| IVOD_ID |
157490 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157490 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,19-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T10:24:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T10:35:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4b9db3dc7042177acaf4b92e648a83219efc61e85f95edfbe54b9bd157483afa1b3ed4d2a5df194e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:24:37 - 10:35:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算追加預算案。（詢答及處理）
【預算提案截止時間：11月26日（二）中午12時】） |
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今天要談這個一千億到底撥補要不要給現在人民第一個感覺就是說過去三年已經補了三千億嘛 對不對而且漲電價最近這三年漲了四次 |
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人民錢已經被掏了很多出來了更嚴重的要扛越薄越大扛這是人民第一個感覺第二個我今天要跟兩位探討一個非常重要的現在人民在問啊蔡英文任內漲電價漲了4次幅度漲幅高達35%這還不算帶輕的10月15號可是呢到今年7月份台電這個洞越補市越大洞 |
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我那麼多錢,漲了那麼多次臺電在7月虧損還有4348億那你怎麼知道人民相信說給你這1000億可以解決問題呢是不是這次給你1000億錢花更多呢而且你去對比馬英九8年他調了4次漲幅才23%欸最近這幾年會不會漲得太多了另外一個很重要的觀點 |
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當初在討論說要不要漲電價的時候那時候民眾得到的消息是說如果給你這一千億就是我們今天討論的一千億十月份就不會漲電價啊對不對好啦那你現在十月漲了喔你十月份漲了電價啦漲了12%的工業用電喔我今天要問你你今天來要這一千億你電價是不是要降回去 |
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你當初是說你要補我這1000億沒有的話我準備要漲電價結果你現在電價漲了嘛10月份10月15號漲了嘛對不對你今天又來是要這1000億是不是應該如果今天答應你要補這1000億要把10月份那個電價先降回來是不是這樣來次定還是出決定要說這事情來給聲明一個答案各位報告喔這個虧損不是今年 |
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市長 |
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我從二月份開始總執行問到這次我已經講了五六次了 |
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國際的天然氣跟煤炭都已經降下來了發電成本都是都已經掉下來了第二更重要的現在人民在生氣什麼事情臺電一個金雞模啊國營事業的模範生啊結果現在等一下等一下等一下他有兩個大的問題嘛第一包括賴清德跟卓永泰都講的嘛光電的閉案到底被掏空了多少錢看一下陳其立昨天投案了對不對說要進見 |
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連帶清德、中泰都是要趕快辦,對不對光是一個臺元力能你們自己要去做光電啊,到現在很多光電也沒有做出來啊說漁電共生、漁死的電也沒生啊多少錢?臺元被掏空的11億還面對可能140億的這個球場這個錢你給了1000億那邊又要出去100多億夠補嗎? |
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同樣在臺南的麗陽光電（起訴蘇公山不法收得為臺電要賺多少錢（91億（聯合再生（因為你們沒有去訂在張斌工業區設置太陽光電這個標注案（沒有設下限（回饋的這個下限（國庫損失了70億（ |
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聯合再生後來去違約去出售又套利了兩億多一來一去你現在跟我們要這一千億好更嚴重的第一個當然去把弊案查清楚就不要這一千億了第二個核能明明是最便宜的一多1.23、1.13 |
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你從合一已經停掉了合二停合三的一號機也停了明年五月又要停一年成本喔要增加一千億你用核電你就沒有這一千億的問題啊結果為了你們的意識形態全世界現在都返回核能結果現在民進黨在返核人家在返回核能在用核電的時候你們在不用核電好更重要的我今天跟你講一個很重要的觀念這一千億代表什麼如果今天給你這一千億 |
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是不是就排擠了?今天朱家庭在這?朱家庭管這個錢怎麼用?我們有1000億啊應該去多做社會福利啊這幾天大家這麼高興我們的棒球隊拿了世界冠軍回來啊都去做這個推動棒球啊體育活動啊我算給大家聽來,你看看這幾天啊,郭國文這幾天郭國文說要估重量那個獎金加碼到1億對不對?你這1000億我怎麼說的? |
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不要發生弊案,把弊案發生的錢追回來核電好好用,你這一千億就不用了,這一千億可以拿去做什麼?郭國文說他估重量獎金加碼到一千億被罵翻了你不要做到我剛講的這一千億做什麼事情?我們可以發一千次的獎金欸為什麼現在給台電這樣浪費?弊案也不好好去追然後核電能夠用的也不用,要我們人民再掏一千億去補你為什麼不拿來發獎金發一千次? |
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第2個大雞蛋的體育館造價多少錢161億這1000億可以蓋6座的大雞蛋的體育館另外政府跟人民不是一直說要有社會住宅嗎這1000億可以興建4萬戶的社會住宅如果不含土地含土地也可以蓋1萬戶的社會住宅現在政府一直在推動少子化 |
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我們要鼓勵要多生小孩作業指導宅這個服務我們要補助6萬塊對不對你去拿2023年的新生兒這個人數13萬5千個人為基準你全部補助這1000億省下來可以補助12年所以今天在談的不是冷冰冰的1000億第一個你可以從杜傑弊案太陽能光電號去查避免花這麼多錢那個錢很多都留到利誘偶的口袋裡面去啊人民就生氣啊 |
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第二,你可以用這個核電啊第三個,你這筆錢現在如果給你是不是排擠了我們的社會福利跟體育預算可以給獎金啊可以蓋大巨蛋的這個體育館啊可以興建社會住宅啊可以補助這個作業者到宅服務啊補助12年啊委員,我可以再講一下嗎?嗯,請說剛才你說你養的91億,我們一線就沒福 |
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．張啓楷 |
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現在檢查官一共起訴了超過50個案子 |
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我這幾天我還特別到臺南跟嘉義的那個太陽能光電的那個暗場去看啊,看那裡有什麼事啊?現在我們一些農田跟漁園被破壞了,下面有些還弄了什麼爐渣,還有一些廢棄物,然後現在更嚴重我剛才說的嘛,就浪費了我們的民脂民膏嘛,結果你現在說的,你虧欠不給他,你擋了一兩個案子嘛,可是還是有很多的案子要去把它查清楚,這個是,你現在應該是正本清衍,聽我講,你正本清衍人民現在要的什麼?你去解決問題嘛。 |
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中央政府總預算追加預算案。（詢答及處理（ |
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委員剛才你講的所有事情我們一一跟你說明你剛才講哪一個案子多少億哪一個案子多少億我就跟你說沒付啊你說天然氣價格燃煤價格有下降我真的很誠懇跟你說 |
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他現在的數字都在對啦,你現在說的就是說你們匱限不給他現在先停下來我跟你講就是說這個就是檢察官很清楚已經算出來說有可能發生這個弊案嘛對不對而且有部分你聽我說不是你現在不給他台電那個匱限他就停下來他有些錢已經搬出去嘛你看陳錦益已經搬了多少錢台元力能要搬了多少錢出去 |
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臺電跟經濟部跟政府必案不處理,能源政策不好好去處理明明以前核能可以用的,全世界都在用,你們不用,一年1000億,你現在又來拿這1000億 |
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主席陳奕臻委員 |