| IVOD_ID |
157652 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157652 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-28T12:48:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-28T12:54:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9b765842ec2579666414d3dcb561ac60ddac5fd2c67d7ae1c65110af43dc7090f08deeda106faf485ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:48:22 - 12:54:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金預算。
五、審查113年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案計2案。
【第一案至第四案僅進行詢答;委員預算提案於12月16日中午12時前截止收件】) |
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謝謝主席及各位先進有請NCC的長官來NCC主秘黃主秘委員好請教黃主秘你知道有簡訊111簡訊謝謝 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算 |
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主要你注意看到喔今天早上11月28號今天早上剛通過行政院通過喔剛通過新世代打擊策略行動綱領剛通過 |
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非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播監非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播監非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播監非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播監非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播監 |
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查到的偽造基地台還NCC敗訴哩為什麼敗訴啊?群雲為什麼敗訴啊?你不知道偽造基地台沒敗訴幹什麼?吃飯的啊跟委員報告一下就是法官對於我們加重委員會再加重處罰部分他認為那一個犯罪的時間跟我們採取的時間沒有一致所以他撥渾但我們已經有上訴了 |
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三級、四級能不能查偽造基地台 |
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三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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跟委員報告2G的這個基地台的認證手機的認證方式比較弱一點3G、4G是雙方要認證所以他在這個做偽冒的所以3G、4G你們抓不到就對了不是抓不到是他根本進不了這個我們的網路他根本詐騙不了你到網路市場去買就可以買到3G、4G3G、4G的手機是一回事啊對能不能夠詐騙到是另外一回事啊就已經有啦沒有現在只有2G |
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三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算 |
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228.51 |
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235.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
所以市民站沒有?可是馬來西亞、泰國、韓國就有這種機器啊馬來西亞、韓國、泰國都有啊我們會加強我們在我們的電信公司的網路、網管這邊我們只要偵測到任何一個基地台有異常的使用行為的話我們的就會直接通報我們的電偵隊大隊長去針對這些現場去看我問你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
259.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
287.205 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
馬來西亞、韓國、泰國有3G的偽造台偽造台這個對吧他們有什麼我不知道在台灣目前的話因為3G、4G必須要雙向認證所以呢即便他用這個技術他也詐騙不到現在目前的話就是因為2G的部分2G他只有一個Login的認證而已而沒有雙向認證所以這一部分的話我們才會有去年去年跟今年呢總共有三個案件所以你們2G是要雙向認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
288.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
293.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
319.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
336.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
您可不可以針對我剛才提的問題,普及的現,二級的現況,以及三級、四級現在為什麼做不到,提一個書面報告可以嗎?可以嗎?好,我提個書面報告給委員。給我,還要給交通委員會。好,沒問題。好不好?沒問題。多久時間? |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
343.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
365.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
兩個禮拜兩個禮拜兩個禮拜給委員報告好公開喔兩個禮拜提供一個普及的情況三級、四級為什麼其他的國家都有那你現在我看不出來你有一個防制的說法沒有看到好不好你們說一下置物業者說一下為什麼做不到好不好好OK委員詳細報告 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:22.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:27.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席及各位先進,有請NCC的長官黃主秘。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
主席(何委員欣純代) |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:28.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:29.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
請NCC主秘。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:30.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:30.753000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:30.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:31.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
請教黃主秘,111簡訊有被偽冒,你知道嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.533 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:31.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:36.485250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
對,這個案例我已經知道了,在高雄跟新竹都有各發生過。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.043 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:36.485250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:41.677500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
可是我們看到NCC沒有作為啊! |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:41.677500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:46.869750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
而且你現在講的是它都透過2G轉發,2年只有抓到3臺機器。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:46.869750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:52.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
是你沒有資源,還是沒有主動查? |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.077 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:52.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2024-11-28T12:48:57.254250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
跟委員報告,這個部分的話我們一直在協調業者,我們積極在聯防當中。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.069 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2024-11-28T12:48:57.254250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:02.446500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
2年才抓到3臺機器? |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:02.446500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:07.638750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
那請問…… |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:07.638750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:12.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
那個就是因為我們有在聯防,所以這些歹徒才沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:12.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:13.471000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
主秘,你注意看到哦! |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:14.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:16.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
11月28號今天早上行政院剛通過新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:16.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:16.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
剛通過! |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:16.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:22.703889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
brand new! |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:22.703889+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:28.535778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
燒燙燙的! |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:28.535778+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:34.367667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
NCC完全沒有把查緝偽造基地臺納入耶! |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:34.367667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:40.199556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
你們沒有把這個當作一回事!不會!不會! |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:40.199556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:46.031444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
沒有啊! |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:46.031444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:51.863333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
就沒有啊! |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:51.863333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2024-11-28T12:49:57.695222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
行政院剛開完會啊! |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-11-28T12:49:57.695222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:03.527111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
打詐2.0它這只是綱領,我們細部的各項措施持續在進行當中。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.04 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:03.527111+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:09.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
跟委員報告,之前偽基的就是我們抓到的。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:09.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:13.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
去年你們抓到、查到的偽造基地臺,還NCC敗訴。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:13.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:13.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
去年為什麼敗訴? |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:16.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:19.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
你們抓到偽造基地臺,你們敗訴,幹什麼吃飯的啊? |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
蔡處長國棟 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:20.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:31.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
跟委員報告一下,就是法官對於我們委員會在加重處罰部分,他認為那個犯罪的時間跟我們裁處的時間沒有一致,所以他駁回,但我們已經有上訴了。是啊! |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:31.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:32.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
你們要抓偽造基地臺…… |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:32.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:33.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
不管怎麼樣…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:33.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:34.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
沒有人反對啊! |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:34.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:35.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
怎麼會你們打官司還打輸啊? |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:35.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:36.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
這個真漏氣! |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:36.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:37.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
NCC真漏氣! |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:37.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:38.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
我們那個錢罰得不對。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:38.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:39.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
就是法官抓到我們那個錢罰得不對……是啊! |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:39.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:40.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
這代表你們踢踢踏踏,你們螺絲掉滿地啊! |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:40.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:41.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
金額不對啦! |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:41.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:42.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
金額不對、方式也不對,取締也不對。不是!不是! |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:34.660000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:37.121000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
請問你,3G、4G能不能查偽造基地臺? |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:37.121000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:44.360667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
你們現在只有查2G耶! |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.111 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:44.360667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:51.600333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
3G、4G可不可以?不是! |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:51.600333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-11-28T12:50:58.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
這裡所謂的2G、3G在講的是它所發射的頻率啦!對。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-11-28T12:50:58.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:06.079667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
這些歹徒就是要想辦法,透過各式各樣不同的頻率在發射…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:06.079667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:13.319333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
請問你們有沒有抓3G、4G? |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:13.319333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:20.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
你就回答這個問題啦! |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
蔡處長國棟 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:20.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:30.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
跟委員報告,2G基地臺的認證,手機的認證方式比較弱一點,3G、4G是雙方要認證,所以他在做偽冒的…… |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:30.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:32.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
所以3G、4G你們抓不到就對了? |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
蔡處長國棟 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:32.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:34.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
不是抓不到,是它根本進不了我們的網路。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:34.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:35.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
他根本詐騙不了。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:35.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:36.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
這就怪了! |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:35.363000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:36.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你到網路市場去買,就可以買到3G、4G。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:36.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:37.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
這就怪了!不是! |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:36.543000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:36.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
3G、4G的手機是一回事…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:36.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:37.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
人家市面上都可以買得到。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:36.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:37.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
對,能不能詐騙倒是另外一回事啦! |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:37.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:37.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
就已經有了啊! |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:37.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:38.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
沒有,現在只有2G。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:38.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:41.289700+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
現在就有3G、4G啊! |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:41.289700+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:44.536400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
網路市面上都可以買,你去買看看。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
蔡處長國棟 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:44.536400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:47.783100+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
跟委員報告,這個…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:47.783100+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:51.029800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
你們有沒有努力問一下? |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:51.029800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:54.276500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
去買看看,有沒有? |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:54.276500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-11-28T12:51:57.523200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
委員,你現在問的…… |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-11-28T12:51:57.523200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:00.769900+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
你們有沒有去買看看? |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:00.769900+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:04.016600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
委員問的是基地臺啦!對阿! |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:04.016600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:07.263300+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
基地臺,我跟你講基地臺啊! |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:07.263300+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:10.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
市面上沒有所謂的3G、4G,買得到的3G、4G是手機,不是基地臺。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:10.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:11.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
所以市面上沒有? |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:11.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:12.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
沒有這種基地臺。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:11.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:12.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
可是馬來西亞、泰國、韓國就有這種機器啊! |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:12.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:13.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
對,所以我們不准它…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:12.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:13.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
馬來西亞、韓國、泰國都有啊! |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:13.532000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:17.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我們會加強,我們在電信公司的網路、網管這邊,只要偵測到任何一個基地臺有異常的使用行為的話,我們就會直接通報我們的電偵隊大隊長去針對這些現場去看…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:17.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:17.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
主秘,我問你啦! |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:41.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:46.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
馬來西亞、韓國、泰國有3G的偽造臺,這樣對吧? |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:48.031000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-11-28T12:52:56.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
他們有什麼我不知道,但在臺灣目前的話,因為3G、4G必須要雙向認證,所以即便他用這個技術,他也詐騙不到。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-11-28T12:52:56.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:07.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
目前就是因為2G只有一個login的認證而已,而沒有雙向認證,所以這一部分的話,我們才會有去年跟今年總共有3個案件…… |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:07.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:09.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
所以你們2G是要雙向認證? |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:09.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:12.166455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
3G、4G都要雙向認證…… |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:12.166455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:15.127909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
都要雙向認證? |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
蔡處長國棟 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:15.127909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:18.089364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
2G只有單向。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:18.089364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:21.050818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
2G可以單向? |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:21.050818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:24.012273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
只要單向。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:24.012273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:26.973727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
就只有查到那3……那真的會笑死人! |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.154 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:26.973727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:29.935182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
你們偽造基地臺只有3臺,真的太漏氣了! |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:29.935182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:32.896636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
臺灣這麼少嗎? |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:32.896636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:35.858091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
就是因為這種方式是不容易詐騙,所以才會這麼少嘛! |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
黃主任秘書文哲 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2024-11-28T12:53:35.858091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2024-11-28T12:53:38.819545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
如果很容易詐騙得到,就很多啦! |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0 |
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黃主任秘書文哲 |
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1 |
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所以不管怎麼樣,你只要有詐騙發生,只要基地臺有異常使用行為,我們就會請電偵隊到現場去查。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:41.781000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:44.344000+08:00 |
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你可不可以針對我剛才提的問題…… |
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0.929 |
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黃主任秘書文哲 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:44.344000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:47.246000+08:00 |
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是,我向委員報告。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:47.246000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:55.734000+08:00 |
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2G的現況,以及3G、4G現在為什麼做不到,提一個書面報告可以嗎? |
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0.885 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:55.734000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:56.455000+08:00 |
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可以嗎? |
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1 |
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黃主任秘書文哲 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:56.455000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:57.336000+08:00 |
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好,我提個書面報告給委員。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:57.336000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:58.176000+08:00 |
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給我,還要給交通委員會,好不好? |
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1 |
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黃主任秘書文哲 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:58.557000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:58.657000+08:00 |
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好,沒問題。 |
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0.75 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:58.657000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:53:58.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
多久時間? |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:05.922000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:05.922000+08:00 |
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一個禮拜? |
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0.75 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:06.302000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:06.302000+08:00 |
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兩個禮拜? |
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1 |
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黃主任秘書文哲 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:08.103000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:08.883000+08:00 |
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兩個禮拜給委員報告。好。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:09.283000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:09.623000+08:00 |
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公開哦! |
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0.667 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:10.704000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:17.686000+08:00 |
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兩個禮拜提供一個2G的情況,3G、4G為什麼其他的國家都有? |
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0.875 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:18.907000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:22.848000+08:00 |
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我現在看不出來你防制的手法,好不好? |
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0.875 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:23.728000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:26.269000+08:00 |
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你們之乎也者說一下為什麼做不到。 |
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0.8 |
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黃主任秘書文哲 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:26.429000+08:00 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:27.030000+08:00 |
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好,我們再給委員詳細報告。 |
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0.636 |
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主席(陳委員素月) |
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2024-11-28T12:54:27.530000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:29.530000+08:00 |
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謝謝賴士葆委員。 |
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0 |
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主席(陳委員素月) |
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2024-11-28T12:54:29.830000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-11-28T12:54:33.258571+08:00 |
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接下來邀請鄭天財委員發言。 |
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賴委員士葆:(12時48分)謝謝主席及各位先進,有請NCC的長官黃主秘。 |
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主席(何委員欣純代):請NCC主秘。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲:委員好。 |
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賴委員士葆:請教黃主秘,111簡訊有被偽冒,你知道嗎? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:對,這個案例我已經知道了,在高雄跟新竹都有各發生過。 |
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賴委員士葆:可是我們看到NCC沒有作為啊!而且你現在講的是它都透過2G轉發,2年只有抓到3臺機器。是你沒有資源,還是沒有主動查? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:跟委員報告,這個部分的話我們一直在協調業者,我們積極在聯防當中。 |
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賴委員士葆:2年才抓到3臺機器?那請問…… |
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黃主任秘書文哲:那個就是因為我們有在聯防,所以這些歹徒才沒有…… |
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賴委員士葆:主秘,你注意看到哦!11月28號今天早上行政院剛通過新世代打擊詐欺策略行動綱領。剛通過!brand new!燒燙燙的!NCC完全沒有把查緝偽造基地臺納入耶!你們沒有把這個當作一回事! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:不會!不會! |
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賴委員士葆:沒有啊!就沒有啊!行政院剛開完會啊! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:打詐2.0它這只是綱領,我們細部的各項措施持續在進行當中。跟委員報告,之前偽基的就是我們抓到的。 |
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賴委員士葆:去年你們抓到、查到的偽造基地臺,還NCC敗訴。去年為什麼敗訴?你們抓到偽造基地臺,你們敗訴,幹什麼吃飯的啊? |
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蔡處長國棟:跟委員報告一下,就是法官對於我們委員會在加重處罰部分,他認為那個犯罪的時間跟我們裁處的時間沒有一致,所以他駁回,但我們已經有上訴了。 |
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賴委員士葆:是啊!你們要抓偽造基地臺…… |
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黃主任秘書文哲:不管怎麼樣…… |
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賴委員士葆:沒有人反對啊!怎麼會你們打官司還打輸啊?這個真漏氣!NCC真漏氣! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:我們那個錢罰得不對。就是法官抓到我們那個錢罰得不對…… |
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賴委員士葆:是啊!這代表你們踢踢踏踏,你們螺絲掉滿地啊! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:金額不對啦! |
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賴委員士葆:金額不對、方式也不對,取締也不對。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲:不是!不是! |
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賴委員士葆:請問你,3G、4G能不能查偽造基地臺?你們現在只有查2G耶!3G、4G可不可以? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:不是!這裡所謂的2G、3G在講的是它所發射的頻率啦! |
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賴委員士葆:對。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲:這些歹徒就是要想辦法,透過各式各樣不同的頻率在發射…… |
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賴委員士葆:請問你們有沒有抓3G、4G?你就回答這個問題啦! |
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蔡處長國棟:跟委員報告,2G基地臺的認證,手機的認證方式比較弱一點,3G、4G是雙方要認證,所以他在做偽冒的…… |
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賴委員士葆:所以3G、4G你們抓不到就對了? |
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蔡處長國棟:不是抓不到,是它根本進不了我們的網路。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲:他根本詐騙不了。 |
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賴委員士葆:這就怪了!你到網路市場去買,就可以買到3G、4G。這就怪了! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:不是!3G、4G的手機是一回事…… |
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賴委員士葆:人家市面上都可以買得到。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲:對,能不能詐騙倒是另外一回事啦! |
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賴委員士葆:就已經有了啊! |
| gazette.blocks[37][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲:沒有,現在只有2G。 |
| gazette.blocks[38][0] |
賴委員士葆:現在就有3G、4G啊!網路市面上都可以買,你去買看看。 |
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蔡處長國棟:跟委員報告,這個…… |
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賴委員士葆:你們有沒有努力問一下?去買看看,有沒有? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:委員,你現在問的…… |
| gazette.blocks[42][0] |
賴委員士葆:你們有沒有去買看看? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:委員問的是基地臺啦! |
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賴委員士葆:對阿!基地臺,我跟你講基地臺啊! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:市面上沒有所謂的3G、4G,買得到的3G、4G是手機,不是基地臺。 |
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賴委員士葆:所以市面上沒有? |
| gazette.blocks[47][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲:沒有這種基地臺。 |
| gazette.blocks[48][0] |
賴委員士葆:可是馬來西亞、泰國、韓國就有這種機器啊! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:對,所以我們不准它…… |
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賴委員士葆:馬來西亞、韓國、泰國都有啊! |
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黃主任秘書文哲:我們會加強,我們在電信公司的網路、網管這邊,只要偵測到任何一個基地臺有異常的使用行為的話,我們就會直接通報我們的電偵隊大隊長去針對這些現場去看…… |
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賴委員士葆:主秘,我問你啦!馬來西亞、韓國、泰國有3G的偽造臺,這樣對吧? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:他們有什麼我不知道,但在臺灣目前的話,因為3G、4G必須要雙向認證,所以即便他用這個技術,他也詐騙不到。目前就是因為2G只有一個login的認證而已,而沒有雙向認證,所以這一部分的話,我們才會有去年跟今年總共有3個案件…… |
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賴委員士葆:所以你們2G是要雙向認證? |
| gazette.blocks[55][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲:3G、4G都要雙向認證…… |
| gazette.blocks[56][0] |
賴委員士葆:都要雙向認證? |
| gazette.blocks[57][0] |
蔡處長國棟:2G只有單向。 |
| gazette.blocks[58][0] |
賴委員士葆:2G可以單向? |
| gazette.blocks[59][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲:只要單向。 |
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賴委員士葆:就只有查到那3……那真的會笑死人!你們偽造基地臺只有3臺,真的太漏氣了!臺灣這麼少嗎? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:就是因為這種方式是不容易詐騙,所以才會這麼少嘛!如果很容易詐騙得到,就很多啦!所以不管怎麼樣,你只要有詐騙發生,只要基地臺有異常使用行為,我們就會請電偵隊到現場去查。 |
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賴委員士葆:你可不可以針對我剛才提的問題…… |
| gazette.blocks[63][0] |
黃主任秘書文哲:是,我向委員報告。 |
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賴委員士葆:2G的現況,以及3G、4G現在為什麼做不到,提一個書面報告可以嗎?可以嗎? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:好,我提個書面報告給委員。 |
| gazette.blocks[66][0] |
賴委員士葆:給我,還要給交通委員會,好不好? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:好,沒問題。 |
| gazette.blocks[68][0] |
賴委員士葆:多久時間?一個禮拜?兩個禮拜? |
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黃主任秘書文哲:兩個禮拜給委員報告。 |
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賴委員士葆:好。公開哦!兩個禮拜提供一個2G的情況,3G、4G為什麼其他的國家都有?我現在看不出來你防制的手法,好不好?你們之乎也者說一下為什麼做不到。 |
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黃主任秘書文哲:好,我們再給委員詳細報告。 |
| gazette.blocks[72][0] |
主席(陳委員素月):謝謝賴士葆委員。 |
| gazette.blocks[72][1] |
接下來邀請鄭天財委員發言。 |
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134 |
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委員會-11-2-23-12 |
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陳素月 |
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林國成 |
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李昆澤 |
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魯明哲 |
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林沛祥 |
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許智傑 |
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林俊憲 |
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黃健豪 |
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廖先翔 |
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徐富癸 |
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林淑芬 |
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蔡其昌 |
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游顥 |
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邱若華 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
何欣純 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[18] |
林月琴 |
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羅智強 |
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葉元之 |
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伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
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王鴻薇 |
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55 |
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2024-11-28 |
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11310801 |
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11310801_00003 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算;二、審查114年度中央
政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算;三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位
預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算;四、審查114年度中
央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基
金預算;五、審查113 年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案計 2 案
(第一案至第四案僅進行詢答) |
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11310801_00002 |