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| 委員名稱 |
鄭正鈐 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:55:21 - 10:06:45 |
| 影片長度 |
684 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於經濟部及所屬單位預算部分。(詢答)） |
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委員質詢謝謝主席 請一下郭部長請郭部長 |
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委員長部長好我延續一下剛剛張綺雅委員的一個問題就是說川普上來之後其實已經很清楚中國要加稅10%那墨西哥跟加拿大這邊也要加增25%那其實由於東南亞國家尤其像越南可能也會在下一波的一個增加關稅的一個名單當中那現在這麼多的台商在大陸跟越南 |
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加上越南跟大陸的台商跟台灣都有很大的一個供應鏈的一個關係那對於這樣的一個增加關稅的部分對於台灣的企業會不會產生怎麼樣的影響?經濟部這邊有什麼樣的評估? |
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報告委員我想這一部分這是川普上來以後他會影響的除了這個進口的關稅之外我們也在看這個匯率的問題會產生什麼樣的變化那麼這個利息的部分會產生什麼樣的變化這裡面大概對經濟的影響變化是蠻大的 |
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所以我剛才有跟這個張委員報告也就是說經濟部的立場就是說保護我們國家的這些廠商那他現在在中國的或者是他現在在越南的我們都要協助他他未來的客人是不是 |
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是美國的客戶或其他地方的客戶會有影響的大概就是美國這個市場所以說如果是針對美國因為川普上來之後產生了很大的一個影響那其實對很多台商來講其實他本來其實就是在大陸或在越南生產很多的市場也是放在美國那我們經濟部這邊有沒有什麼更具體的一個做法可以去協助因為如果不是往美國出口當然這個問題就不大 |
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我們這邊有沒有更多具體的一個作為要怎麼往下做?我們會先了解他的意願。第二個,協助他離開中國。那也協助他們離開越南嗎?很多越南投資都還沒有回本。現在越南,對,所以我們會先從他這個資本支出比較大的這個企業裡面,我們先了解他的意願。資本支出比較少的,我們當然就協助他轉移陣地。 |
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在這部分我想川普上來之後對整個國際貿易的部分一定會產生很大的影響我覺得經濟部這邊一定要有更詳細的一個能力往下去關注那在這部分的時候我也想特別問一個部分就是有關於台積電台積電在亞利桑那這邊的時候目前總共要設置幾個廠 |
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他剛開始是說兩個廠 那麼現在大概已經公告的好像是三個廠三個廠 它的製程有多先進 可不可以說明一下第一個廠 什麼時候要生產 然後什麼時候要開始量產 然後是幾奈米的一個技術 |
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208.764 |
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現在第一個廠 現在剛剛這個test-on-in已經完了那明年初就會正式量產明年初開始量產但是要run到那個full capacity我想這個根據過去的這個經驗大概要一兩年 |
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210.106 |
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229.929 |
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是 理解那一年多以後他的那個fab 2才會開始去去ground breaking是因為之前我們原本在講說臺電到外面去的時候都是以那個成熟製程先進製程基本上不出去可是現在我們看到在美國這個部分的時候第一座的時候他預計要用4奈米的製程已經是非常先進的製程了 |
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其實比韓國很多都還要先進那麼預計2028年的時候第二做要用3奈米那最近有一個新的一個狀態商務部這邊出來說2029年的時候第三做的時候要用先進的未來技術 |
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246.945 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
249.187 |
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臺積電是一個獨立的公司嗎?它是一個民間的公司 |
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275.589 |
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299.609 |
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他一定要能夠賺錢,他才會往那邊走所以就是說,就希望他要賺錢所以以商言商的時候,台積電原本也不想到美國去就像三星一樣,他不斷地在拖可是我們政府這邊的,就讓台積電直接過去了那個部長你知道嗎?按照我們國安法第3條我們有一個國家核心關鍵技術如果要輸出的時候,需要主管 |
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302.337 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
以目前的法令的規定是這個樣子? |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
327.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
354.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
延續上一個問題就是台灣目前基本上似乎沒有在整個美國要增加關稅的一個名單當中可是我們對台積電這部分是不是可以對於整個台灣的一個安全或者各方面一個綜合的一個談判的一個籌碼經濟部在這邊是不是應該扮演更積極的角色因為我們所有的關鍵核心關鍵技術輸出是需要你這邊同意的 |
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368.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
您剛才所垂詢的這個問題我想現在就像您剛才所說的進入到國安的這個部分所以不是只有經濟部同意他就能夠出去 |
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387.461 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
390.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
臺積電護國神山這個部分如何去讓臺灣有更多的國際談判籌碼經濟部事關重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
396.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
419.406 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
我們確實是如委員所垂詢的這一部分我們都有強化在這個台積電的部分那到目前為止因為這個之前他有做的這個亞利桑那這個廠這個室內米美國這一部分其實這樣這個就台積電的客戶他希望在你這個東西在美國可以取得 |
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420.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
444.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
理解喔部長可是我想說在商言商之前張宗謀前董事長他也表示說其實在美國是不一定是一個很好的一個投資的一個狀態齁那三星期一有政府的支持他們目前至少不斷在拖延技術性的一個拖延可是台灣這邊是完全的配合那麼我們希望經濟部這邊能夠變成台積電背後的一個談判的一個靠山好不好因為否則我覺得2029年 |
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445.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
470.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
如果說我們的A16的技術也直接過去的時候那我擔心台灣這邊所謂的一個最先進的一個技術我們未必能夠真的在手上那如果再加上地緣政治的影響之後的時候搞不好之後全世界最先進的製程就在美國而不一定在台灣好不好 這部分我們希望經濟部這邊能夠多多變成台積電後面的一個靠山 是 |
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471.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
473.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
昨天25日產發署提到產業淨零成功轉型成功發表,我們看到一個數字,從民國95年到112年當中, |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
493.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
493.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
報告委員剛開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
520.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
520.791 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
懲罰所 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
542.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
543.472 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
報告委員 我們有兩項措施第一個是我們會修產創條例十之一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
578.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
議員：鄭 |
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578.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
579.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
張明工業區金鼎焚化爐蓋不蓋? |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
601.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
625.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
金鼎的部分這個可能需要縣政府的同意因為現在的情況就是說我知道經濟部現在一下推給環境部一下推給地方政府那到底最後蓋不蓋因為我在主管機關畢竟還在經濟部這個地方那如果說沒有蓋之後那經濟部這邊會不會碰到了一個違約金額要賠償的問題要賠多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
629.202 |
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631.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
我請這個原管局的OK |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
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632.555 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
公開招標 |
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請好好了解一下這個相關案子的時候,再給本席一個詳細的說明。到底蓋不蓋,經濟部這邊要有一個很清楚的看法。 |
| IVOD_ID |
157471 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157471 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-17 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T09:55:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T10:06:45+08:00 |
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