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| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:21:38 - 10:34:31 |
| 影片長度 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於經濟部及所屬單位預算部分。(詢答)） |
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陳亭妃委員質詢 |
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王美花部長 |
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什麼時候還我們有關於申報回饋一期的部分我們現在已經要求申報的董事長要跟在地的區長跟里長去做充分溝通不用溝通啊這已經是事實了要溝通什麼 |
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事實了是你要怎麼還這一筆錢給地方這才是最重要請問要溝通什麼在我們的資料裡面環兵裡面已經很清楚寫到他當時候的回饋金是售電收入這四個字大家看得很清楚啦我們大家都是讀過書應該都很清楚什麼叫售電收入 |
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受電收入不是扣除成本喔 不是喔 受電收入千分之十 這個很清楚那個當時候他們報的 沒有 |
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書長你看你就要聽他們講話了後面這個所謂的金額3000萬到5000萬你有沒有看到前提當時候他報給上面的是說他的售電收入只有那些錢可是沒有想到說原來他的售電收入是增加了好幾倍連好幾倍連好幾十倍 |
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所以前提是售電收入的10%所以每年約是3000萬到5000萬這個是當時候他給予 |
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中央所有的訊息是只有那些錢而已其實我沒有想到我們整個售店是網上飆升的你網上飆升之後你當然要增加上去啊所以他為什麼要寫一個約他為什麼要寫一個約約就是未定嘛未定嘛他當時候所提到他預估申辦一期每年大概就是這些收入 |
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所以才會有所謂約就沒有想到是往上飆升那往上飆升之後那是不是就應該要回饋給民眾這就是這樣嘛因為你每年的計價每年的售電你都會有不一樣的估價跟售電的狀況那你就應該要加上去要回饋的地方啊 |
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是不是對跟我們報告就是這個案子他是在環評的回饋環評的回饋裡面寫的很清楚嘛這個資料受電收入千分之十這一句話是固定的是確定的那後面是約你看喔他寫說每年回饋金金額約為什麼要一個約因為他當時候報給他們的就是大概是這樣的數字 |
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可是當我們飛上去之後是不是要增加?是不是要增加?是不是要增加?當然阿!他收入 售店收入的千分之十這是確定的 |
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他沒有任何模糊空間後面反而是因為他們當時候報給黃平小組委員會的時候他們報的金額就已經低報了所以他自己寫個約可是我們看的是前面你增加上去是不是應該就要實質你去看我們所有的回饋辦法你看我們所有廠商對政府的回饋辦法 |
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他看的是前面然後他多少的一個收入就要做多少的回饋拜託我們政府不要再替他講話了所有的人民眼睛都在看從去年講到現在置之不理他有溝通什麼嗎 沒有好署長他的惡質在哪裡再來 |
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請問這也是我一直質疑的第二期工程他沿用一起管線在環評的時候現在我們調出來爭霸根本完全沒有提供在過去一起管線他的安全性還有現在甚至是未來還要再沿用50年沒有環評裡面沒有結果我們委員會也是可以眼睛閉著就給他通過了我不知道他怎麼有那麼大的能耐 |
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我需要我要求人民一個安全的管線人民一個安全的生活空間結果居然是要你們經濟部能源署去要求申報趕快去做事後現在的管線檢測你們現在不是就在做事後的管線檢測嗎 |
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發言委員這個管測的檢測工作已經在今年完成那 完成什麼所以嘛本來在環評的時候就要完成的就要提供給環評的結果沒有我們把這件事情爆發之後爆發之後要求你們甚至在去年署長你還記不記得我還特別在審你們的預算的時候做了一個附帶決議 |
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請問那個附帶決議飛到哪裡去了附帶決議裡面有兩項工作一個就是要做確保這個安全所以我們有要求申辦要做安全的管測的檢測那檢測結果出來了那也為請公園院做第三方認證認證的結果要怎麼認證官官相問要怎麼認證誰能夠相信在這地底下的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
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安全性然後他本來一起你跟地方講的他是只有要用到一起50年而已你現在跟地方說沒有連二期都要繼續沿用請問在這之前他有辦過說明會嗎沒有欸 |
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沒有耶!沒有耶!在之前都沒辦過說明會!那是什麼說明會你知道嗎?那說明會我在現場你知道7月份的說明會是什麼嗎?是什麼嗎?沒有!沒有署長我當下! |
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| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
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開完會我馬上就打電話給你我說你他在辦什麼說明會說明會都沒有往後的檢測都講說沒有問題我們沒有問題 |
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人民是要聽這些嗎?你明明跟地方說一期只能用50年當時候跟地方是這麼講結果現在二期要沿用一期你沒有跟地方說明之前沒有之前都沒有欸是我們要求之後才7月份去開的那一場結果那一場是什麼會? |
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| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
483.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
請問那個公開有什麼用? |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
請問公開那個有什麼用?整個程序都違反了!你鬥著走! |
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| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
第三點 |
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我去年就跟你們說這個電業法裡面規定回饋金30%這個專案型電協金是由年度電協金的30%這個是由業者親自來做一個管控對不對 |
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電協金裡面70%給地方政府那個是定額的回饋那另外30%是要組一個委員會來不要再騙人了啦什麼叫委員會是業者去找的你們裡面 |
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完全開放根本裡面講到你說嘛第5條我寫得很清楚嘛你自己看嘛這裡面有寫什麼結果我如果沒有追喔去年我如果沒有追喔你知道這30%是要給誰就給業者可以專案使用喔他就變成小金庫喔這個小金庫變成他在打擊一級的小金庫 |
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根本不知道 這個專案型的裡面我們會要求他有一個審議委員會什麼叫審議委員會審議委員會裡面的成員就包括我們地方政府什麼叫審議委員會 這也是他們找的啊沒有 就包括地方政府是他們找的啊在去年我就叫你們要重新修改然後重新調整甚至要把所有的問題點出來到底這個專案型電協計要怎麼處理到現在到現在一年了 |
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去年審預算的時候到今年現在也要審預算了你把我們當成什麼我們的監督是什麼然後申辦就一直在打我們的臉審議委員會9位成員裡面市府兩位然後由大學來推薦5位教授 |
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誰能夠去把握說這個推薦到底是什麼處理我叫你們要把所有的制度弄出來也沒有從去年到現在都沒有都沒有然後申辦一直在做這個某人小金庫的處理我告訴你我告訴你他把地方當什麼他把地方當什麼 |
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處長我們從去年到現在我今天跟你講今天剛好是因為要審預算的專案的一個業務報告對不對針對預算的剛好去年到現在剛好一年剛好一年你們做了什麼我這些問題都是當時候就提了你又叫我怎麼通過你們的預算 |
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我怎麼通過你們的預算?我怎麼通過你們的預算?沒有啊!你的說明會根本就是敷衍的!你就是敷衍的!你完全就是敷衍的!你知道你們當時候的說明會我馬上就打給你的嘛! |
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一年前跟一年後所有的問題都一樣沒有改變 |
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陳委員辦公室說明 |
| IVOD_ID |
157489 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157489 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-17 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T10:21:38+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T10:34:31+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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