| IVOD_ID |
157656 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157656 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-28T13:18:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-28T13:24:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9b765842ec257966247705966473dc92ddac5fd2c67d7ae1c65110af43dc70900754f09c682f03845ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:18:56 - 13:24:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金預算。
五、審查113年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案計2案。
【第一案至第四案僅進行詢答；委員預算提案於12月16日中午12時前截止收件】） |
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主席有請通傳會主秘請NCC黃主秘委員好主秘我想請教您2016年到2020年NCC編列的訴訟費預算平均數大概是多少 |
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我告訴你好了一百零五萬如果說數據有落差你在事後告訴我那我想請教你2021年到2025年平均預算編列大概多少我們現在在編了一千萬我們114年編列 |
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我跟你講那數據有落差在告訴我平均編列是790萬這5年平均我想請問為什麼短短幾年訴訟費平均可以暴漲7倍是發生什麼事情?是剛剛委員報告因為上次我最主要是一個是我們整個制度的改變本來有訴願先行現在已經沒有訴願先行我告訴你總共我幫你算了一下 |
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這五年你暴漲七倍花掉人民納稅錢四千萬祖密請問你薪水多少?你現在幾值等?我現在十二值等十二值等薪水大概是多少?你年薪?年薪阿有沒有兩百?沒有?一百五有沒有?有有嘛一百五阿我告訴你如果以年薪一百五十萬來算的話可以請二十六個一年可以請二十六個主任秘書啦我就要問阿 |
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以前的NCC不用花這麼多的訴訟費你浪費公安花了四千萬請問這四千萬誰出啊?你出嗎?祖密你出嗎?我先問你誰出?這四千萬誰出?機關出啊?錯!這是誰出?納稅人出的機關錢誰來的?這四千萬陳耀祥出的嗎? |
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不是機關出的納稅人出的那我告訴你你答不出來為什麼訴訟費暴漲7倍我告訴你就很簡單就是因為中天就這麼簡單 |
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中天NCC亂罰中天亂搞的結果結果呢中天不斷的勝訴我當然你們也講你們有勝訴的部分啦我知道啦你們標準答案啦可是我告訴你行政處分行政法院啊通常行政機關勝訴率是非常高的那以到目前為止NCC對於中天總裁罰金額大概是多少25件多少金額連這個都搞不清楚 |
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一一五八一一五八但是中間提醒行政訴訟到目前為止判決確定撤銷罰款多少目前為止確定撤銷的兩不是兩百兩兩百二十萬兩百二十萬對判決撤銷還沒確定的多少兩百六十萬啦我告訴你啦 |
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以及你的罰的裡面就有4成被撤銷或者是判撤銷還沒確定我告訴你比起任何行政機關我中研中NCE有一個字叫廢啦廢透了啦你去舉任何一個行政機關今天在行政法院的訴訟有像你今天敗訴率這麼高的人講一個機關給我聽你是不是第一名 |
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有沒有講一個機關給我聽不清楚阿我告訴你你要心知肚明阿今天你的判罰金有4成被法院否定的話我告訴你全世界不要講中華民國的行政機關全世界找不到這麼廢的機關阿現在中華民國阿我跟各位說對NCC今天本來應該是要捍衛新聞自由的單位 |
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今天為了去迎合特定政黨、前置媒體竟然可以衝出來做所謂打壓新聞自由的打手最後呢被法院打臉一而再、再而三的敗訴我告訴你祖密我不怪你啦你只是行政事務官啦那些可惡的人拍在屁股就走了啦 |
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我就直接說陳耀祥是新聞自由的徒夫徒夫今天台灣的新聞自由最大的污點就是陳耀祥做出來的所以今天我不知道NCC你到底還有什麼臉再繼續編輸送費用啦你是要告訴我你輸送費用還是要一直打官司一直輸然後去大費人民公帑我再來最後還是問你啊這錢誰出的再告訴我一次最後還是那些人出的答對了 |
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難怪你們不要不警的啦無所謂啦我告訴你你不要跟我講你個人觀感你個人觀感在跟人民的落差多大是一回事今天從績效來講你多增7倍4000萬4000萬是小數目嗎?不是小數字對啊可以抵你26年的薪水 |
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可以抵你26年的薪水所有的這個程序其實跟委員報告了我告訴你你不用報告了你今天要再幫陳耀祥擦屁股我知道你都為難了可是今天將來NCC的訴訟費好好檢討謝謝 |
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主席，有請通傳會主秘。 |
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請NCC黃主秘。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲 |
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委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2024-11-28T13:18:59.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:01.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
主秘，我想請教您，2016年到2020年，NCC編列的訴訟費，預算平均數大概是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:20.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:25.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
我告訴你好了，105萬，如果說數據有落差，你再事後告訴我。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:26.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:33.008000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
那我想請教您，2021年到2025年，平均預算編列大概多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:33.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:35.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
我們現在編了…… |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
蔡處長志儒 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:36.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:36.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
我們114年編列…… |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:45.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:46.834000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
我跟你講啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:47.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:51.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
數據有落差再告訴我，平均編列是790萬，這5年的平均啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:52.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:57.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
我想請問，為什麼短短幾年訴訟費平均可以暴漲7倍？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-11-28T13:19:57.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2024-11-28T13:19:58.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
是發生什麼事情？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:02.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:04.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
最主要是我們整個制度的改變。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:04.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:06.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
制度改變？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:06.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:08.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
本來有訴願先行，現在已經沒有訴願先行，直接進入…… |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:09.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:17.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
我告訴你，我幫你算了一下，這5年你暴漲7倍，總共花掉人民納稅錢4,000萬！ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:18.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:18.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
主秘，請問你薪水多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:20.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:20.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
你現在幾職等？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:21.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:22.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
我現在12職等。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:22.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:23.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
12職等的薪水大概是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:23.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:24.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
我現在目前…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:24.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:26.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
以年薪。年薪…… |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:27.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:28.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
有沒有200萬？沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:29.085000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:30.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
150萬有沒有？有。有嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:31.626000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:38.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
150萬，我告訴你，如果以年薪150萬來算的話，可以請26個，一年可以請26個主任秘書啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:38.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:38.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
我就要問啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:42.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:46.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
以前的NCC不用花這麼多訴訟費，你浪費公帑花了4,000萬，請問這4,000萬是誰出？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.577000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
你出嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
主秘，你出嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:48.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
我想是我們機關出。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
我現在問你誰出？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:47.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:48.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
這4,000萬誰出？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:48.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:48.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
是我們機關出。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:48.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
機關出？是。錯！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.319000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
這是誰出？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.639000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
納稅人出的！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
機關錢從誰來的？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:50.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
納稅人。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-11-28T13:20:49.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-11-28T13:20:50.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
這4,000萬是陳耀祥出的嗎？不是。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:07.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-11-28T13:21:09.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
不是，機關出的，納稅人出的。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:11.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-11-28T13:21:17.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
你答不出來為什麼訴訟費暴漲7倍，我告訴你，很簡單，就是因為中天，就這麼簡單。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:20.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-11-28T13:21:28.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
NCC亂罰中天，亂搞的結果是中天不斷地勝訴，當然你們也講你們有勝訴的部分，我知道啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:29.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-11-28T13:21:43.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
你們的標準答案，可是我告訴你，行政處分、行政法院，通常行政機關的勝訴率是非常高的，到目前為止，NCC對於中天總裁罰金額大概是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:44.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-11-28T13:21:44.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
25件多少金額？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:44.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-11-28T13:21:45.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
連這個都搞不清楚？1,158萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:52.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-11-28T13:21:57.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
1,158萬，但是中天提起行政訴訟，到目前為止，判決確定撤銷罰鍰多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-11-28T13:21:57.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:04.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
目前為止確定撤銷的。220萬。220萬，對。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:04.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:09.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
判決撤銷還沒確定的多少？260萬啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:09.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:09.951000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我告訴你啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:11.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:22.954000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
你罰的裡面已經有四成被撤銷或者是判撤銷還沒確定，我告訴你，比起任何行政機關，我送給NCC就一個字，叫「廢」啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.854 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:24.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:25.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
廢透了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:26.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:34.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你去舉任何一個行政機關在行政法院的訴訟，有像你今天敗訴率這麼高的，你講一個機關給我聽！ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:34.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:34.624000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
你是不是第1名？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:36.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:37.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:37.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:39.495000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
講一個機關給我聽。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:39.495000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:39.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
這一部分我不清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:39.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:40.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
不清楚啊？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:40.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:42.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我告訴你，你要心知肚明啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:44.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-11-28T13:22:53.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
今天你的判罰金額有四成被法院否定的話，我告訴你，不要講中華民國的行政機關，全世界找不到這麼廢的機關啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.936 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-11-28T13:22:55.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:24.334000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
現在中華民國，我跟各位說，NCC本來應該是捍衛新聞自由的單位，今天為了去迎合特定政黨，箝制媒體，竟然可以衝出來作為打壓新聞自由的打手，最後被法院打臉，一而再、再而三的敗訴，我告訴你，主秘，我不怪你啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:24.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:29.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你只是行政事務官，那些可惡的人拍拍屁股就走了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:30.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:34.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
我就直接說，陳耀祥是新聞自由的屠夫！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:35.634000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:51.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
今天臺灣的新聞自由最大的污點就是陳耀祥做出來的，所以今天我不知道NCC你到底還有什麼臉再繼續編訴訟費用，你是不是要告訴我你還是要一直打官司一直輸，然後去浪費人民公帑？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.937 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:51.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:53.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
我最後還有追問你啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:53.970000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:54.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
這錢誰出的？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:54.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:54.910000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
再告訴我一次。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:56.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-11-28T13:23:57.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
最後還是納稅人出。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-11-28T13:23:58.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:01.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
答對了，難怪你們不要不緊的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:02.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:03.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
無所謂啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:03.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:04.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
不會，我們…… |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:03.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:09.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我告訴你，你不要跟我講你個人觀感，你個人觀感跟人民的落差多大是一回事，今天從績效來講，你多增7倍，4,000萬！ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:09.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:10.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
4,000萬是小數目啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:10.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:11.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
主秘，是小數目嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:10.157000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:10.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
不是小數字。對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:10.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:10.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
可以抵你26年的薪水欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:25.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:27.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
可以抵你26年的薪水欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:27.699000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:29.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
是，所有的程序，其實跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:30.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:31.843000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
我告訴你，你不用報告了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:31.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:34.626000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
你今天還是在幫陳耀祥擦屁股，我知道你的為難啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:35.687000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:39.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
可是將來NCC的訴訟費，好好檢討啦！是，會。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:39.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:41.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
謝謝羅智強委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:42.170000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:45.598571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
接下來邀請張啓楷委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:45.898571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:51.327143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
張啓楷委員、張啓楷委員、張啓楷委員不在現場。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:51.627143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-11-28T13:24:55.055714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
接下來邀請黃國昌委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-11-28T13:24:55.355714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2024-11-28T13:25:00.784286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
黃國昌委員、黃國昌委員、黃國昌委員不在現場。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-11-28T13:25:01.084286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-11-28T13:25:04.512857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
接下來邀請葉元之委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| gazette.lineno |
1249 |
| gazette.blocks[0][0] |
羅委員智強：（13時18分）主席，有請通傳會主秘。 |
| gazette.blocks[1][0] |
主席：請NCC黃主秘。 |
| gazette.blocks[2][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：委員好。 |
| gazette.blocks[3][0] |
羅委員智強：主秘，我想請教您，2016年到2020年，NCC編列的訴訟費，預算平均數大概是多少？我告訴你好了，105萬，如果說數據有落差，你再事後告訴我。 |
| gazette.blocks[4][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：好。 |
| gazette.blocks[5][0] |
羅委員智強：那我想請教您，2021年到2025年，平均預算編列大概多少？ |
| gazette.blocks[6][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：我們現在編了…… |
| gazette.blocks[7][0] |
蔡處長志儒：我們114年編列…… |
| gazette.blocks[8][0] |
羅委員智強：我跟你講啦！數據有落差再告訴我，平均編列是790萬，這5年的平均啦！我想請問，為什麼短短幾年訴訟費平均可以暴漲7倍？是發生什麼事情？ |
| gazette.blocks[9][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：最主要是我們整個制度的改變。 |
| gazette.blocks[10][0] |
羅委員智強：制度改變？ |
| gazette.blocks[11][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：本來有訴願先行，現在已經沒有訴願先行，直接進入…… |
| gazette.blocks[12][0] |
羅委員智強：我告訴你，我幫你算了一下，這5年你暴漲7倍，總共花掉人民納稅錢4,000萬！主秘，請問你薪水多少？你現在幾職等？ |
| gazette.blocks[13][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：我現在12職等。 |
| gazette.blocks[14][0] |
羅委員智強：12職等的薪水大概是多少？ |
| gazette.blocks[15][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：我現在目前…… |
| gazette.blocks[16][0] |
羅委員智強：以年薪。 |
| gazette.blocks[17][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：年薪…… |
| gazette.blocks[18][0] |
羅委員智強：有沒有200萬？沒有？150萬有沒有？ |
| gazette.blocks[19][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：有。 |
| gazette.blocks[20][0] |
羅委員智強：有嘛！150萬，我告訴你，如果以年薪150萬來算的話，可以請26個，一年可以請26個主任秘書啦！我就要問啊！以前的NCC不用花這麼多訴訟費，你浪費公帑花了4,000萬，請問這4,000萬是誰出？你出嗎？主秘，你出嗎？ |
| gazette.blocks[21][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：我想是我們機關出。 |
| gazette.blocks[22][0] |
羅委員智強：我現在問你誰出？這4,000萬誰出？ |
| gazette.blocks[23][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：是我們機關出。 |
| gazette.blocks[24][0] |
羅委員智強：機關出？ |
| gazette.blocks[25][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：是。 |
| gazette.blocks[26][0] |
羅委員智強：錯！這是誰出？納稅人出的！機關錢從誰來的？ |
| gazette.blocks[27][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：納稅人。 |
| gazette.blocks[28][0] |
羅委員智強：這4,000萬是陳耀祥出的嗎？ |
| gazette.blocks[29][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：不是。 |
| gazette.blocks[30][0] |
羅委員智強：不是，機關出的，納稅人出的。你答不出來為什麼訴訟費暴漲7倍，我告訴你，很簡單，就是因為中天，就這麼簡單。NCC亂罰中天，亂搞的結果是中天不斷地勝訴，當然你們也講你們有勝訴的部分，我知道啦！你們的標準答案，可是我告訴你，行政處分、行政法院，通常行政機關的勝訴率是非常高的，到目前為止，NCC對於中天總裁罰金額大概是多少？25件多少金額？連這個都搞不清楚？ |
| gazette.blocks[31][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲：1,158萬。 |
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羅委員智強：1,158萬，但是中天提起行政訴訟，到目前為止，判決確定撤銷罰鍰多少？目前為止確定撤銷的。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲：220萬。 |
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羅委員智強：220萬，對。判決撤銷還沒確定的多少？260萬啦！我告訴你啦！你罰的裡面已經有四成被撤銷或者是判撤銷還沒確定，我告訴你，比起任何行政機關，我送給NCC就一個字，叫「廢」啦！廢透了啦！你去舉任何一個行政機關在行政法院的訴訟，有像你今天敗訴率這麼高的，你講一個機關給我聽！你是不是第1名？有沒有？講一個機關給我聽。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲：這一部分我不清楚。 |
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羅委員智強：不清楚啊？ |
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黃主任秘書文哲：是。 |
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羅委員智強：我告訴你，你要心知肚明啦！今天你的判罰金額有四成被法院否定的話，我告訴你，不要講中華民國的行政機關，全世界找不到這麼廢的機關啦！現在中華民國，我跟各位說，NCC本來應該是捍衛新聞自由的單位，今天為了去迎合特定政黨，箝制媒體，竟然可以衝出來作為打壓新聞自由的打手，最後被法院打臉，一而再、再而三的敗訴，我告訴你，主秘，我不怪你啦！你只是行政事務官，那些可惡的人拍拍屁股就走了啦！我就直接說，陳耀祥是新聞自由的屠夫！今天臺灣的新聞自由最大的污點就是陳耀祥做出來的，所以今天我不知道NCC你到底還有什麼臉再繼續編訴訟費用，你是不是要告訴我你還是要一直打官司一直輸，然後去浪費人民公帑？我最後還有追問你啊！這錢誰出的？再告訴我一次。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲：最後還是納稅人出。 |
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羅委員智強：答對了，難怪你們不要不緊的啦！無所謂啦！ |
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黃主任秘書文哲：不會，我們…… |
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羅委員智強：我告訴你，你不要跟我講你個人觀感，你個人觀感跟人民的落差多大是一回事，今天從績效來講，你多增7倍，4,000萬！4,000萬是小數目啊？主秘，是小數目嗎？ |
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黃主任秘書文哲：不是小數字。 |
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羅委員智強：對啊！可以抵你26年的薪水欸！可以抵你26年的薪水欸！ |
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黃主任秘書文哲：是，所有的程序，其實跟委員報告…… |
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羅委員智強：我告訴你，你不用報告了啦！你今天還是在幫陳耀祥擦屁股，我知道你的為難啦！可是將來NCC的訴訟費，好好檢討啦！ |
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黃主任秘書文哲：是，會。 |
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羅委員智強：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝羅智強委員。 |
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接下來邀請張啓楷委員發言。張啓楷委員、張啓楷委員、張啓楷委員不在現場。 |
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接下來邀請黃國昌委員發言。黃國昌委員、黃國昌委員、黃國昌委員不在現場。 |
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接下來邀請葉元之委員發言。 |
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134 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-2-23-12 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
陳素月 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
林國成 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
李昆澤 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
魯明哲 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
林沛祥 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
許智傑 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
林俊憲 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
黃健豪 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
廖先翔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
徐富癸 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
林淑芬 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
蔡其昌 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
游顥 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
邱若華 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
何欣純 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[18] |
林月琴 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[19] |
羅智強 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[20] |
葉元之 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[21] |
伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[22] |
王鴻薇 |
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55 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2024-11-28 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
11310801 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
11310801_00003 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算；二、審查114年度中央
政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算；三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位
預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算；四、審查114年度中
央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基
金預算；五、審查113 年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案計 2 案
（第一案至第四案僅進行詢答） |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
11310801_00002 |