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| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:18:27 - 11:25:46 |
| 影片長度 |
439 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於考試院及所屬主管收支部分。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院考選部主管「考選業務基金」收支部分。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院銓敘部主管「公務人員退休撫卹基金」收支部分。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於考試院銓敘部主管「公教人員個人專戶制退撫儲金基金」收支部分。
五、審查及處理113年度中央政府總預算關於考試院主管預算凍結項目共4案。
【第一案至第四案僅進行詢答；預算提案於12月3日中午12時截止收件】
【11月25日及27日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席本席有請我們的秘書長請劉秘書長還有保訓會的蔡主委 |
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委員長秘書長還有蔡主委近期內大家都知道全國矚目的勞動部霸凌案件公務人員保障法第77條我相信你們很清楚 |
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第一項規定公務人員對於服務機關所為之管理措施或是有關工作條件之處置認為不當者至影響其權益者得依本法提起申訴再申訴可是我們現在的公務人員包含勞動部的這個案例他已經很痛苦在水深火熱之中請問他有沒有向我們保訓會提出申訴有或沒有請回答 |
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收支部分 |
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公務員保障培訓委員會公務員保障培訓委員會公務員保障培訓委員會公務員保障培訓委員會 |
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收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部 |
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有經過單位然後再向保訓會申訴的案件過去5年來總共收到79件結果被保訓會駁回的有63件被你們撤銷的有9案不受理的有6案最後行政機關有作為的只有一案 |
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請問秘書長跟主委你們滿意嗎?現在因為過去五年這種情況讓公務人員根本都不敢也覺得沒有用所以讓一個生命他忍受到難以忍受自行解脫 |
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委員我要跟您報告一件事我們在解讀駁回這個數字的時候它裡面有兩種可能一個是沒有啦我現在是問你滿意不滿意嘛這種情況你很滿意這個情況嗎這個沒有辦法說滿意不滿意因為駁回的時候有可能是被處罰的那個人不服機關的處罰來保訓會這邊在申訴所以他的救濟是簡單講 |
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收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選 |
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那身為考試院不管哪一位首長 |
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都是讓台灣的文官制度更健全讓我們所有公務人員可以勇於認識我們也要保護他們還有他們工作職場他們的權益我們都該維護可是我們看到考試院因為過去憲法徵修條文之後感覺考試院就變成這個行政院底下的法治局本席對這個情況是非常非常不滿意的 |
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那我們是希望我們是希望考試院不管擔任哪一個職務我們真的要為我們台灣這個公務人員大家有好的工作環境還有好的整個的制度才能夠激勵公務人員的士氣我想在制度面我們會積極來檢討那剛剛委員講到就是說剛剛我們提的這79案你們可以詳細的給我給我說明跟報告嗎 |
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你個資可以不要,你用A軍、B軍或者是張圈圈我們要知道我們要知道這一個部分 |
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公務人員依據官等可以分檢任、建任跟委任三種。請教秘書長,你認為一個正常合理的組織結構應該是哪一個?請盡快回答。 |
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326.414 |
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所以現在我們的政府單位跟民間不一樣我們都是經理跟領班人數比基層員工多所以下命令的人多 |
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353.564 |
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373.554 |
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做事的人少?他不是這樣命令,其實中間的那個現任的部分他也是他也是小主管吧?小主管對啊,小主管多然後基層人員少但是我跟委員報告現在地方政府都在希望我們不要去一直規定一定要多少比例是委任的因為他們面對的事務越來越複雜每個承辦人其實都很多 |
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376.814 |
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收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分關於考試院考選部主管收支部分 |
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406.564 |
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組織裡面其實並不是不正常。 |
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436.343 |
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最後最後我看主席也站起來最後就是我們看到冰山的一角勞動署分署長他可以這樣子一路坐直升機升遷所以我們覺得機關用人跟升遷還是還是要能夠有一定的一個制度合理那對各種人事權我們希望考試院能夠有完整的憲法制度的這個權利這樣才是國家長治久安之道 |
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主席 |
| IVOD_ID |
157513 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157513 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-16 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T11:18:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T11:25:46+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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