性多樣化最高的東印度群島之 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人� |
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海洋保育其實我們現在已經有非常多的一個保育的這個相關的法規例如野生動物保護法、國家公園法、漁業法、水下文化資產保存法、文化資產保存法、濕地保育法、海岸管理法、國土計劃法、都市計劃法及發展觀光條例和對於海洋生物多樣性與生態的這個系統長期養護目標之規範有所不足所以本 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案案。 |
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審查委員 |
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我想海洋因為佔地面的表面面積70%在生態的平衡上提供全球的碳循環能量的傳遞之功能攸關全球的氣候之變遷在交通運輸上提供全球貿易90%的貨運量在資源運償上提供豐富的生物以及生物的資源那我想在海洋休閒觀光產業上提供了開放中的國家低度開發國家小島開發國家永續發展的機會海洋生態的 |
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系統、健康與繁榮是人類生存和發展的基礎。人類生存所需的水、天氣、氣候、海洋線、食物與氧氣等皆有仰賴海洋系統的調節,但如今海洋環境卻遭 |
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受日益嚴重的威脅與破壞。目前國際公認畫設海洋保護區是富裕漁園最簡單、最經濟、最有效的方式,也是未來恢復漁業資源以及保育海洋生物多樣性的不二法門。近年來國際大力提倡我們應該以空間區域為基礎或以自然為基礎的保育措施, |
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2020年全球海洋聯盟也發起了一個倡議活動以2030年為目標我們希望全球的海洋30%劃入保護區的範圍有鑒於現行各項的法規對海洋生物多樣性與海洋生態性長期養護的目的規範現在有所不足且主管機關 |
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已經難以統一發揮其效益,所以我向《海洋保育法》草案擴大保育海洋生物,強化規範及整合海洋保護區,以確保台灣生物多樣性能永續發展。 |
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謝謝主席我們台灣四面環海海岸線全長大約是1500多公里作為一個海洋國家我們在海洋保育上確實要更加的努力海委會在2018年4月正式成立之後除了確立為我國海洋事務之統合機關 |
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水資調整海洋事務管理權責。」那更重要的是,徵修與海洋相關的法律,包括今天要審議的海保法草案。海委會更是持續研修、溝通了4年以上。謝謝主委跟所有同仁的努力,也謝謝所有關心的專家、學者、民間團體。那現在全球只有2.5%的海洋受到高度的保護,而公海是不足1%受完全保護。 |
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2023年3月4日聯合國正式通過《全球海洋公約》,預期將保護全球30%的海洋,並預測在2030年前完成,可以顯見保護全球海洋逐漸是全球的共識。 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具:「海洋保育法草案。 |
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運作的獨立性跟公正性以及各界團體代表性跟均衡性,因此針對審議會組成擬定除政府有關機關代表之外,民間的專家學者、組織團體、相關適當的人員、相關法人代表人數不得少於委員總人數的三分之二。也就是說本期希望所有關心海洋議題的環保、海洋保育、動保、 |
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海洋保育法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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接下來我們請鄭天才委員提案說明 |
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草案案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。八、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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《原住民族基本法》第20條也規定政府承認原住民族自然資源的權利。《原住民族基本法》第34條特別規定 |
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政府制定法例的時候要把這個研究法所規定的要把它納入進去。海洋基本法第10條也規定政府應保障已傳承原住民族傳統用海文化及潛意。海洋基本法第13條也規定要保障擁有海域使用者的潛意。 |
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海洋基本法第16條也規定政府制定法例應該要依海洋基本法的原則。剛才我念的那兩條條文的規定應該要落實在海洋保育法裡面。所以我特別在我的草案裡面特別提到這個海洋保育法的草案第6條特別提到 |
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整體海洋保護區管制政策方針應尊重、維護、保存傳統用海智慧等海洋文化資產,保障與傳承原住民族傳統用海文化及權益。我特別也在我的草案《海洋保育法》 |
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第6、第7條裏面特別規定第一項海洋屁股期之劃定基準變更廢止以其程序及相關事項之辦法應由中央主管機關 |
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會商農業主管機關以及原住民族籍主管機關來定定。我也特別在海洋保育法草案的第8條特別規定海洋庇護區保育計劃的擬定應該要以當地的原住民族 |
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或部落諮商並取得及同意。」所以這樣的條文是就是要落實原住民族基本法以及海洋基本法。希望我們所有的委員以及相關的部會能夠支持。以上。來,謝謝。我們感謝提案說明。我們請黃姐提案說明。嗨。 |
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主席跟各位同仁大家好因為《海洋基本法》在2019年11月1號相互通過之後奠定了我國對於海洋事務管理法規的框架也有明定我國應該要在兩年內就檢討現有的法規來制定《海洋保育法》《海域空間管理法》《海洋產業發展條例》所以其實我們是有時間的限制的那大家熟知的這個《海洋三法》就是以上三法 |
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《海洋產業發展條例》去年通過了,現在設下《海洋空間管理法》跟《海洋保育法》,需要我們立法院的同仁一起來努力。那去年5月聯合國也有宣布通過《全球海洋公約》,宣示說2030年前必須要保護至少30%的海洋。 |
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法律約束令國際文書規範全球設立海洋保護區。雖然台灣不是聯合國議員,但是台灣就是一個不折不扣的海洋國家,所以我們必須要重視海洋生物的資源非常豐富,漁業的產值一年將近355億以上。 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。八、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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法草案案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。五、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。七、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。八、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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法草案。另外在行為人違法但主管機關敗於執法的時候,受害的人民跟公益團體可以對於主管機關提起行政訴訟。我認為海洋保育的工作真的不能再等了,希望大家在這個會期就介入逐條審查,並且讓海洋保育法順利的來通過。 |
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來,謝謝,感謝我們黃姐的委員提案說明。現在我們列席的機關,開會是有準備的書面報告,請委員自行參閱,並刊登公報,令183年3月25日早開之公聽會報告的書格,請委員參閱。 |
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還有我們休息三分鐘,已經運足了來,有我們臨時提案,給大家看看。 |
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來,我們家先讀臨時提案。來,主委有什麼問題嗎?這樣我們等一會兒,再協商一下,再休息三分鐘。 |
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來等一下我們休息10分鐘。」 |
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審查委員王美惠等17人擬具、「海洋保育法草案案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件、海洋保育法草案案件 |
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保育法草案案。有鑒於臺灣四面環海人民生活與海洋生態發展息息相關,除了應維護海洋生態環境,也必須同時兼顧漁民權益及原住民族傳統文化,使符合海洋永續發展。然行政院版《海洋保育法草案》其制定過程中未完成有用海需求的漁民及原住民族基層溝通, |
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立法後將擴大禁限制區域,也加重管制強度,可能影響漁民捕撈權益及原住民族傳統領域及海域影響重大。由於臺灣進行海洋保育工作呈現多頭馬車,確實需要制定海洋保育法才能有效執行。但在海洋保育與照顧漁民及原住民族菅義取得平衡,才是臺灣邁向優質海洋國家的重要因素,原此要求海洋委員會海洋保育署 |
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因於一個月內全國分區含離島辦理5場公聽會,邀集相關部會官員、專家學者與會與民及原住民族各族部落族人等傾聽各代表意見納入其建言。四、公聽會程序完成並將公聽會報告送交內政委員會後,使進行條文審查以求立法之完善周延。提案人高金素美委員等9人。宣讀完畢。好,呈現現場的意見。 |
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草案案 通過。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具 |
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我們來宣讀議程新增的審查委員所提的版本條文,請宣讀。 |
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《海洋保育法草案》案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。四、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。三、審查委員王美惠等16人擬具《海洋保育法草案》案。 |
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5937.848 |
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5946.225 |
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那本次會議所排定的海洋保育法草案均令定期繼續審查。那本次會議到此結束,現在散會。 |