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| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:44:52 - 10:55:25 |
| 影片長度 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算追加預算案。（詢答及處理）
【預算提案截止時間：11月26日（二）中午12時】） |
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委員好主席長我想我們還是要來討論一下因為其實最近因為我們是資深在立委擔任了17年所以國民黨最會用的就是說哇我們以前是支持財化法為什麼現在是反對我想對於財化法把我們的財務做一個比較適當的調配我相信沒有人會反對 |
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今天我們反對的是不公平的財化法不公平的財化法也就是中央跟地方所調配的沒有辦法符合全民共同的利益我們反對的是這樣的一個財化法 |
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主席長因為你從台南的主計單位一路到我們中央所以你非常清楚台南在整個我們得到中央的協助是非常非常重要的它變成是我們重大計劃很重要的一環尤其過去重北、清南 |
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所有的預算大概都集中在北部到了南部就是少之又少我們要去推動大型的建設包括交通或是我們生活圈道路根本上就是難上加難 |
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所以呢,我們用了很多當民進黨上任之後（很多的特別預算來做協助（這其實對於各縣市都是及時雨（我們反對的是不公平的財化法（台南土地面積是占了全國縣市的第7名（ |
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臺南的人口是全國縣市的第6名人口密度是全國縣市的第11名可是我們現在不論是國民黨的財化法版本或是民眾黨的財化法版本我們所得到的是用倒數的都是倒數的都是像中國國民黨的版本漲幅是全國第三低 |
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第三滴分配金額甚至是低於非六都縣市的彰化縣那民眾黨的版本試算我們漲幅是全國第4滴專攻喔結果我們的土地面積是全國縣市的第7名人口是全國縣市的第6名人口密度是全國縣市的第11名可是我們整個試算版本出來之後 |
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國民黨的版本全國漲幅第3低民眾黨版本全國漲幅第4低我們怎麼能夠接受這樣的版本我們反對的是這樣的不公平的版本而且你知道台南未來有多少的重大建設嗎我們有捷運藍線綠線 |
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而且都已經通過了我們的可行性評估在藍線的部分然後在省道改善的計劃這是一個廊道路網自衛運輸系統發展建設計劃還有我們的整個地震前兆觀測經濟計劃這很重要主計長你知道前陣子才前幾天而已 |
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我們台南的地震、余震連續好幾次大家嚇死了所以這個地震前兆觀測經濟計劃重不重要很重要因為現在大家都說可能下次的大地震會發生在南部也有可能發生在台南 |
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所以在地震前兆觀測經濟計劃極度重要還有公路公共運輸永續及交通平權計劃這對於台南來講都是未來極盡重要可是國民黨的才化法民眾的才化法對於台南來講根本就是把台南當孤兒 |
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把台南當孤兒不要說我今天是立委就算我是台南市民的一份子每個人絕對都是反對我們如果沒有站在市民的角度激勵反對的話我們當時是怎麼搞的他會說 |
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陳亭妃當時當書記長的時候,你也是支持財化吧?沒錯,我沒有反對過。 |
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我也認為好的財政劃分中央地方做一個好的調配讓中央可以有權去支應所有的串聯性你像現在我們用水計劃有一個叫珍珠串計劃那是在西部整個大串聯我們有一個智慧型AI也是要整個串聯 |
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這個都要中央啊每個地方如果你都分下去了中央要怎麼做一個全國性的計劃他就沒有武器可以做全國性的計劃那如果你各縣市你的想法又沒有那麼先進沒有跟著時代潮流在走世界潮流在走那卡住了某一個縣市那我們怎麼做全國的串聯 |
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所以我們不能只有好像擺在地方要怎麼做我們應該是中央的位階拉高全國性的串聯計劃你要給他武器地方有部分給地方大家好好來講為什麼要用這種方式而且是污衊式的抹黑式的這是極盡不公平 |
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所以主席長你認為現在這個僵局要怎麼解決這個僵局站在你對於整個財政主計你非常專業的角度你認為這個現在要怎麼去解 |
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因為事實上我本身是從臺南來那當初其實我是主張修財化法的時候是因為我連薪水都花不出來那我的舉債額度達到92.36那時候我是主張要修財化但是近年來都已經改善以我們現在來講我們以前有十幾個縣市都是短處那現在都是剩餘 |
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主席長,你剛剛講到一個重點 |
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就是說每一個時代背景的不同當時候我們提要修財化法是因為很多縣市都面臨短處根本錢也就是他的薪水都發不出來 |
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所以當時候的時代背景是這個樣子但是當民進黨上任之後我們利用一般縣市的補助款然後去做調和然後把所有的縣市短處的狀況完全改變現在都有盈餘啊不是短處啊甚至還透過專案補助的部分去協助各縣市去做建設這才是重點啊可是現在 |
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在野黨不講這一塊,把這一塊全部拿掉,然後就說你們以前都支持,現在反對。所以這是重點。我們當時候支持的時候是因為很多的縣市根本就發不出他們的薪水。公務人員薪水發不出來多嚴重啊。 |
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但是我們整合完了之後沒有這個問題而且我們當時候也是認為應該把中央跟地方的職責做好一個比較重要的補助型調配責任現在也做了 |
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所以我也必須說我反對的是現在國民黨跟民眾黨把台南當成孤兒丟到一邊去居然我們的人口數還有土地還有甚至密度都是在前面往前算結果我們今天的增加幅度是往後算 |
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我反對這樣的一個才化法所以我覺得要把事情講清楚說明白竹記長你剛剛所講的你們應該對所有台灣人民講清楚時代背景的不同而不是讓大家好像說要給大家更多為什麼大家不要不是不是是所有的局勢都改變了謝謝 |
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好,謝謝亭妃委員,接著請黃珊珊委員質詢 |
| IVOD_ID |
157498 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157498 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,19-1 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T10:44:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T10:55:25+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |